You know the CPS2 is one of the best arcade platforms when games like Eco Fighters and Marvel Super Heroes is at the bottom of the list. Capcom really was the king of Arcades. The CPS1/2/3 and Neo-Geo are forever going to be the platforms that gave me the most enjoyment in the Arcade and now at home.
For me, SFA2 is my favourite of the 3, and is up there with SSF2T and MVC as my top 3 Capcom fighters. I've never been able to quite put my finger on why I like 2 best, just personal preference. Anyway, I've been absolutely loving all these longer compilation videos Kim! Thanks for keeping us entertained on lockdown! Stay safe.
I completely understand you too =) Although I'd say that more objectively SFA3 is the better game, SFA2 is the one I've replayed the most. It seems the most balanced of the 3 ^^
@@PixelsLtd well, I guess I can call myself that as well. :D Always tried to be the best fighting game player among my friends, but never competed in tournaments or played too much with random people at the arcades. And although I understand fighting game lingo and why some characters are OP and stuff like that, I'm probably not nearly competitive on any modern fighter ^^ But I've played pretty much all of the oldies from Capcom, SNK and other brands. It is my favorite game genre for sure =)
"A-ism, V-ism, and... Jism" 😂 Nice to see Mighty Pang so high up. Love Alien vs Predator, and Cadillacs & Dinosaurs is my favourite arcade beat 'em up too.
Not sure how you could possibly rate the first street fighter alpha over Alpha 2. Even with nostalgia goggles on, Anyone can clearly see Alpha 2 is superior in every way possible.
Cool review! I'd add that there are actually 42 CPS2 games. The 4 you missed were: - Vampire Savior 1 & 2 (yes, there are 5 unique games in the Vampire/Darkstalkers series) - Street Fighter Zero 2 Alpha (different from Zero 2 and Alpha 2. Thanks for the wonderfully confusing naming, Capcom!) - Super Street Fighter 2: Tournament Battle (unique from "New Challengers" in that it supported linking 4 arcade cabinets for a *drum roll* tournament battle). If you have any questions about CPS2, feel free to reach out. I actually own the complete 42 piece set :)
For anyone who isn't familiar, Vampire 1 & 2 are just Vampire Savior with a few characters removed and the Darkstalkers 2 characters (Donovan, Huitzil/Phobos, Pyron) added back in. And Zero 2 Alpha (also called Alpha 2 Gold in the US) was an attempt to rebalance Alpha 2 for competitive play that didn't really work and never caught on.
@@joshthefunkdoc Vampire Savior 2/Hunter 2 also have some system changes coming from Savior 1 (like a new Dark Force mechanic replacing the original one, air chain combos limited to Dark Force too, it's harder to escape from throws by jumping - and they also made Oboro Bishamon playable and added a "secret character" of sorts called Marionette, although she's just a mirror match mode where you always turn into your opponent), although like Zero 2 Alpha those changes were mostly rejected.
George Kamitani was an artist on Tower of Doom and Shadow Over Mystara. If you liked those games check out Dragon's Crown on the PS3 and PS4 he was the director and an artist and writer on that game as well and it's pretty much the spiritual successor to Capcom's D&D series.
I love a bit of Marvel Superheroes.... great memories of University in the mid to late 90s! My mate and I nearly finished Heroes of the Lance on the ZX Spectrum, but we didn't pick up the Macguffin before running to the right and it told us we lost...
1944 is a great addition to the Final Fight Arcade 1up cabinet. I play mine all the time. It's strange how I think I am bored of it, then I go back all over again. So addictive!
So you're among the few uploaders I've seen who actually *refer* to Cyborg Justice, and for that, I appreciate it. Tons of nostalgia associated with it.
You are wrong about Mega Man Power Battles 1, you can select the stage, it is random select if you don't time the attack button press. When it highlights a stage, press the attack button at the right time. Selecting the stages in order IS essential to getting the highest score.
I actually love playing "Night Warriors: DarkStalkers' Revenge" just a bit more than "Vampire Savior" due to gameplay being much more simpler to pull off special moves while also having quite a bit of nostalgia after playing it on the Sega Saturn. Not only that, but it's also several times superior to its predecessor "DarkStalkers: The Night Warriors", so I'm pretty disappointed that you would only place it as Number 25 on your list.
The CP-System games are perfect, but the arcade games that Capcom should've never made are the Quiz-games. • The gameplay itself is just bonus level material. • They have the lowest-sells outside of Japan and are not included in game collections and Arcade1UP cabinets. • You never see anyone going to them to do online match-ups on FightCade.
