Maybe for one part of the melody, yeah thus could totally be just a motif. But the fact that Dialtone is entirely made from the world revolving just kinda makes me think that there's a bigger connection between Spamton and Jevil besides both being short, memeable bosses
Maybe for one part of the melody, yeah thus could totally be just a motif. But the fact that Dialtone is entirely made from the world revolving just kinda makes me think that there's a bigger connection between Spamton and Jevil besides both being short, memeable bosses
@@gxv4078 I think it's going to be a connection with the secret bosses. My theory is that they will all be connected in some way we don't know about yet, and all will have communicated with who we assume will be Gaster.
@@micahlehrke9 I think they will be all linked by being things that are generally discarded. Jevil is the Joker card, which is always discarded from the deck before the cards are dealt. Spamton is spam mail, which people over the age of 9 and under the age of 70 generally ignore or "discard". The secret boss of Chapter 3 will likely be the flowers Asgore told you to give to Toriel, because she threw them in the trash, discarding them. Likewise, the final secret boss could possibly be the vessel you made at the start of Chapter 1, as it said that the vessel would "now be discarded."
This has got to be one of the most versatile little tunes Toby Fox has ever written, similar to once upon a time and don't forget, it's super happy and upbeat in World revolving, and then creepy and sad in dial tone.
This leitmotif is related to characters which somewhat relate to "freedom" its most likely that its the leitmotif of every single Deltarune secret boss (also in the future chapters) and also propably the knight but i'm not sure about that one. For now we can call it the leitmotif of The World Revolving but we should start calling it the "freedom" leitmotif
I wouldn't use this name in this particular case cause the supposed "freedom" theme in TWR are the B and C parts (they are in Dialtone and BIG SHOT), but The Chase and The Door ( Nightmare Knight by extension) all use the A part.
@@sebaq I gotta bet one of these is probably some sort of foreshadowing, so it is pretty hard to come up with appropriate name, considering we don't have the full picture
I think the "A" part of the motif actually originates from "Nightmare Knight" as opposed to TWR, while the other one that people call the "Freedom" motif is a separate thing
According to the blog "notesanddreams", many of these The World Revolving themes contain the first three notes of Gaster's Theme, which may or may not be notable. I think they made some interesting connections about those first three notes and I haven't seen anyone else talk about it.
Probably a coincidence though since gasters theme goes down a note after 16 notes and none of these songs do Also the first four notes Also one note down from the world revolving would make it gasters theme Also the rythm is all wrong so it’s basically like saying you can hear heartache in that one waterfall theme I can’t remember what it’s called
Hearing bits of The World Revolving in Spamton's themes is what made me remember "oh yeah Jevil isn't an insane boss that was scientifically crafted for the very very end of DeltaRune he was just a huge part of Chapter 1" Probably felt that way because having only 1 Chapter of DeltaRune for 2 years made Jevil feel like a much more major endgame type character (He could still be pretty important in future Chapters though) shoutouts to Nightmare Knight for using instruments from Kirby's Dream Land 3 by the way I'm a huge fan of the song solely because of my Kirby bias
I still believe Jevil will play a key part in later chapters as he is still alive in the form of the Jevils knife/ tail. Not only that but he is also powerful since he can sense Noels power and what she is capable of. It is also important to mention that unlike other characters from chapter one, Jevil does not turn to stone upon entering another dark world further deepening the mystery behind his origins. One more note is to pay attention to Seam I reckon he knows everything and will most likely be a key part in uncovering the origins behind Jevil who in my opinion will be the key to the entire law of the game
@@BadLuckBoi what a coincidence that Kirby dream land 3 and DELTARUNE both games are about fighting darkness and Jevil looks like a Marx ruclips.net/video/smSfQZX-Zsw/видео.html
Man, is little things like the leitmotifs that connect everything with anything in undertale/deltarune The world revolving sounding in BIG SHOT just resembles the little connections both Jevil and spamtom have with each other: -They're both secret bosses -Both are related to freedom, while at the same time reminding kris what freedom could do to him -They're both....crazy somehow -And they both have way more knowledge about the world around them than you could imagine BIG SHOT also has a part of the song Power of NEO, since Spamtom looks like Mettaton NEO and well, his is Spamtom NEO Honestly, I could write a really, REALLY LONG comment on all the leitmotifs and their connections and meanings, but that would be too much, the point is: I love music.
