I love finding new to me YT channels with high quality content relating to my hyper-niche interests! I was shocked to see your sub count, with this level of quality I’m sure it’s only a matter of time before things pop. Keep up the great work! I’m looking forward to going through your other vids :o)
I just wanna say I really appreciate your videos. This is such a niche subgenre but the fanbase is passionate and I selfishly wish you all the success so we can continue to get great content from you.
So excited to check this whole video out! Nice to hear the positive things you have to say about SDOJ, I feel like it gets a bad rap in the west for some reason (mostly by people who seemingly have never played it). Excited to build my skills with your tips and try for a new ship clear!
Thanks for the enthusiasm as always! The video is geared towards new players and I'm not an expert on this game, but hopefully it's still a fun watch for you even if you've already cleared it :) and yeah, I have no idea why sdoj is so looked down upon! Imo it's S-tier bullet hell.
I was never able to get into SDOJ because it feels so much harder than it looks like it should be, and for me a cornerstone of ideal shmup design is the opposite effect where the game makes you feel like a million bucks for getting through something of the same effective difficulty. I wonder if that sort of thing is where Yagawa's perspective comes from as well. This definitely convinced me to give it another chance though, if the Switch port has good input lag numbers I'll for sure pick it up!
I can understand that, and iirc Ikeda said they erred on the side of it being too difficult (since they felt like it would be their last game and they wanted it to feel "ultimate"). As I say in the video, there's definitely a hump that you have to overcome. If you like other Cave stuff, I'd say it's worth it giving it a second look! But if it's just not for you, that's okay too :)
@@hazylevels Yeah it seems like the kind of game where you need to get a feel for how it wants you to play and then it starts to click and feel really rewarding. I look forward to digging into it
@@Yakkers It feels deceptively difficult for a Cave Shump. On paper it should be a little easier than games like Mushihimesama Futari because of less bullet density but the hitbox feels way bigger than the original Daioujou so I just keep getting clipped by stray bullets. Maybe its just a skill issue but I do wish the hitbox was a little smaller, something about as small as Daioujou would be ideal
Thank you for this guided walkthrough! I bought SDOJ yesterday on switch and I couldn't for the life of me get more lives and I would just die at the midboss in stage 3, in novice I couldn't get past stage 4 too lol I'll try to memorize the hyper strat with the bomb combinations
Sweet clear with Knuckles! SDOJ is like DOJ in a neon edm concert with a faster pace lol. I absolutely love the presentation, the music, and more laxed scoring system. But holy hell it's scary AF. I never owned 360 so my first time playing it was on the hack. I'm so excited to finally properly play it on Switch.
@@hazylevels I always use Dinosaur (Type B) just because I like green 😂. But I'll have to try Type A some time since I mostly see clears with that ship.
Should I ever go for the arcade mode, this is going to be a really helpful resource! For now the regular novice mode (not expert) is keeping me on edge, but I am confident I get my 1cc this week :)
Great video as always! This is my first time leaving a comment, but discovering your channel earlier this year rekindled my love for shmups, and i really appreciate that! Nice to see you covering SDOJ too, since no one seems to talk about it for some reason. I have a couple of questions about the game: First: How hard is it compared to DOJ? I've heard people say that they are similar difficulty wise, but as someone who can consistently clear DOJ, SDOJ looks crazy Second: I usually don't care about score, but there's something addicting about scoring in DOJ that always keeps me going back to improve. Is that the case with SDOJ? Third: How well does it run in MAME? sadly, i'm a keyboard player, so emulation is the way to go for me (Still buying it on Switch to show support tho!)
1. it's much harder. it's probably the hardest "easiest clear" in a cave game if that makes any sense 3. xenia vs mame performance is basically a tradeoff of slowdown accuracy vs lower input lag respectively. its very much a pick your poison since there is little, if any, slowdown via mame but via xenia the latency makes the game nigh unplayable given its demand for precision
@@spade1444 Thanks for the answears! 1. Yeah, that makes perfect sense. I guess i'm asking cuz i've heard a lot of people say that Espgaluda 2/Ketsui 1 all are the hardest Cave 1 loop clears, but SDOJ looks harder to me (I'm yet to clear Espgaluda 2 tho) 3. That's intresting. I thought that you could get the slowdown to be at least somewhat accurate by tinkering with some blitter settings. Either way, seems like Mame is the way to go for me
Super glad to hear that, thanks for watching and leaving a comment! 1. Its harder than DOJ or Ketsui. If you're comfortable with clearing those, you're ready to take on SDOJ. 2. I've only played this one for survival, but I can see how maximizing star items and hypers could be satisfying. 3. Afaik you can't get the slowdown to be accurate (even with blitter) and the audio quality sucks, but I played it this way and enjoyed it nonetheless :)
I’m so looking forward to the Switch release. Another incredible run, Hazy! Also…the creator of Battle Garegga called SDOJ too hard?! That’s intimidating haha :)
@ oh hah I’ve played it. The last time I gave it a go I played it for a period of maybe 2 nights and was making it to the stage 5 boss and I got so destroyed it sorta chased me away. I don’t think I really understand how to manage the rank. See, I’ve been playing shmups a long time but I always had a bad habit of playing a game for a night or two, thinking it’s impossible for me, and then moving on to a different game. I have to actually really focus on one game for some weeks to even stand a chance. But BG just feels like…more complex? Like honestly now that the bullets color can be changed I’d love to give it another try at some point but idk. The Saturn version was a straight no go for me I had such a hard time seeing the bullets.