thank you. this does help me through these tough times. i'm an american and british gaming channels have been a big part of keeping me sane these past few weeks (partially because it started from such different places and is fascinating). good luck with your country, ours is having a rough time, and my area is the hot spot right now. hopefully things will level out but they're telling us its a bad idea to even go grocery shopping this week. i may be drinking during this video
hopefully capcom will release more of these in the future whether that be under the capcom arcade stadium, marvel vs street fighter collection, or darkstalkers collection
Capcom should make a new "Dark Stalkers" game , they abandoned the poor series. Oh well can't wait for SF Alpha 1 and Dark Stalker On the Sega Genesis/MD coming out
Wonderful list, Kim! So much nostalgia pouring all over, it was an amazing trip through the catalogue of an arcade board I played a lot of as well =) Of course, I'd place a few games on different places, but it's like you mentioned, in some cases it all boils down to personal preference and experience with the games. I'd rank SFA2 higher than SFA, simply because it's one of those sequels that did everything right. I had already played and beaten SFA at the arcades (and loved it!), and I was oozing for excitement when I finally got a Saturn, and the first game I bought was SFA2. My expectations for an arcade experience were completely fulfilled, and more so. I can't say for sure that it's better than SFA3, although I do prefer it. MSHvs.SF was always my favorite of the 3 Vs. games, but my arguments for it are even flimsier than those for SFA2 ^^
Just seeing some of these fighting games on display, especially Super Turbo, gives me the urge to pull up Fightcade and get some rounds in. Thanks for the video and memories Kim.
Awesome video. Have an arcade machine running mame and this got my excited to go check some games. Also, can't wait for you to do a worst to best for Neo Geo MVS!
Very nice to hear your views of the games of the CPS1 and CPS2. They're such good arcade platforms, and I was just doing some reading up on them and playing a bunch of CPS games specifically a few months back. As I mentioned on the last video, I'm a big fan of Dynasty Wars, so that's one I go back to a lot. I also finally played the Mega Man arcade games. CPS2 is interesting because there's so much quality that good games will end up low on any list. I didn't love the direction Capcom took with most of their fighters starting with the CPS2, but they're well made. I became an SNK in those days. So that eliminates a lot of CPS2 games for me, but it's still a great hardware platform. Battle Circuit, Armored Warriors, and Alien vs. Predator are all fantastic beat-em-up games that I love. AVP is interesting because of the large move set and standard, limited projectile weapons. It's fast paced, but more defensive than other games. It leads to amazing scenarios where my character has no energy left, yet its still possible to manage a huge swarm of aliens and survive long enough without taking any hits to reach some food. I've been surprised by some of predicaments I've gotten out of. I mentioned Mega Man in the CPS1 video. I read about it and it appears that the CPS2 was the lead platform, so I agree with your decision to save it for this one. I believe even the Q-Sound logo was left in the ROM for the CPS1 game. The CPS1 version loses some voice samples, but it mostly the same. While I thought Capcom could be hit or miss with FM synthesis, I like the FM versions of the music in the CPS1 version and it's nice to be able to choose between the two versions of the game. I think the CPS2's PCM sound is great as well.
I had the same experience playing the OG Darkstalkers. I played it at a local pizza hut and I usually mained Frank. The food was probably better than what you had haha
I have very fond memories of playing Marvel vs Capcom and Street Fighter Alpha 2 at my local retro game store. After buying a few classic PS1 games, I'd slap in a few quid to play a few rounds of MVC1.
Shocking you got rid of SFA2 on Snes, even as a kid when it came out it held its value, I remember even in 1998 unboxed used copies going for £15-£25 and the rare time I saw them in the early 00's it was at least £30 for a unboxed or boxed version. I was desperate for it as a kid as loved SF games and gaming in gernal.
20:30 "I never used to win too much in Street Fighter. That is when I actually got on and the bigger kids didn't tell me to, quite literally "FUCK OFF" during a match. He he. Good times."
According to a friend that used to work at Capcom Super SF II Turbo was what they intended to release when they released Super. They were running behind and released the Super we got.
I think Battle Circuit's biggest problem is that it was pretty obscure back in the day, so most people don't have the nostalgia for it so it looses a few points. But yeah, it is up there with AvP for me for those sweet combos and special moves
I would still put SOR2 as better, BC is very good though. However if you liked Battle Circuit, have you played Guardians Denjin Makai 2? it's bloody fantastic.
Yeah I don't understand that at all. Battle Circuit has juggling, combos, powerups, and RPG-like progression that make most beatemups seem downright vanilla. I don't get the point of ranking things mostly by what he happens to have nostalgia for but then adding in things he didn't play till recently, but then he doesn't give a fair shake to things like Battle Circuit and doesn't point out what makes it so different
Not entirely true. For an individual release on a major home console, mobile app or PC no. But capcom officially sanctioned a "capcom home arcade" with beefy Arcade sticks and buttons to plug and play. It had AVP as one of the gamesWasn't cheap at £179 but not as expensive as some home arcades at £300 either. Bit cheeky as it had "final burn" which is MAME pirate software as the operating system! On that note a USB playstation or console pad is compatible with windows and Emu Paradise you can download a MAME and AVP ROM!
Yeah you can tell that the creators were fans of d&d and wanted the game to be not just fun but also loyal to the source material like the troll boss is weak to acid or fire' the dragon use their fire attack only thrice and spells do nothing on the final boss
Dimahoo is actually the third in the Mahou Daisakusen series - in fact its called Great Mahou Daisakusen. Also I remembered playing Dimahoo and Progear every Halloween season.
