He’s not just having a “good” statistical season, he’s putting up mvp caliber numbers despite missing 2 and half games. To say everyone expected this is a lie!
Jalen Hurts hasn’t had to backpack in one game this year. Tua has had to backpack in several games this just for the Dolphins to win. Give the man his credit Tua is balling.
Tua didn’t under throw the ball it was a touch pass. Tua should have put some arm on it, So I agree that was on Tua. On the 4th and 1 Durham Smythe turned his head back for no reason that why Tua hesitated on the throw.
So when y’all was talking about qb tiers, where would y’all put deshaun Watson? Last time he played I’d say he was tier 2 but I’m expecting a drop off when he returns
Tua had 9 incompletions TOTAL and people want to pick and choose between those 9. 21 completions for 300 yards and you want to talk about those 9 bad passes. Is tua the only qb who has to be PERFECT for people to be like "ehh yeah he's a starting qb." Josh Allen bounces balls to the flats at least once every 2 weeks.
I feel like everyone thought tua was going to have a great statistical season this year, but I still am not sure if you can trust his arm in a tough playoff game where it is going to be little room for error
Yes you guys are right in saying the titans have no explosive offense. But in the playoffs, all you need is a good running game with great defense. Mahomes literally had to throw 60+ times to beat us with a rookie QB in a hostile environment. The titans will be fine once we get Tanny and Burks back 👍
Miami would be better off without tyreke than being without Tua. Let’s all be real here. Teddy and hill got nothing done in those 3 games. Hill even got frustration with teddy
Joel said there’s nothing wrong with just being good… Problem is you didn’t even give Tua the acknowledgment of him being “good”. Now you’re nitpicking why he’s not “great” without acknowledging that he’s good. Stop ✋🏾 slow down ✋🏾 hold this L…. And now we can have ANOTHER conversation about how good he can be. Dead these questions about if he’s good. That is No 👏 longer 👏 a question. That’s why Drew was getting hype. Don’t shy from it. Acknowledge the L and give the man his flowers.
Tua looks good because Tyreek Hill changes how the defensive coordinators have to approach Miami. Jaylen Waddle is getting the third best corner often times and he's burning them and Hill has the speed and route running to torch a 2 high scheme. Tua still has the lack of arm strength.
This Tua debate is stupid. We already saw what this team is without Tua for 3 games and they went 0-3 and averaged 16 pts a game. Obviously the team does better with Tua than without and this is dating back to last year as well.
Tua is a franchise QB his iq is through the roof. Watch how quick he makes his read and lets go of the ball. I will be the first to admit i was not Tua a believer, but its clear as day with Daniels he elite. People say his ball looks bad but it is just because he is a lefty. If you watch in person ball has heat on it. Flip video a video of him throwing to righty you will see the truth. Calling Tua average at this point is ridiculous.
This! You can tell these guys don’t understand what they’re watching. The reason they’re so open is because Tua has elite anticipation and is throwing the ball before the wr even makes their break. This is the type of stuff Brady and Brees made a career out of!
@@rainman11 THANK YOU. I said this to my doubting friends 5 weeks ago. I told Them what we’re seeing with Tua is at a hall of fame genius level as it pertains to reading the defense. That’s the most valuable aspect of any of these great QBs…. Their mind.
This man could win the Super Bowl, and the goal posts would still get moved. Tua is just as lights out throwing to his other weapons. Personally the only question about Tua for me is can he stay healthy. He still has injury concerns. He misses two games and is still in the top of the league statistically. There aren’t 10 QBs I take over Tua. And I definitely at this point do not take Herbert.
Tua missed the 4th - 1 because smythe turned his head upfeild when he was in the middle of his throwing motion and tua didn’t know if he going to turn up field. look at the film tua explained in his press conference just missed communication
I get Tua has been put in a great position, but when he's not been there they've not looked at all that good. Tua is contributing significantly to their offence and saying other QBs could do more is neither here nor there as you don't know. Also the convo round Tua in your mind may have always been about whether or not he's a franchise guy, but a lot of the media has pushed in the past that Tua may not even been a starting QB on a decent team
The love for Herbert is so confusing. His arm talent is amazing, but does he really have that “IT” factor? All he had to do was beat the Raiders last year and they would’ve made the playoffs and he didn’t get it done.