Spamton isn’t really a secret boss he has a route where you have to fight him while jevil you don’t have to fight in either of routes like pascifist or genecide
@@DemiIsNotHere The Dummy! leitmotif makes more of a reference to the fact that Spamton and the Dummy are both nothing more than puppets, stuck without any real control or freedom, and both are discarded, forgotten things.
I don’t think this is necessarily “the world revolving leitmotif”, but instead just a general secret boss leitmotif. It’s become pretty clear that deltarune will have some sort of secret boss for every chapter who wishes for freedom in some form and is related to gaster and/or the knight
I think that they are more in relation to Gaster than the Knight. Mainly because Spamton NEO and Seam directly reference Gaster (Seam says that his vision of the world has become darker, yet darker, and Spamton NEO tells Kris that he wants both of them to be 'VERY VERY BIG'.
However, Spamton does get worried speaking about the Knight. He gets silently told by something to stop speaking about it, as he says "Did you know that the Knight..." before apologising refusely and in a very intimidated manner.
Well... I mean, we can't really tell if those are "world revolving" leitmotifs. As far as we know, they may easily be like "jevil", "insanity", "Knight" leitmotifs.
Tbh, I personally refer to the leitmotif shared between all these songs as "Crackling Freedom", since both Jevil and Spamton have had the flavor text "the air crackles with freedom...!" show up during their "secret boss" battles. In fact, I'm thinking that there will actually be a track with that approximate name later on, probably while fighting The Knight...?
I'm betting that if we ever do fight The Knight, that they'll have a flavor text in their fight of "Freedom arcs through the air" or another such "step up" from the common flavor that Spamton and Jevil have.
The bit of Don't Forget that makes up part of The World Revolving also shows up as the overture that plays whenever you're getting ready to seal a dark fountain.
@@leonannaves9273 People use "Freedom" because it's something Jevil and Spamton have in common, but "Secret Boss" is also valid. ("The air crackles with freedom")
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@@leonannaves9273 Actually freedom has something to do with the secret bosses’s lore.
I find it very interesting that the themes most closely related to Ralsei's Dark World have that leitmotif, considering it's probably the secret boss leitmotif.
i definitely hear it in Chase and Door. i really like the idea of it being the Vessel Motif, being used for Kris, Jevil, Spamton, and probably the next secret bosses
The World Revolving: if nothing matters, why not get some extra dopamine? Dialtone: If nothing matters why am I subject to the torture of existence. Big Shot: If nothing matters it doesn’t matter that nothing matters, so let’s profit why we’re alive. Gotta go get that bread.
More accurately, you're hearing the last bit of Don't Forget ("I'm with you in the dark") in the ending segment of TWR. Don't Forget is a tune heard in several songs of Deltarune's OST.
Well, bonus bosses' themes have a lot of motifs. The Circus (which I think is more of a motif than THE WORLD REVOLVING) can be heard in some Jevil and Spamton tracks - Dialtone is the best example, but it's also the main motif of THE WORLD REVOLVING. BIG SHOT has so many motifs - Spamton, THE WORLD REVOLVING, Power Of NEO, Ghost Fight and Dummy!. You can also hear The Legend motif in Jevil battle theme, just like in The Chase.
I'd argue that leitmotif B is just going to be a recurring theme in ALL of the secret bosses, and we only associate it with Jevil because we heard his theme first. but that's just speculation for future events.
I'm gonna bet that Toby might use the leitmotif of TWR in Big Shot to every secret bosses too (if it's still about "Freedom"). Like the leitmotif that shows their connection to each other.
Nightmare Knight sounds much more like an early version of The Legend to me (and some other bits sound more like Amalgam). Cool to see how Toby reuses the same similar sorts of things throughout his work!
I think you should tackle Final Fantasy tracks too. There's so many connected songs in Nobuo Uematsu's works, and it's always good to pay homage to the classics.
I think every Chapter has a similarity in the Bonus Boss, being at the basement of the last area(Card Kingdom and Queen's Mansion), is hard, has that one part in The World Revolving and plays their prelude themes.
