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DEEP DIVE Into The ALL-NEW, ALL-ELECTRIC Polaris Ranger XP Kinetic
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2022
- Mike takes a deep dive into the all-new, fully electric Polaris Ranger XP Kinetic exploring its full potential and the impact this electric powerplant will have on the industry.
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Anyone who pays attention to the off-road trail systems around the country, especially in the northeast, knows that machine noise is a major problem for establishing sustainable, interconnected trail systems. It's a constant battle with locals just to establish land to drive on. I can't wait for the technological advances that are coming in the next decade that will make electric a no-brainer and will really help overcome one of the largest objections to the creation of trail systems around the country. ATV manufacturers have done a horrible job at reining in the noise on their traditional machines, so this should be awesome. In 10 years, when you can get 400 miles of charge in about 10 minutes, all this hand-wringing and nay-saying should largely go away.
Great idea but until they bring down that 20 hr charge time, it’s not gonna happen.
There’s plenty of places to ride off road or sound is not an issue the thrill of the sound of the engine in the machine working there’s a lot of enjoyment electric it’s just not a good idea maybe decades from now who wants to recharge the machine and what are you gonna do if you’re riding all day I need a recharge gas is still a better option
I think the noise has more to do with guys putting aftermarket kits on. I'd say the future millage and charge time you listed will never be realized
Charge times and mileage will be improved over time. New technology with Super Capacitors is showing charge times in minutes and recharge cycles on the order of 100,000-1,000,000. Issue is having a charge station with enough kilowatts to dump that much energy within mins. Give it time, it's coming! Biggest issue with electric anything is water and moisture!
@@proTscape ya I'd be scared every time I got to water that you couldn't see the bottom
I actually love this. Finally a sxs that you can talk to your passenger without yelling or having a helmet mic. Or play some tunes at reasonable volume. 80 miles aint bad for a first gen.
Have been subbed for awhile love the vids
That's awesome! Thanks Marshy!! ✌👊💥
Excellent Vid - pity about the race cars in background haha - Good that the range is real world
Awesome! Can’t wait to see more EV Polaris UTVs
With a 4 seater you could for a bigger battery pack!
I would love you to record the noise level from both the outside as it drove past and also from within the cab, otherwise great show, thanks
I feel like it will be a perfect wildlife filmmakers' vehicle..specially in the jungle where big and noisy 4X4s are not suitable to film wildlives...
Hunting, trails, and SHTF apocalypse machine.
Hello, will this machine start on an incline from a parked situation? Will the parking brake hold and release as the accelerator depressed similar to a golf cart or do you need to two foot it? Does it have hill hold control? Thanks
This seems like the deluxe version. I'd really like to see them put some effort into a more affordable, work-related machine. The towing and payload capacities are impressive, but I have ZERO need to go 60 MPH. I need a UTV for working in the woods. I'd gladly trade some of that 110 Hp and top end speed for more range or a more affordable price. Their claimed range would be fine for me if all I was doing was riding around unloaded. However, I'm sure I'll get nothing near that when towing an 800# log splitter or a 1000+# trailer. I will be watching them closely to see if they come out with other models in this series.
Honestly, the original Polaris EV (25 MPH max speed) would suit my needs, but they really need to update the technology. Get rid of the flooded lead acid batteries for Lithium Ion or some other modern offering, change the charging system to be able to work off the same SAE J1772 charger I use for our electric car. If they can do that while keeping the price reasonable I'd be waiting in line to order.
I am encouraged by the offering of the XP Kinetic. It shows what can be done with a "high end" design for an electric UTV. Now how about filling out the line-up?
Hopefully more quad videos in the works, not a big sxs guy in general.
Nice vehicle.....but not $30,000 nice.
Never would buy one but nice video
Fair enough. Thanks for commenting ✌
Cold weather, there has to be a major impact.
In extreme cold you can expect between 65-70 percent of your battery charge.