Thank you for recognising the awesomeness that is Gigawing! It and Progear saw plenty of attention from me in the arcades, but while I thought the theme and audio-visuals were superior, the former had it down for much more satisfying and addictive gameplay. The placings of the SFA series are kinda inverse for me, though. Sure Alpha 3 is certainly hard to beat in content and gameplay variety, but the first two (even if I think the first one's name describes more a dev stage than a prequel) are just works of art compared to it.
Alpha 3 is the least "Street Fighter"-feeling game in the entire mainline series, so i don't blame you there. A good chunk of its mechanics are more associated with anime fighters anymore, haha
I owe you, Kim. I think I've found the arcade game I played years ago, was really impressed with and never found again. Until now. Maybe. I think. I really can't remember too well! I'll check later...
I couldn’t have said it better myself! Every time I’d drift off and daydream about other titles as I’d be watching this Kim would just lay them right out as if he were reading my mind!! I didn’t think he’d mention the deluxe ps2 edition of SFII and yet he did hahaha BTW I gotta say Darkstalkers series seems somewhat underrated.. It plays silky smooth and I’m really glad I’d discovered it
This is awesome thanks as always Kim! Cripes I hate to admit this but I've never played a single game on this list holy cow. Maybe I should get into emulation but I have no experience with that. :
Awesome list, but the first Darkstalkers higher than the second one? That's like saying that plain vanilla Street Fighter II is better than Super Street Fighter II Turbo. Very similar gameplay systems with more characters, improved balance, much better special moves system, much better music... Just weird. Nostalgia was way too strong there! I do agree with placing X-Men CotA above Marvel Super Heroes though! MSH didn't expand the roster enough and removed some stellar CotA characters, so I always considered it a sort of side game instead of a true successor to CotA. But still, amazing list, and I am glad that you're covering the legacy of the amazing CPS systems! Oh, and yes, Jon Talbain is the best Darkstalker... until Jedah, but Jedah came later!
I never thought anyone could make a list of 95% fighting games interesting, but you’ve done it! Any chance you could make a similar countdown for Atari System 1 and 2?
Just call them shooters it makes sense to call them that shame all the fools messed that up callibg every Third person shooter and First person shooter the same name.
There can be only one at the top. Sf2 turbo . Over 20 years of blood , sweat and tears!. And HYPE!!!!. Don’t forget to do cps3 so we can talk about the masterpiece third strike!.
Different country and different arcade cabinet, but I remember a Burger King that had a Simpsons arcade game... that NEVER worked, or was even plugged in. I still go to that BK, but that thing was gone by the time I moved near it. Other than that, I've never really seen a fast food/take out place with arcade games or video games unless they're in a rest stop area.
I was literally gonna ask if you would consider doing videos on some of the Sega arcade boards before the video ended, looking forward to the System 16 video! Maybe consider doing a video on the almighty Sega Model 2 someday?
You can’t rank Alpha 2 below the 1st one which is a rushed and unfinished product. In many ways Alpha 2 is the best game of the 3. It’s a lot less broken than A3 for instance...
I personally greatly enjoyed Super Gem Fighters (aka Pocket Fighters). Incredibly easy to learn, hard to master. I personally hated SSF2T, because of the absurd amount of cheating the computer opponents do. Btw, what's the difference between SSF2T and HSF2?
Feel your pain there Kim re’ SFA2 on the SNES (Unbelievable conversion of a fantastic game btw) as had to sell mine a few years ago, along with the majority of my games collection, following my divorce 🤬. Such a bum. Kept my arcade stuff though CPS2 boards included 🙌. Congratulations on another awesome video!
Oh mate - i feel ya... i had a massive collection mainly sega (all of them) and what not and had to sell it all due to losin my license - as i was a taxi driver....that hurt. Especially when i sold it for cheap. Granted it wasnt mint as well used! But i had rare stuff that i didnt even know was valuable like the demo of keio flying squadron on mega cd (and full game) - all i can say is thank god for emulation. I only have a cheap copy pandoras box 6s and my phone these days....sigh....oh well.
Order Of Magnitude - The Paranormal & Personal Ah mate that sucks. I’d been collecting since the mid 90’s so had amassed a fair bit but needed a quick sale. Kept a few bits (3ds collection, Xbox 360 and thank god my arcade stuff and crt’s) but let the lot go for £20K which to be fair was way less than it was worth and certainly way less than that lot would be worth now even 3 years on. Lesson to be learned = don’t get married!
I prefer the variety CPS1 has over CPS2, which has too many fighting games. I also think the VS games are overrated and OTT, and prefer MSH and COTA, in the same way SFA2 is better than the overly flashy SFA3. I think the move to CPS2 was more to do with the superior copy protection, after SF2 was bootlegged into oblivion.
I've read that CPS2 is not as big an upgrade over CPS1 as is typically assumed and that the main reason for it was anti-piracy measures, as you mention. I basically agree with your opinions. I also like the variety of the CPS1. I didn't like how silly the announcer got in later, flashy Capcom fighting games. I ended up switching to SNK for fighting games, though. KOF is more my style.
