How good is MAX TRACTION / GRIP in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe?
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- Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024
- how important is the traction stat? this determines how much you slip on slippery road like mud, ice, snow, water, and dirt.
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combo used:
bowser jr / koopa clown / monster tires / paper glider
all maximum invincibility characters/parts:
bowser jr / koopa troopa / lakitu / baby peach / baby daisy / baby rosalina / lemmy
tanooki kart / koopa clown / master cycle zero
monster tires / hot monster tires / ancient tires
cloud glider / parachute / paper glider / flower glider / super glider / waddle wing / hylian kite
Shortcat these are my favourite videos could you please do the rest of the maximum and minimum stat combos as you haven’t done lowest mini turbo or lowest/highest weight
I will get to them all eventually! Thank you :)
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Hey I appreciated playing with you! Was fun to match your combo :)
PS boo lake was indeed my fault. Did not feel confident going low route
could it be the real liam???
Yo it's the real deal
Very well played there @Liam,
Just out of curiosity, did you know what he was playing for and also to go for 1-2?😂
@@peterrainer3723yeah I figured it was traction. A couple races before I was on the same combo but with Ancient Tires. And top 2 is the only way to end!
What a legend
traction, a stat that has a minimal use on not a lot of tracks: not hidden stat
mini turbo, a stat that is used constantly, used by the most important mechanic in the game (drifting), used everywhere all the time, the most important stat in the game: hidden stat
While it's true that having high traction in 7 was also situational, it nonetheless meant more in that game than in this one.
Its primary use in this game is to mitigate slipping at 200cc on tracks that have a bunch of dirt/snow/other slippery surfaces while still using builds with relatively high handling.
I just love how Shortcat is always able to find a perfect rivalry or companionship with a random online person.
You mean J Perm
Those given to me by fate are the most important
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that line is so badass@@Shortcat321
@@Shortcat321Are you just taking a break from cubing or did you stop cubing?
Honestly, I think the Traction stat would be more useful if it affected your off-road speed. It still wouldn't be an amazing stat if that was the case, but it would at least be usable on most tracks instead of nearly useless.
Before this video, I was certain that it did.
I think Mario kart 7 had an off road stat.
@@drrobocar6459 it did, and Red Monster was the best tire for it.
@@heinrichdubloon3139 Yeah, you could drift with them in the off-road
In wii they had offroad though!
For anyone confused, it's called grip in the UK version
Sup, can loc come in your crib?
thanks mate
oi lad my combo rather grippy today innit
Ye bruv it's truly spiffin' mate innit
Wagwan piff ting whats ya bbm pin?
Slippery roads also effect your Top Speed, which is determined by Traction. 0.75 Traction would result in a *-2%* or *-3%* Top Speed reduction (depending on the category of slippery road). 5.75 Traction would result in a *-0%* or *-1%* Top Speed reduction.
Every point (0.25) of Traction reduces the slowdown by *0.1%*
While you can adapt to the slipping part of Traction, you have no control over the slowdown effect. Blooper Ink is also effected by Traction, so it might do something (even though it’s still little) even on courses without slippery road.
You'll have to be a giga nerd to notice a 3% speed decrease 🤓
@@wile123456 clearly you've never played Dead By Daylight
@@TheRealMycanthrope I'm sorry for your loss...
Oh that's actually huge, i didn't know about the speed thing. For anyone wondering, 6-7% is the difference between the slowest combo (1 speed) and fastest combo (20 speed), and also the difference between 0 coins and 10 coins.
In other words, about 2 or 3 points of traction is the same as 1 point of speed (on slippery road), which is huge!
@@wile123456 3% speed increase and decrease is in fact very noticeable
The friendship formed between Liam and Vertically Challenged Domestic Feline over the course of the video, and them getting top 2 with a suboptimal combo is truly beautiful.
traximum maction
i went back to the beginning of the video to see if he said it like that
Ye
@@renoxd7690same
Maxion tractimum (this lowkey sounds like bad ass fantasy name)
Wait just a minute
Shortcat and Liam are the True Traction Team! Yeah, I've never worried too much about the traction stat in this game. It does seem very situational in your average online race. I mean, I could see it coming in handy for like Time Trials, though.
18:49 Omega props on Liam, who went wide on the last turns so you could get to top 3. Didn't work as expected, but Liam is now your bro 4(th) life!
