Why We Fight | BAND OF BROTHERS | Reaction Episode 9
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"Why We Fight"
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It was really hard for us to find the right words after watching this incredible episode. Hopefully our respect and gratitude comes across. Thank you for suggesting this important series to us. 💕
Loved your reactions, you guys need to watch “the pacific” which focuses on the other front of the war against the Japanese
Thank you both, I feel like part 10 finishes the series perfectly very much looking forward to seeing it.
You're watching it and learning, that's what matters
You guys should check out Requiem for a Soldier by Katherine Jenkins bc it's the theme to this amazing series and it makes the series more impactful due the lyrics to the song.
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Thats a tough one
A lot of the concentration camp victims were portrayed by cancer patients, many of whom did not live to see the release of the episode.
I was wondering how...Jesus. Bless their hearts.
If you look into the behind the scenes, the director of the episode was hesitant to use the patients as extras as he was worried they would pass out from the exhaustion of the scenes, but the camp extras were very proud to be part of the show, displaying the cruelty of the third reich, according to the director not one passed out or ruined a scene. That combined with the actors of the soldiers being purposefully left in the dark about the scenes until the day of made a genuine experience that few can recreate.
i guess thats one way of preserving memory of yourself if you get to be an actor for a historical movie or show. I wouldnt mind being remembered as an actor of a famous show even if i played Concentration camp victim. You could even argue that they did this to show people what facism can lead to so all of it will never happen again.
@@karabenomarThe cancer patients lying down inside the barracks could not get out of the bed. That’s why they they were shown laying down.
Liebgott's words to the prisoners are "It's just for a short time. It's for your own good." And you can see what it's costing him to tell them this. Heartbreaking.
Liebgott is also a Jewish person that is why it hurts his soul
For some the "short time" lasted until 1947 as many were relabled as "Displaced Persons" and had to stay in camps, including a second version of Bergen-Belsen, until they could be returned to their home countries. The last emigrated to the newly created Israel.
and in many cases, like Terezin, it was a lure. There was no end other than death. The difference is at Terezin you got paraded around in front of the red cross and played tennis before they shoved you in oubliettes or shot you against a wall.
The Allied forces quickly found out that giving out food ... would KILL the victims. Their bodies couldn't handle solid foods. A thin soup was best (thin, but still lavish compared to the soup they'd had when the Germans were in charge).
I'm 71. When I was a kid I remember there were still problems with sorting out civilian Germans from the military and co-conspirators. It's thought that only 1/5th of all guilty Germans ever faced any punishment. Maybe less. The civilians knew. They knew. They knew.
thats the bit that gets me every time
If you were wondering how they filmed those camp scenes, the camp was constructed and patients from cancer wards were cast as inmates.
The actors from ‘Easy’ showed up but were kept away from the ‘camp’ set.
The actors’ looks of horror and shock weren’t entirely acting.
The actors were not given advanced copies of the script to learn their lines. The Producers wanted their expressions of shock and dismay to be authentic. They certainly accomplished that.
My late father served in a medical company that followed the 506th. He helped feed & treat several concentration camps prisoners! He said it was a mess, stacks of uncinerated bodies, experimental stations & body parts. My dad had nightmares the rest of his life.
Bless his memory.
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From one Army brat to another, please thank your father for his service. These men who fought at that time helped to turn the tide of world peace and freedom. I don't care what people's political affiliations are, we can't deny that they were the greatest generation to ever live. My father served, and my brother currently serves. I am grateful for my freedoms and for my opportunities afforded me because of the sacrifices made during that time, and the ones continued to be made currently. 🫡
I am not a WWII veteran, but I am a 71 year old veteran of the U.S. Army. As a tribute I have watched Band of Brothers at least once a year, every year, for the last 20 years or so. Over the years, no matter how many times I've watched this episode, I literally break down crying every time I do watch it.
Yes! And thank you for your service.
That train car door opens and I'm done. Every time. Human beings treated like refuse to be disposed of. Maddening.
Donald Burgett’s book Beyond The Rhine describes their entering this camp and what he saw there. He also describes the civilians coming back from the camp to see it for the first time. Two teenage German girls are talking and laughing. Colonel Sink has them stopped and sent back and locked in the camp for the night.
His jump boots and uniform are at the Michigan Heroes museum in Frankenmuth, Michigan.
I'm 20 years younger and never served. But Liebgott having to give them the bad news and breaking down just makes the tears start every time.
This is probably one of the most hard hitting episodes of TV ever produced.
Lip was made an officer: “First Sergeant Lipton - Your honorable discharge as an enlisted man and your battlefield commission to Second Lieutenant...” was the quote from last episode where you heard "honorable discharge"
yep, when you go from enlisted to commissioned officer you got to be discharged first. a paper formality.
@@crossfire1453 Still, it's an understandable thing for civilians and people who aren't from military families to question. This is one of the few pieces of media that actually shows this scenario with that contextual dialogue, but from people I know, they thought any discharge just meant from service overall. Hell, I'm an army brat and I didn't know that 'til I was at least a mid to late teenager. 😅
@@crossfire1453 The army floats along on a vast sea of paperwork. :)
@@Knight-BishopYeah, people seem to struggle with the split between the enlisted men (and women) and officers.
Yep. In the book, they point out that his commission was actually effective the day after his discharge as an enlisted man. So he was technically a civilian during “the last patrol.”
This episode is a masterpiece, no sugar-coat, a punch in the guts as it should be.
This was the episode that did it for me. The whole time when I watched I was wondering if they will brush past it knowing that easy was there. I was so happy that they did the right thing and went there. Very well done episode, guts me every time.
No, it was sugar-coated.
I have posted this before but it fits to put it here.