I actually like X-Men vs. Street Fighter the best of all of the Capcom crossover fighting "series", just something about it jibes with me. I do love MvC too...though I played it on Dreamcast way more than in arcades. I'd have put Cyberbots a bit higher on the list, personally, as well as Mars Matrix. Also, I thought Progear was CPS3 before this video, but I was wrong.
I kept thinking Capcom vs SNk and Marvel vs. Capcom were CPS2 boards. Oh well. It would be interesting if one day you made a top NeoGeo arcade game list.
BTW you made an error; #5 entry has the wrong game name, and should be either Darkstalkers 3 or Vampire Savior. Vampire Hunter 2 does not include B. B. Hood darkstalkers.fandom.com/wiki/Vampire_Hunter_2
yeah, things got a bit messy around then. You had Vampire Savior, then after that there was Vampire Savoir 2 AND Vampire Hunter 2, which is said to have meant to been a single game, but capacity limits meant it got split into two separate releases. They're all rather similar tho, so it's an easy mistake. Good video overall tho and nice to have commentary and personal insights, it's what sets these top lists aside from many of the others.
@bigevilworldwide1 I don't know about your sources, but considering how Mega Man 11 came from the same place RKOs often do and still ended up doing pretty damn good, maybe you're talking a tad out y'er arse.
@nicholas McColm should have been in this list then really, as it was an official CPS2 release. Know what it is, owned several CPS2 including z2a many times
It’s quite unusual that you put Mars Matrix so low and yet gush about the reflect dynamic for Gigawing. Mars Matrix effectively refined the reflect mechanic by making it more useable than in Gigawing. It definitely plays better for it. It was even made by the same company.
Mars Matrix being so low and Giga Wing being so high is *guaranteed* to upset some folks. :D (I think MM is genius despite it not really even being my thing as far as shooters go) tbf you're not going to please any the hardcore genre-specific crowds with a list like this anyways. Not for fighters, shmups OR brawlers; but that's just how it goes.
You know the CPS2 is one of the best arcade platforms when games like Eco Fighters and Marvel Super Heroes is at the bottom of the list. Capcom really was the king of Arcades.
The CPS1/2/3 and Neo-Geo are forever going to be the platforms that gave me the most enjoyment in the Arcade and now at home.
For me, SFA2 is my favourite of the 3, and is up there with SSF2T and MVC as my top 3 Capcom fighters. I've never been able to quite put my finger on why I like 2 best, just personal preference. Anyway, I've been absolutely loving all these longer compilation videos Kim! Thanks for keeping us entertained on lockdown! Stay safe.
Me too. I prefer it to the complications of SFA3 and it feels more balanced than Alpha.
alpha 2 is preferred competitively by a ton of people, alpha 3's v-ism is pretty broken and turns a lot of people off
I completely understand you too =) Although I'd say that more objectively SFA3 is the better game, SFA2 is the one I've replayed the most. It seems the most balanced of the 3 ^^
@@x.kalibre It definitely "feels" more balanced to me. But I'm far from an expert player, just a lifelong casual fan since SF2.
@@PixelsLtd well, I guess I can call myself that as well. :D Always tried to be the best fighting game player among my friends, but never competed in tournaments or played too much with random people at the arcades. And although I understand fighting game lingo and why some characters are OP and stuff like that, I'm probably not nearly competitive on any modern fighter ^^ But I've played pretty much all of the oldies from Capcom, SNK and other brands. It is my favorite game genre for sure =)
"A-ism, V-ism, and... Jism" 😂
Nice to see Mighty Pang so high up. Love Alien vs Predator, and Cadillacs & Dinosaurs is my favourite arcade beat 'em up too.
Not sure how you could possibly rate the first street fighter alpha over Alpha 2. Even with nostalgia goggles on, Anyone can clearly see Alpha 2 is superior in every way possible.
It's called not knowin'
My top 5 would be:
5 - X-Men vs Street Fighter
4 - Alien vs Predator
3 - Street Fighter Alpha 2
2 - Super Street Fighter II Turbo
1 - Vampire Savior
Cool review! I'd add that there are actually 42 CPS2 games. The 4 you missed were:
- Vampire Savior 1 & 2 (yes, there are 5 unique games in the Vampire/Darkstalkers series)
- Street Fighter Zero 2 Alpha (different from Zero 2 and Alpha 2. Thanks for the wonderfully confusing naming, Capcom!)
- Super Street Fighter 2: Tournament Battle (unique from "New Challengers" in that it supported linking 4 arcade cabinets for a *drum roll* tournament battle).
If you have any questions about CPS2, feel free to reach out. I actually own the complete 42 piece set :)
For anyone who isn't familiar, Vampire 1 & 2 are just Vampire Savior with a few characters removed and the Darkstalkers 2 characters (Donovan, Huitzil/Phobos, Pyron) added back in. And Zero 2 Alpha (also called Alpha 2 Gold in the US) was an attempt to rebalance Alpha 2 for competitive play that didn't really work and never caught on.
