The Man who Became Pope Three Times (Pope Benedict IX)

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  • Опубликовано: 9 июн 2024
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    This is the story of Pope Benedict IX, one of the youngest popes in history, the first pope to willfully step down as pope, and the pope who was on the papal throne not once, not twice, but three times.
    CGPGrey video mentioned: • How to Become Pope
    Some sources:
    Benedict IX and Gregory VI by Reginald Lane Poole
    Pope Benedict IX In The Catholic Encyclopedia www.newadvent.org/cathen/0242...
    New Schaff-Herzog Encyclopedia of Religious Knowledge
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Комментарии • 211

  • @hard2getitrightagain314
    @hard2getitrightagain314 2 года назад +31

    The modern renunciation certainly appears more outwardly peaceful, but it is impossible to overstate the amount of intrigue that led up to it.

  • @frste26
    @frste26 2 года назад +16

    "in this instance it wasn't so Innocent"
    no in this instance it was Benedict and John.

  • @joycekoch5746
    @joycekoch5746 3 года назад +74

    POPE BENEDICT IX was famous for public parties which got more outrageous
    and spectacular with time. He was more interested in being Pope to have fun less than to serve God.

    • @harrisonsamwel3112
      @harrisonsamwel3112 3 года назад +12

      there is no serving god in being pope

    • @marcopolo9146
      @marcopolo9146 2 года назад +3

      @@harrisonsamwel3112 well said. I agree completely.

    • @popefrancis8153
      @popefrancis8153 2 года назад +2

      @@harrisonsamwel3112 he’s literally the vicar of Christ and the head of the church

    • @Alusnovalotus
      @Alusnovalotus 2 года назад

      Most popes were like that but kept up appearances for the most part.

    • @Alusnovalotus
      @Alusnovalotus 2 года назад +2

      @@popefrancis8153 not really. It was a created office and Jesus never designated a successor. Most popes were never elected on merit but lineage. Bribery, blackmail and even murder were a norm in electing the (western) Catholic Church.

  • @Monosekist
    @Monosekist 2 года назад +22

    We are living in an era of "first in a long time" resignations. In addition to the previous Pope, the previous Emperor of Japan resigned a couple of years ago also do to age related factors.

    • @felixniederhauser7799
      @felixniederhauser7799 2 года назад +1

      And otherrs had to go,no matter what. Remember John Pail I?
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_John_Paul_I

  • @justincassablanca5479
    @justincassablanca5479 3 года назад +13

    Amazing video! Great job!

  • @fiaortega4991
    @fiaortega4991 2 года назад +1

    Love your channel! Keep it up man

  • @solomonmatthews7921
    @solomonmatthews7921 3 года назад +1

    Excellent video, your channel will surely take off.

  • @bryonsmith4384
    @bryonsmith4384 2 года назад +14

    We've all seen the CGP Grey video, after all.

  • @jamescollins4500
    @jamescollins4500 2 года назад +3

    I had heard parts of this story before, but lead me more to confusion than understanding. Thanks for the summary,

  • @pranavpothanis6702
    @pranavpothanis6702 3 года назад +21

    Awesome stuff man!! You earned a new sub!!

  • @MM22966
    @MM22966 Год назад +2

    3:25 "...in this instance, it was not so Innocent..."
    I see what you did there. :)

  • @mbyrd6713
    @mbyrd6713 2 года назад +1

    Wow, thanks for the info ❤️

  • @davidstanton4241
    @davidstanton4241 2 года назад +5

    The worst thing about the resignation of benadict 16 is that it was partially resignation

    • @cgt3704
      @cgt3704 2 года назад

      Well having two popes is not a new thing. There were even three popes at the same time.

  • @suranjanadutta1840
    @suranjanadutta1840 2 года назад

    Such an interesting channel....subscribed....