As a US Navy Hospital Corpsman. My first duty station was Naval Hospital Bethesda in Maryland. I worked Ward 7 West internal medicine. One patient I cared for was a soon to be retired US Navy Captain who had presented to us with end stage throat cancer. He was having difficulty breathing and required a tracheostomy (breathing tube) be placed. Unfortunately they discovered while putting it in the cancer had progressed further than hoped. As a result he lost his voicebox entirely. He could no longer speak. As you would expect this severely depressed him. I walked in and said Good Morning Sir! Being some 40 years younger and an enlisted man, my raising demanded, and military protocl REQUIRED I address him as Sir. He angrily waved at me & wrote on a pad "Don't call me Sir" "I don't deserve it!" At that point I became a little bit Salty. I reminded him of military protocol, Navy Policy and told him my 80 y/o Grandma would come down here and kick my a$$ if I called him anything but SIR. Then I grabbed his arm and pointed at the "Tattoo" a 7 digit serial number burned into his arm by butchers and told him THAT DAMN NUMBER MEANS NO ONE CALLS YOU ANYTHING BUT SIR! EVER! You've paid the price already.
You see on admission we do a head to toe assessment and yes I noticed it then. I also noticed his wife also had one. They were the only ones of their families to survive the war. He from Auschwitz and She was from Bergen Belson. They met after the war, made their way to the US and to thank his new country served nearly 40 years in the Navy. Shortly after this incident, he was fully promoted to Rear Admiral then officially retired. I was a side boy at the ceremony.
Why we fight indeed.
Many thanks for telling the story of that man and his wife!
Thank you for this great story, and I'm very glad that you said what you said to him. My grandfather was part of one of the units to help liberate Bergen-Belsen, so I'm also very happy to hear about that woman meeting that man after the war and the fact that they were able to find happiness together.
When I was stationed in Germany I went to Dachau (Concentration Camp), it was blue sky with wind and birds chirping until you stepped through the gates and into the camp. There was no breeze, no birds, nothing but weird silence and stale air. It was a chilling experience.
Yeah I went too this summer. Eerie, it was beautiful weather. Must’ve been back there too but wee always see it in black and white
Yep visited there myself back in 2003. Same thing then. Only thing I can compare it to is when you go out to the USS Arizona Memorial. Utter silence.
I had the same experience when I visited the camp in 2000. It's like all life has been scared away from that part of the world.
Even the Earth understands the atrocities that went on there, and keeps everything as still as possible in reverence to the those lost in the camps
And to think that there are people today who deny this ever happened as well as those who would like to see a repeat. It's hard to watch but it has to be done to honor the memories of those who were butchered. To forget them would be the ultimate and final indignity and to forget that the evil that caused this is still with us would be the final insult.
Exactly. How anybody can stand with those in the world who spout anti semitism…even in the US. It’s sickening.
“Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses - because somewhere down the track of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened.”
Dwight D. Eisenhower 1945
The human race never learns... and never will.
And in fact there are people who have attempted to carry out a repeat, on Oct 7.
Hitler told Himmler that it was not enough for the Jews simply to die; they must die in agony. What was the best way to prolong their agony? Himmler turned the problem over to his advisers, who concluded that a slow, agonizing death could be brought about by placing Jewish prisoners in freight cars in which the floors were coated with...quicklime...which produced excruciating burns. The advisers estimated that it would take four days for the prisoners to die, and for that whole time the freight cars could be left standing on some forgotten siding.... Finally it was decided that the freight cars should be used in addition to the extermination camps.
----Robert Payne, The Life and Death of Adolf Hitler
By genocide, the murder of hostages, reprisal raids, forced labor, "euthanasia," starvation, exposure, medical experiments, and terror bombing, and in the concentration and death camps, the Nazis murdered from 15,003,000 to 31,595,000 people, most likely 20,946,000 men, women, handicapped, aged, sick, prisoners of war, forced laborers, camp inmates, critics, homosexuals, Jews, Slavs, Serbs, Germans, Czechs, Italians, Poles, French, Ukrainians, and many others. Among them 1,000,000 were children under eighteen years of age.1 And none of these monstrous figures even include civilian and military combat or war-deaths.
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Specifically 6,000,000 Jews.
When the war was clearly lost, Hitler still prioritized trains, trucks, staff, everything needed to keep the concentration camps running.
Nixon was assigned to jump with the 17th Airborne in "Operation Varsity" (as a consultant and obvserver), which was the largest single day airborne operation of the entire war. When they mention Nixon the only person getting 3 separate jump medals, it is a true statement (as far as I know). Operation Varsity was where my Dad crossed the Rhine in a glider in combat. It took place around Wesel, Germany. Thanks to Belgian war re-enactors I've been back to Wesel three times, and twice with my Dad, to see where he landed in the glider. Thank you for helping keep this history alive. It needs to be told so that people do not forget what the Greatest Generation did for us.
A true statement for the 101st yes, some boys from the 82nd had 4 stars from operations Husky (Sicily) Avalanche (Salerno), Overlord (Normandy) and Market Garden (Holland).
There is one exception from the 101st Airborne, Jake "McNasty" McNiece. He would drop for Overlord and Market Garden before going to pathfinder school. After pathfinder school he would drop into Bastogne in order to organize resupply of trapped forces. Later on, he would drop into Germany in order to help organize the resupply of one of Patton's tank forces that had gotten seperated from allied supply lines.
In order for Lipton to be promoted to Lieutenant (which is an officer rank) he had to be discharged as an enlisted solider and then commissioned into an officer.
So instead of a promotion, he got fired and rehired into a new position, kinda?
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Well you can't be "non-commissioned" and "commissioned" at the same time.
Legally you have to be commissioned to give Lawful orders to NCO's (Sargeants) with more time in grade (years of official service) and higher rank.
Field Promotions happened a lot in WW2. It wasn't uncommon. Especially for an enlisted man to be an officer.
You wouldn't see this promotion today. You also wouldn't see Lipton today, stop being a First Sergeant to become a Lt. They function very differently. Lt.'s while are the leaders... they are not who soldiers listened to. Our 1st and 2nd Lt's... didn't offer much to any area they were attached to. But the First Sergeant or Top... would be, as he's the connection between the Captain and the Enlisted.