@@joshthefunkdoc Vampire Savior 2/Hunter 2 also have some system changes coming from Savior 1 (like a new Dark Force mechanic replacing the original one, air chain combos limited to Dark Force too, it's harder to escape from throws by jumping - and they also made Oboro Bishamon playable and added a "secret character" of sorts called Marionette, although she's just a mirror match mode where you always turn into your opponent), although like Zero 2 Alpha those changes were mostly rejected.
George Kamitani was an artist on Tower of Doom and Shadow Over Mystara. If you liked those games check out Dragon's Crown on the PS3 and PS4 he was the director and an artist and writer on that game as well and it's pretty much the spiritual successor to Capcom's D&D series.
For a while, I thought Capcom's main Competitor was Konami, but later found out that it was SNK all along.
Konami is more like Capcom's equal.
But even they would make a great crossover fighting game together.
I love a bit of Marvel Superheroes.... great memories of University in the mid to late 90s!
My mate and I nearly finished Heroes of the Lance on the ZX Spectrum, but we didn't pick up the Macguffin before running to the right and it told us we lost...
1944 is a great addition to the Final Fight Arcade 1up cabinet. I play mine all the time. It's strange how I think I am bored of it, then I go back all over again. So addictive!
So you're among the few uploaders I've seen who actually *refer* to Cyborg Justice, and for that, I appreciate it. Tons of nostalgia associated with it.
Thanks Kim. I'm finding your videos a real tonic at the moment 🙏
You are wrong about Mega Man Power Battles 1, you can select the stage, it is random select if you don't time the attack button press. When it highlights a stage, press the attack button at the right time. Selecting the stages in order IS essential to getting the highest score.
I practically salivated the entire video - this was handled well, by someone with genuine and sincere love for the arcade.
I actually love playing "Night Warriors: DarkStalkers' Revenge" just a bit more than "Vampire Savior" due to gameplay being much more simpler to pull off special moves while also having quite a bit of nostalgia after playing it on the Sega Saturn. Not only that, but it's also several times superior to its predecessor "DarkStalkers: The Night Warriors", so I'm pretty disappointed that you would only place it as Number 25 on your list.
You know what Capcom game that was good Tech Romancer.
Puzzle Fighter and Pocket Fighter should've been 2-games-in-1 where players selectively compete in them like in the Mario Party franchise.
Dimahoo, Eco Fighters, Ring of Destruction, AvP and the Darkstalkers trilogy were definitely my favorites
The CP-System games are perfect, but the arcade games that Capcom should've never made are the Quiz-games.
• The gameplay itself is just bonus level material.
• They have the lowest-sells outside of Japan and are not included in game collections and Arcade1UP cabinets.
• You never see anyone going to them to do online match-ups on FightCade.
thank you. this does help me through these tough times. i'm an american and british gaming channels have been a big part of keeping me sane these past few weeks (partially because it started from such different places and is fascinating). good luck with your country, ours is having a rough time, and my area is the hot spot right now. hopefully things will level out but they're telling us its a bad idea to even go grocery shopping this week. i may be drinking during this video
hopefully capcom will release more of these in the future whether that be under the capcom arcade stadium, marvel vs street fighter collection, or darkstalkers collection
if only the Capcom Power System Changer wasn't a failure.
Capcom should make a new "Dark Stalkers" game , they abandoned the poor series. Oh well can't wait for SF Alpha 1 and Dark Stalker
On the Sega Genesis/MD coming out
Roval schoolscwas amazing but the bonus disc that came with it was sublime
Wonderful list, Kim! So much nostalgia pouring all over, it was an amazing trip through the catalogue of an arcade board I played a lot of as well =) Of course, I'd place a few games on different places, but it's like you mentioned, in some cases it all boils down to personal preference and experience with the games.
I'd rank SFA2 higher than SFA, simply because it's one of those sequels that did everything right. I had already played and beaten SFA at the arcades (and loved it!), and I was oozing for excitement when I finally got a Saturn, and the first game I bought was SFA2. My expectations for an arcade experience were completely fulfilled, and more so. I can't say for sure that it's better than SFA3, although I do prefer it.
MSHvs.SF was always my favorite of the 3 Vs. games, but my arguments for it are even flimsier than those for SFA2 ^^
Just seeing some of these fighting games on display, especially Super Turbo, gives me the urge to pull up Fightcade and get some rounds in. Thanks for the video and memories Kim.
Awesome video. Have an arcade machine running mame and this got my excited to go check some games. Also, can't wait for you to do a worst to best for Neo Geo MVS!
thanks for the video
Whether it was coincidence or not, loved that it was Rogue's theme during the XvSF segment. One of my fave capcom FG themes ever
Like your review style, made me smile a few times. Some good recommendations for the emulator here.
