wrong. . . The other members never once accused Ramsey of anything. The girl did. SHe's the only one that should be charged. You need to re-read the laws
Its a long standing tradition in these shows going back to Dragnet and Adam 12. If you watch all the old Jack Web cops shows you'll see a lot of the same guys and women cycle through, and the Adam 12 cops made a lot of appearances on Dragnet, it helps keeps costs down to just have these people on studio payroll and rotate them through shows with the occasional guest star to shake things up.
Sad how the cops and DA saw the guy guilty before he even made it to court, and then completely flipped when they knew the truth. Their blind incompetence killed the man.
@@TheChristianNationalist8692 he knew that jail bait was going to send him to jail again. he knew he would be targeted there. if someone knows a sign says do not touch electrouction hazard, then they touch it why should we have sympathy they got shocked
@@toomanyaccounts :) you might want a little more feeling in the future: you might just surprised if such a thing ever happens to you. But no worries I understand your logic. God rest
Not too many episodes where the parties are innocent. But man when they are, they leave an impact. Sad there's little focus on Russel though. This ep is mainly about how the family tried to scam the system. There's so little focus to seeing this the poor guy's life go downhill. But seeing later how he's beat up and begging Munch to listen to him? Man this episode was *so* messed up.
Women like this girl, just make it harder for actual victims to get justice. Poor guy, didn’t deserve these fake accusations, that lead to his death, he deserved to live.
I hated how it ended though 😪😕 I knew that poor guy was innocent from the beginning. Also being from South Carolina this girls accent was NOT convincing until later in the episode.
@@camillahearsch4807 he wasnt at all though🤔 if you watched the episode the girl who originally was the reason he went to jail said it wasnt his fault she was actually his current girlfriend
When he said he was at the bar and they said the bar couldn't remember him in all fairness that's not a good alibi. It's a crowded bar on opening night. Unless he left $200 tip of course the bartender wasn't going to remember him.
3:22 For anyone who hasn’t seen this episode and are confused, this is the same episode where Olivia finds out that her mother passed away. That is what Munch is referring to when talking to Elliot here.
Again one of my favorite episodes. Your episodes choose is excellent! I am exited if Parasites will also be in your selection (my fourth favorite episode of 2nd season).
The girl is a scam artist who used SVU like her personal firearm. Seeing them so smug only to find out the truth later did little to their humility. Liv and Stabler are as self-assured as ever.
I felt that RR didn’t do it, but maybe it was from seeing on TV years ago. But he was very believable with being surprised when they told him the charge and when he was being questioned.
It annoys me that I can't find this entire episode to watch on RUclips. For some strange reason episodes from Season 2, 3 , 4 and 5 are unavailable. Season 1 and seasons 6 to 15 are the only ones available. Where can I find an episode from season 2?
The worst part is, even though it is acting, you can see it in his eyes that he is shocked at the revelation that she was beaten. I mean even if I didn't tend to favor the suspect due to how easy it is for women to claim consensual intercourse as the big R, I would have at least been fair with the treatment. He is innocent until proven guilty and while he was there and claims to have slept with her, meaning that both stories line up with his presence at the hotel, it was his word against hers. And while yes, there were injuries on her and she claimed it was him, you can't be sure that she is being truthful.
and no I haven't talk to them yet, that something that I can do tomorrow and see what they tell me , but it depends on how much they will allow me to get ,
@@duaneelliott5194 funny that i mention one extreme and you bring up the opposite end. Patience is the really key to solving anything. For irrational impulses only make the problem even worse.
Even London Police had to drop the policy of “believe all victims”. as it turns out, prosecutors withheld evidence that would exonerated many of the accused. Things like texts and messages on social media.
Funny how this agitprop displays in a bad way the hotel having security and a lawyer onsite before the gun and badge thugs. However, anyone that knows how the "system" and their gun and badge thugs work, knows how prudent that is. Never, ever, never talk to the gun and badge thugs.
