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  • Опубликовано: 31 июл 2024
  • A detailed look at what is probably today's best-selling cassette tape player mechanism. Is it really THAT bad? Let's find out...
    Chapters Index:
    0:00 Introduction
    0:45 Original Tanashin design
    1:33 Mahogany Monsters
    2:18 Pyle PL5CSUB
    3:44 First test
    4:47 Fast-forward, but no rewind
    6:55 Direct hookup audio samples
    8:00 A look inside
    9:08 Mechanism design
    10:31 Belt & motor
    13:23 Mechanism in operation
    14:34 Undocumented feature
    14:59 Conclusion
    16:18 Outro music
    This video contains clips from ‪@Recordology‬'s review of the Victrola 8-in-1 system: • The Victrola 8-in-1! R...
    #cassetteculture #crosley #victrola

Комментарии • 702

  • @Max16032
    @Max16032 2 года назад +142

    I'm still amazed how we are in a huge cassette revival yet we have the worst options in cassette-playing devices when it comes to brand-new stuff. But not all hope is lost: Vinyl struggled for quite a few years until we finally got decent non-crosley turntables at an affordable price. I really hope we see something like that for the tape world.

    • @vwestlife
      @vwestlife  2 года назад +37

      It's not exactly huge compared to the vinyl revival. And with vinyl it took about 4 to 5 years of steady growth before good new affordable turntables started being introduced.

    • @sabs1970
      @sabs1970 6 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah top HiFi manufacturers just don't seem to be into Making New high quality cassette tape decks maybe they feel this current tend will Not last I think they could be right They be better to re-manufacture high end Quality CD players Not like the crap ! Sold by richer sounds in UK my CD needs are keep going with still very good used market 'Marantz CD players CD 42' 52 ' 62 or CD72 which all run classic reliable cdm4 laser mechanism they still hold great resale value now 30 + years old

    • @whogavehimafork
      @whogavehimafork 3 месяца назад +3

      Personally I do see cassettes catching on again. People are beginning to realize what they risk losing by forfeiting physical media.

    • @CatOnVenus183
      @CatOnVenus183 26 дней назад +1

      @@whogavehimafork I don't want them to catch on, not everything needs a big revival and a market behind it. The format right now is primarily used by indie artists and is a great way to shine a spotlight on them and it would suck to see them drowned out by big artists who view it as a novelty. New better machines would be nice, but there's plenty of old ones to fix still so just do that instead.

    • @synthesighs
      @synthesighs 19 дней назад +1

      @@CatOnVenus183 "a great way to shine a spotlight on them" what does that even mean? Literally no one is using cassettes for exposure or attention. Releasing cassettes is a way to be a part of a tiny, fragmented community of history nerds who are clinging on to the crumbling ruins of a fading technology as it slowly, surely slips through their fingers. Cassettes are worth more than that, and trying to beat this tech back into history for the sake of manufactured exclusivity is actively destructive to this culture.
      I want cassettes because of what they do. They hold music, and I want music from artists that I like. Artists that I like are incentivized to release music on this format if they know real people will be ABLE to listen to them. The idea that cassette will be a completely inaccessible format within my lifetime is a genuine possibility if there is no "big revival", and I dread it because I actually care about what they are.
      Your cynicism over "big" artists using tape for "novelty" in the same breath that you try to gatekeep a recording format to certain artists or genres, or to cassette deck technicians, is openly outrageous hypocritical hipster nonsense. Take a step back once

  • @error52
    @error52 2 года назад +88

    My mom's car when I was little had a stereo with that same mechanism in it. The radio played OK, but the cassette never worked while we had the car. When we decided to finally scrap the old pile of rust I pulled the stereo out and managed to get it going. I was surprised at how good it performed. Sadly the car was long gone by then. I still have the stereo, though, in my collection.

    • @MasticinaAkicta
      @MasticinaAkicta 2 года назад +9

      Car stereos hate bumpy movements. It would bump the flywheel and would play havock on the belts.

  • @VochoTalacha
    @VochoTalacha 2 года назад +179

    I laughed when he tested the RCA input feature. The pun was totally intended with the song played from the walkman: "it's the same, but if you're willing to play the game..." hahahaha

    • @FernieCanto
      @FernieCanto 2 года назад +4

      The song he plays after that must be intentional too: "I know it's worth it, I know it's worth it..."

    • @vwestlife
      @vwestlife  2 года назад +38

      The Carly Simon is simply what happened to be playing on the radio at the time. I had no control over it. The lyrics of the L.A. Gear song didn't stand out to me until I heard it again when putting the video together.

    • @dannymcgrath4640
      @dannymcgrath4640 2 года назад

      @@vwestlife who sings the song in the tape

    • @vwestlife
      @vwestlife  2 года назад

      @@dannymcgrath4640 Which one?