I really never thought I could do any of these like for real until I actually started making progress when I really got into DOJ. And when I forced myself to focus on that one I guess things finally clicked. But I had to focus on it for two months. That’s why I didn’t wanna take a long break from Ketsui.
@@LittleBigKid707b Well, I think it was for several reasons but I initially built a computer a few years ago to play more modern stuff. I like that the Switch continues to consistently bet on local multiplayer and it has some exclusives that I would like to play like Smash, Metroid Prime remastered and Pokémon Mystery Dungeon Rescue Team DX. I don't rule out getting one but I find the platform I currently use quite comfortable and the price is definitely something to consider. Currently it's cheaper for me to get a second-hand PS4 than a Switch lite.
Don't be scared of this game if you're a novice. This version has different levels of difficulty and it's easier than it looks. I use more continues on Viper Phase 1 than on this, but they are both difficult to me for different reasons. I'm just saying don't be scared of this even though it's called "the hardest " It's fine for beginners for your first bullet hell shmup too. I know because I suck.
Have this one on Xbox but never really got into it. Idk why… maybe it was the input lag, maybe because I’m a casual shmupper. My favorite cave games are deathsmiles and futari. Love your haircut btw 😀
I wasn't all that excited initially, but the closer the release date gets the more hype I am. Not the biggest fan of DDP overall, but I love the clean, futuristic look of this one. Hopefully, it's not as hard as DOJ.
I've heard good things about Novice and Novice Expert in this version, maybe try starting there? There's also midboss/boss options in the practice mode. But yeah, nothing beats save states, unfortunately.
From what I understand, Live Wire just ports over the Xbox 360 versions that were originally done by others. I haven't had issues with their results so far (Mushi, DDP Resurrection and Espgaluda II), though I would prefer save states over practice modes. M2 would be ideal of course.
Switch only and no physical, boooooo. I don't understand why publishers would only release a bullet hell on Switch when it has the highest input lag of any modern console. Definitely nice to see it making it off the 360 but would be much better off being ported to other platforms
From what I understand, the popularity of Switch in Japan is what makes these niche ports even remotely financially viable. But yes, it is unfortunate...
It is, but because of slightly larger hitbox you have to be quite precise and deliberate. No getting lucky by going through sheer bullet walls like in something like Ketsui :)
I already loved your channel but you deciding to use the Garfield version instead of the boring anime girls has raised your stock even more, thanks for being awesome
a-s is good in doj. it bullies everything in its path with its shots and can easily macro. it only suffers in the last two stages which is compensated for with how many bombs you get cave and character design: name a worse duo
quite amused by the presence of comments unironically defending the character design and creep shit in the game... they are in the wrong channel altogether ain't they. not like you said a whole lot about it in the video either...
It's just sad how normalized this kind of stuff is in shmups. You create a masterpiece and them you slather it over with... I can't even describe what it is without YT sounding its "offensive content" alarm, and that should tell you something.
Hazy, I've got questions! Does this version of the game have accurate slowdown? Also were you able to use it in the Retroarch MAME or FBNeo cores? If so it's probably the optimal way to play since PS4 and definitely Switch ports always have more input lag.
I don't think it does, though I've only played it on vanilla mame with tweaked blitter/cpu. Not ideal, but then no way of playing this game seems to be, sadly... Still fun and clearable :)
this is an amazing way of finding out that sdoj is gonna get a switch port, god bless it won't be stuck on the 360 anymore
I love finding new to me YT channels with high quality content relating to my hyper-niche interests!
I was shocked to see your sub count, with this level of quality I’m sure it’s only a matter of time before things pop.