Very nice to hear your views of the games of the CPS1 and CPS2. They're such good arcade platforms, and I was just doing some reading up on them and playing a bunch of CPS games specifically a few months back. As I mentioned on the last video, I'm a big fan of Dynasty Wars, so that's one I go back to a lot. I also finally played the Mega Man arcade games. CPS2 is interesting because there's so much quality that good games will end up low on any list. I didn't love the direction Capcom took with most of their fighters starting with the CPS2, but they're well made. I became an SNK in those days. So that eliminates a lot of CPS2 games for me, but it's still a great hardware platform. Battle Circuit, Armored Warriors, and Alien vs. Predator are all fantastic beat-em-up games that I love. AVP is interesting because of the large move set and standard, limited projectile weapons. It's fast paced, but more defensive than other games. It leads to amazing scenarios where my character has no energy left, yet its still possible to manage a huge swarm of aliens and survive long enough without taking any hits to reach some food. I've been surprised by some of predicaments I've gotten out of.
I mentioned Mega Man in the CPS1 video. I read about it and it appears that the CPS2 was the lead platform, so I agree with your decision to save it for this one. I believe even the Q-Sound logo was left in the ROM for the CPS1 game. The CPS1 version loses some voice samples, but it mostly the same. While I thought Capcom could be hit or miss with FM synthesis, I like the FM versions of the music in the CPS1 version and it's nice to be able to choose between the two versions of the game. I think the CPS2's PCM sound is great as well.
I had the same experience playing the OG Darkstalkers. I played it at a local pizza hut and I usually mained Frank. The food was probably better than what you had haha
you have the most perfect voice for narrating arcade games..i could listen to it all day...
Can you do a cps3 ranking video?!
I have very fond memories of playing Marvel vs Capcom and Street Fighter Alpha 2 at my local retro game store. After buying a few classic PS1 games, I'd slap in a few quid to play a few rounds of MVC1.
Love this video! Nice work thank you! Just got my cps2 darksoft multi running so this is a great reference
Awesome. Thanks Kim. I have really been looking forward to this follow up👍
Shocking you got rid of SFA2 on Snes, even as a kid when it came out it held its value, I remember even in 1998 unboxed used copies going for £15-£25 and the rare time I saw them in the early 00's it was at least £30 for a unboxed or boxed version. I was desperate for it as a kid as loved SF games and gaming in gernal.
Can't wait for "Ranking the 6 Capcom CPS3 Arcade Games"
Seriously though. What was up with the small CPS3 library?
Excellent video, cant wait for the System 16 one
20:30 "I never used to win too much in Street Fighter. That is when I actually got on and the bigger kids didn't tell me to, quite literally "FUCK OFF" during a match. He he. Good times."
According to a friend that used to work at Capcom Super SF II Turbo was what they intended to release when they released Super. They were running behind and released the Super we got.
I love X-Men CotA kinda hoped they made a sequel instead of just mesh it with Street Fighter and eventually to all other Marvel and Capcom characters.
surprised to see Battle Circuit so low down for you. For mew it's one of the all time best Beat-um-ups. Arguable better then Streets of Rage 2.
I think Battle Circuit's biggest problem is that it was pretty obscure back in the day, so most people don't have the nostalgia for it so it looses a few points. But yeah, it is up there with AvP for me for those sweet combos and special moves
I would still put SOR2 as better, BC is very good though.
However if you liked Battle Circuit, have you played Guardians Denjin Makai 2? it's bloody fantastic.
Yeah I don't understand that at all. Battle Circuit has juggling, combos, powerups, and RPG-like progression that make most beatemups seem downright vanilla. I don't get the point of ranking things mostly by what he happens to have nostalgia for but then adding in things he didn't play till recently, but then he doesn't give a fair shake to things like Battle Circuit and doesn't point out what makes it so different
I am still so mad AVP has never been released. The best 3 player scrolling beat-em-up by far.
Not entirely true. For an individual release on a major home console, mobile app or PC no. But capcom officially sanctioned a "capcom home arcade" with beefy Arcade sticks and buttons to plug and play. It had AVP as one of the gamesWasn't cheap at £179 but not as expensive as some home arcades at £300 either. Bit cheeky as it had "final burn" which is MAME pirate software as the operating system!
On that note a USB playstation or console pad is compatible with windows and Emu Paradise you can download a MAME and AVP ROM!
What struck me about the D&D games is how well they stuck to the lore.
Yeah you can tell that the creators were fans of d&d and wanted the game to be not just fun but also loyal to the source material like the troll boss is weak to acid or fire' the dragon use their fire attack only thrice and spells do nothing on the final boss
Though seeing Sega 16 in a future episode would be great, I would also love to see a ranking of either the Model 2 or Model 3 boards.
man, shinobi 1987 was amazing
Your videos are always welcome, thank you
An amazing arcade era. Great vid Kim
Not going to lie, the Darkstalker series gave me my first, second and third monster husbando.
Rikuo, Jon, and Jedah.
Dimahoo is actually the third in the Mahou Daisakusen series - in fact its called Great Mahou Daisakusen. Also I remembered playing Dimahoo and Progear every Halloween season.
Dimahoo is pretty good, but I think the original Mahou Daisakusen is best. Battle Garegga and Armed Police Batrider are pretty asskicking though.
Thank you for recognising the awesomeness that is Gigawing! It and Progear saw plenty of attention from me in the arcades, but while I thought the theme and audio-visuals were superior, the former had it down for much more satisfying and addictive gameplay.