It would b great if they make this a northstar ultimate trail boss
I like the idea of it but nothing I'd buy. I'm not against EV but like the new F150 lightening it's range is OK empty but once you add mass it drops very quick and more than a gas equivalent.
I'm really confused about extreme delay in delivery where Polaris cites supply chain shortages that have been known for literal years but they seem to act as though it's all of a sudden. What kind of timeline is there for delivery of the products? Is it 2022 still or is it going to be Q1, Q2, or Q3 of 2023? Any thoughts?
We feel ya. Delays are frustrating.
Can you get heat, air conditioning, and solid doors?
I wonder if Brent wears his helmet when driving around his property? Every Polaris video the driver and passengers are wearing helmets, but out west I don't recall ever seeing an adult wear a helmet in a Ranger, whether that's around their property, forest service, state or BLM land. I would like to have an electric Ranger though!
My biggest gripe with most ATV's and SXS's is that they use a belt drive snowmobile type transmission that is very noisy so this actually interests me. Thanks for sharing!
It's an interesting comment. I don't find a CVT to be overly noisy. The specific effort Polaris made to make this vehicle quieter though is impressive.
@@dirttraxtv They should have tried to tighten up the chassis for the regular machines, my 900 is a rattle trap from brand new
Some are more than others, snorkelled ones tend to be louder because the CVT exaust in your face is like a personal CVT speaker.
However, the AC prowler pro is probably the quietest as the machine running is quieter than you talking to a buddy 2 ft away.
But like I've commented before in this machine. It is not going to be great for going I to the wilderness. It's likely fantastic on a farm/ranch with the torque of an EV.
And again, for those that are oblivious to science and manufacturing, EV's are NOT ENVIRONMENTALLY CLEANER TGAN GAS. I Ly when you compare a finished product does it look cleaner. But when considering mining, batteries, power plant types used to generate electricity, and all the oil based products such as plastics, EV's are dirty. But they have benefits and uses for some scenarios.
🏆🏆🏆👍🇺🇲🙏.
Thank you for sharing
So plugged in at the campground 120 volt is 20hrs recharge? Ouch
Or plug in at a campground with a 240V outlet and charge in 5 hours.
What I don't like about electrics? Now take that utv to Idaho, Montana or the Dakotas during winter when below zero. Then see how long they last. Never will totally replace the combustion engine until some new technology comes along. 😊
4-door NorthStar edition and I’m in
IT needs a bigger battery at least 50 kWh battery and a fast charge option
I love the advantages of electric but the few major disadvantages make them unusable. 1. Slow charging 2. Availability of charging (particularly off-grid/road) and the 3.Extremely low mileage (especially for such a long charge time). It's a niche market that needs to exist but I hope they don't force it into their line-ups too hard. Obviously it's less the choice of the manufacturers and more of the government mandates and changes within industry but that's just not realistic yet.
Good points here. Thanks for commenting.
Out of curiosity, what government mandate impacts side-by-sides? They aren't impacted by fuel efficiency standards and aren't treated like cars, so I'm surprised to hear that mandates are involved in this push in any way.
@@richbleak3188 neither is lawn equipment but California is pushing for an all electric conversion by 2032', I believe, in addition to vehicles. You won't be able to buy anything gas in California by 2035'. They're even making financing anything, that produces an exhaust, unavailable!
Does anyone know the price of the 100V replacement battery? All batteries will wear out so replacement is just a matter of time. I did a search but could only find the 12V accessory battery listed. I know my hobby high discharge lipo batteries all last around 2 years or around 50 quick recharges or 80 trickle charges.
You will never need to replace the battery
@@smhbbag1 I hope your kidding. Every battery fails. High Capacity batteries on fast charges fail faster. Every battery has a duty cycle, it should be published by the manufacturer.
@@txhookey5608 The battery will outlast the frame and the wheels, so why does it matter when it will fail? 30 years? 50?
Your batteries suck. I'd love to know what garbage manufacturer is making batteries that fail in any tools after 2 years or that number of charges.