@@superduperdebegoat4042 yep, people clown Wentz all the time for missing the playoffs by losing to the jags but nobody even talks about how Herbert missed by losing to the Texans.
That’s the crazy component they talk about the “IT” factor and Herbert has not showing the “IT” factor he’s been surrounded by a better cast his entire career and has a worse record that’s literally the definition of “IT” factor getting it done
We all knew this would happen right? The Chiefs have an offensive struggle for a game or two and everyone chalks it up to "missing Hill"... of course, no one remembering that we had these same stints with Hill and funny enough, Mahomes basically had to do the same thing against the Titans two seasons ago to beat them (the game went almost identically to this game... Henry did what he wanted in the first, shut him down in the second). The reality is they simply had a bad game against a defense they've had a history of struggling with even when we had Hill. This is not an example of "missing Hill", its an example of being a top 3 team in the NFL for 5 years in a row and not getting a week off because everyone wants to take you down.
Stop hating on Tua. Not everyone can do what he is doing. Most quarterbacks live on the sideline. Tua throws in the center of the field. What he is doing isn’t for everyone. I would suggest you look at him throwing in reverse if you think his arm is weak. ✌🏾
Tua is good but Drew is being Mr. Flip a side lol. Tua having really good games now that has a potential Coach of the year and the best wide receiver duo in NFL right now. Oh Tuas the greatest cause he’s been real good 6 games. Next argument oh these other quarterbacks have been this for this many years. That’s all Joel was saying about Tua.
And does this even mean? Tua wasn’t even that bad his first 2 years considering how dysfunctional everything was around him. That was his floor and unless reek /waddle gets hurt or McDaniel gets fired out of the blue then there’s no reason why Tua can’t continue to produce in this offense.
I don’t get this misinformation we’re tua was terrible last year. He won game 1 vs the pats, got injured week 2, came back and had a couple losses with career high stats for the time and finished out the season 8-1. When did he play so bad that it created losses? He’s just playing on another stratosphere this year.
The hate on tua is so crazy now it’s the system the receivers all types of bs none of tua is processing the field at an elite level the only Qb in the League that can operate this system better might be Brady that’s it
No, you’re under hyping him. Tua is this offense. Y’all will not appreciate Tua in this offense unless you watch the all-22 film or watch the game in person. The receivers have not been running wide open, Tua has been throwing them open. Tua hardly ever throws the ball to the receiver he throws it to spots he thinks they’ll be in. It’s insane how well Tua is playing. Statistically it has been the best 3rd year a QB has played since 1970.
In the middle of the pod and Tua is so far into Joel’s head it’s bringing out the anger when Tua is 19-9 in his career and the top statistical QB in the league this year and he simply can’t handle the facts. Sorry you have to deal with this every week Drew. Kid is a Jets fan and he can’t get past the fact. If Tua was 19-9 in his career for the Jets and he was No. 1 in the NFL the dude would be calling him top 5. No consistency! #FlipaSide
i’m kinda mad that none of y’all were really sold on justin fields and now y’all wanna buy in 😭🤦🏽♂️ but it’s whatever at least nobody hating on bro as much anymore
delhs i don’t like the way u disrespecting cam at all bru. Cam was an MVP and took a team to a super bowl. rookie of the year, led a team to an undefeated record. that’s cam newtons career. I like fields, i’ve liked him since i seen him and trevor go at it on elite 11. I felt like the niners should’ve taken him over lawrence, but don’t play like he’s better than cam already. Cam never had a 1k WR iirc. Like they said get back in the lab and watch superman highlights🤣
Tua literally had the the quickest release from the pocket in the entire nfl BECAUSE 1. That O line was the WORST 2. He reads defenses faster than everyone else.
He literally just has Tyreek and waddle! You guys act like everything is elite around him. I bet you didn’t even know miamis oline ranks near the bottom of the league. It doesn’t seem like it because Tua masks a lot of their deficiencies with his ability to process and release the ball quick. We seen how valuable Tua is to this offense, they went 0-3 without him averaging 16 pts a gm.