If you're going to include Nightmare Knight, I think it's important to mention that 0:38 in The World Revolving sounds similar to both a part in Nightmare Knight, and the end of Attack of the Killer Queen! Specifically TWR motif 5. 4:00 Knew it continued there, though wondered for a bit why I could only pick it up clearly on working headphones. Love how it uses the CORE synth too, another connection to Mettaton! 6:35 Oh never realized the pan flue plays that motif again, good ear.
Those bonus ones could possibly be a leitmotif of something we have yet to get to, possibly in reference to the knight that we have yet to see at all since two of them have to do with the introduction to the dark world and the final one having the word "knight" in it. As a far more out there theory, considering this is also in a strong part of the world revolving it could possibly tie the secret bosses together with the knight. Even MORE out there though is slapping on all the stuff pointing to gaster in some way being a strong role in the story that may only be revealed should the player hunt down all the secret bosses
It's curious that Toby Fox has already reused a melody from another Cucumber Quest song for Death By Glamour, a name so crazy to think that he used this melody too, especially with that name
What if this is actually the knight theme and after jevil and Spamton meet them and start going crazy is when the leitmotif appears in their respective theme and that's why we also hear it in Spamton theme?
We need a full version of The Chase with the motif. It harmonizes just enough to tickle my OCD, and doesn't just enough to sound twisted af. Feels like the plan is going off the rails and you're having to improvise.
1:44 For reasons having to do with obtuse Spotify settings, my brain expected this to be immediately followed by "CLOTHES!" The air crackles with freedom
1:44 The 4/4 version sounds a lot like the "up and down" background in The World Revolving as well, so I feel like the whole thing could be considered to have a TWR motif. 3:03 I think the yellow part ended too early here.
This is sort of unrelated, but after listening to “The Door” I thought I heard the opening to “Your Best Nightmare”. I know it’s used in “Digital Roots” and “Vs Susie”, and I wonder if it’s anywhere else. It is interesting that the theme is used, granted it could just be Toby being Toby and reusing a spooky sounding track and it probably is, but I do have to wonder if there are any actual implications for using this leitmotif?
Just as Toby reused some old tracks like Megalovania, I think (at least partially) Toby will reused parts of Nightmare Knight for the Knight's battle theme. Mayhaps he could rename it "Knightmare."
People thinking the motif is exclusively in reference to Jevil. Here I am just on lookout for it sneaking it’s way into the rest of these special encounters as a commonality tethering them all together. Or Fox simply had a jingle so versatile he’s gonna milk that cow as much as he can 👌
Ok so I've had this theory that all the secret bosses will use this melody in some way, which is why I call it the freedom motif. The only thing that goes against this theory is that big shot doesn't use the same melody from the world revolving as the other songs do. (BTW the chase and the door can be explained by toby just sometimes doing that. Like, it's the same as how dog bass and spider dance both use a leitmotifs usually reserved for ghosts)
Dialtone is actually a huge leitmotif for "the circus" play them side by side in the right way and the rhythym will sound nearly exactly the same. And even though I didn't think it was at all I now definitely realize that The Chase is a The world revolving leitmotif
You should do a video on the leitmotiv found in The Circus (the rhythm one, instead of the melody), also found in Dialtone, Lantern and possibly others but I haven't paid attention. I thought I heard it in Giga Size but when I listened to it I coudn't, so either it was my imagination, or it was in another song
I like The World Revolving because it's catchy and gives the vibes of "good vs evil" My favorite type of villain is the fancy one that has a good charisma kinda like Queen, Lancer, Flowey Papyrus (he's not a villain but kind of our rival) Doofenshmirtz or Joker, They aren't entirely dumb, they are just crazy and clever. They are a high threat but you just can't dislike them. And that's exactly how Jevil is (and most of the antagonists in DR so far and UT).
Theorist will point to this as proof that everything involves gaster in some way Of course it fuckn would, he’s a nonexistent existent entity stuck in the void
Missed opportunity to change the heart to jevil's face, and make Jevil look like he's smiling (when he like throws the mini Spades at you) when the leitmotif plays
6 songs huh? The fact that the world revolving is in spamtons theme (another secret boss) makes me believe that secret bosses in later chapters will use it as well.
probably late but my theory is all the Shadow Crystal unlocks and fights will have the world revolving part in it so its not really the world revolving just the Shadow Crystal theme or whatever.
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I like the name "freedom" for this leitmotif, it fits so well for both Jevil and Spamtom.