Keep up the great work! I’m looking forward to going through your other vids :o)
Appreciate the kind words, thanks
I just wanna say I really appreciate your videos. This is such a niche subgenre but the fanbase is passionate and I selfishly wish you all the success so we can continue to get great content from you.
Thank you! 💖
Glad it is being (re)released. But man, this one really deserved the M2-treatment. Quality video as always, hazylevels - and mad skillz.
It's crazy to think this came out *after* Crimzon Clover
Reminds me of how Jill from Resident Evil has a 2D sprite in MvC2. Feels weirdly anachronistic
I was today years old when I learned this lol
Thanks so much for this. Such a funny commentary as well 🙇♂️
Your 1cc of Daioujou helped me 1cc that game too. Looking forward to SaiDaioujou!
Thank you so much for this video! The tips and gameplay are so helpful for this tough game.
Awesome content! Thanks a lot for explaining all the details on how to play, I always get a little bit confused on this game.
So excited to check this whole video out! Nice to hear the positive things you have to say about SDOJ, I feel like it gets a bad rap in the west for some reason (mostly by people who seemingly have never played it). Excited to build my skills with your tips and try for a new ship clear!
Thanks for the enthusiasm as always! The video is geared towards new players and I'm not an expert on this game, but hopefully it's still a fun watch for you even if you've already cleared it :) and yeah, I have no idea why sdoj is so looked down upon! Imo it's S-tier bullet hell.
The Garfield and Knuckles constantly popping up in the top-right speaking Japanese is something special. 😂
I unironically love it.
I can't believe we're finally getting a port
Thank youuuuu! We need more cave shmup tutorials!
I was never able to get into SDOJ because it feels so much harder than it looks like it should be, and for me a cornerstone of ideal shmup design is the opposite effect where the game makes you feel like a million bucks for getting through something of the same effective difficulty. I wonder if that sort of thing is where Yagawa's perspective comes from as well. This definitely convinced me to give it another chance though, if the Switch port has good input lag numbers I'll for sure pick it up!
I can understand that, and iirc Ikeda said they erred on the side of it being too difficult (since they felt like it would be their last game and they wanted it to feel "ultimate"). As I say in the video, there's definitely a hump that you have to overcome. If you like other Cave stuff, I'd say it's worth it giving it a second look! But if it's just not for you, that's okay too :)
@@hazylevels Yeah it seems like the kind of game where you need to get a feel for how it wants you to play and then it starts to click and feel really rewarding. I look forward to digging into it
@@Yakkers It feels deceptively difficult for a Cave Shump. On paper it should be a little easier than games like Mushihimesama Futari because of less bullet density but the hitbox feels way bigger than the original Daioujou so I just keep getting clipped by stray bullets. Maybe its just a skill issue but I do wish the hitbox was a little smaller, something about as small as Daioujou would be ideal
That's my viewing lined up for tonight's dinner. Nice one. 👍🏼
Really wish all of these ports came onto PC.....
Thanks, Hazy, and great news as I play shmups only on Switch 😊
Thank you for this guided walkthrough! I bought SDOJ yesterday on switch and I couldn't for the life of me get more lives and I would just die at the midboss in stage 3, in novice I couldn't get past stage 4 too lol
I'll try to memorize the hyper strat with the bomb combinations
Hope it turns out well... Great video as always, hazylevels
Sweet clear with Knuckles!
SDOJ is like DOJ in a neon edm concert with a faster pace lol. I absolutely love the presentation, the music, and more laxed scoring system. But holy hell it's scary AF. I never owned 360 so my first time playing it was on the hack. I'm so excited to finally properly play it on Switch.
Looove your description of Saidaioujou. It's scary for sure, but planning bombs and hyper bullet cancels helps a ton. Good luck and Knuckles ftw!
@@hazylevels I always use Dinosaur (Type B) just because I like green 😂. But I'll have to try Type A some time since I mostly see clears with that ship.
Should I ever go for the arcade mode, this is going to be a really helpful resource! For now the regular novice mode (not expert) is keeping me on edge, but I am confident I get my 1cc this week :)
Nice, good luck with your clear!
Hopefully limited run does a physical copy of this, Great video. I wish I could play as good as you at this game.
Great video as always! This is my first time leaving a comment, but discovering your channel earlier this year rekindled my love for shmups, and i really appreciate that! Nice to see you covering SDOJ too, since no one seems to talk about it for some reason. I have a couple of questions about the game:
First: How hard is it compared to DOJ? I've heard people say that they are similar difficulty wise, but as someone who can consistently clear DOJ, SDOJ looks crazy
Second: I usually don't care about score, but there's something addicting about scoring in DOJ that always keeps me going back to improve. Is that the case with SDOJ?