Also if tyreek is the main offense in miami then why couldn't he win 3 games with out tua?? Not 1 or 2 but he had 3 chances to carry that win! Fat guy is just the biggest tua hater! Tua has arrived! Y'all can have the big arm will take accuracy any day! Breeze 2.0
Everyone on this podcasts loves saying “we” and Drew is the worst when it comes to that. Tua d riding is insufferable because put Mahomes, Herbert, Allen, Lamar, and many many many others they’re going to the super bowl and setting records. Tua is mid and so are Drew’s opinions. He’s a d rider.
Colts with matt ryan would have been 7-9 at best now they will be 4-13 lol...its not huge of a difference joel ...ryan is passed his prime man just accept it
While I don’t disagree that Ryan is not the qb he once was, they’d be 4-13 because Matt Ryan already won them 3 games. If Ryan never played the colts would be a 2 win team at best.
what i don’t understand about drew and tua fans is they suddenly want to catapult him into top 5 conversations without any nuance. tua isn’t the reason the dolphins are this good but he’s part of it. and it’s fair to assume the top QBs would do better in mcdaniels system.
Dude just stop. Tired of this bs when phins finally draft well, sign a big time player who is actually worth the money, hired the right coach and now it’s “tua is just part of the ride” do you give any shit to chiefs fans for him inheriting a team that Alex smith went 12-4 with? Tua literally has not had one bad game this season compared to Herbert/Allen/rodgers/burrow.
@@uppertroupe y’all be so quick to be defensive lol i didn’t say anything negative. it’s a pretty favorable argument to suggest the other top tier QBs could do what Tua is doing with Mcdaniels system. i like MIA. just don’t consider Tua among those top guys yet. it’s not wrong to want to see him do a lil more against better comp.
@@mylonevibe that’s not how it works. You can’t compare those QBs who have had stacked teams to tua who finally has weapons. I could say the same if you put tua on the 2020 chiefs and mahomes on the 2020 phins, mahomes would not look good and tua would.
@@uppertroupe tua had jaylen waddle last year and got a new coach and the best threat at the WR in the league.. and he’s having a great season… is it really insane to think it could also be because of those additions that Tua is playing so well?? every receiver is open.. no shade but y’all gotta pump the breaks when these other guys have also dealt with their own issues. the question with the bagels was the line and coaching, the question with the chargers was the the weapons and coaching, the question with hurts was his arm and still is the it factor, and the question with tua was his arm and still is the it factor.. let him show more before trying to catapult him with the established guys.
OMG THe dolphins have A TON OF iNJURIES.... Austin jackson, Liam Eichenburg, and durham smythe were all hurt ONLY smythe is back come on guys at least know your facts.
Tua had no receiver outside of waddle his first two seasons with the worst statistical o line in history and winning. Herbert had weapons and was losing
Man I’ve missed the 4 of y’all together in person the energy is just amazing.
💯
Love the pods best thing onna tub! 💪🏽
I love logging into youtube and seeing a new episode. LEGENDS IN THE MAKING!!!
Appreciate the consistency 👌
Joel: “Everyone knew Tua was gonna have a good statistical season”
Drew: “You’re killing me”
Same Drew Same
He’s not just having a “good” statistical season, he’s putting up mvp caliber numbers despite missing 2 and half games. To say everyone expected this is a lie!
Lmaoo Drew said “Fuck it. If Riv can wear sunglasses the whole podcast, then I’m doing it too!” 😂😂
Dehls making Riv uncomfortable with his flirting is hilarious 😂😂
Welcome back Drew, dude was getting studious
Need a fantasy segment from you guys fr, sleeper pick up’s and drop, high or low sells. Y’all would be the first and only ones doing it
Love that idea
@@Roxino32 😅 my
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Jalen Hurts hasn’t had to backpack in one game this year. Tua has had to backpack in several games this just for the Dolphins to win. Give the man his credit Tua is balling.