Omar Bradley went the same path and took it all the way up to the rank of 5-star General and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff during the Korean War.
As time has passed even since the 1990s, based on more studies and accounts given by more elderly Germans before they died, it is more accepted that many of the Germans living by the camps knew what went on there. They may not have known the specific procedures, but knew that lots of people were sent there to be murdered and cremated.
That camp itself didn’t have have crematoria. It was a sub camp of Dachau, which was a concentration camp (actually the first one, established shortly after the Nazis came to power in 1933). The camps that had gas chambers and crematoria were the extermination camps like Auschwitz-Birkenau, Treblinka, Sobibor, etc.
"Those who burn books will in the end burn people" - Heinrich Heine (1797-1856) Great reaction ladies to a very demanding episode.
The modern left is burning books and censoring speech of people they disagree with. That's what all of this cancel culture nonsense is. They're separating people by race in the name of diversity equality and inclusion. Which is basically choosing people by their race instead of their ability which is racism. A lot of the young people today don't realize how close they are to becoming just like the Nazis. All they need to go over the edge is just a little push. Look at the antifa - blm riots that went on all summer and fall of 2020. Those ignorant punks weren't much different than the Nazi brown shirts that were rioting and attacking people in the streets of Germany in the 1930's. They started rioting in the streets of Germany but they ended with a war of annihilation and the mass murder of millions of people. And because of the propaganda fed to them by their media and education system they did it believing their cause was just and they were doing the right thing. If we're not careful we will head down a similar path. The "tolerant left" is now threatening and attacking Jewish students on college campuses. They'll say they're anti Nazis but they'll be doing almost the exact same things the nazis did only under a different name.
“Those that can make others believe absurdities can make others commit atrocities.” Voltaire
2024 American (Trumpers): “These books make children gay and should be banned from libraries.”
The burning begins when (if?) the Cheeto Chief gets re-elected.
What books were they burning again?
@@BlindingGlow The Nazis? Well, pretty much anything written by Jewish authors….. a few authors whose names sounded Jewish. Some copies of Einstein’s work. I’d imagine every copy of the Communist Manifesto they could lay their hands on.
Now, I’m not sure what the policy was on Torahs. I mean, it’s the Jewish Bible but it’s still the Bible. I’m pretty sure I’ve seen footage of Torah scrolls being burnt, I’d assume during Kristallnacht.
Now, it’s documented that the Nazis burned numerous works of modern art paintings from the Louvre. A painting’s not a book but works by Klimt and other modern artists were burned. The works they liked, they stole.
Now, books and scientific papers can be recovered and other paintings can be done but it seems rather arbitrary to fault the Nazis for burning books, which they were quite happy to rather thoroughly document and held those images up as examples of desired behavior for the rest of the nation.
You’d agree that the Nazis did or planned to burn everything they’d ever held to oncoming armies.
You’re familiar with Hitler’s ‘Nero Directive,’ issued late in the war instructing all Wehrmacht and Civil authorities to do all they could to ensure the Allies advanced over a terrain in which no two bricks were cemented together. In other words, “Don’t stop with books….. burn EVERYTHING!”
So, I guess, ultimately, the answer to your question is, “All of them.”
My maternal grandmother was Austrian--her Jewish family were all extremely patriotic. They were educated, cultured, and contributed more than their share. She spoke 5 languages, but her home language was German. Her uncle was a highly decorated officer in WWI. None of any of that mattered when they were all murdered in 1942 and thrown into a mass grave. (She was already living in New York by then). Basically 1/4 of my relatives disappeared.
❤❤❤❤❤✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡ Long live the jewish people
And i'm very sorry for you lost
It breaks my heart 💔
My they rest in peace, and their deaths never be forgotten. Shalom.
Donald Burgett’s book Beyond The Rhine describes their entering this camp and what he saw there. He also describes the civilians coming back from the camp to see it for the first time. Two teenage German girls are talking and laughing. Colonel Sink has them stopped and sent back and locked in the camp for the night.
His jump boots and uniform are at the Michigan Heroes museum in Frankenmuth, Michigan.
This is the hardest episode, but also the most important I think.
EVERY school student should have to watch this - and maybe then they'll have second thoughtsc about calling Hamas and Hezbollah terrorists "heroes'.
@brucelamberton8819 while I was in school they took us to the Holocaust museum in Washington DC. While I was in the Army our 1SG took us there too.
Agreed, schools should teach the good and bad parts of history to ensure we never get the monsters that cause these atrocities, they currently try to protect kids from the hard lessons that really need to be taught.
My Uncle Bill Lorenz was killed in Germany, 22 days before the surrender.
Please say his name out loud.
My Grandparents never really recovered.
@@DakkaDakka12 Exactly. It shocks me how bad the education is now. It enrages me when young adults don't know. Even when I went to school, it wasn't really in the curriculum to teach this. I luckily had teachers that went out of their way to teach us the details, read Maus (comic novel based on the true story of a Jewish survivor), and show us footage. The images were horrifying, much worse than what is depicted in BoB. These people were walking skeletons.
My uncle died fighting in WW2 in Europe, my father was wounded in Korea, my great uncle died fighting in WWI, and my cousin was wounded in Vietnam. One of my best friends was a Brit who moved to the US after the war. Mike served in a British tank company during WW2 and saw action from Africa, through Normandy, and liberated the the Bergen-Belsen concentration camp. Mike never talked about his service with the exception of sharing the liberation of Bergen-Belsen - he said he talked about it as it was important that people know the truth and that it should never be forgotten. I miss Mike, my father, and all those men. The sad truth is that governments murdered more than a 100 million of their own citizens in the twentieth century. And it has not stopped, it continues to this day in Africa, the middle east, and China. It gives me some hope that there are young people such as yourselves who care enough to watch, share, and honor the history of these men. God Bless.