@@smhbbag1 I'm an Electrical Engineer with 32 years of experience. 30 to 50 years life on a high capacity battery is not going to happen. Look up the original Polaris E UTV. Many died in the first 3 years. There have been improvements but you will be lucky to get 10 years out of this type of battery. The replacement will likely be 3 to 4 thousand dollars or more. Under heavy use and frequent recharges the battery will likely last around 5 to 7 years.
Zero is a garage company that builds overpriced, underperforming bikes with poor range. They also use Teslas's BS sales model of selling you features the bike already comes with (more power, faster charging) after purchase through software upgrades. I wouldn't touch anything associated with Zero.
Good informative video, except for that stupid music playing throughout. Would’ve been nice to actually HEAR the Ranger in operation at high and lower speeds to show off it’s quiet operation …. Good otherwise.
Put your hands over your ears right now and tell me what you hear. That's what it sounds like!
That would be perfect for my small farm! I'm sure it is not cheap, though.
30 CDN,
We just bought one, taking possession in 2-3 weeks. At first we went for a Kubota, but it was 28k CAD and the kinetic premium was like 30k... For suck a small difference we went for electric instead of gas, just cause it makes more sense for us and our farm. Plus we already have an electric vehicule so the choice was easy :)
Cool, Im so tired of yelling and constant maintenance. I go 20KMs ish during an outing , 80miles is what id do in a month. I'll be looking out for a used one two years from now. I also have an Electric car and I'd have to say the blatant misinformation and outright willful ignorance is astounding and I feel like I lose fn braincells looking at these comments.
40-80 miles into the woods then tow it back with the gas job
I bet it will smoke a 1000 ranger in a drag race.
That will be fun to test out!!
Even with electric motors Polaris couldn't get away from the belt. Smh.
Electric batteries weigh sooo much and are not long lasting
Modern batteries can last well over a decade. Much more if properly cared for.
Why are the big Japanese brands lagging so far behind?
Big question.
A deep dive without the price?
Link in the description goes directly to the Polaris website which lists the price. Plus, price has been mentioned a dozen times in the comments of our walk-around of this vehicle.
@@dirttraxtv Sorry to be such a bother. I work 2 jobs and don't spend much time on the desktop. I assure you it won't happen again.
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I can't see a farmer wanting one of these, they are more expensive and you would have to have a charing station put in as 20 hours without one is just crazy. Now as a hunter the quiet part sounds great but there's no way I could take it out for the weekend with that mileage, also they need to make it so it can go in deeper water, you'd be constantly turning around at puddle that look to deep.
I take my sxs to our property down south of our house. we rarely put over 50 miles over the weekend. so I've been looking at this closely.
The engine and battery are completely water sealed. In theory they can go far deeper than gas since you don't need a snorkel. Secondly I'd wager only a very small percentage of people go more than 20-40 miles on a weekend hunting trip.
Norwegian hill farmer here. For what we use utv/atv for here, which will be just quick small tasks out on pastures and fitting where a tractor is too big, this would work a charm, and its not that much more expensive than a diesel, and immensely faster and stronger. If I were to buy an utv, I think this would be it.
@@frostman9661 they give a depth reading for a reason.
You still didn't answer the dunk test nor did you attempt it! Up to the floor boards is half the rim height. You know as well as I that people go deeper with regular rangers and emerge just fine as long as the engine can breathe. What happens if you unintentionally dip too deep? I know it will shut down but what then? Reset button once your out? Drying out time? Hang it from a clothes line??? If y'all want to help sell these things then let's expose some real facts and not just the ones that help sell it! If you dont know it's true limitations, would you take it out without hesitation, or hell, even buy one????
For starters, I'm not selling these and I don't give a crap if you buy one or not. Second, gave you all the information I had without doing our own private testing of the unit. Third, we asked our viewers specifically what they wanted to know about this vehicle. Where were you then? I would've made specific calls to Polaris to find these questions out. I think your question was answered pretty well in the video, but when we got our own unit we'll push it further to find out more.