Out of all your "max x stat" videos, I think this one felt the most hopeless to begin with, like it didn't matter AT ALL. It was nice to see the narrative of you and Liam making the push for top two at the end. I literally clapped when you pulled it off
It's because the traction stat doesn't have any visual difference for us viewers, it just looks like he's playing a ugly combo. But for him who's actually playing the game, he can feel the diference
@@victoryuji7522 It's also because it mostly matters to any appreciable degree at 200cc, where base speeds are much higher, and even then, you still need to limit your focus, or you'll sacrifice other, far more useful stats.
Finally bowser junior getting the recognition he deserves
Agreed
Indeed
Yes
He actually has the same Mini turbo as Yoshi’s class
WE LOVE BOWSER JUNIOR❤
The companionship between shortcat and liam has to be the most awesome thing ever. there should be more videos with liam
I honestly love your natural cadence and commentary, if you live streamed I would watch every one
Natural cadence is a great way to put it
I was bored today and decided to recreate the Shortcat Mii. When playing, I forgot to change back to my Mii and appeared as Shortcat in the lobby. I went on a massive roll, winning a bunch of races, and surpassed 8000 VR, so thanks for the good luck, Shortcat Mii:)
Watching your videos has gotten me back into Mario Kart again and I really enjoy it.
Thanks for the great content and also for the educational videos, Shortcat! :)
it’s crazy to see how much influence short cat has. i’ve been here since like 4 or 5 digit subs and it’s so cool to see him randomly racing with a fan almost every video
Literally never played Mario Kart, but these videos are getting me really interested.
Me too
You should definitely play Mario kart. It takes some practice, but if you get good, you can usually beat your friends in parties
@@teabown02if your even semi good online you’ll absolutely destroy friends at parties. It’s honestly not even fun for me because it’s too easy to win
Bowser does not have to worry about paternety test, peach has good traction
I guess Traction Alleles are Recessive
"Does Bowser need to do a paternity test? Should he be worried?" I LAUGHED SO HARD😭
Shortcat is my new favorite RUclipsr. Over Christmas, I played tons of Mario kart with my siblings and wanted to get better. I found shortcat and find him informative and super entertaining. thanks shortcat!
Because shortcat is life, shortcat is god, shortcat is the answer
His videos are the reason I'm back on the track
@@PaulMenden5659I’m actually so much better now
Shortcat getting 3rd on Waluigi stadium continues to prove that he has plot armor on the track
That bowser at around 6:15 using the worst traction is defiantly a paid actor
My dad ahhhhh😫
why are they so adamant about being a paid actor
Being a Bowser Jr. enjoyer ever since Smash 4, this video with its incredible tale of friendship and brotherhood between you and Liam made my day, what a great ending too
I like how informative this is.
Not really into competitive MK (just too hectic for my liking), so I don't know much background, so it's quite nice to get these informations in an entertaining way.
nintendo really thinks this is a more important stat than mini-turbo
It hurts my eyes when I see max traction but the bar isn't full
Thanks for that Nintendo
i think if next mario kart does the whole pick your stats thing again, every stat should have a use not only for something gimmicky like "better drift turning on slippery road" but also something that applies on most tracks like "lower deceleration on offroad" or "better drift turning in general". while i'm at it, would be cool if they separated mini turbo speed, length, and charge time across like.. speed stat, miniturbo stat, and idk traction stat i guess.
"Mom can we have offroad stat?"
"We have offroad stat at home."
The offroad stat at home:
Shortcat: when I say something you can usually trust me
Shortcat almost every episode: nice I’m getting a speed bonus since I’m playing Mario on Mario’s circuit
I discovered your channel a few days ago because I needed some help getting less terrible at Mario Kart, and even though I'm still terrible I am loving these rivalries and whole storylines that just come out of nowhere! This one was particularly wholesome, Liam was amazing!
Really nice edit using the replay to see whats going on with Liam on Rosalinas Ice World :)
And nice Top 2 finish 😁
I love how you always get these super awesome people in your lobbies lol
4:27 It would seem traction is a recessive gene in bowser’s family
Biology reference
Thanks so much shortcat
I don’t know if this is from when I asked you but there’s enough max traction combos I think you could have also choose but you choose the one I suggested. Thanks either way. The ending was satisfactory.