  • @rev.paull.vasquez4001
    @rev.paull.vasquez4001 2 года назад +14

    It was speculated at the time of Benedict XVI election that he chose the then unpopular name to signal his willingness to resign if necessary (though not to cause havoc by returning multiple times). What do you think?

    • @xELITExKILLAx
      @xELITExKILLAx 2 года назад +6

      Not saying you’re wrong, but how unpopular could the name be when there were 7 other popes after the IX to use that name?

  • @thetrison
    @thetrison 2 года назад +25

    Imagine Emperor Henry III hearing about Rome and being like "bruh."

    • @SirRyanChadius
      @SirRyanChadius 2 года назад +1

      Idk that'd be funny I think

    • @Perririri
      @Perririri 2 года назад +2

      Saying bruh is normie

    • @SirRyanChadius
      @SirRyanChadius 2 года назад

      @@Perririri normie? That's not a thing I've heard since the battle of '16. Perhaps we should keep it there

    • @Cjnw
      @Cjnw 2 года назад +1

      Saying bruh is normie

    • @Nikku4211
      @Nikku4211 2 года назад

      @@Perririri It wasn't normie back in the Middle Ages.

  • @AlvinCornelius
    @AlvinCornelius 2 года назад +1

    That laugh 3:52 was from MJ's Thriller, right?

  • @lmaocetung
    @lmaocetung 2 года назад +1

    Great video but,...wait...why the hell is there only 15 comments??

  • @jacktribble5253
    @jacktribble5253 2 года назад +6

    A peaceful passing doesn't guarantee a better Pope...

  • @ignacioarellano1834
    @ignacioarellano1834 2 года назад +1

    if you make a playlist of the monarcs of rome, omg all the pontifus maximos

  • @derrickstorm6976
    @derrickstorm6976 2 года назад +2

    Sylvester III, more like Senator Palpatine

  • @men_del12
    @men_del12 2 года назад

    The hat in thumbnail looks good.

  • @camilomadrigal6762
    @camilomadrigal6762 2 года назад +4

    Ayy cgp grey fan

  • @jimmyday656
    @jimmyday656 2 года назад

    Love the picture of the Bush family, that dynasty is Barbra Bush's. She is a descendant of Franklin Pierce.

  • @dangroom9120
    @dangroom9120 2 года назад +2

    No, that would be Alexander VI.
    Most spineless to stop evil when he could have done something was Clement V.

  • @ericdoe2318
    @ericdoe2318 2 года назад +5

    The definition of nepotism

  • @sirpopsticks619
    @sirpopsticks619 2 года назад

    I thought there was something wrong with my computer at the 08:00 of the video

  • @CliffCardi
    @CliffCardi 2 года назад

    Who else is here from Blue’s Pope Fights from OSP?

  • @katsu_papi
    @katsu_papi 2 года назад +3

    well, surprise!! we evolved as a society and are now much more diplomatic.. .

  • @1.4142
    @1.4142 2 года назад

    wikipedia unusual articles

  • @szabados1980
    @szabados1980 2 года назад

    What... Italy, German in the Mediaeval Ages? Calling an abdication a renunci...ciciatation? I wonder if the rest of your videos are equally bungled.

    • @tronicman1
      @tronicman1 2 года назад

      The king of the Germans usually became Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire of German nation, crowned by the Pope of Rome.

  • @ioakimmakis9288
    @ioakimmakis9288 2 года назад +21

    one big historical mistake, you said "the Eastern Orthodox Church broke from the Catholic Church", this is wrong. The Church broke in two and not one side from the other side.

    • @Skerdy
      @Skerdy 2 года назад +4

      Actually not true! The very word "Catholic" nean "Universal" as in united... not saying which side was right or wrong, but the Catholic side wanted to maintain the church united (under Rome of course) while the other refused (cause they didn't thought Rome had the right of supremacy)... valid argument, if you think which (supposedly) virgin claims to be the representative of Christ is valid whatsoever.
      Again, not at all interested in "right" and "wrong", just in accurancy, but the Catholic side wanted unification, while the Orthodox side did not, probably for good reasons, but... that makes the Orthodox Church the very definition of breaking out from a united (Catholic) system...