Facts. These dudes hating they ass off
Not backpacking with tyreek having over 1000 rec yards
@@kylin5902 How did Tyreek get those yards???? I wonder???? Is Tyreek throwing and catching the ball himself??
@@kylin5902 he’s talking about how Tua has to save the dolphins every week from the dolphins sorry defense. Hurtz hasn’t played anyone yet
@@kylin5902 not like he’s throwing the ball to himself
Welcome back Drew great to see you again!!
I'm just here for the Tua Debate... LOL
Same
Love the fresh drop for my commute to work.
The Dehls and Riv dynamic is hilarious 😭
I always get happy when I see pick a side drop
Savannah Ga next fr! 👀
Love the show guys ❤
Y’all should record the thanksgiving game so we know if y’all really be active
Drew doesn’t get that tua plays with two receivers that you can just give them the ball and will get them 40 yards😂
2:59:45 Joel snuck that in there has me dying 😂😂😂
The gang is back!
Love this 4 right here
Would’ve never thought somebody would be bold enough to stop in front of a semi
Needed this episode
Tua didn’t under throw the ball it was a touch pass. Tua should have put some arm on it, So I agree that was on Tua. On the 4th and 1 Durham Smythe turned his head back for no reason that why Tua hesitated on the throw.
Yo you Tua fans are hilarious dawg
@@mikedaboss2255 How so?
3rd time getting shutout from the best pod out there, LFG
Joel saying hill is the offense for the dolphins like he passes himself the ball 🤣
I love this podcast
I only watch this show because of Drew .❤
Drew better talk his shit about about Tua!!!!! He’s having a career year for most QBs period.
Joel be like Zach Wilson is top 5 in how he says Hike OPOA per 36 …
Drew- preaching about the dolphins and it being heartfelt
joel- Justin fields was historic..
just disregarded what he said lmao!
dehls sneaking in that matt ryan was funny asf
Ik I might be a few days late, but congrats to Drew on finishing his last semster🫡
joel in his lebron bag😭😭 “i used to trade him to the knicks”
Wakin up gettin crust out my eyes and pickin a side ❤
So when y’all was talking about qb tiers, where would y’all put deshaun Watson? Last time he played I’d say he was tier 2 but I’m expecting a drop off when he returns
Saying no to a Lamelo for Kawhi trade is insane. Lamelo is going to double kawhi in fantasy points this year
Tua had 9 incompletions TOTAL and people want to pick and choose between those 9. 21 completions for 300 yards and you want to talk about those 9 bad passes. Is tua the only qb who has to be PERFECT for people to be like "ehh yeah he's a starting qb." Josh Allen bounces balls to the flats at least once every 2 weeks.
He did it to the dolphins
I have go disagree with Mixon being overrated. I could argue that he’s been underrated actually. What he brings to the Bengals is crazy impactful.
Somebody tell Drew he look like he just got back from the 12th street beach in Miami
I feel like everyone thought tua was going to have a great statistical season this year, but I still am not sure if you can trust his arm in a tough playoff game where it is going to be little room for error
Yes you guys are right in saying the titans have no explosive offense. But in the playoffs, all you need is a good running game with great defense. Mahomes literally had to throw 60+ times to beat us with a rookie QB in a hostile environment. The titans will be fine once we get Tanny and Burks back 👍
Dehls was spitting this episode. When he’s not busy hating on Matt Ryan (ironically he still threw a jab) he be saying some real shit lol
The Tua hate & the Herbert D’riding is getting embarrassing at this point. Keep the goal post in one position.
When is boom coming to Nj
Miami would be better off without tyreke than being without Tua. Let’s all be real here. Teddy and hill got nothing done in those 3 games. Hill even got frustration with teddy
Congrats drew
Herbert checking down like crazy man lol
Joel said there’s nothing wrong with just being good…
Problem is you didn’t even give Tua the acknowledgment of him being “good”. Now you’re nitpicking why he’s not “great” without acknowledging that he’s good. Stop ✋🏾 slow down ✋🏾 hold this L…. And now we can have ANOTHER conversation about how good he can be. Dead these questions about if he’s good. That is No 👏 longer 👏 a question. That’s why Drew was getting hype. Don’t shy from it. Acknowledge the L and give the man his flowers.