@@dirttraxtv btw, the last line of my first response was from a consumer point of view and not yours as a demonstrator. I was speaking using "you" to mean the end consumer, not you particularly.
A battery operated atv is just a golf cart . 🤪
I would actually love to drive a 110 horsepower golf cart. That would rip.
50 grand? I don’t think so. 😂😂😂😂
Now when it catches fire. It’ll burn for days Haha
Says 45 miles the minute you put a loaf on it or use it to plow in the winter that is going to get cut in half. And anyone who owns property knows its a lot easier to take a gas tank with you then to have charging stations all over your property. In my opinion it's absolutely useless. It's a glorified golf cart
In extreme cold you can expect between 65-70 percent of your battery charge.
@@dirttraxtv exactly then you add a plow to it with the weight of snow and I wouldn't be able to plow my driveway on a full charge. Granted my driveway is about 1000 feet long but still. The battery technology is great for a lot of things it's just not there yet for buggies and full sized trucks. As we are seeing with people trying to toe campers and only getting 80 miles and frantically searching for a charging station that works.
Hmmmm, a mile is 5280 feet. So if you go up and down your 1000 ft driveway say 30 times that is 30000 feet or around 6 miles. Even with a compromised range of 30 miles you should be fine? Is my math wrong?
price and millage will kill this machine.. sorry
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Wouldn't own it watse of money
That's not good enough range. 25 thousand or more for 80 miles range. It's a gimmick,nothing more. Don't waste your money.
This is so missleading. No way it is certified over 100hp. 750 watts are needed for each hp = 75,000 watts, not happening. Bring it up here to Kremmling CO, let's see how far it falls behind over a days work here in the Real world against an uforce 1000 with no rattles.
Hoping to get our own unit sometime this fall and then we will run it against some of its competitors.
@@dirttraxtv The trick is keeping it an honest comparison. At 750 watts per HP you're going to drain the battery storage bank in the blink of an eye trying to keep up with a legitimate 70 hp side by side. I never recommend reusing ev manufacturers ratings as advertising. I want electric to be good enough, but the reality is it's horrific. Manufacturers always promise better battery technology is just around the bend, but it never is. What we have now is only marginally better than the nicads of the seventies that lasted 40 years. As far as the rattles go, I find this an interesting subject because any side-by-side I come across out here in the rockies, rattles like it's on its deathbed over the rocks. For some reason my CF moto is tight and makes no rattles. Polaris must be struggling with proper fitting suspension components or something.
I've been trying to get an electric dirt bike or side-by-side to come up here into the rockies for a comparison for about 2 years now and not one person has taken me up on this offer. I am even offering my brand new YZFX to the Victor on an electric dirtbike.
@@MiddlePark No doubt CFMOTO is making some nice stuff.
@@dirttraxtv Just about Every brand is making something awesome. But this electric stuff is not good for us at all. Love you channel, but I have to speak my mind about this dark path towards an all electric powersports industry we are headed down pinned in 6th.
Useless
EV's suck!
I laugh at all the electric hate. Silly hill billys
Using that gas to start a fire here...
What specific concerns that people are having about this machine do you find unreasonable?
@@justind6039 he's too busy humping a tree to respond. Let him spend his money on a combination of 2 awful manufacturers for an electric turd with a realistic 30 mile range at best.
This "hillbilly" owns a Prius C and wouldn't waste my money on this garbage.
say no to electric
Why?
@@andersbjrnsen7203Fear of change.
As an around the homestead, log pulling, firewood hauling, hunting vehicle, I say it's plenty capable.
Moreover if you have a carport/garage where you can solar up the roof, and wind up a pole, you have your means of charging the unit while it's not in use, without using grid power.
I'd prefer an RTG myself, 1-2kw, but the government frowns upon civilization ownership of radioactive stuff and such. So no bueno there...
EVs are trash......change my mind.
No.