something like half of all 1v1's end in a rush before 10 minute mark, gotta guard against the early rush if you see something amiss in the other player's base
It was 9:04 AM, I had already got the kids off to school and grabbed the morning Dunkin's. I checked ArtosisCasts for some quality casting content of our beloved Broodwar. There was no video in sight. Panic insues. I watch a youtube video to pass time of some sub par content. I come back to Arty's channel. THE UPLOAD IS COMPLETE! The sound? No where to be found. :( ❤ SOUND IS BACK, HAPPINESS. ❤
He couldve pulled all his probe by mineral drilling into the nat to disrupt Marine pathing and attack them too. Therer are alot of different situations that couldve hapenned
Quick question and I'm sure I sound like an idiot, but generally just curious so please go easy on me. On the first game if the carriers are scouted earlier is there any thoughts on ghost-lockdown? Or is that just too costly and slow and "dumb". Are goliaths just overall faster to upgrade, faster to produce, better in every scenario? Great channel I watch all your videos. Please keep posting new videos.
Ghost lockdown has been tried throughout the years. In the early days of Brood War it had some success, but generally its just too hard to pull off. Ghosts are slow to build, expensive, die incredibly fast, and are really apm intensive. And if the protoss sees is coming then your ghosts will just get popped by a single psy storm before the 3rd lockdown even gets cast
You were late posting the video today. I need my SC fix. I was starting to get withdrawal symptoms. My hands were shaking, I was sweating, and it felt like Zerg larvae were crawling under my skin. 😰 But it's all good now. Better late than never.
Are Valkyries remotely viable to counter carrier's mass interceptor? I have never seen it but though about it just now. While mech absorbs the damage the valks could lower the interceptor count.
Your very correct in thinking that.However some idiot decided it was a good idea to make valkyrie not do splash damage on interceptors.Which makes carrier unbalanced unit in that matchup as terran has nothing against it.They need to make corsair not do splash on mutalisk too if they are going to do such bullshit.
It was a Shapiro only night. "Oh, god, B-Ben!" Abigail clenched her teeth as her hips bucked forward again. Tonight he was going to destroy his younger sister, and not with facts and logic...
How did Motive not suspect something fishy was going on?? Weird that such a high level toss did not immediately react to this after scouting that late rax and few scvs
There are Terran players I really like but when it's PvT I always root for Protoss because there really is nothing like the salty Terran tears that flow freely in the comment section after a Protoss win.
Honestly the only way to catch carriers early when you are going mech is if you do a vulture drop. You aren't gonna get an academy early with mech build at this level..he was doing good to match greed for greed, but the carrier tech is always in the protoss back pocket and that was a perfect game to pull that stunt.
they could but its super hard to have goliath hit carriers in the first place.They either fight in area where goliath cant walk to or use ground army to protect carrier in open map where goliath can walk.
I love how balanced carriers are because when I watch pro level games they only win 80% of the time, and I know that's fair cause Terran can mass ghost or BC and win 80% of the time and zerg also can mass ultralisk and win 80% of the time. it is important to have skill units like carriers where you can mass and win, basically always. when I play vs AI I mass carriers and they just quit to make sure I keep the win ratio at 80%
Well yeah, if you see it coming then ghosts are an amazingly cheap caster for how devastating they can be vs big expensive mechanical units. And those lockdowns feel like they last forever.
Original SC needed to give massive buffs to ghosts. BCs are fine but ghosts? They needed to be 150mineral/150gas and have protoss style shields or something like 45hp/45shields...or permanent stealth like the dark templars with way higher damage that's not concussive. SC2 fixed ghosts btw. But in SC1 I always thought of ghosts as the unit that was supposed to assassinate the other casters like defiler/high templar but that's not how it played at all. Basically good for lockdown and nukes only. Far better to use vultures to kill high templars and use science vessels to kill defilers.
@@Leonhart_93 tell that to players who play against bonyth or stork.They know those dudes go carrier 99% of the time and they cant do much about it even tho they know what the enemy will do.carrier has 12 range while attacking and moving away.Ghosts dont move fast enouth.They will die before they can lockdown as long as protoss does good micro and is attacking while running away.
@@alonzojohnson6597 You use the ghosts by flanking them in combination with the goliaths. Lockdown is amazingly powerful, considering that SC2 has a much weaker and shorter version of it called Interference Matrix and it still routinely wins games.
Motive’s carrier micro is awful. If Motive would micro carriers as good as Zergs do with mutas - they would be next to invincible and extremely deadly. Proper carrier micro almost doubles damage output in skirmishes and triples it in base assaults.
Oh, so cross spawn Nexus first is unbeatable (certainly seems that way from the last 10 times I've seen it). Why aren't the Terran players ceaselessly crying like Zerg players? Shouldn't there be some map edits like there are every time there's a Terran advantage (or, you know, just when they win too much)? Seems only fair.