    • @user-sw5bq3ek8q
      @user-sw5bq3ek8q 2 года назад +1

      @@Skerdy the terms "catholic" and "orthodox" are technicall terms, they don't represent a theological or dogmatic accuracy. 1) the catholic church may not be a real universal church because the authority of the pope was only on the geographic regions of Europe, the eastern churches have authority on Asia and Africa. The church of Rome had only one patriarch (the pope) bat the eastern churches had 4 patriachets ( Constantinople, Alexandria, Antioch, and Jerusalem). So the eastern churches looks Mach more universal than Rome. 2) at 10th century the eastern empire had a huge population in large cities , in the same era west had no big population. 3) the supremacy of the Rome is recognized by the eastern churches bat eastern traditions is not understanding this supremacy as an authority of the pope over the entire churche, the supremacy in the eastern tradition is understud as a Honore among the pentarchy of the 5 patriarchetes, bat this honore it das'not mean the pope has the right to have opinion or roll in the internal of an other patriarchete.

    • @Episcopalianacolyte
      @Episcopalianacolyte 2 года назад +1

      You are right that the church split in two. The cause was culture and changing the Nicean Creed as well as papal authority.
      Cuture: the Western churches used Latin in the liturgy while the Eastern Churches used the common languages of the people. The liturgy was different in the west as many churches developed their own styles of worship and prayer (the Dominion Rite, the Liturgy of St. James are two examples). The Eastern churches used The Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom. The monastics in the West practiced a more communal life while the Eastern monastics were individual in practice only gathering for Liturgy.
      Creed and papal authority: the Roman pontiff inserted the filique into the creed without the approval of a council. The Council of Nicea formulated the creed so a council was needed to change it. Those differences are why the churches never have been in full communion with each other. The West did not unify it's Liturgy untill The Council of Trent 1000 years later.
      The Western churches are not in full communion with each other and sadly remains much less united than those in the East.

    • @GR65330
      @GR65330 2 года назад +1

      If you read the early Church fathers, you would see that the Church has always been Catholic united with the Petrine Primacy.

    • @bunnygirl8482
      @bunnygirl8482 2 года назад

      Both are wrong. Constantine created the story both believe in which is based on Roman Gods he believed in. I know it's too late to go back but Atleast try to.

  • @johncarsone1579
    @johncarsone1579 Год назад

    It seems that history is repeating itself. We haven't learned from past mistakes so are doomed to repeat them

  • @6williamson
    @6williamson 2 года назад +3

    this is why we worship God and not the leaders in the Church

    • @bunnygirl8482
      @bunnygirl8482 2 года назад +1

      What proof do you have that you don't worship God created by leaders? What if whole bible was made up by generations and generations of edit by these leaders?

    • @middleeasternforhire8985
      @middleeasternforhire8985 2 года назад

      @@bunnygirl8482 bibles, Quran, Islam Christianity, Jewish..ect... all designed by some Highe power ( not God ) for control and manipulation of people to not question the creation and the world around them and to distract them compare the ancient Greece, Persia, Rome, Egypt, ect to after when religions appeared! Compare them to medival times! How much humanity was held back until renisance

    • @middleeasternforhire8985
      @middleeasternforhire8985 2 года назад

      Sorry of the bad English

  • @doyouknoworjustbelieve6694
    @doyouknoworjustbelieve6694 2 года назад

    According to this video, he was also the first to sell the papacy.

  • @brianskanes1
    @brianskanes1 3 года назад +14

    Man how rich was his dad !? That must of been the world's largest bribe

    • @andrewemery4272
      @andrewemery4272 2 года назад +1

      Na. Kennedy and Bush familie make this look amateurish.