You need to amend your statement. You can put “it’s often a good idea not to talk, but it can also get you killed” See the episode where this guy had an ironclad alibi, but wouldn’t tell it to the police, because he was gay and didn’t want anyone to know. There was enough circumstantial evidences to get him remanded to Riker’s, which he wouldn’t have been had he just told them his ironclad alibi! By the time they tracked it down on their own and went to get him released, he had been shived by an inmate for his bologna sandwich. So not talking to the police 100% got him killed. So you should amend your statement. If someone takes your advice about not talking and it gets them killed (remember these episodes are taken from real crimes), a DA like McCoy could probably try to prosecute you for manslaughter (in that following your advice got them killed.)
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She said she never met him. He recited her name and the hotel they were at as an alibi. Immediate innocence
According to the law, because the family tried to scam the hotel, and someone died in the process, they should all be charged for murder.
And spoiler, that's what happens to Shavon at the end.
@@rdtworld9720 Siobhan
@@rdtworld9720 👀
wrong. . . The other members never once accused Ramsey of anything. The girl did. SHe's the only one that should be charged. You need to re-read the laws
@@jamedlock83 It doesn't matter. They all participated, so, Ramsey's blood is on all their hands. None of them deserve a free pass.
Wow. I love how actors are cycled through and each performance is an entirely different person. Applause
I like telling my husband, “Oh that guy played a murderer in another season!” And he just looks at me like “how do you remember these things?!” 🤣
Its a long standing tradition in these shows going back to Dragnet and Adam 12. If you watch all the old Jack Web cops shows you'll see a lot of the same guys and women cycle through, and the Adam 12 cops made a lot of appearances on Dragnet, it helps keeps costs down to just have these people on studio payroll and rotate them through shows with the occasional guest star to shake things up.
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Right! I recently watched one of this with this same girl playing the Vic but the other one I seen she played a perp
Sad how the cops and DA saw the guy guilty before he even made it to court, and then completely flipped when they knew the truth. Their blind incompetence killed the man.
The DA is more smug and snotty than incompetent. You should see her in other episodes. She even tried to make Stabler look bad and failed horribly
the guy was dumb. he had a girlfriend and cheated on her with what looked like jailbait.
@@toomanyaccounts so his death was a good thing: is that your conclusion?
@@TheChristianNationalist8692 he knew that jail bait was going to send him to jail again. he knew he would be targeted there. if someone knows a sign says do not touch electrouction hazard, then they touch it why should we have sympathy they got shocked
@@toomanyaccounts :) you might want a little more feeling in the future: you might just surprised if such a thing ever happens to you. But no worries I understand your logic.
God rest
Not too many episodes where the parties are innocent. But man when they are, they leave an impact. Sad there's little focus on Russel though. This ep is mainly about how the family tried to scam the system. There's so little focus to seeing this the poor guy's life go downhill. But seeing later how he's beat up and begging Munch to listen to him? Man this episode was *so* messed up.
Happens to many men falsely accused its Horrendous 🤬
It was irritated
the detectives attitudes towards him made it even worse
I just went and watched the full episode and I am LIVID. These people, especially the liar are DISGUSTING.
Where did you watch the full episode?? I can not get seasons 2,3 or 4
get hulu it’s cheap and it has all the svu seasons up to 23
Yes this episode was ridiculously crazy... When I realized she was lying 🤥 I was shocked 😳
Women like this girl, just make it harder for actual victims to get justice. Poor guy, didn’t deserve these fake accusations, that lead to his death, he deserved to live.
Can confirm. Victims get interrogated more than them
I hated how it ended though 😪😕 I knew that poor guy was innocent from the beginning. Also being from South Carolina this girls accent was NOT convincing until later in the episode.
Hell im from texas racking my brain on what kind of accent that was 😂😂😂 to me she sounded like a terrible texan cowgirl lol
Exactly Im 25 years SC its not a southern accent
@@shakendriamurphy2302 she sound like she’s from Alabama or Arkansas.