Maybe for one part of the melody, yeah thus could totally be just a motif. But the fact that Dialtone is entirely made from the world revolving just kinda makes me think that there's a bigger connection between Spamton and Jevil besides both being short, memeable bosses
Maybe for one part of the melody, yeah thus could totally be just a motif. But the fact that Dialtone is entirely made from the world revolving just kinda makes me think that there's a bigger connection between Spamton and Jevil besides both being short, memeable bosses
@@gxv4078 I think it's going to be a connection with the secret bosses. My theory is that they will all be connected in some way we don't know about yet, and all will have communicated with who we assume will be Gaster.
@@gxv4078 I mean given that Dialtone lines up perfectly with The Circus, I'm thinking this is just going to be a trend between the secret bosses.
@@micahlehrke9 I think they will be all linked by being things that are generally discarded. Jevil is the Joker card, which is always discarded from the deck before the cards are dealt. Spamton is spam mail, which people over the age of 9 and under the age of 70 generally ignore or "discard". The secret boss of Chapter 3 will likely be the flowers Asgore told you to give to Toriel, because she threw them in the trash, discarding them. Likewise, the final secret boss could possibly be the vessel you made at the start of Chapter 1, as it said that the vessel would "now be discarded."
This has got to be one of the most versatile little tunes Toby Fox has ever written, similar to once upon a time and don't forget, it's super happy and upbeat in World revolving, and then creepy and sad in dial tone.
Its not completely happy and upbeat, yes its upbeat indeed, but you feel like something is missing...
also Gaster's Theme, being just a repeating four note melody that's found literally everywhere, probably because Gaster is literally everywhere
Why is this line so familiar ? ( I am so sure I heard it from somewhere but I can’t think of it )
@@mossystabbyboi9710I think one of the gaster followers in undertale says it
@@bobfruck Gaster's theme can actually be heard in the Freedom Motif
the fact that 'nightmare knight' sounds like something from Kirby makes me happy
Yup probably intentional given the tone and inspirations of cucumber quest
@@Lonewulf321 true true
kinda sounds like "Empty Town"
@@skrbidi yeah! i can hear that lol
thats what i was thinking
This leitmotif is related to characters which somewhat relate to "freedom" its most likely that its the leitmotif of every single Deltarune secret boss (also in the future chapters) and also propably the knight but i'm not sure about that one. For now we can call it the leitmotif of The World Revolving but we should start calling it the "freedom" leitmotif
I wouldn't use this name in this particular case cause the supposed "freedom" theme in TWR are the B and C parts (they are in Dialtone and BIG SHOT), but The Chase and The Door ( Nightmare Knight by extension) all use the A part.
@@elaimaro122 i guess only chapter 3-7 can solve this, maybe its just spamton and jevil being related in some way
But that's a good argument
@@sebaq I gotta bet one of these is probably some sort of foreshadowing, so it is pretty hard to come up with appropriate name, considering we don't have the full picture
I've seen others calling it this aswell
I just hope it's not lumped in with the nightmare knight leitmotif just because it's in the world revolving
I think the "A" part of the motif actually originates from "Nightmare Knight" as opposed to TWR, while the other one that people call the "Freedom" motif is a separate thing
You think it originates from Nightmare Knight because it does
(Even thought it was a coincidence)
Nightmare Knight also sounds very similar to "Amalgam" from UNDERTALE, so I wouldn't be surprised.
@@DaNuthee ah good to know
@@DaNuthee Toby Fox just made one track and now jumbles it in order to make OST for his games.
Perfect, yes
Nice video! But I think "The Chase" and "The Door" sounds more like the main melody from "The Legend" A.K.A Ralsei singing
Added this to my Ralsus list
@@tailpig6417 Ralsus
@@tailpig6417 When the Ralsauce is sauce
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I really don't think so
According to the blog "notesanddreams", many of these The World Revolving themes contain the first three notes of Gaster's Theme, which may or may not be notable. I think they made some interesting connections about those first three notes and I haven't seen anyone else talk about it.
Cool blog. Glad to have confirmation that the pattern of those notes is meaningful and not just vaguely similar.
My money is on the notes being E G G
@@TheKyubiisaan Maybe! Minor third's a common interval, but maybe those deknightful notes are something to look out for.
@@TheKyubiisaan Egg?