I learn so much about this game through watching these themed videos, thank you shortcat:)
This was a great Idea
I mean lets get rid of the most useless stat. brilliant
That green shell was no where near sniping that star person
Traction also slightly affects how fast you go on these "slippery roads". Where on sand/ice, 1 traction stat gives you 97-98% speed, 20(max) traction gives you 99-100% speed. Not much difference but it is still cool. Also if you didnt want the bounce, Ancient Tires have the same traction stat
the liam cam was an absolutely hilarious addition, what a great way to up the stakes!
I'd say traction helps more the faster you're going. So like, Neo Bowser City at 200cc? Max traction is an absolute blessing on that track at that speed. But then there's the fact that in some tracks the traction stat doesn't make a difference, which I did not know before watching this video, so a good amount of handling stat sounds like it would be better on those tracks. I'm wondering how traction may affect zero-gravity portions though, if it does.
Two guys that dont know eachother helping them out is something that i love when it happens on the internet
I would not be shocked if Shortcat found a way to get himself into MarioKart X as a custom character at this point...
Guess we will need to wait
One minute you're just playing Mario Kart, and the next you're going through the most poetic story ever written. Big ups to Liam ‼️💯🥶
The Liam Cam is an amazing addition! Adds a lot to the video🙏
this guy has singularly gotten me back into mario kart, dont know how, he's just got that power
I think what happened on Waluigi Stadium with the banana randomly appearing is someone in a boo got in front of you and left it there. If you look later in the race, one of the Black Yoshi's reappeared on the map as if he/she used a boo.
Dude, you are great. Absolutely love watching your videos. You seem like you genuinely enjoy playing which makes the viewing of the videos so much more enjoyable.
The teamwork racing with Liam was so wholesome :3
The fact that he does this kind challange and the combo actually has balanced stats
I once, no shot, got a star in second in a full race. The front runner had a pretty substantial lead, but right before said star, I had 3 red shells. Thanks to some shortcuts I managed to use the star to steal the lead and win
I love these videos on the silly combos where there's always that one guy who swaps to the combo and forms an alliance, versus the tryhard videos where it's just 30 minutes of "Yoshis don't play nice"
We need a full video with the Shortcat Mii once time for the OG subscribers 😸
I remember this channel having just around 5k subs when your videos kept being suggested to me lol
I don’t think you guys understand how happy I get when shortcat posts 😂❤
The callback to the max invincibility episode was hilarious
Glad to see my boy Bowser jr. being repped in one of these videos
6:24 there was someone in a boo as you can see at the next item set, so they set it down and there was no reaction time
CUTE COMBO ALERT diddy kong mr scooty hotmonster cloud glider try it out!
Hi shortcat!! Love your content!! Also, will you be doing a separate video about minimum traction??
I love how he's so friendly that he thought they were in comms together haha ❤️
Video idea: use combos in loading screens
How do you get different loading screens
@AidenEllersick ok
RomanAround did this.
I literally felt like cheering when you got top 2! 🥳😂 W duo!! 💪 Also the Liam cam was awesome!
Shortcat, I’d like to see you rank your top 10 tracks
pretty new to the channel and have been binge watching these videos and this is the first upload since i subbed and it might be my favourite ‼️ the liam friendship was amazing
Shortcat, you should make a video explaining every item in detail. Like what places you can get them in, percentage chances, other conditions for getting certain items. I think that would be really interesting to watch.
Oh, I'd love that. I did some googling on that, but couldn't find any good resources.
Traction is very helpful for shortcuts where it's about getting through rough road
Day 2 of asking Shortcat to try and win with smart steering
Da king is back baby he neva miss
the "MY DAD!" part cracked me up tbh
love your content btw, I told u about how JPG could beat u in a race ;)
best day of my life when u responded AND UR WINNING STREAK ENDED
Finally maximum and minimum traction! Now you played the combos all 5 worst/best stats!
Just came back from a vacation, checked my phone and saw a shortcat upload. LET'S GO! 🤩
This is actually one of my favorite kart combos lol I can't explain it, it just feels good to control and I love the look of it. Second favorite is Shy Guy/Streetle/Sponge Wheels
Liam is a real one ✨️
I recently began playing MK8 online and today I audibly said “shock dodge, nice”. I received immediate judgement from my roommate 😂
Shortcat really stood his ground with this one
I think it's hilarious that this video showcased invincibility more than the invincibility video did. 😂
Liam is a real homie! I got hyped when there was a top 2 at the end
Shortcat I appreciate all the effort you put into your videos and you have taught me so much about Mariokart, Thank You! Best RUclipsr ever!