@@MsTinkerbelle87 they were Irish travelers.
@@MsTinkerbelle87 unfortunatly too many actors think southern means deep south
felt horrible for ramsey in the end
He's fine, ya know. . . He didn't die. . He's alive and performing in other shows and movies
@@jamedlock83its not fine, you know, this sort of thing happens in real life to real people all the time.
Man I remember this episode. Great one
yes me too
This is a good episode. A very twisted one.
What happened?
@@triciaramgoolam4045 the guy was set by a family of con artist.
@@triciaramgoolam4045 He ends up dying in prison and the girl who scammed him gets charged for his death.
@@1talldaddy that happens
@@troydixon2722 yeah and they were ruthless.
In the end the chief talks about getting the perp with no concern about this guy as if he was just fish bait
why they r called a perp
Because he kinda was
@@rosannaburt3048 because they are the alleged perpetrators
@@camillahearsch4807 he wasnt at all though🤔 if you watched the episode the girl who originally was the reason he went to jail said it wasnt his fault she was actually his current girlfriend
When he said he was at the bar and they said the bar couldn't remember him in all fairness that's not a good alibi. It's a crowded bar on opening night. Unless he left $200 tip of course the bartender wasn't going to remember him.
One of my favorite episodes that con family was responsible for that guy's death.
yeah it was so many twists in that episode.
in the end, she was just as responsible as the family.
that's how she tries to play it off, but it was her scheme she just tried to pin it on her family to stay out of jail
@@eduardoq.h.9259 and then it blew up in her face when Ramsey was killed.
which episode?
"Bizzarely executed escape route"
😂😂😂
i think the word was circuitous, not executed
3:22 For anyone who hasn’t seen this episode and are confused, this is the same episode where Olivia finds out that her mother passed away. That is what Munch is referring to when talking to Elliot here.
Ugh i been looking for this one omg one of my favorite episodes🔥🔥🔥☺☺
Why is it your favorite? *stares in better not be a fucked up reason*
Again one of my favorite episodes. Your episodes choose is excellent! I am exited if Parasites will also be in your selection (my fourth favorite episode of 2nd season).
She is 17 😳 the police look younger then her
Nah the girl lied about 17 and was actually 23
😂😂😂
@@Braylon1997 Yeah, she & her family were playing everyone, including the SVU detectives, for suckers
wow how did they know I just watched this episode the other day🤭
I love law and order
That security guard was never a cop
Nope most security guards beleive they are
Like seriously they use their power like their cops like chill Jason you a rent-a-cop
@@camillahearsch4807 well u gots to have them at times but I got hit what u mean I'd want to carry at least a revolver if I was a sec guard just sayin
The episode where Benson was told about her mother’s passing
Yep that was definitely one of the saddest moments on svu
They tried to scam the hotel and someone ended up dying
season 2 episode 8 for anyone wondering
Thank U! I been on Hulu searching everywhere💯
Thanks
Despise law of dancing 😂😂😂
The girl is a scam artist who used SVU like her personal firearm. Seeing them so smug only to find out the truth later did little to their humility. Liv and Stabler are as self-assured as ever.
So, what are the bets that this guy is just an idiot and the victim is actually framing him either under force or voluntarily
I felt that RR didn’t do it, but maybe it was from seeing on TV years ago. But he was very believable with being surprised when they told him the charge and when he was being questioned.
Stabler /NYC Courts : to be just up honest like I've always been this my way to get out of here , instead of waiting , and it wouldn't hurt me
I see all these people saying the guy is innocent - I haven't seen the episode. Who beat the girl up?
Nobody she did it on purpose
Her friend did it so the allegations seemed real.
@@Tony-hv8wz it was her sister in law not friend
@@marcelmiller7551 whoever. Point is, it was faked and a set up
It annoys me that I can't find this entire episode to watch on RUclips. For some strange reason episodes from Season 2, 3 , 4 and 5 are unavailable. Season 1 and seasons 6 to 15 are the only ones available. Where can I find an episode from season 2?