The placings of the SFA series are kinda inverse for me, though. Sure Alpha 3 is certainly hard to beat in content and gameplay variety, but the first two (even if I think the first one's name describes more a dev stage than a prequel) are just works of art compared to it.
Alpha 3 is the least "Street Fighter"-feeling game in the entire mainline series, so i don't blame you there. A good chunk of its mechanics are more associated with anime fighters anymore, haha
I owe you, Kim. I think I've found the arcade game I played years ago, was really impressed with and never found again. Until now. Maybe. I think. I really can't remember too well! I'll check later...
I couldn’t have said it better myself! Every time I’d drift off and daydream about other titles as I’d be watching this Kim would just lay them right out as if he were reading my mind!!
I didn’t think he’d mention the deluxe ps2 edition of SFII and yet he did hahaha BTW I gotta say Darkstalkers series seems somewhat underrated.. It plays silky smooth and I’m really glad I’d discovered it
This is awesome thanks as always Kim! Cripes I hate to admit this but I've never played a single game on this list holy cow. Maybe I should get into emulation but I have no experience with that. :
Marvel Super Heroes was my personal fave. Spent so much time on that game with its brilliant gem system.
Awesome video
great series so far! Thank you and please keep going
What a great video! Such amazing games. The Marvel/Capcom crossovers will always be my favorites. 🦄🦄🦄
Awesome list, but the first Darkstalkers higher than the second one? That's like saying that plain vanilla Street Fighter II is better than Super Street Fighter II Turbo. Very similar gameplay systems with more characters, improved balance, much better special moves system, much better music... Just weird. Nostalgia was way too strong there! I do agree with placing X-Men CotA above Marvel Super Heroes though! MSH didn't expand the roster enough and removed some stellar CotA characters, so I always considered it a sort of side game instead of a true successor to CotA.
But still, amazing list, and I am glad that you're covering the legacy of the amazing CPS systems! Oh, and yes, Jon Talbain is the best Darkstalker... until Jedah, but Jedah came later!
XMen COTA was amazing in 94. It's still awesome
I never thought anyone could make a list of 95% fighting games interesting, but you’ve done it! Any chance you could make a similar countdown for Atari System 1 and 2?
"Shmups". I don't know why, but that word just grates on me. lol.
I get a similar reaction with "touhous" (bullet hell shooters).
Just call them shooters it makes sense to call them that shame all the fools messed that up callibg every Third person shooter and First person shooter the same name.
Same. Shoot em ups is fine.
I grew up in that era and we always called them "shooters." And that's what I still call them ha.
Loving this series of all these Capcom classics. So many brilliant titles.
YES! One of the best arcade systems ever, gold mine of 2d fighting greatness.
Honestly, for me the best of the bunch was MVC, by far the best looking, most addictive of the bunch. Also loved AVP in the arcade back in the day...
There can be only one at the top. Sf2 turbo . Over 20 years of blood , sweat and tears!. And HYPE!!!!.
Don’t forget to do cps3 so we can talk about the masterpiece third strike!.
Different country and different arcade cabinet, but I remember a Burger King that had a Simpsons arcade game... that NEVER worked, or was even plugged in. I still go to that BK, but that thing was gone by the time I moved near it. Other than that, I've never really seen a fast food/take out place with arcade games or video games unless they're in a rest stop area.
Great vid, lots of good times with the CPS2 arcade titles. Did not see lots of the shmups in my area but AVP is my top pick.
I was literally gonna ask if you would consider doing videos on some of the Sega arcade boards before the video ended, looking forward to the System 16 video! Maybe consider doing a video on the almighty Sega Model 2 someday?
You can’t rank Alpha 2 below the 1st one which is a rushed and unfinished product. In many ways Alpha 2 is the best game of the 3. It’s a lot less broken than A3 for instance...
Such an amazing platform, so many great titles.
I personally greatly enjoyed Super Gem Fighters (aka Pocket Fighters). Incredibly easy to learn, hard to master.
I personally hated SSF2T, because of the absurd amount of cheating the computer opponents do. Btw, what's the difference between SSF2T and HSF2?
I remember playing #30 in a laundry matt when I was really young
They had that game and some kind of shooter maybe the first Contra
Didn't puzzle loop 2 come BEFORE ZUMA
Thanks for the video.
What happened to your live stream of Metroid ?.
Feel your pain there Kim re’ SFA2 on the SNES (Unbelievable conversion of a fantastic game btw) as had to sell mine a few years ago, along with the majority of my games collection, following my divorce 🤬. Such a bum. Kept my arcade stuff though CPS2 boards included 🙌. Congratulations on another awesome video!
Oh mate - i feel ya... i had a massive collection mainly sega (all of them) and what not and had to sell it all due to losin my license - as i was a taxi driver....that hurt. Especially when i sold it for cheap. Granted it wasnt mint as well used! But i had rare stuff that i didnt even know was valuable like the demo of keio flying squadron on mega cd (and full game) - all i can say is thank god for emulation. I only have a cheap copy pandoras box 6s and my phone these days....sigh....oh well.