  • @jesusexposed1848
    @jesusexposed1848 2 года назад

    earth is Heaven I'm not giving my Power up

  • @dabass438
    @dabass438 2 года назад

    I assume you’re referring to Catholic Popes of Rome, not Orthodox Popes of Alexandria nor Coptic Popes of Alexandria (nor Orthodox Popes of Rome (prior to 12/25/800)).

  • @vaticanjesuitNWO
    @vaticanjesuitNWO 2 года назад +6

    He was once, twice, three times the Antichrist! And when for a time there were three popes at once, they all hurled anathemas and damnations at one another and calling each other, "Antichrist". All three were correct!!!

    • @dontalkt2meboutheros
      @dontalkt2meboutheros 2 года назад +1

      😂 the Catholic Church echelons has become exactly the same structure as the Jewish church in the New Testament times, which Jesus denounced.

    • @vaticanjesuitNWO
      @vaticanjesuitNWO 2 года назад

      @@dontalkt2meboutheros Exactly, and what is even more significant is the fact that the Roman Catholic Priesthood continue to make sacrifices and oblations after Jesus caused all sacrifices and oblations to cease 2000 years ago when He Himself became the sacrifice to end all sacrifices in the midst of the 70th and final week of Daniel's 70 week prophecy as recorded in Daniel 9:24-27. We know that the Jewish hierarchy (priesthood) also continued to make sacrifices after Christ's crucifixion because they didn't acknowledge the blood of Jesus. To put a permanent end to this abomination, God used the Roman Tenth Legion to raze the Temple to the ground and scattered the Jews. Soon, God will do the same to their Roman Catholic equivalents.

    • @dontalkt2meboutheros
      @dontalkt2meboutheros 2 года назад

      @@vaticanjesuitNWO Remember though, with God anything is possible.

    • @vaticanjesuitNWO
      @vaticanjesuitNWO 2 года назад

      @@dontalkt2meboutheros ???

    • @dontalkt2meboutheros
      @dontalkt2meboutheros 2 года назад

      @@vaticanjesuitNWO Seriously? My comment shouldn't render 3 question marks. You should know the depth of that meaning. Surely?

  • @anisothmen3712
    @anisothmen3712 Год назад

    So much holiness around catholicism -_-

  • @samsonwilkinson8090
    @samsonwilkinson8090 2 года назад +1

    First you say that popes weren't elected back then but then you say that Gregory was 'elected.'
    What?

  • @KenDelloSandro7565
    @KenDelloSandro7565 Год назад +1

    I'd rather have a Benedict ix than a Francis i. At least the former was a Catholic.

    • @user-fy7hx9gd6u
      @user-fy7hx9gd6u Год назад

      Only if what you mean by "was a Catholic" is r*ping animals, which I mean that's not too far off when you see what's done to children

  • @mjw907
    @mjw907 2 года назад +6

    Benedict IX is still alive today at 94.

    • @johannweber5185
      @johannweber5185 2 года назад +13

      XVI

    • @jjayjewel
      @jjayjewel 2 года назад +14

      The Pope you wrote about, Benedict the 9th, was born in 1012. He is very much not alive today.

  • @abdullahibnhasan1323
    @abdullahibnhasan1323 2 года назад +1

    Then, I dont understand why so much of Islamaphobia... even though we love & adore Jesus (PBUH)....

  • @malicemizer9596
    @malicemizer9596 2 года назад +4

    still corrupted

  • @regdor8187
    @regdor8187 2 года назад +4

    So much for "installed by God".....Is a wonder that they could walk with those clay feet......

    • @truthreason1206
      @truthreason1206 2 года назад

      Actually the Catholic Church doesn’t teach that the Pope is installed by God. The Church believes that God works with who ever the college of cardinals elect.
      Any organization that is over 2,000 years will certainly have very bad leaders at some point.

  • @maximumsecurity9411
    @maximumsecurity9411 2 года назад

    They are all the same!
    They should be put the truth out!