Third: How well does it run in MAME? sadly, i'm a keyboard player, so emulation is the way to go for me (Still buying it on Switch to show support tho!)
1. it's much harder. it's probably the hardest "easiest clear" in a cave game if that makes any sense
3. xenia vs mame performance is basically a tradeoff of slowdown accuracy vs lower input lag respectively. its very much a pick your poison since there is little, if any, slowdown via mame but via xenia the latency makes the game nigh unplayable given its demand for precision
@@spade1444 Thanks for the answears!
1. Yeah, that makes perfect sense. I guess i'm asking cuz i've heard a lot of people say that Espgaluda 2/Ketsui 1 all are the hardest Cave 1 loop clears, but SDOJ looks harder to me (I'm yet to clear Espgaluda 2 tho)
3. That's intresting. I thought that you could get the slowdown to be at least somewhat accurate by tinkering with some blitter settings. Either way, seems like Mame is the way to go for me
Super glad to hear that, thanks for watching and leaving a comment!
1. Its harder than DOJ or Ketsui. If you're comfortable with clearing those, you're ready to take on SDOJ.
2. I've only played this one for survival, but I can see how maximizing star items and hypers could be satisfying.
3. Afaik you can't get the slowdown to be accurate (even with blitter) and the audio quality sucks, but I played it this way and enjoyed it nonetheless :)
I hope this also comes out on steam. Would love this on my arcade cabinet
that's a very intense haircut, but i kinda love it
I've been waiting for this one for a while, but, damn, does it look intimidating.
It's easy
It's not easy, but very rewarding!
I’m so looking forward to the Switch release. Another incredible run, Hazy! Also…the creator of Battle Garegga called SDOJ too hard?! That’s intimidating haha :)
Makes sense considering it's like the opposite of Yagawa games in design :)
@ Well I hope that’s why he thought so, cause I think Battle Garegga is out of my league. Hah!
Just curious, have you tried getting into Garegga or are you going by reputation alone?
@ oh hah I’ve played it. The last time I gave it a go I played it for a period of maybe 2 nights and was making it to the stage 5 boss and I got so destroyed it sorta chased me away. I don’t think I really understand how to manage the rank. See, I’ve been playing shmups a long time but I always had a bad habit of playing a game for a night or two, thinking it’s impossible for me, and then moving on to a different game. I have to actually really focus on one game for some weeks to even stand a chance. But BG just feels like…more complex? Like honestly now that the bullets color can be changed I’d love to give it another try at some point but idk. The Saturn version was a straight no go for me I had such a hard time seeing the bullets.
I really never thought I could do any of these like for real until I actually started making progress when I really got into DOJ. And when I forced myself to focus on that one I guess things finally clicked. But I had to focus on it for two months. That’s why I didn’t wanna take a long break from Ketsui.
Great clear!
Thanks for the breaking news hazy! 😭😍
hopefully we get physical release also
I don't have a Switch yet but my body is ready!
If it's a money thing, I totally understand not having a Switch, but otherwise how have you not had one after all these years of amazing Switch games?
@@LittleBigKid707b Well, I think it was for several reasons but I initially built a computer a few years ago to play more modern stuff.
I like that the Switch continues to consistently bet on local multiplayer and it has some exclusives that I would like to play like Smash, Metroid Prime remastered and Pokémon Mystery Dungeon Rescue Team DX.
I don't rule out getting one but I find the platform I currently use quite comfortable and the price is definitely something to consider. Currently it's cheaper for me to get a second-hand PS4 than a Switch lite.
@@LittleBigKid707bsteam has more games than a human can physically play, and thats before even dipping into the emulation rabbit hole. That's how
Don't be scared of this game if you're a novice. This version has different levels of difficulty and it's easier than it looks. I use more continues on Viper Phase 1 than on this, but they are both difficult to me for different reasons. I'm just saying don't be scared of this even though it's called "the hardest " It's fine for beginners for your first bullet hell shmup too. I know because I suck.
Have this one on Xbox but never really got into it. Idk why… maybe it was the input lag, maybe because I’m a casual shmupper. My favorite cave games are deathsmiles and futari.
Love your haircut btw 😀
Nice vid- they have been warned!! How do you emulate the slowdown in the ROM?
You fiddle with blitter/cpu settings, but afaik there is no way of getting it perfect, unfortunately.
I'm glad my room isn't hacked. I play the 360 port on Xenia canary though at 480i like markmsx said was better.
if yagawa says "its way too hard", then something is WAY TOO HARD!
Tbh he shouldn't be saying that after all the games he developed 🤠 but I guess straight up danmaku is harder for him than Garegga style shenanigans...