Demons walk among us in Africa, Mexico (cartels), Russia, China, and Palestine/Israel and in the forgotten corners of the world.
"The Short Life of Sophie Scholl" a movie about her & the White Rose group of Germans that opposed the Nazis. In German but a worthy watch
Most definitely.
Anything about Dietrich Bonhoeffer too. Lutheran Pastor.
They song they were singing is "Blood Upon the Risers" it's still sung by paratroopers today, you can find a lot of versions of it on RUclips.
My great-grandparents lived through brutal hardships or poverty and hunger after WW I and voted for the guy who promised them easy solutions. They believed him when he put the blame on minorities and the opposing political parties. Before long, a veritable cult of personality developed around their leader and his word became law, when he dismantled the separation of power in the government. That's how all this became possible. People should learn from that history and check if maybe their own country shows similar signs, BEFORE it is too late.
You say that a lot of Germans didn't know, but I have to say, labor camps like this one (and to be clear, this was 'just' a labor camp, it wasn't an extermination camp) dotted Germany. As Webb said "You never smelled the stench?". Germans knew. They might have averted their eyes, but they knew. And to the German nations credit, since then they've made sure that they'll never forget it.
Viele haben auch geschwiegen, aus Angst, selber dort zu landen. GottseiDank wurden die NAZIS, die SS besiegt
To be fair to the people if you spoke up against these type of camps you could've ended up in one of them yourself.
Like the americans in Abu Graib knew but did nothing, i am in no way whatsoever accepting it, but it is unfortunately human nature...and has been seen to different degrees in every war fought for the last 5000 years......just as the destruction and plunder is "natural".... humans are a horrible species....
@@joemckim1183 No you would not.... germans were not put in camps with the jews... they were sent to penal battallions on the eastern front.....
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First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me
- Martin Niemöller
Imagine seeing all of the horrors of War that these people have witnessed...Then being speechless seeing this. "Why We Fight" is a nod to the epic Frank Capra WW2 series that was being shown during the War back home. I really believe Spielberg intentionally has the Nazi woman in the vivid red coat as a direct reference and connection to the little Jewish girl in Schindler's List. I don't think there are coincidences in his films...The actors weren't even allowed to see the set until the day of shooting, they wanted to get a genuine reaction from them. While the prisoners were some actual cancer patients who wanted to be a part of this. What shocks me is how surprised most people are reacting to this, having no idea what they were about to see...I think we get so immersed in the characters and immediacy we lose track of the big picture and tragedy. Never forget.
The cancer patients really performed above and beyond reacting the way the real survivors of the SHOAH would have.
Tom Hanks Alert 11:00 🚨
I'm sure it's been suggested but please watch the doc. "We Stand Together Alone" when you're finished with the serials. It is comprised of the interviews with the men and a little more history of the Co.
"Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses -because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened."
-Dwight D. Eisenhower
I'm sure you've heard about the female SS guards that were assigned to the Nazi concentration camps? Perhaps the most infamous of them in my opinion was Irma Grese, 'The Hyena of Auschwitz'. She earned that nickname due to the high pitched laughter she exerted, whenever she set her pet guard dog loose upon the prisoners to satiate her warped sense of amusement. Irma wasn't considered academically gifted (but her savagery made up for her lack of intellect), plus she joined the Nazi Party mainly to spite her father.
She was captured along with the rest of her SchutzStaffel comrades at the Bergen Belsen concentration camp by British troops. She was subsequently sentenced to death by hanging along with her compatriots. Apparently her last words to her executioner were... "Get on with it."
I hope the last thing she heard was him saying "Gladly"
The executioner was Albert Pierrepoint; he was far too professional to say that. But he may have thought it.
I’ve seen a documentary that centers on a small photo album made by camp guards. The show placed them in conjunction with a photo or two of the sidings.
They were able to determine that a collection of smiling, lederhosened and drindled men and women having a lazy picnic on a beautiful, sunny day in as taken, from memory, within two days of the siding photos.
Obviously driving home the dual realities of the guards, inmates and victims.
I think all the guards were identified and there were some real beauts in that bunch, so far as mindless cruelty went.
And to put things in perspective for you two, when Irma was executed she was 22. Dick Winters, at this point, was 26.
@brown9402 Irma wasn't academically gifted either, plus her father despised her for affiliating herself with the Nazi Party.
As a combat vet and talking to other vets someone will say ( we know what others don't ) now you know.
It's almost over . Hang in there and God bless you both.
When they started finding the camps, Gen Eisenhower ordered documentation/pictures/film be made of this, because he knew decades later some people would be denying this even happened. You were exactly right when you said 'This is why we fight' - it's important to stand up to evil like this. Thanks for your very honest reaction to this episode, the most difficult of the series.
Regarding Lipton’s “discharge”… remember, at the end of Episode 7, Speirs said he was going to promoted to 2nd Lieutenant via a battlefield commission. The proper procedure for that to happen is first the enlisted soldier in question (Lipton in this case) must be formally discharged as an enlisted man. Then, and only then, can he be formally sworn in as a commissioned officer. That’s why Lipton was “discharged”. It was merely to clear the way for him to be sworn in as a Lieutenant.
You both have done a wonderful job reacting with your hearts and respect. That is a tough episode. Thank you for sharing your reaction.
There is a documentary I watched called "Night will Fall," it has official footage taken by British cameramen with those that discovered these camps for the first time. It is incredibly harrowing but was so important for me to watch as a young man. This episode is incredibly powerful and I think did an excellent job in portraying the despair felt by all in those moments. The documentary I mentioned is highly recommended to watch, it won't be pleasant but it's something I deem as a necessary truth.
highly recommend the movie "Conspiracy", also an HBO movie from around 2001. It's a dramatization of the Nazi planning conference at Wansee in 1942. "a horror movie masquerading as a business meeting."
Lipton was "discharged" as an enlisted man and then "recharged" as a lieutenant. It's just a formality as part of the process of getting promoted into an officer from an NCO's (non-comissioned officer) position.