Soso spends all that money making factories, instead of just getting the academy earlier.. the guy is flying blind all game, if he had just gotten one scan he would’ve pivoted most of those factories into starports, gone wraiths and valks with tank support and wrecked those carriers.. common man not smart.. the guy didn’t get a scan until 11 minutes in and only found out about the carriers from his vultures smh… but love that marine bunker cheese to wreck him in the 2nd game, well done!
![naughty[kS] vs Terran310 on Polyploid. naughty supposedly beat Flash recently...](/img/1.gif)
"may the best player win..... or the protoss player" LMAOOO
What a treat, thanks artosis. To those who read comments first, just watch the video.
One of three channels I have notifications on for. Thanks Arty.
@ 0:52 may the best player win.. or the Protoss. Artosis cracks me up
Ok that’s a relief. Literally skipped through the whole Carriers drama (same shit everytime) to enjoy bunker rush!!!
Honestly the first game cracked me up though, about as bad a situation as you can get as terran.
@@Ziegfried82 i conclude majority is Terran’s fan here 😂
Terran supremacists!
Such delicious cheese in the second game
Just desserts for a nexus first crossmap
Shame on you for the spoiler
don't read the comments before watching, people are obviously going to talk about the video they just watched, what else would they talk about
@@HamidKarzai it was upvoted and the only comment shown in preview of the video
@@VersusAllOdds that makes sense then, bad feature though
Happy to see the mudman shining in CNSL.
Ggs! Thanks for the cast Artosis!
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I'm here.
Excellent. Your punctualidy is impeccable.
something like half of all 1v1's end in a rush before 10 minute mark, gotta guard against the early rush if you see something amiss in the other player's base
in this case, protoss should have seen the barracks progress inside terran base was way too late, there has to be something else going on
Haha man that marine rush had me cracked up that was awesome.
HYPED FOR GAME 5 !!!
It was 9:04 AM, I had already got the kids off to school and grabbed the morning Dunkin's. I checked ArtosisCasts for some quality casting content of our beloved Broodwar. There was no video in sight. Panic insues. I watch a youtube video to pass time of some sub par content. I come back to Arty's channel. THE UPLOAD IS COMPLETE! The sound? No where to be found. :( ❤
SOUND IS BACK, HAPPINESS. ❤
What an emotional rollercoaster
i think the entire game 2 came down to the placement of that pylon. If that wasn't in such easy range of the marines, I think he holds it.
Clearly, this was an Artosis pylon
He couldve pulled all his probe by mineral drilling into the nat to disrupt Marine pathing and attack them too.
Therer are alot of different situations that couldve hapenned
Quick question and I'm sure I sound like an idiot, but generally just curious so please go easy on me. On the first game if the carriers are scouted earlier is there any thoughts on ghost-lockdown? Or is that just too costly and slow and "dumb". Are goliaths just overall faster to upgrade, faster to produce, better in every scenario? Great channel I watch all your videos. Please keep posting new videos.
I'd like to know as well because it seems like whenever 5+ carriers enter the game its over. Not to mention theyre kind of boring to watch.
Ghost lockdown has been tried throughout the years. In the early days of Brood War it had some success, but generally its just too hard to pull off. Ghosts are slow to build, expensive, die incredibly fast, and are really apm intensive. And if the protoss sees is coming then your ghosts will just get popped by a single psy storm before the 3rd lockdown even gets cast
You were late posting the video today. I need my SC fix. I was starting to get withdrawal symptoms. My hands were shaking, I was sweating, and it felt like Zerg larvae were crawling under my skin. 😰
But it's all good now. Better late than never.
love the offensive bunker; very hard to do well, but so satisfying
i appreciate the fact u dont cover the screen with a chat window or even the additional unit info panel at the bottom when its not necessary
Are Valkyries remotely viable to counter carrier's mass interceptor? I have never seen it but though about it just now. While mech absorbs the damage the valks could lower the interceptor count.
I'm not sure but the Valkyries don't do splash damage on interceptors...that's what I've heard
Your very correct in thinking that.However some idiot decided it was a good idea to make valkyrie not do splash damage on interceptors.Which makes carrier unbalanced unit in that matchup as terran has nothing against it.They need to make corsair not do splash on mutalisk too if they are going to do such bullshit.
When I saw 5 minutes left at the end of the 1st match I thought for sure Soso got eliminated.
It was a Shapiro only night. "Oh, god, B-Ben!" Abigail clenched her teeth as her hips bucked forward again.
Tonight he was going to destroy his younger sister, and not with facts and logic...
I like how this guy Soso playing.
Where game 5 😢
Keep it up Artois!
I’m curious how long it took for them to start game 4. I feel like that was a rage start from Soso. I know I would’ve been pissed
Being such a prominen command base, a refuelling station has been consdrucded in the south eas quadrant to assist their regular flight missions
Dont valks pop intercepters?