Hulu
@@ComeliaO7 Thanks for the information. I'll check it out.
I love Olivia Benson
She's a good liar
Why did she leave the kitchen, and the safety of her mothers arms....
What episode is this plz
Season 2 episode 8, it’s in the description
The worst part is, even though it is acting, you can see it in his eyes that he is shocked at the revelation that she was beaten. I mean even if I didn't tend to favor the suspect due to how easy it is for women to claim consensual intercourse as the big R, I would have at least been fair with the treatment. He is innocent until proven guilty and while he was there and claims to have slept with her, meaning that both stories line up with his presence at the hotel, it was his word against hers. And while yes, there were injuries on her and she claimed it was him, you can't be sure that she is being truthful.
hold the hell on up
Ugh the video ended 😭💔
you can watch it on padnoratv
@@1talldaddy you don’t understand the point of comment
@@austinsmith1505 okay i got you now.
Maybe Andrew Cuomo will guest
on a future episode, since he might
be looking for a new job soon.
I doubt it, but I am relatively sure that there will be an SVU episode made based on him and what he was accused of.
and no I haven't talk to them yet, that something that I can do tomorrow and see what they tell me , but it depends on how much they will allow me to get ,
This show makes it impossible to believe women.. all it takes is a couple words and staging something and you ruin a man for life.
stop believing.
1 in 4 women are harmed and 1 in 6 men. The amount of false reports are extremely low.
At first I thought the guy was Nick Mullen
I’m guessing a certain blond woman watched this episode.
The cops are clowns 😂😂😂
What was the episode plot?
I tried to post the link here, but somehow it kept on being deleted. Just google “svu fandom taken” - then you’ll see it
Emmett Till in whyteface
@@Renegade2786 😶
@@Renegade2786 wtf is wrong with you?
Showed that "listen and believe" was flawed even back then
Yes and the "ignore and discredit" has worked out so much better.
@@duaneelliott5194 funny that i mention one extreme and you bring up the opposite end.
Patience is the really key to solving anything. For irrational impulses only make the problem even worse.
@@duaneelliott5194 Don't be disingenuous. It always comes down to evidence.
Even London Police had to drop the policy of “believe all victims”. as it turns out, prosecutors withheld evidence that would exonerated many of the accused. Things like texts and messages on social media.
@@elderliddle2733 because a lie travels around the world twice, before the truth is ever told.
she is a faker
Munch is a hottie!!! Ban me again I beg of you!!! You had me banned for 3 weeks cause I said I would screw munch!!! #FreedomOfSPEECH
Did amber watch this
Funny how this agitprop displays in a bad way the hotel having security and a lawyer onsite before the gun and badge thugs. However, anyone that knows how the "system" and their gun and badge thugs work, knows how prudent that is.
Never, ever, never talk to the gun and badge thugs.
You need to amend your statement. You can put “it’s often a good idea not to talk, but it can also get you killed”
See the episode where this guy had an ironclad alibi, but wouldn’t tell it to the police, because he was gay and didn’t want anyone to know. There was enough circumstantial evidences to get him remanded to Riker’s, which he wouldn’t have been had he just told them his ironclad alibi! By the time they tracked it down on their own and went to get him released, he had been shived by an inmate for his bologna sandwich. So not talking to the police 100% got him killed. So you should amend your statement. If someone takes your advice about not talking and it gets them killed (remember these episodes are taken from real crimes), a DA like McCoy could probably try to prosecute you for manslaughter (in that following your advice got them killed.)
Love the show, but I gotta admit, that blonde is by far the worst cop I’ve ever seen
that blonde is the ADA.
chloe sevigny?
Stabler SVU: NYC / NYC COURTS , Ive done this before but at that time I wasn't able to , when I say that it got my bank involved , so thought about this and my windows one computer I am able to put it and let my bank use to get myself a loan so I get out of here sooner than next month, Stabler, SVU / can I your own advance , just to let you know it's paid full done no payment ,