I think the word is "commissioned", not "recharged".
The execution of the German prisoners were by soldiers wearing French helmets. The French had a particular hatred of the Germans.
The photograph of the German officer had a black ribbon on the upper left of the frame, meaning he was dead.
If you look closely,the French soldier who fired the shot was Tom Hanks.
@@jeffbeaver4419 I went to that scene and paused it. Damn, if it ain't so. It was Tom Hanks.
Don't worry, enough of us still hate the french for their hatred lol
I can so relate to you two. I also get so emotional about this series, and the quality of it still stands to this day ♥
At 15:22 the guy is saying (in Serbian) 'He is still alive - please help him'
Wasn't that in Polish?
@@-Knife- I thought Serbian, but there is a lot of similarity so you may be correct. My mother was Czech & she could understand Serbian, Polish, Croatian, etc. The various languages are sometimes more like dialects.
@@-Knife- LM Reactions watched this series. They're two Serbian girls. When they saw that part they both broke down and said "he's speaking our language"
@@davebcf1231 Was just going to mention LM; I'd had no idea before seeing their reaction..
@@Knight-Bishop Yeah, I didn't know until their reaction either. I'm not at all familiar with any Eastern European languages so I assumed it was Polish too.
I hope you react to the unofficial 11 episode "We stand alone". Documentary of Easy Company.
Ten years ago, I had no idea about how that could happen. Today, not so much
Im from Germany and saw this series at the beginning of our history lessons 16 years ago covering the crimes of the Nazi regime. It was devastating.
The remembrance is much more important than ever before. Thats why i will never tolerate anyone talking those events down and why i go demonstrating against radical far right in our country. We have the duty to never let the world forget. "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it"
Sadly other nations dont take such a great effort in teaching about their dark parts of history.
Congrats, you are the first reactor I've seen to figure out that lady is the one that warned them. She was married to a high ranking officer who lived near that camp, like the commandant would.
Not necessarily. The camps were run by the SS. The officer in the photograph, who had been killed (black ribbon on the frame) was wearing a Wehrmacht (regular German army) uniform. As to whether the towns people knew, most of them probably knew there was some kind of camp out there, but also knew to stay away from it for their own safety. It's dangerous to know too much in totalitarian regimes. Others who delivered supplies, dated camp guards, etc, probably knew more.
The black ribbon on his picture frame means he had died, most likely in combat, which would have been elsewhere.
Exactly. My take on that interaction is that when they first meet, she looks on Nixon with an air of superiority, pride, and judgement while Nixon is at a low point of ransacking her home for alcohol. When they next meet, Nixon is now literally standing above her, looking down on her in judgment. She can't meet his stare for long and is the first to look away in shame. I think it is a pretty powerful moment.
@@fredkruse9444If I had to guess, probably on the Eastern Front just due to the sheer number of soldiers Germany had there.
Without getting too off topic this episode is very relevant in the current moment.
Incredible reaction from you too, felt it hard.
"How were the Germans convinced to do this?"
Me: vaguely waves at CPAC and MAGA
@@17thknight I was thinking more of Gaza but yeah, that too. Hand in hand off the deep end they go.
@@Phantomgreen29. You’re insane.
@@MetalDetroit Hate to break it to you but no, I'm not. Not going to get into a giant discussion here on the intricacies because these girls don't deserve it on their react channel but I'll say this and then I'm done:
MAGA: Right wing, Authoritarian, Ethno Nationalist, Theocratic: Bad
Zionist Israel: Right wing, Authoritarian, Ethno Nationalist, Theocratic: Good, somehow?
Something isn't adding up here, or maybe it is. All those political donations and endless guilt tripping. Get rid of MAGA and get rid of Zionism and this world looks drastically different and infinitely better. Not perfect but a damn good start.
Both nations are being polluted by madmen. Both factions are an evil separate from the nation they're a part of.
Have a great evening. No more responses from me on this subject.
Great comment and it's why shows like BoB are so critical and should be watched. The standard playbook for those that crave power is to demonise some other group and lay the blame for all life's troubles on them. Nothing galvanises a group quicker than a perceived injustice and an enemy to blame it on.
You can see this same pattern played out throughout history, from well before WW2 through to the modern day. Cambodia, Rwanda, Bosnia, Afghanistan and most horrifyingly, in a lot of Western politics throughout the world where politicians are more about acquiring power to impose their will rather than those that are looking to improve the lives of the citizens they are meant to represent.
When considering the leaders you choose to follow in life, look for those that seek to build consensus and make improvements, not those that simply seek to blame others and cloak themselves in personal glory.
Ahem, enough proselytizing from me. Excellent reaction from Haylo and Kiss, thanks for enduring this and giving it the attention and respect it deserves.
I went to one of those camps. It is oddly soundless, no birds, bugs, nothing. Not even the wind makes a sound in the trees. It is perfect stillness, very eerie, the coworker with me noticed it before I did.
I really love the interaction scene with Perconte and O'Keefe. As a Vet myself I think it does a great job showing both sides of the argument without saying either man is right or wrong. O'Keefe wants to do his duty, he wants to do what he trained and suffered for, and most of all wants to feel like and know he contributed to the war and Allied victory. I saw a bit of action but nothing like what the guys before me did in the earlier years of the war so I understand his feelings. Surrounded by all these guys that endured and fought through the worst of it; Normandy, Holland, The Ardennes. It's very easy to feel like you didn't do anything at all if you weren't in the big stuff.
But I also get where Perconte comes from. He *has* seen the worst of it. Seen his friends and comrades shot and mangled by explosions, endured hardships of awful weather and minimal food. Hell he's been shot too. To him someone openly wanting to experience that probably seems naive and stupid at best and outright offensive at worst. It's a short scene but I absolutely love it.
Don’t worry Haylo and Kiss you have 75k of us right there with you. Keep up the good work.