Probably a coincidence though since gasters theme goes down a note after 16 notes and none of these songs do
Also the first four notes
Also one note down from the world revolving would make it gasters theme
Also the rythm is all wrong so it’s basically like saying you can hear heartache in that one waterfall theme I can’t remember what it’s called
Hearing bits of The World Revolving in Spamton's themes is what made me remember "oh yeah Jevil isn't an insane boss that was scientifically crafted for the very very end of DeltaRune he was just a huge part of Chapter 1"
Probably felt that way because having only 1 Chapter of DeltaRune for 2 years made Jevil feel like a much more major endgame type character (He could still be pretty important in future Chapters though)
shoutouts to Nightmare Knight for using instruments from Kirby's Dream Land 3 by the way I'm a huge fan of the song solely because of my Kirby bias
what a coincidence I also love THE WORLD REVOLVING and Nightmare Knight because they use instruments from Kirby Dream land 3 I am a big fan of Kirby
I still believe Jevil will play a key part in later chapters as he is still alive in the form of the Jevils knife/ tail. Not only that but he is also powerful since he can sense Noels power and what she is capable of.
It is also important to mention that unlike other characters from chapter one, Jevil does not turn to stone upon entering another dark world further deepening the mystery behind his origins.
One more note is to pay attention to Seam I reckon he knows everything and will most likely be a key part in uncovering the origins behind Jevil who in my opinion will be the key to the entire law of the game
@@BadLuckBoi what a coincidence that Kirby dream land 3 and DELTARUNE both games are about fighting darkness and Jevil looks like a Marx
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Ok I’m thinking evil is mike but just under a new name
YES! Love NK's Kirby vibes. :)
Man, is little things like the leitmotifs that connect everything with anything in undertale/deltarune
The world revolving sounding in BIG SHOT just resembles the little connections both Jevil and spamtom have with each other:
-They're both secret bosses
-Both are related to freedom, while at the same time reminding kris what freedom could do to him
-They're both....crazy somehow
-And they both have way more knowledge about the world around them than you could imagine
BIG SHOT also has a part of the song Power of NEO, since Spamtom looks like Mettaton NEO and well, his is Spamtom NEO
Honestly, I could write a really, REALLY LONG comment on all the leitmotifs and their connections and meanings, but that would be too much, the point is:
I love music.
Spamton isn’t really a secret boss he has a route where you have to fight him while jevil you don’t have to fight in either of routes like pascifist or genecide
@@marcosrangel2988 it is somewhat out of the way, just that you can't avoid that initial encounter which makes him much more involved
Also has a Dummy leitmotif, that makes a connection with ghosts, and a bigger connection with Mettaton.
@@DemiIsNotHere The Dummy! leitmotif makes more of a reference to the fact that Spamton and the Dummy are both nothing more than puppets, stuck without any real control or freedom, and both are discarded, forgotten things.
I don’t think this is necessarily “the world revolving leitmotif”, but instead just a general secret boss leitmotif. It’s become pretty clear that deltarune will have some sort of secret boss for every chapter who wishes for freedom in some form and is related to gaster and/or the knight
I think that they are more in relation to Gaster than the Knight. Mainly because Spamton NEO and Seam directly reference Gaster (Seam says that his vision of the world has become darker, yet darker, and Spamton NEO tells Kris that he wants both of them to be 'VERY VERY BIG'.
However, Spamton does get worried speaking about the Knight. He gets silently told by something to stop speaking about it, as he says "Did you know that the Knight..." before apologising refusely and in a very intimidated manner.
The knight is probably Alvin for some ppl because Alvin is a priest and Spamton said communion
The Circus alone appears in Dialtone, aswell as Lantern and Hometown! it's often overlooked sadly
But its just the bassline of the legend
Lantern make sense since the past of Seam and Jevil
Well... I mean, we can't really tell if those are "world revolving" leitmotifs. As far as we know, they may easily be like "jevil", "insanity", "Knight" leitmotifs.
i mean, people call it the spear of justice motif and not the undyne motif
@@oliveoiI i call it Undyne Leitmotif
Well, that's true, we only know that B is the most plausible 'freedom'/secret boss fight motif
f r e e d o m
well shit now i'm gunna look out for this leitmotif in chapter 3 a lot more lmao
hopefully all the secret bosses going forward have it
You know I think jevil and spamton theme parts are going to be in the next secret boss theme
Tbh, I personally refer to the leitmotif shared between all these songs as "Crackling Freedom", since both Jevil and Spamton have had the flavor text "the air crackles with freedom...!" show up during their "secret boss" battles.