Tua looks good because Tyreek Hill changes how the defensive coordinators have to approach Miami. Jaylen Waddle is getting the third best corner often times and he's burning them and Hill has the speed and route running to torch a 2 high scheme. Tua still has the lack of arm strength.
So now Tua is getting the Lamar Jackson criticism and TUANEERs can’t handle it
This Tua debate is stupid. We already saw what this team is without Tua for 3 games and they went 0-3 and averaged 16 pts a game. Obviously the team does better with Tua than without and this is dating back to last year as well.
Drew the 🐐
Is this the same Joel that said Dejounte wouldn't be in the league? 🤣😂
It seems like the only one that really knows ball here is Drew
Tua is a franchise QB his iq is through the roof. Watch how quick he makes his read and lets go of the ball. I will be the first to admit i was not Tua a believer, but its clear as day with Daniels he elite. People say his ball looks bad but it is just because he is a lefty. If you watch in person ball has heat on it. Flip video a video of him throwing to righty you will see the truth. Calling Tua average at this point is ridiculous.
YOU guys are missing the POINT TUA throws the BALL before the recievers are open....... I try to listen to you guys but this take is annoying at best.
This! You can tell these guys don’t understand what they’re watching. The reason they’re so open is because Tua has elite anticipation and is throwing the ball before the wr even makes their break. This is the type of stuff Brady and Brees made a career out of!
@@rainman11 THANK YOU. I said this to my doubting friends 5 weeks ago. I told
Them what we’re seeing with Tua is at a hall of fame genius level as it pertains to reading the defense. That’s the most valuable aspect of any of these great QBs…. Their mind.
@@alainlamour5868 exactly and I forgot to mention his ability to look off defenders too is also a trait the elite qbs have.
This man could win the Super Bowl, and the goal posts would still get moved. Tua is just as lights out throwing to his other weapons. Personally the only question about Tua for me is can he stay healthy. He still has injury concerns. He misses two games and is still in the top of the league statistically. There aren’t 10 QBs I take over Tua. And I definitely at this point do not take Herbert.
Tua missed the 4th - 1 because smythe turned his head upfeild when he was in the middle of his throwing motion and tua didn’t know if he going to turn up field. look at the film tua explained in his press conference just missed communication
I get Tua has been put in a great position, but when he's not been there they've not looked at all that good. Tua is contributing significantly to their offence and saying other QBs could do more is neither here nor there as you don't know. Also the convo round Tua in your mind may have always been about whether or not he's a franchise guy, but a lot of the media has pushed in the past that Tua may not even been a starting QB on a decent team
The love for Herbert is so confusing. His arm talent is amazing, but does he really have that “IT” factor? All he had to do was beat the Raiders last year and they would’ve made the playoffs and he didn’t get it done.
Correction; all he had to do was beat the Texans and they would have made the playoffs
@@Atlantafan21 well damn, that’s even worse. 😂
@@superduperdebegoat4042 yep, people clown Wentz all the time for missing the playoffs by losing to the jags but nobody even talks about how Herbert missed by losing to the Texans.
That’s the crazy component they talk about the “IT” factor and Herbert has not showing the “IT” factor he’s been surrounded by a better cast his entire career and has a worse record that’s literally the definition of “IT” factor getting it done
We all knew this would happen right?
The Chiefs have an offensive struggle for a game or two and everyone chalks it up to "missing Hill"... of course, no one remembering that we had these same stints with Hill and funny enough, Mahomes basically had to do the same thing against the Titans two seasons ago to beat them (the game went almost identically to this game... Henry did what he wanted in the first, shut him down in the second). The reality is they simply had a bad game against a defense they've had a history of struggling with even when we had Hill. This is not an example of "missing Hill", its an example of being a top 3 team in the NFL for 5 years in a row and not getting a week off because everyone wants to take you down.