Pretty positive that it also affects your traction on normal terrain as well when in a drift, though to a far lesser extent. There is a Mario Kart 8 mod that adds Mario Kart Wii-esc inside drift, and it had to give the inside drift bikes all max traction to feel like MKW inside drift. This might mean it was a MK8 thing removed in Deluxe tho.
Looking forward to pro guide!
Shortcat: finds someone with a similar name - instant target
Also shorcat: finds someone with the same combo that isn't the meta: friend
maybe Bowsers just lose their traction ability as they get older
Becoming a ditto and hopping next to your doppelgänger is the equivalent to crouch spamming in Minecraft :)
Liam is a certified G
I feel like if they wanted to buff the traction stat, they could make it useful for traveling faster on grass or other off track obstacles
I have been waiting for the Traction episode. Let's go!
Are you Johnathan Permutation? :)
The Liam cam was an amazing addition.
7:56 Look at the piranha plants just vibing with the music
At 17:13, the banana he threw forward bounced and hit the red shell he threw lol
it must be fun to get into a room with shortcat and try to figure out what the reasoning behind his absolutely unhinged combo is
Love watching ur videos, even though I've never played a nintendo game in my life, but I have an idea on how they could buff Traction. I know that they've already finished balancing the game, but just a thought. And i know this is 5 months later for ur max traction vid but who cares.
Along with it's abilities rn, they should make it so that on a slippery road like dirt, (not water, and i'll get to why in a second) ppl w/ more traction can actually go faster, bc they have better grip, which will make less useless and balance it.
For being underwater it should be its own hidden stat, with it's own variable with each combo.
To make it even more balanced, they should make a new power up, (or add to the ink squid that blinds u) so that when somebody uses and ink squid, the whole track becomes slippery terrain for the player (only for player that is affected) during the duration of ink squid. They could also just make a whole new power up for that too. This will make ppl want value traction into their combos more, because of the risk of such a power up.
This power up will be obtainable from 12th - 6th, (place) with a higher chance of getting it from 8th-6th. The farther u are from the next player in front of u, the higher the chance of getting said item. There are chances to get in all spots, but it will be lower chances in 3rd-1st, and neutral in 5th and 4th place.
AS u said, slipper turns can be easily managed, once u get now the track, but not many tracks even have slippery terrain, so on a track with no slippery terrain, this power up would be useful, if u r using a traction-favorable combo. This power up would amazing for bagging, and also a massive variable in how ppl play the track, as now they will want to always be on the look out for a power up like this, making them want favor traction a lot. its a good controller for games that get unbalanced bc of yoshi teddy buggy dominating, (although now i realize that it has decent traction).
U also said that slippery roads or turns can be avoided completely w/ a mushroom
so they could nerf it. I have a few ideas:
1. When on slippery road, shrooms will make people take turn wider the less traction they have, bc they slip, making it unviable
2. Less chances for getting a shroom (simple but im not gonna into detail on how less of a chance)
3. Make shrooms MORE powerful so that they're cracked normally but on slippery terrain will make u crash into the next turn at mach speed, stunning u.
4. when in a shroom boost, if u hit a wall u will lose coins and spin stun (or whtver its called)
but yeah
This is my idea of making Traction good
:)
Bowser Jr is a troublemaking little gremlin and I love him
once playing Mario kart with my sister and found tallcat
That black Yoshi really loves front running
I just saw a „Shortfox“ from the Netherlands today while playing! Maybe you’ll play against them some day haha. The Shortanimal family is growing
My kids love watching your vids shortcat! We play mk8 all together. My son who is 6 is named Liam too, so he especially loved this video! Cheers from Texas!
i find it really interesting that there's a hidden "mini boost" stat that players aren't allowed to see that's VERY relevant to some players. But they make sure you know what your "traction" stat is even though it's basically pointless information.
4:32 "But that kid is not my son. PROCEEDS TO YEET HIM."
Makes sense. Bowser Jr would know exactly how to handle his car.