When we talk about what the ordinary Germans did or didn't know about the Holocaust, one thing we rarely hear mentioned is tha fact that the Nazis had been making anti-Semitism a cornerstone of their whole political program for well over ten years, back to at least the early 1930s. So even if they didn't all specifically know about the mass death camps, they'd have had to be living under a rock for that long not to know that their government, which remember was voted into office at one point, was built on really intense hatred for Jews. So it can't have come as much of a surprise even to most ordinary Germans.
36% voted them, 64% did not. After they became one of the strongest parties in the parlament, they systematicaly took out the other parties. The Situation in the Weimar Republic was not comparable with anything we know today - it was a political civil war. To just say "the germans voted them" is a complete simplification. Also anti-semitism was everywhere in western society, all over europe and north america - jews were a hated minority since the dark ages.
@@SovermanandVioboy These are valid clarifications. But I think it's still true that there's culpability of a kind still there, even for Germans who didn't know about the camps. Not an equal or total culpability, but a connection that couldn't he dismissed by simply saying, "We didn't know." And the same can be said of the rest of the Western world really, since as you point out, anti-Semitism was everywhere.
I’ve been anticipating your reaction to this particular episode. It’s so hard to watch and even harder to fathom the reality of the darkest aspect of WWII. Regardless of religion, background or politics, the Allied Powers were truly bringing peace and justice to the world against the face of true evil. This episode is a reminder of that reality.
It wasn't just the Germans. The Japanese were just as bad in their own way. The Rape of Nanking is infamous if less known thas Auschwitz, and the medical experiments the Japs performed were horrendous.
I will say, as a Trauma-Informed therapist, that I can not watch this series and especially this episode without experiencing many of the emotions and reactions that you both have shared. One thing that this series achieves (among many accomplishments) is being able to present the atrocities of war in such a way that one cannot help but be moved. Thank you for continuing to react to this series, because it definitely is not easy to watch Easy Company.
Whenever I feel like this is too much, I remind myself people actually lived through this. If they can experience it and continue living with the memory, surely i can handle watching from the comfort of wherever i am
@@lizgreer6888 Yep. We have a DUTY to watch it... to learn about what these people were subjected to and how bad it was. This series, and this episode in particular, should be required viewing for American high school students.
I have watched dozens of reactions to this series and specifically this episode. This series, along with the Pacific and Saving Private Ryan, formulate some of my favourite media ever produced (I highly recommend the two of you watch/react to the latter if you haven't already). Hands down the most genuine, authentic and unfabricated reaction I have witnessed.
The Western Allies in particular were very intentional to take pictures of, and record the Concentration Camps precisely because they knew that without documentation the world may not believe that it actually happened or would be quick to forget. They also knew that the Nazis would simply play dumb or claim that the Western Allies were exaggerating to try and give them harsher prison sentences after the war was over and they were put on trial for war crimes. It's a good thing they did because Holocaust Denial is an increasingly common practice is some areas of the world that are particularly rife with Antisemitism.
During my R&R from deployment to Bosnia, a few of us went to see Europe and visited a few WW2 sites, we also saw a few of the camps. The one thing I'll always remember is the guide telling us to listen, and all we heard was silence. He said that even after nearly 70 years no birds, squirrels, or any mammalian life comes into the camp. The smell the death is ever present. That really stuck with me, that even though the war is long over, and nature has take over the surrounding locations, animals still will not enter. And even though we weren't told this at the other camps we visited, they all had the same silence.
At 19:31 when he’s telling the prisoners that they must remain in the camp, part of it was, “this is for only a short time”, you can see that they don’t believe that part one bit. 😢
(In the opening monolog from the easy company guy, when the soldier was saying the germans and he might have been good friends) i served in the us army from 2004-2012. My best friend was a german immigrate who joind the us army around the same time. We were roommates, partied together, deployed together, litterally my best friend. Long story short. His grandfather was on omaha beach on d-day, and so was my great uncle. Obviously on opposite sides. But 65 years later their relatives were best friends. Its crazy
Friendships and alliances are rarely as rock-solid as we might wish - but in the fullness of time, thankfully, that goes for enmities as well. 😉
You can see Nixons face expression when he sees the camp how he realizes his problems are nothing against theirs😢
Thank you so much for watching this series - it is absolutely critical that we never forget what we have GIVEN - Earned by the blood of others!!! It is great to see two young ladies appreciating these historical men and facts. Try Saving Private Ryan - it is excellent!
Ladies. The German people of this town and other's, knew about these camps. It was in their own backyard. I will never believe anything different. Turning a blind eye makes them just as guilty.
Well done.
Mozart was Austrian as was Hitler, Mozart was the favored composer of the Reich. Beethoven was German making the playing of Beethoven a form of protest.
Yes, Germans identified with the German Beethoven.
Mozart was Austrian, yes, but he spent lots of his time in France & Italy and wasn’t seen as Germanic in any way (as Austrians often are as they speak German, primarily).
This episode si of the utmost importance to remind me of what humans are capable. This needs to be remembered and used to help us to keep from ever allowing this to happen agian.
This is why we fight! They are called greatest generation for a reason. Let’s not forget them.
I've seen a lot of rough, ROUGH scenes in film and television before, but the entire camp scene, especially the railcar spot, still shake me.
When y'all said you have the tissues and said you will cry in this episode, I thought, poor girls have no idea yet. Such a powerful and moving episode.
You might not be reading comments for this any longer, but if you are, I'd like to tell you about something from my personal experience. In 1965, I was an American soldier stationed in Germany. I regularly worked with a German national who had been drafted during World War II. He mentioned that he was a country boy, and really knew very little about the camps. He was aware that they existed, but thought of them as open air prisons for criminals. As he learned more about them, he really became confused as to what was the right thing to do. His country was fighting for its survival, but he also felt that it was "wrong". He admitted that after more than twenty years, he still didn't know, "When do you help overthrow your own government?"