I am picking Tua.
eckler : 850yds 10 td
t. hill: 1100yds 4 tds
winner: eckler
Stop hating on Tua. Not everyone can do what he is doing. Most quarterbacks live on the sideline. Tua throws in the center of the field. What he is doing isn’t for everyone. I would suggest you look at him throwing in reverse if you think his arm is weak. ✌🏾
Drew you lost me with the Tua argument man. 😂
Tua is good but Drew is being Mr. Flip a side lol. Tua having really good games now that has a potential Coach of the year and the best wide receiver duo in NFL right now. Oh Tuas the greatest cause he’s been real good 6 games. Next argument oh these other quarterbacks have been this for this many years. That’s all Joel was saying about Tua.
He’s giving tua his flowers waaaay to early he will be tua just watch and I’m here for the episode haha
Y’all said that after the ravens game. Still waiting big guy.
And does this even mean? Tua wasn’t even that bad his first 2 years considering how dysfunctional everything was around him. That was his floor and unless reek /waddle gets hurt or McDaniel gets fired out of the blue then there’s no reason why Tua can’t continue to produce in this offense.
austin smythe?? Try durham??????
Drew lookin so shiesty 🥶🥶 my lightskin King
I don’t get this misinformation we’re tua was terrible last year. He won game 1 vs the pats, got injured week 2, came back and had a couple losses with career high stats for the time and finished out the season 8-1. When did he play so bad that it created losses? He’s just playing on another stratosphere this year.
Joel clearly can’t stand that Tua clears Zach 😂
I would still take Herbert & Burrow over Tua but I came around on tua he proving to be legit
Enjoy losing
The hate on tua is so crazy now it’s the system the receivers all types of bs none of tua is processing the field at an elite level the only Qb in the League that can operate this system better might be Brady that’s it
i have my bama biased for anyone that went there but drew is overhyping tua a lot💀
No, you’re under hyping him. Tua is this offense. Y’all will not appreciate Tua in this offense unless you watch the all-22 film or watch the game in person. The receivers have not been running wide open, Tua has been throwing them open. Tua hardly ever throws the ball to the receiver he throws it to spots he thinks they’ll be in. It’s insane how well Tua is playing. Statistically it has been the best 3rd year a QB has played since 1970.
Fields has an elite arm, he just doesn't have the weaponry and time.
In the middle of the pod and Tua is so far into Joel’s head it’s bringing out the anger when Tua is 19-9 in his career and the top statistical QB in the league this year and he simply can’t handle the facts. Sorry you have to deal with this every week Drew. Kid is a Jets fan and he can’t get past the fact. If Tua was 19-9 in his career for the Jets and he was No. 1 in the NFL the dude would be calling him top 5. No consistency! #FlipaSide
zeke looks bottom 20 is crazy, hes definitely not that bad lol
Sorry I don’t believe ANYTHING someone says who considers Zach Wilson a good quarterback.
Facts
WHY THE HELL IS justin herbert a franchise qb
i’m kinda mad that none of y’all were really sold on justin fields and now y’all wanna buy in 😭🤦🏽♂️ but it’s whatever at least nobody hating on bro as much anymore
26:00 You cant say this and still not give the vikings respect
Joel don’t know about Smythe’s real name is Durham, Jets casual smh
Joel you say the worst stats terrace Marshall top 20 when beating man coverage ??? He has 200 yards total he shouldn’t qualify for top 20
Joel just hating on Tua
Why is he so mad that’s what he does with Lamar
Tua was in the worst situation last yr and almost made the playoffs
delhs i don’t like the way u disrespecting cam at all bru. Cam was an MVP and took a team to a super bowl. rookie of the year, led a team to an undefeated record. that’s cam newtons career. I like fields, i’ve liked him since i seen him and trevor go at it on elite 11. I felt like the niners should’ve taken him over lawrence, but don’t play like he’s better than cam already. Cam never had a 1k WR iirc. Like they said get back in the lab and watch superman highlights🤣
Burrow is the most accurate passer over the last two seasons.... tua wouldn't make it threw the season behind the bengals offensive line
Tua literally had a worse OL than the Bengals his first 2 seasons but go off
@@Hrvatski77 dude u are crazy.... and tua has been benched and injured his whole career
@@nastynatti4313 No it’s literally facts the Dolphins O line in Tuas first 2 years was ranked the worst line in the league both years
Tua literally had the the quickest release from the pocket in the entire nfl BECAUSE 1. That O line was the WORST 2. He reads defenses faster than everyone else.