No some idiot had a great idea to make them not do splash on interceptors.Carrier is unbalanced against terran.
soso had to get some revenge
How did Motive not suspect something fishy was going on?? Weird that such a high level toss did not immediately react to this after scouting that late rax and few scvs
he became cocky, and that will be his downfall game 5 to
Because he is protoss
That's what you get for going carriers!
Soso said its now or never, and boy was that more enjoyable than the carrier onslaught to see.
Motive is basically the opposite of YSC!
Its actually Artosis, huh? damn
Game 2. That's how Terran is supposed to be played. Win before 5 goons.
0:50 LMAO
EMP and DM + Goliath against this stuff should be a thing.
got to be a painful 2nd game
There are Terran players I really like but when it's PvT I always root for Protoss because there really is nothing like the salty Terran tears that flow freely in the comment section after a Protoss win.
It's the opposite for me. TvP is such a difficult matchup that I love seeing a terran win when they're always the underdog.
Standard deployment timing 6-8 hours.
Arty's alot quieter then usual today
Game2 😮
Why is broodwar so much more interesting to watch than sc2?
Sir it would seem that the criminal is being harboured by the Protoss.
Why would de Prodoss harbour this criminal?
On game 3, when soso couldn't scout Motive's main, shouldn't he have rushed his academy and comsat to spot the carrier build right away?
I think he realized he was behind so best option was an expansion to catch up in economy.
Honestly the only way to catch carriers early when you are going mech is if you do a vulture drop. You aren't gonna get an academy early with mech build at this level..he was doing good to match greed for greed, but the carrier tech is always in the protoss back pocket and that was a perfect game to pull that stunt.
Stargate Carriers!
I don't know why terrans don't try to use emp to take down carrier shields
they could but its super hard to have goliath hit carriers in the first place.They either fight in area where goliath cant walk to or use ground army to protect carrier in open map where goliath can walk.
PAYBACK!!! 😂
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May the best player win…. Or protoss. Im dead hahaha
Carriers OP hehe
Let the best player win... or the protoss player (:
i heard that to :D
For the algo
I love how balanced carriers are because when I watch pro level games they only win 80% of the time, and I know that's fair cause Terran can mass ghost or BC and win 80% of the time and zerg also can mass ultralisk and win 80% of the time. it is important to have skill units like carriers where you can mass and win, basically always. when I play vs AI I mass carriers and they just quit to make sure I keep the win ratio at 80%
Well yeah, if you see it coming then ghosts are an amazingly cheap caster for how devastating they can be vs big expensive mechanical units. And those lockdowns feel like they last forever.
Original SC needed to give massive buffs to ghosts. BCs are fine but ghosts? They needed to be 150mineral/150gas and have protoss style shields or something like 45hp/45shields...or permanent stealth like the dark templars with way higher damage that's not concussive. SC2 fixed ghosts btw. But in SC1 I always thought of ghosts as the unit that was supposed to assassinate the other casters like defiler/high templar but that's not how it played at all. Basically good for lockdown and nukes only. Far better to use vultures to kill high templars and use science vessels to kill defilers.
@@Leonhart_93 tell that to players who play against bonyth or stork.They know those dudes go carrier 99% of the time and they cant do much about it even tho they know what the enemy will do.carrier has 12 range while attacking and moving away.Ghosts dont move fast enouth.They will die before they can lockdown as long as protoss does good micro and is attacking while running away.
@@alonzojohnson6597 You use the ghosts by flanking them in combination with the goliaths. Lockdown is amazingly powerful, considering that SC2 has a much weaker and shorter version of it called Interference Matrix and it still routinely wins games.
Motive’s carrier micro is awful. If Motive would micro carriers as good as Zergs do with mutas - they would be next to invincible and extremely deadly.
Proper carrier micro almost doubles damage output in skirmishes and triples it in base assaults.
Oh, so cross spawn Nexus first is unbeatable (certainly seems that way from the last 10 times I've seen it). Why aren't the Terran players ceaselessly crying like Zerg players? Shouldn't there be some map edits like there are every time there's a Terran advantage (or, you know, just when they win too much)? Seems only fair.
So much skill needed to just make a certain unit and you auto win.
No sound
Game 1 and 2 took equal effort from their respective winners. Toss L
Soso spends all that money making factories, instead of just getting the academy earlier.. the guy is flying blind all game, if he had just gotten one scan he would’ve pivoted most of those factories into starports, gone wraiths and valks with tank support and wrecked those carriers.. common man not smart.. the guy didn’t get a scan until 11 minutes in and only found out about the carriers from his vultures smh… but love that marine bunker cheese to wreck him in the 2nd game, well done!
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Motive deserved what happened to him lol
Starcraft greed edition lol.
Bring back ban/unban
Nice little cheesy move to stay in the game