Order Of Magnitude - The Paranormal & Personal Ah mate that sucks. I’d been collecting since the mid 90’s so had amassed a fair bit but needed a quick sale. Kept a few bits (3ds collection, Xbox 360 and thank god my arcade stuff and crt’s) but let the lot go for £20K which to be fair was way less than it was worth and certainly way less than that lot would be worth now even 3 years on. Lesson to be learned = don’t get married!
Great video. But nobody talks about STRIDER 2 from the arcades. A great game.
I prefer the variety CPS1 has over CPS2, which has too many fighting games. I also think the VS games are overrated and OTT, and prefer MSH and COTA, in the same way SFA2 is better than the overly flashy SFA3.
I think the move to CPS2 was more to do with the superior copy protection, after SF2 was bootlegged into oblivion.
I've read that CPS2 is not as big an upgrade over CPS1 as is typically assumed and that the main reason for it was anti-piracy measures, as you mention. I basically agree with your opinions. I also like the variety of the CPS1. I didn't like how silly the announcer got in later, flashy Capcom fighting games. I ended up switching to SNK for fighting games, though. KOF is more my style.
I really do love Alien vs Predator. That game is so fun. Also, anyone who plays as anyone but the predator has something wrong with them.
Brilliant. A new vid!!!!
I NEARLY bought Street Fighter Alpha 2 for snes when it was released but I opted for Donkey Kong Country 3 instead, they were both £60 at the time
you left out street fighter alpha/zero 2 gold, it has a
additional combo system
Lived sfa3 on ps1. My all time favorite fighter.
I actually like X-Men vs. Street Fighter the best of all of the Capcom crossover fighting "series", just something about it jibes with me. I do love MvC too...though I played it on Dreamcast way more than in arcades. I'd have put Cyberbots a bit higher on the list, personally, as well as Mars Matrix. Also, I thought Progear was CPS3 before this video, but I was wrong.
As someone who likes robots, I like Phobos/Huitzil the most in the Darkstalkers series.
Lol.... ruffled feathers. Thanx kim.
27 is actually a variant of Shisen Sho, which is hugely addictive.
Yep I'm one of those idiots that got rid of all his games over time 🤦🏻♂️
As long as you double down instead of getting sucked into the cycle of paying money to get the same games again.
Buy a rg350.... problem solved..... id wait for the price to go back down tho......
its obvious you played 10 minutes of each game in mame before ranking them.
I kept thinking Capcom vs SNk and Marvel vs. Capcom were CPS2 boards. Oh well.
It would be interesting if one day you made a top NeoGeo arcade game list.
Marvel vs Capcom 1 is a CPS2 game. CvS 1 & 2 and MvC 2 are on the Naomi hardware.
BTW you made an error; #5 entry has the wrong game name, and should be either Darkstalkers 3 or Vampire Savior. Vampire Hunter 2 does not include B. B. Hood
darkstalkers.fandom.com/wiki/Vampire_Hunter_2
The whole Hunter 2/ Savior 2 situation is confusing, so I can hardly blame her
yeah, things got a bit messy around then. You had Vampire Savior, then after that there was Vampire Savoir 2 AND Vampire Hunter 2, which is said to have meant to been a single game, but capacity limits meant it got split into two separate releases. They're all rather similar tho, so it's an easy mistake. Good video overall tho and nice to have commentary and personal insights, it's what sets these top lists aside from many of the others.
Vampire Hunter 2 is more like an updated rerelease of Vampire Hunter using the Vampire Savior engine. IMO, at least.
Do you have your CPS2 boards "phoenixed" or do you keep swapping batteries?
if you go safe and put AA battery (instead of 1/2 AA) they can last 15 years easily. so it's not too bothersome.
I still wonder why Capcom haven't made another Mega Man fighting game featuring all the different Robot Masters. It seems a no-brainer.
@bigevilworldwide1 I don't know about your sources, but considering how Mega Man 11 came from the same place RKOs often do and still ended up doing pretty damn good, maybe you're talking a tad out y'er arse.
Was Zero 2 Alpha on here? Might have missed it while making tea. There were four on the CPS2
@nicholas McColm should have been in this list then really, as it was an official CPS2 release. Know what it is, owned several CPS2 including z2a many times
Where have I heard that intro theme before...?
I think the new challengers is the most balanced of all.
It’s quite unusual that you put Mars Matrix so low and yet gush about the reflect dynamic for Gigawing. Mars Matrix effectively refined the reflect mechanic by making it more useable than in Gigawing. It definitely plays better for it. It was even made by the same company.
XvSF or MvC are my two favorites. And it still bothers me that AvP never got a home release.
Your voice really sounds like the English version of the German scientist, Dr Edward Richtofen in the COD black ops zombies.
You left out vampire savior 1, there was 4 darkstalker games
Mars Matrix being so low and Giga Wing being so high is *guaranteed* to upset some folks. :D
(I think MM is genius despite it not really even being my thing as far as shooters go)
tbf you're not going to please any the hardcore genre-specific crowds with a list like this anyways. Not for fighters, shmups OR brawlers; but that's just how it goes.