Joel bruh Lamar is better than burrow and herbert.
Tua needs all these pieces to win not Lamar though he can have y’all as his weapons and still be 6-3
He literally just has Tyreek and waddle! You guys act like everything is elite around him. I bet you didn’t even know miamis oline ranks near the bottom of the league. It doesn’t seem like it because Tua masks a lot of their deficiencies with his ability to process and release the ball quick. We seen how valuable Tua is to this offense, they went 0-3 without him averaging 16 pts a gm.
Dolphins 0-3 without Tua.
🐐🐐🐐🐐
Also if tyreek is the main offense in miami then why couldn't he win 3 games with out tua?? Not 1 or 2 but he had 3 chances to carry that win! Fat guy is just the biggest tua hater! Tua has arrived! Y'all can have the big arm will take accuracy any day! Breeze 2.0
Everyone on this podcasts loves saying “we” and Drew is the worst when it comes to that. Tua d riding is insufferable because put Mahomes, Herbert, Allen, Lamar, and many many many others they’re going to the super bowl and setting records. Tua is mid and so are Drew’s opinions. He’s a d rider.
Jewels bro stop dis jalen hurts hate bro if Herbert a franchise qb then hurts is hurts has won way more in less time
Colts with matt ryan would have been 7-9 at best now they will be 4-13 lol...its not huge of a difference joel ...ryan is passed his prime man just accept it
While I don’t disagree that Ryan is not the qb he once was, they’d be 4-13 because Matt Ryan already won them 3 games. If Ryan never played the colts would be a 2 win team at best.
what i don’t understand about drew and tua fans is they suddenly want to catapult him into top 5 conversations without any nuance. tua isn’t the reason the dolphins are this good but he’s part of it. and it’s fair to assume the top QBs would do better in mcdaniels system.
Dude just stop. Tired of this bs when phins finally draft well, sign a big time player who is actually worth the money, hired the right coach and now it’s “tua is just part of the ride” do you give any shit to chiefs fans for him inheriting a team that Alex smith went 12-4 with? Tua literally has not had one bad game this season compared to Herbert/Allen/rodgers/burrow.
@@uppertroupe y’all be so quick to be defensive lol i didn’t say anything negative. it’s a pretty favorable argument to suggest the other top tier QBs could do what Tua is doing with Mcdaniels system. i like MIA. just don’t consider Tua among those top guys yet. it’s not wrong to want to see him do a lil more against better comp.
@@uppertroupe and alex smith and jared goff are prime scalpels WHY you don’t propel these guys early…
@@mylonevibe that’s not how it works. You can’t compare those QBs who have had stacked teams to tua who finally has weapons. I could say the same if you put tua on the 2020 chiefs and mahomes on the 2020 phins, mahomes would not look good and tua would.
@@uppertroupe tua had jaylen waddle last year and got a new coach and the best threat at the WR in the league.. and he’s having a great season… is it really insane to think it could also be because of those additions that Tua is playing so well?? every receiver is open.. no shade but y’all gotta pump the breaks when these other guys have also dealt with their own issues. the question with the bagels was the line and coaching, the question with the chargers was the the weapons and coaching, the question with hurts was his arm and still is the it factor, and the question with tua was his arm and still is the it factor.. let him show more before trying to catapult him with the established guys.
OMG THe dolphins have A TON OF iNJURIES.... Austin jackson, Liam Eichenburg, and durham smythe were all hurt ONLY smythe is back come on guys at least know your facts.
herbert is playing with josh palmer deandre carter as his wide receivers does drew even know who those players are lmao ......
Tua had no receiver outside of waddle his first two seasons with the worst statistical o line in history and winning. Herbert had weapons and was losing
Also no run game as well
waddle is better than anything herbert has ever had lol and what winning ....herberts rookie season is better tua's whole nfl career ....