  • @user-sw5bq3ek8q
    @user-sw5bq3ek8q 2 года назад +1

    eastern church did not split from the catholic, nor even catholics split from the eastern church. that hapen is that the ancient church divited in two fractions

    • @yucol5661
      @yucol5661 2 года назад

      Yeah, the garter to you back the herder it is to say that entities like earthen church or Catholic church or “the church” existed. Not lots of official records from a minority religion of slaves and the poor.

    • @bunnygirl8482
      @bunnygirl8482 2 года назад

      Some people wanted power so they founded catholic church

  • @tjwatts1207
    @tjwatts1207 Год назад +1

    It's like if Donald Trump was a pope

  • @edwardschneider6396
    @edwardschneider6396 2 года назад +2

    "Religion began when the first scoundrel met the first fool." ~ Voltaire

    • @polemeros
      @polemeros 2 года назад

      Check out Mr Voltaire's voluminous writings on the Jews and then ask yourself if you wanna quote him as some clever wise man.

    • @hugsli
      @hugsli 2 года назад

      @@polemeros that's the most stupid thing I've heard all week

    • @polemeros
      @polemeros 2 года назад

      @@hugsli How so?

    • @edwardschneider6396
      @edwardschneider6396 2 года назад

      @@hugsli You are observant. Voltaire was a Rationalist. He wrote a lot on Judaism because Christianity is a descendant of the Abrahamic bloodline. Just like Islam claims to be.

  • @graduardo
    @graduardo 3 года назад +6

    Hahahaha..."When the Eastern Orthodox Church broke from the Catholic church".
    Laugh of the month! Thanks for making history funny!

  • @Jada452
    @Jada452 2 года назад

    WOW JUST WOW!!... I know it was most up but not like that lol... tbh I can't say I would not have down the same my self but I would have not been that bad of a pope eathere lol

  • @cees1rijp
    @cees1rijp 2 года назад

    Graaiers, en maar bidden.

  • @thli8472
    @thli8472 3 года назад +3

    depoped

  • @robertd.carver6240
    @robertd.carver6240 2 года назад

    The word "willfully" is misused. "Willfully" means arrogantly, stubbornly or hardheadedly, resisting good advice or common sense. "Willingly" isn't quite accurate either, since Benedict was forced to resign. If you're going to use a word, for Chrissakes' use it correctly.

  • @mackenzied4598
    @mackenzied4598 2 года назад +3

    Well, here in 'MuriKKKa, we now have Oberfuhrer Drumpf...

    • @jacobh2147
      @jacobh2147 2 года назад

      You spelt America wrong

  • @yank-tc8bz
    @yank-tc8bz 2 года назад +3

    The Catholic Church broke from the Eastern Orthodox Church which was founded in 33 AD

    • @williemherbert1456
      @williemherbert1456 2 года назад

      They're not really broke off from anyone, they were just one of many spurs from the past Christian sect being organized locally and had their own unique creed and canonical Bible in many ancient cities that will continue to live on, and the major archbishop for Christian at that time were consisted of Constantinople, Rome, Antioch, Jerusalem, and Alexandria, but again there were another in Armenia, Abyssinia, Nubia, Gaelic, etc. Then of course being unified after the Meeting of Niceae in 3rd century, but then again in the midst of East-West Schism in 8-9th century, actually more or less the Catholic Roman Church had been organized as independent archbishop from any influence from Constantinople, and since the beginning they have few exclusive privilege more than other archbishop. For me the correct term might be Latin church and Greek church parting away in opposing direction from being one unified Church.

    • @Perririri
      @Perririri 2 года назад +1

      * 29 AD

    • @jgla4711
      @jgla4711 2 года назад +2

      Other way round.

    • @GR65330
      @GR65330 2 года назад +1

      A simple read of the Church fathers confirm that the Church has always been Catholic in union with the Petrine Primacy.

    • @bunnygirl8482
      @bunnygirl8482 2 года назад +1

      Yeah, Controlled by powerful people rather than community itself. Catholic church is similer to dictator who can bend history the way he wants. Do people even know real history of jesus and early church?