My Grandfather was in the army during WWII and guarded photographers who documented the atrocities in several of the larger concentration camps. He never really talked about it until he was interviewed by the Simon Wiesenthal center to forever document the memories of what he saw. This is critical because the surest way to repeat history is to let it slip from memory. We simply can't let something like this happen again. This happened...and there are people all over the world that deny it. That downplay it, or excuse it. That's just as disgusting to me as the actual holocaust. It's callously victimizing the families, friends, and loved ones of MILLIONS of people who died. Kudos to you both I know this was tough to watch. I love your reactions and look forward to seeing more of them.
My brother just retired from the army as a 1st Sargent. He did 5 tours 4 of which he saw combat. I'm proud as hell of him and so glad he came home all 5 deployments. 1st SGT Moon, thanks for your service.
I love your empathy! We all need to know history!
Discovered the other day there are actual lyrics to the theme music with preformances on youtube.
Thanks to you girls for your reactions throught all the BOB serie. You two are genuine good people with such a big ❤. Wish you all the best.
As a 67 year old former firefighter paramedic who has seen a lot of death and destruction over the last 45 years, I can't watch this episode without crying and I've seen it many times. It was so powerfully made.
Your tears are beautiful.
Thank you for honoring these people from your heart. :)
The reactions were genuine. The director wanted to make this episode as real as possible, so they kept the cast away from the set. The first time they saw the set was when they shot the episode. With the exception of a few main characters, no one knew what they were walking into and much of the dialog was ad-libbed.
Agreed, Haylo. Very hard to watch. But something each of us must never forget.
Did anyone notice when O'Keefe was sitting down in a burnt hut, there was a dead burnt body on the ground.
Most, if not all, of the German civilians living near the camps knew very well what was going on inside of them. But those who might be opposed to it, had no ability to stop it or slow it down without themselves becoming victims of the Reich.
The music was by the late, great Michael Kamen. Back in 1992 he won every award in the world and made squillions of dollars by cowriting the Bryan Adams song 'Everything I do, I Do It For You' from the ROBIN HOOD: PRINCE OF THIEVES soundtrack.
At the time it was the biggest single in history, or damn near close to it.
Arguably his other most famous achievement was to do the music for Metallica's S&M concert with the San Francisco Symphony. Kamen wrote the orchestral arrangements and conducted the show.
The actors weren't shown the camp before the scene was filmed. They wanted their reactions to be genuine to seeing the camp for the first time.
The Germans knew. They absolutely knew. They knew and turned a blind eye.
He wasn't just trying to be nice. He was hoping for extreme woo-age.
In other words, he was more randy than a goat.
Lipton was discharged as an enlisted man, and re-enlisted as a commissioned officer. It was part of his battlefield commission.
The Germans who opposed Hitler from the beginning were among the first in the camps.
I can not express how impressed I am with your reactions to this series and this episode especially. I served in West Germany in 1972 and had the opportunity to go to the 1972 Olympics in Munch Germany . While there I visited " Dachau : the very first Camp the Nazis had and I will tell you even in 1972 the " EVIL " was palpable . You called it right Pure Evil .
This is a rough one to watch. So glad you watched though. As horrific as it is, everybody needs to know what happened.
Technically there are two more episodes , The next one that wraps up the show then there's a little documentary of just the veterans talking titled. ( We stand alone together )
I don't want to stir controversy, but I think it's important to talk about this: while rank-and-file soldiers didn't really know the extent of the Nazi atrocities until seeing the camps, the Allies' upper echelons knew. There are unsealed documents that show they knew. And there were media reports (like the one Tom Hardy reads on the transport) years before the camp liberations.
Plus, y'know, Hitler was not exactly SHY about saying what he wanted to do to Jews.
It is vitally important that we remember that people knew, and they did nothing until they were forced into a situation where they had to respond.
It would be much better, in the first place, to never allow such things to happen. That is why we MUST remember the atrocities, and our collective lack of action, until it was too late to save millions.
What, exactly, were "they" supposed to do? Wave a magic wand and make the Nazis disappear?? Keep in mind, a large percentage of the American population were against joining any war in Europe, due to the devastating memories of WWI.
Saying "they" knew and did nothing is a really stupid take.
@@j_karma Accepting Jewish refugees would have been a good start. Openly condemning the antisemitic rhetoric spewing out of Germany. Sanctioning and blocking trade.
There are a large range of actions they could have done. Pretending there is nothing to stop genocide before it happens is the actual stupid take.
They knew. The entire town KNEW.
Lipton was discharged as a non commissioned officer(first seargent) to 1st Lieutenant. A commissioned officer.
the next episode is MUCH easier girls, but do yourselves a favor and do not forget to watch what is after episode 10 it is called "We stand alone together" the men of easy company, trust me you WILL want to watch this.
Great reaction, gals. This, for most people, is the hardest episode to watch. The word to describe that level of evil has not been invented yet.
One more to go! Keep the tissues handy. If the music doesn't get you, the ending will. Until next time. CURRAHEE !!
Yep. This one is the tough one. It gradually gets worse after episode 4, with 9 capping it all off. At least 10 has a bit of a reprieve.
I love how you guys have two different responses, i'm like your sis, i watch this and get seriously pissed ppl would do that to children and women.
He was just a rookie trooper and he surely shook with fright
He checked all his equipment and made sure his pack was tight
He had to sit and listen to those awful engines roar
"You ain't gonna jump no more!"