I wasn't all that excited initially, but the closer the release date gets the more hype I am. Not the biggest fan of DDP overall, but I love the clean, futuristic look of this one. Hopefully, it's not as hard as DOJ.
It's harder, but also super satisfying once you get into the groove!
I just got it on Switch, and it is indeed hard, like right off the bat, too. Going to be hard without save states for practice...
I've heard good things about Novice and Novice Expert in this version, maybe try starting there? There's also midboss/boss options in the practice mode. But yeah, nothing beats save states, unfortunately.
@@thefractalcactusthere's training modes and a novice mode just don't choose any of the bikinis on the girls or you'll be in for a hellish ride
Ryo Nagi is very well known and beloved, ultra experienced character designer in japan. Literally what's the issue? Seriously..
Too sexualized, too young, and you undress them in expert mode.
Why do Japanese devs hate Steam 🤣
PC is not that popular in Japan.
@@Astrotech1054 neither is making money, apparently
7:44 What a weird thing to bring up. Its just anime girls dude, wtf 😂
Old man yell at clouds moment
hi, have you played Angel at Dusk? its a very insteresting shmup
I know it, but haven't played it myself!
for some reason none of the livewire ports have been available on the switch store in canada recently. anyone know why?
Just a quick question. If I already own Resurrection, is Saidaioujou still worth a purchase?
If you want to play another game in the series, yes. If you're still exploring Resurrection, no rush.
Wished M2 was making the port. How’s the live wire ports for shooters so far? I haven’t picked up any of their ports.
From what I understand, Live Wire just ports over the Xbox 360 versions that were originally done by others. I haven't had issues with their results so far (Mushi, DDP Resurrection and Espgaluda II), though I would prefer save states over practice modes. M2 would be ideal of course.
How is the input lag? Improved over the xbox 360 Port?
The Switch version isn't out yet, this is just a general 1cc oriented guide video :)
@@hazylevels lol, yeah your absolutely right. Did not think before writing :D
Switch only and no physical, boooooo. I don't understand why publishers would only release a bullet hell on Switch when it has the highest input lag of any modern console. Definitely nice to see it making it off the 360 but would be much better off being ported to other platforms
From what I understand, the popularity of Switch in Japan is what makes these niche ports even remotely financially viable. But yes, it is unfortunate...
@@hazylevels That makes sense, with any luck the Switch 2 will have reduced input lag and all these games should be playable on there
So this is not a game for micro dodging? Because of the bullet patterns? Only managed to 1cc this game in novice mode easy at the moment 😂
It is, but because of slightly larger hitbox you have to be quite precise and deliberate. No getting lucky by going through sheer bullet walls like in something like Ketsui :)
I hear that Finnish is real hard to learn. Is that true?
I hope a physical release will happen
You can bet there will be one. All the other Cave games have had a physical on Switch, so It's a safe bet to say this will very likely have one too.
Day 1 !
where steam release do they not want money
I already loved your channel but you deciding to use the Garfield version instead of the boring anime girls has raised your stock even more, thanks for being awesome
Garfield Label is the true way to play 😌
a-s is good in doj. it bullies everything in its path with its shots and can easily macro. it only suffers in the last two stages which is compensated for with how many bombs you get
cave and character design: name a worse duo
Mano, que cabelo horrível.
Abraços!
quite amused by the presence of comments unironically defending the character design and creep shit in the game... they are in the wrong channel altogether ain't they. not like you said a whole lot about it in the video either...
It's just sad how normalized this kind of stuff is in shmups. You create a masterpiece and them you slather it over with... I can't even describe what it is without YT sounding its "offensive content" alarm, and that should tell you something.
@@hazylevels the anime scene is just rotten. unfortunately something you gotta deal with if you really like bullet hells or jrpgs like i do.
I'm glad somebody else feels uncomfortable with the creepbait character designs of SDOJ.
It's literally normal character design though. Maybe stop being the creep.
@astrea555 Saya is clearly a sexualized child. I'm just calling a spoon a spoon.
It's such a shame with how good everything else is.
@@astrea555 it’s really basic and generic, even leaving aside any questions of creepiness.
You look like you lost a bet
Hazy, I've got questions! Does this version of the game have accurate slowdown? Also were you able to use it in the Retroarch MAME or FBNeo cores? If so it's probably the optimal way to play since PS4 and definitely Switch ports always have more input lag.
I don't think it does, though I've only played it on vanilla mame with tweaked blitter/cpu. Not ideal, but then no way of playing this game seems to be, sadly... Still fun and clearable :)