In fact, I'm thinking that there will actually be a track with that approximate name later on, probably while fighting The Knight...?
I'm betting that if we ever do fight The Knight, that they'll have a flavor text in their fight of "Freedom arcs through the air" or another such "step up" from the common flavor that Spamton and Jevil have.
The bit of Don't Forget that makes up part of The World Revolving also shows up as the overture that plays whenever you're getting ready to seal a dark fountain.
2 years late, but the "I'm with you in the dark" part is featured throughout at least half of the songs in the game
I think it's better to call it the "Freedom Leitmotif" now, nice vid tho, loving the content as always. ☆
For me it should be "secret boss" Leitmotif. Because freedom is a weird name for something
@@leonannaves9273
People use "Freedom" because it's something Jevil and Spamton have in common, but "Secret Boss" is also valid.
("The air crackles with freedom")
@@leonannaves9273 Actually freedom has something to do with the secret bosses’s lore.
@@gumagxstd2287 i know, i'm just saying its a weird name for a leitmotif
@ I KNOW, I'M JUST SAYING ITS A WEIRD NAME FOR A LEITMOTIF
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WHY IS THIS COMMENT ALL CAPS?????
this is better.
I find it very interesting that the themes most closely related to Ralsei's Dark World have that leitmotif, considering it's probably the secret boss leitmotif.
i definitely hear it in Chase and Door. i really like the idea of it being the Vessel Motif, being used for Kris, Jevil, Spamton, and probably the next secret bosses
The World Revolving: if nothing matters, why not get some extra dopamine?
Dialtone: If nothing matters why am I subject to the torture of existence.
Big Shot: If nothing matters it doesn’t matter that nothing matters, so let’s profit why we’re alive. Gotta go get that bread.
Am I the only one who also hears a bit of it in “Don’t Forget?”
Mainly at “I’m with you in the dark.”
@ThatZeoMan Hm. Must have missed it.
More accurately, you're hearing the last bit of Don't Forget ("I'm with you in the dark") in the ending segment of TWR. Don't Forget is a tune heard in several songs of Deltarune's OST.
I personally believe that the motif in ‘the door’ is actually just ‘the legend’, but I can hear it being the world revolving as well.
I like how it all toes up with Nightmare *Knight* at the end of the day, and i love that song so much
“Leitmotif can only be heard in left ear for big shot bear that in mind for people who have broken headphones”
My headphones: *broken in the right*
Part B and C of the world revolving lietmotif share a very similar section (0:21 and 1:07) thats probably gonna turn into the secret boss lietmotif
What an abstract way to tell people to hear toby's other original tracks, you could've just asked and i would glady do so.
Well, bonus bosses' themes have a lot of motifs. The Circus (which I think is more of a motif than THE WORLD REVOLVING) can be heard in some Jevil and Spamton tracks - Dialtone is the best example, but it's also the main motif of THE WORLD REVOLVING. BIG SHOT has so many motifs - Spamton, THE WORLD REVOLVING, Power Of NEO, Ghost Fight and Dummy!. You can also hear The Legend motif in Jevil battle theme, just like in The Chase.
The Legend and Don't Forget motifs are in most CH 1 soundtracks.
i hope to see the freedom leitmotif much more frequently ingame
I'd argue that leitmotif B is just going to be a recurring theme in ALL of the secret bosses, and we only associate it with Jevil because we heard his theme first. but that's just speculation for future events.
1:24 "THEY'RE WITH YOU IN THE DARK, DARK."
Nightmare Knight also reminds me of amalgam from the undertale ost
I'm gonna bet that Toby might use the leitmotif of TWR in Big Shot to every secret bosses too (if it's still about "Freedom"). Like the leitmotif that shows their connection to each other.
Loving the Kirby's Dreamland 3 sounfront for nightmare knight lol
Nightmare Knight sounds much more like an early version of The Legend to me (and some other bits sound more like Amalgam). Cool to see how Toby reuses the same similar sorts of things throughout his work!