Gory, gory, what a hell of a way to die
Gory, gory, what a hell of a way to die
Gory, gory, what a hell of a way to die
He ain't gonna jump no more
"Is everybody happy?" cried the Sergeant looking up
Our Hero feebly answered "Yes, " and then they stood him up
He jumped into the icy blast, his static line unhooked
And he ain't gonna jump no more
Glory, glory, what a hell of a way to die
Glory, glory, what a hell of a way to die
Glory, glory, what a hell of a way to die
He ain't gonna jump no more
He counted long, he counted loud, he waited for the shock
He felt the wind, he felt the cold, he felt the awful drop
The silk from his reserves spilled out, and wrapped around his legs
And he ain't gonna jump no more
Glory, glory, what a hell of a way to die
Glory, glory, what a hell of a way to die
Glory, glory, what a hell of a way to die
He ain't gonna jump no more
The risers swung around his neck, connectors cracked his dome
Suspension lines were tied in knots around his skinny bones
The canopy became his shroud, he hurtled to the ground
And he ain't gonna jump no more
Glory, glory, what a hell of a way to die
Glory, glory, what a hell of a way to die
Glory, glory, what a hell of a way to die
He ain't gonna jump no more
The days he'd lived and loved and laughed kept running through his mind
He thought about the girl back home, the one he'd left behind
He thought about the medic corps, and wondered what they'd find
And he ain't gonna jump no more
Glory, glory, what a hell of a way to die
Glory, glory, what a hell of a way to die
Glory, glory, what a hell of a way to die
He ain't gonna jump no more
The ambulance was on the spot, the jeeps were running wild
The medics jumped and screamed with glee, they rolled their sleeves and smiled
For it had been a week or more since last a 'Chute had failed
And he ain't gonna jump no more
Glory, glory, what a hell of a way to die
Glory, glory, what a hell of a way to die
Glory, glory, what a hell of a way to die
He ain't gonna jump no more
He hit the ground, the sound was "SPLAT", his blood went spurting high
His comrades, they were heard to say "A hell of a way to die!"
He lay there, rolling 'round in the welter of his gore
And he ain't gonna jump no more
Glory, glory, what a hell of a way to die
Glory, glory, what a hell of a way to die
Glory, glory, what a hell of a way to die
He ain't gonna jump no more
There was blood upon the risers, there were brains upon the chute
Intestines were a-dangling from his paratroopers suit
He was a mess, they picked him up, and poured him from his boots
And he ain't gonna jump no more
Gory, gory, what a hell of a way to die
Gory, gory, what a hell of a way to die
Gory, gory, what a hell of a way to die
He ain't gonna jump no more
Thank you, Ladies. From an OEF vet, these men have been my hero’s all my life. They truly are/were the best of us. Your reverence and respect warms my grizzled heart. 🫡
The holocaust was not really hidden. The German attitude overall was not one where they didn't know, it was one of "not wanting to know." There was enough people employed in it, enough soldiers that were diverted at times into participation in occupied territories, and enough people working around it that Germans just ignored it, didn't want to know the specifics. The bigger problem came after the war when the population just didn't care so much because they themselves faced starvation, disease, etc because of the conditions the war caused. The woman married to the main architect of the holocaust, Reinhard Heydrich (who would be assasinated in Prague during the war), years after the war took the German government to court to get a widows pension...and won. While Germans faced national shame it would take a few generations to pass before Germans themselves would see the horrible crimes for what they were, until then, most of those involved escaped any real punishment. Many who were sentenced to lengthy prison terms walked after only a few years, former nazi's were judges in trials, etc. Germany also had a problem as they were tasked with trying former nazi's but since there were no laws against state sponsered killings, or "crimes against humanity" at the time the crimes occurred, they found they could not convict people of things that were only made crimes afterwards. This is why so many escaped justice...
Of course they knew. It's a village close to the camp. I'm sure they gave services to the guards and such. Also you can smell, see ashes etc.
Lipton got his discharge as an enlisted man. So he could be inducted as an officer. It's procedural.
kinda feel sorry for the sweet girls…
Ditto
I feel sorry for 6 million Jews and 6 million others who were liquidated by the Nazis.
I’m not sure if you ladies are readers but one of the absolute BEST books to read to answer your VERY important question: “How could people not so very different from us do what they did to other people not so different from us?” Is Timothy Snyder’s ‘Black Earth.’
During World War 1 and 2, American troops were able to take anything they wanted on enemy territory and mail it home if they were able. After WW2, that kind of looting became illegal. When I was younger (40 years ago) lots of veterans were still in occupations like plumber or electrician. From those guys, I learned that infantrymen just didn't want to carry any stuff they didn't absolutely have to carry. One guy said, 'we passed stacks and stacks of German rifles, but nobody could carry that around just to have a souvenir.'
I was stationed in Germany from 1979 to 1982 with the Army. I went to the camp at Dachau outside Munich a couple times. Truly a sobering place. Hard to associate that place with a lot of Germans I knew at the time. A lot of the Germans before the war were indoctrinated to hate the Jews and others. Doesn't excuse anything, just part of the cause. If you get a chance you should go. It's a wonderful country and full of a lot of history. They have also left certain buildings and areas with damage from the war so it constantly reminds people.
Hi. Greetings from Finland. I just recently found your channel and I have been watching your Chernobyl and BoB videos because I love both of these shows. I just wanted to say that you both seem really lovely, empathetic and sweet and this world needs more people like you. I have really enjoyed your reactions and I have to say you both are so pretty.
Someone may have mentioned this already, and I'm not positive about this myself, so unless someone else confirms this, take it with a grain of salt. Supposedly, Speirs wasn't just being a pirate with all of his "trophies"... Sure, still kinda was, but. Apparently he'd gotten involved with a war widow, and without getting too deep into it, there ended up being a kid involved (can't remember the specifics if it was his, or hers from prior), and then her husband turned out to have actually survived... So supposedly, this was him trying to toss some money to them. That's why he's being so threatening about this stuff being sent "back home".
the vast majority of Germans knew the truth. they may not have known the extent. but they knew about the persecution of jews, romani, homosexuals, socialists, democrats and anyone else that the Nazis considered "unwanted" (that was the word Liebgott wasn't able to translate). they knew there were camps. and they knew why they were brought to these camps.
Having to watch you two review this episode was heartbreaking. I felt like wrapping you both up in a warm blanket and hiding you away from the pain, but in saying that I think people should be made to watch this episode at least once in their lives. There's a massive difference between WAR and GENOCIDE .