  • @marianfarkas8116
    @marianfarkas8116 2 года назад +1

    the catholic church break up from the orthodox one not viceversa
    read more

    • @truthreason1206
      @truthreason1206 2 года назад

      They both broke up from each other. Usually smaller parts break from the big part so the best way to determine who broke from who is to figure out which one had the largest membership at that time.

  • @mikemcmullin149
    @mikemcmullin149 2 года назад +4

    History keeps showing us how much the see of Rome is unfit to be the seat of the Christian church. :(

    • @popefrancis8153
      @popefrancis8153 2 года назад +1

      History keeps on showing us that humans are imperfect

    • @mikemcmullin149
      @mikemcmullin149 2 года назад

      @@popefrancis8153 After a long and notorious history, the bishop of Rome 'giving' Ireland to the King of England was the final nail in the coffin. The Sees closing of Scriptorums killed education for the laity, it's replacing of an Abbess with Temporally appointed Abbot's, an abhorrence. Canada's residential school system, just icing on the cake of corruption that includes gross antisemitism. That sir is well beyond simple imperfection.

    • @mikemcmullin149
      @mikemcmullin149 2 года назад

      Oh and let's not mention it tolerances for child diddling priests.

    • @popefrancis8153
      @popefrancis8153 2 года назад +1

      @@mikemcmullin149 that sir is humanity in a nutshell
      You can’t expect total Godliness when you have humans in control of something

    • @truthreason1206
      @truthreason1206 2 года назад

      Any organization that is over 2000 years old will certainly have many bad leaders. Humans are just flawed.

  • @antoniocarloslemosbasto294
    @antoniocarloslemosbasto294 2 года назад +2

    Not the worst pope in history. The worst is Francis, followed by St. Paul VI

  • @KarmaKraftttt
    @KarmaKraftttt 2 года назад +3

    A christian (catholic) here and most of us dont even see francis as a pope. 😂😂😂

    • @Ben-fx9kx
      @Ben-fx9kx 2 года назад +4

      Sure...

    • @KTBFFH8
      @KTBFFH8 2 года назад +3

      Do you understand Catholicism? He was chosen by the bishops if you don’t agree then that makes you a christian protestant.

    • @Ben-fx9kx
      @Ben-fx9kx 2 года назад

      @@KTBFFH8 Technically by the cardinals but yeah you're right

    • @KarmaKraftttt
      @KarmaKraftttt 2 года назад +3

      @@KTBFFH8 I understand more than you. Yeah he's the pope sure. But just like not all the president of a country's does good stuff always a pope can be the same. Just because he is the pope doesn't mean he cant be wrong. In fact francis is a disgrace to the chair of st.peter.

    • @Simon-1965
      @Simon-1965 2 года назад

      Any man that desires to be called holy father is a child of satan. Only God is the Holy Father.

  • @jovanweismiller7114
    @jovanweismiller7114 2 года назад +4

    He couldn't possibly be the worst Pope in history since the current occupant of Peter's Throne is, hands down, the worst Pope in history!

  • @sarto2010
    @sarto2010 2 года назад +3

    Worst Pope in history? Francis. By a country mile.

    • @bunnygirl8482
      @bunnygirl8482 2 года назад

      Why? Just because he reformed your religion rituals?

    • @sarto2010
      @sarto2010 2 года назад

      @@bunnygirl8482 My “religion rituals”? Dolt.

    • @jacobh2147
      @jacobh2147 2 года назад

      Why

    • @tobyroyparkerjr.233
      @tobyroyparkerjr.233 Год назад

      @@sarto2010 double standards

  • @jlouis4407
    @jlouis4407 2 года назад +1

    Francis is the worst, sorry.

  • @royporter_bown1189
    @royporter_bown1189 2 года назад +1

    I think pope Francis is the worst pope,he ought to jump ship to the Protestant church instead of ruining the true catholic church