I think you should tackle Final Fantasy tracks too. There's so many connected songs in Nobuo Uematsu's works, and it's always good to pay homage to the classics.
the one in big shot is probably the most noticable, I often don't even hear the main theme behind it
woah, never thought it was in that many songs! i only heard it in the secret boss themes and in dialtone
I think every Chapter has a similarity in the Bonus Boss, being at the basement of the last area(Card Kingdom and Queen's Mansion), is hard, has that one part in The World Revolving and plays their prelude themes.
I swear if Nightmare Knight ends up being present in The Knight fight I'll be super pumped up
“Nightmare knight” sounds a lot like the start of “amalgam” from undertale
If you're going to include Nightmare Knight, I think it's important to mention that 0:38 in The World Revolving sounds similar to both a part in Nightmare Knight, and the end of Attack of the Killer Queen! Specifically TWR motif 5.
4:00 Knew it continued there, though wondered for a bit why I could only pick it up clearly on working headphones. Love how it uses the CORE synth too, another connection to Mettaton!
6:35 Oh never realized the pan flue plays that motif again, good ear.
0:41 of the world revolving also sounds similar to the ending of attack of the killer queen
True
I made a reddit post about it i got 3 upvotes. And i commented and now everyone copies me
@@GigachadHGDYDBHDB i wasn't copying it, i didn't even know you commented it
i noticed this a long ago
Can't wait but also can't imagine the combo we will get in chapter 3.
Those bonus ones could possibly be a leitmotif of something we have yet to get to, possibly in reference to the knight that we have yet to see at all since two of them have to do with the introduction to the dark world and the final one having the word "knight" in it. As a far more out there theory, considering this is also in a strong part of the world revolving it could possibly tie the secret bosses together with the knight. Even MORE out there though is slapping on all the stuff pointing to gaster in some way being a strong role in the story that may only be revealed should the player hunt down all the secret bosses
Songs with My Castle Town? I love that melody
I Love how in big Shot the music and the Background gameplay sync For a part
So does that mean if we hear this leitmotif we can already assume that the guy we meet in a new chapter would be the Secret Boss
Toby is the MASTER of leitmotifs.
Like he could make a song with a leitmotfi that contains another leitmotif wiith a second leitmotif
Strange how many songs have that ending tone of Don't Forget
It's curious that Toby Fox has already reused a melody from another Cucumber Quest song for Death By Glamour, a name so crazy to think that he used this melody too, especially with that name
There is alot of proof that toby has only written about 15 songs but ya know what?
That don't matter they're all amazing
I'm hoping in like 1-2 years when the next 3 chapters come out that this whole world revolving reference in the music continues, it really adds to it
What if this is actually the knight theme and after jevil and Spamton meet them and start going crazy is when the leitmotif appears in their respective theme and that's why we also hear it in Spamton theme?
Writing comments really rarely, but
Creator of this video is so caring about his audience
Just wow
Thanks dude
I love the world revolving still, despite big shot and pandora palace are incredible songs, these 3 I mentioned are my top 3
HE (spamton) TOOK MY LIETMOTIF IN THE DIVORCE, DIVORCE!
Nightmare Knight... I wonder if "The Knight" in deltarune (seriously guys, it's not Kris) has anything that would be a callback to that.
We need a full version of The Chase with the motif. It harmonizes just enough to tickle my OCD, and doesn't just enough to sound twisted af. Feels like the plan is going off the rails and you're having to improvise.
1:44 For reasons having to do with obtuse Spotify settings, my brain expected this to be immediately followed by "CLOTHES!"
The air crackles with freedom
You make me want to play Deltarune again
1:44 The 4/4 version sounds a lot like the "up and down" background in The World Revolving as well, so I feel like the whole thing could be considered to have a TWR motif.
3:03 I think the yellow part ended too early here.
This is sort of unrelated, but after listening to “The Door” I thought I heard the opening to “Your Best Nightmare”. I know it’s used in “Digital Roots” and “Vs Susie”, and I wonder if it’s anywhere else. It is interesting that the theme is used, granted it could just be Toby being Toby and reusing a spooky sounding track and it probably is, but I do have to wonder if there are any actual implications for using this leitmotif?
If someone asks me how many times I can re-listen BIG SHOT I will answer - YES!
I think Nightmare Knight is using the King leitmotif, which is basically the Chase leitmotif but with more steps. :)
Just as Toby reused some old tracks like Megalovania, I think (at least partially) Toby will reused parts of Nightmare Knight for the Knight's battle theme. Mayhaps he could rename it "Knightmare."
I feel like the secret cheracters will be more and more explained with each chapter, slowly groing our knowledge of the stranger along the way
People thinking the motif is exclusively in reference to Jevil.
Here I am just on lookout for it sneaking it’s way into the rest of these special encounters as a commonality tethering them all together.
Or Fox simply had a jingle so versatile he’s gonna milk that cow as much as he can 👌
I consider the melody from The Chase to be its own thing - the Knight theme.
6:31 that part had no business being as good as it was
that Nightmare Knight soundfont, Jesus so many Kirby vibes
Songs with Empty Castle? I love that melody
Jevil: I HAVE NO CHOOSING! :D
Spamton: I have no choosing... :(
Ok so I've had this theory that all the secret bosses will use this melody in some way, which is why I call it the freedom motif. The only thing that goes against this theory is that big shot doesn't use the same melody from the world revolving as the other songs do. (BTW the chase and the door can be explained by toby just sometimes doing that. Like, it's the same as how dog bass and spider dance both use a leitmotifs usually reserved for ghosts)
Dialtone is actually a huge leitmotif for "the circus" play them side by side in the right way and the rhythym will sound nearly exactly the same. And even though I didn't think it was at all I now definitely realize that The Chase is a The world revolving leitmotif
The freedom leitmotif as I've heard people calling them
I've wondered for such a long time why people tend to call jevil the sans of deltarune
theres one in feild of hopes and dreams. it refrences the last part of world revolving
The song when toriel is driving to school sounds a little like world revolving
You should do a video on the leitmotiv found in The Circus (the rhythm one, instead of the melody), also found in Dialtone, Lantern and possibly others but I haven't paid attention. I thought I heard it in Giga Size but when I listened to it I coudn't, so either it was my imagination, or it was in another song
I like The World Revolving because it's catchy and gives the vibes of "good vs evil"
My favorite type of villain is the fancy one that has a good charisma kinda like Queen, Lancer, Flowey Papyrus (he's not a villain but kind of our rival)
Doofenshmirtz or Joker,
They aren't entirely dumb, they are just crazy and clever. They are a high threat but you just can't dislike them.
And that's exactly how Jevil is (and most of the antagonists in DR so far and UT).
I truly believe with all my heart that the B motif is Kris's theme.
Theorist will point to this as proof that everything involves gaster in some way
Of course it fuckn would, he’s a nonexistent existent entity stuck in the void
I personally think that C is just more of Don't Forget. It's definitely singable during that part.
I can’t be the only one who realizes dialtone is literally just the circus
It seems to me that Jevil went crazy because of the queen, because she wanted everyone to laugh evilly, and I think he was her first test subject ...
In attack of the killer queen, you can actually hear a part of it ad well
Ngl the Nightmare Knight thing could be in deltarune at some point. It fits with the lore, and could be good for a secret boss.
I didin't realise there is so many Jevil letimotifs 😯
Missed opportunity to change the heart to jevil's face, and make Jevil look like he's smiling (when he like throws the mini Spades at you) when the leitmotif plays
Wanna bet that the next secret boss gonna have a Big Shot leitmotif?
6 songs huh?
The fact that the world revolving is in spamtons theme (another secret boss) makes me believe that secret bosses in later chapters will use it as well.
So cool
You can also hear it in Pandora Palace and Attack of the Killer Queen at the end
WAIT THERES A DONT FORGET MOTIF IN THE WORLD REVOLVING AND I ONLY NOW JUST REALIZED???
THE WORLD REVOLVING HAS THE WORLD REVOLVING IN IT??!!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?
Plot twist
it’s also in Tough Guy Alert! on Mario & Luigi Bowsers Inside Story
edit: i mean the ost version, not in game.
I think what you call the "A" section is really just a different motif entirely
probably late but my theory is all the Shadow Crystal unlocks and fights will have the world revolving part in it so its not really the world revolving just the Shadow Crystal theme or whatever.
Knight's theme.
I think every secret boss will have the world revolving leitmotif in their music
I guess he really can do anything
i somewhat hear ralsei talking noise in nightmare knight out of the right ear (im wearing headphones) its probably a coincidence