    • @mertanov
      @mertanov 2 года назад

      @@vwestlife min 07:00 please, thank you ;)

  • @buttguy
    @buttguy 2 года назад +51

    Genuine Mabuchi motors also say "Mabuchi" instead of "Mabucai", haha

  • @UnderEu
    @UnderEu 2 года назад +115

    Doesn’t sound bad, to be honest...
    And the obligatory “Radio Gets Results” jingle is missing but I’m pleased with the Oldsmobile one, too.

    • @infinitecanadian
      @infinitecanadian 2 года назад +12

      The song turned me into an Oldsmobile fan. So sad that they are no longer being made.

  • @DrCassette
    @DrCassette 2 года назад +56

    The direct hookup sounds surprisingly good, aside from the wobbly flywheel that mechanism technically is quite acceptable. Still I wouldn't want to use something like this because of the lack of user comfort. No rewind function and relatively slow fast forward would be a constant annoyance for me.

  • @Aeduo
    @Aeduo 2 года назад +113

    Honestly, considering some of the new clunkers techmoan has gotten, this probably is one of the best sounding ones. the operation reminds me a lot of an 8-track. Many of those were dumb simple, just turns on and plays from the tape being shoved in and shuts off when the tape ejects.

    • @Kalvinjj
      @Kalvinjj 2 года назад +11

      Kinda made for the task of being a car player, funny that this specific one is among the most popular for home machines, but I can see why it would be popular in car decks back in the day for the exact reasons you state.

  • @jkeelsnc
    @jkeelsnc 2 года назад +53

    At least it plays in stereo. Some of the cheap boom boxes don’t even do that.

  • @Kylefassbinderful
    @Kylefassbinderful 2 года назад +169

    For my ears it didn't sound too bad. Kinda surprised it has a stereo head.

    • @ccadam
      @ccadam 2 года назад

      Some of those cheap mechanisms in the cheapest of car radio/cassette players only had a mono head. The radio was horrible at differentiating stations too. The one that I put in my Dad's truck had horrible wow and flutter plus muddy sound too. I swapped it out for another one. Those were the days when tapes were still the thing and car radio cassette players were common everywhere especially Auto wreckers and not that dear new either especially for the cheap models.

  • @dualityk
    @dualityk 2 года назад +24

    I had an Audiovox car radio with this unit in it in the late 90s (which means it was probably an actual Tanashin) in my first car, a Mk1 Rabbit. Other than the punishment of having to look at its cheap face and its mile long single control button, it didn't actually sound that bad. I'm not surprised it made an acceptable performance here. However, I used to skip songs a lot, and the lack of a second spindle meant the tapes would tension unevenly after a few plays and would start to sound ... "interesting" until they were run end to end to retension them.
    It later got replaced with the last of the good Panasonic full logic decks, with power load/eject, multiple song skip, silence skip, and some sweet purple VU meters. Sadly, information and photos of that one have been lost to the digital black hole that consumed almost all low-end mainstream consumer products from the early-mid 90s to the early 2000s.

  • @danielalejandroespinahenri7063
    @danielalejandroespinahenri7063 2 года назад +208

    Actually sounds really good in comparison with some of those similar cassette players recently featured by techmoan. I wonder if it offers better wow & flutter than some others

    • @KevinFields777
      @KevinFields777 2 года назад +22

      I'd trade off pretty much ALL features if you could get a cassette player that sounds that good for $10-$30!

    • @analogidc1394
      @analogidc1394 2 года назад +15

      Agreed, for a cheap unit it didn't sound too bad on this end.

    • @ZhiroMinoda
      @ZhiroMinoda 2 года назад +17

      was thinking exactly this. Techmoans tanashin showings have sounded terrible so far. these mechanisms might have been somewhat tuned up

    • @andygozzo72
      @andygozzo72 2 года назад +3

      probably has, i have 2 'fake vintage' radios with these sort of mechanisms but theyre awful and screw tapes up after a few plays, they were made in the early 90s so 'maybe' theyve since improved them....a little!

    • @bobby666666
      @bobby666666 2 года назад +5

      I agree on the line inputs it sounded quite decent.

  • @ACBMemphis
    @ACBMemphis 2 года назад +36

    Hopefully, GM had the decency to put a cassette deck with rewind in that Oldsmobile...

    • @VectraQS
      @VectraQS 2 года назад +5

      They used the same unit in the vast majority of their cars, I think it had auto reverse, and three buttons (play backwards, stop/eject, play forwards). Not sure how you activated rewind/fast-forward because I've never seen one of those decks that actually still worked.

    • @peacearchwa5103
      @peacearchwa5103 2 года назад +9

      Car manufacturers took great care to design their factory-equipment cassette decks to withstand the punishing range of temperature, humidity, dust and pollution of the car environment, including times when the car is not in use and the cassette deck faces below-freezing temperatures or very high humidity.

    • @audvidgeek
      @audvidgeek 2 года назад

      @@VectraQS My father had one in his Chevy van If you pressed the volume button in, it would reverse the mechanism to play the bottom side of the tape. the >> button was FFWD for the top side, and REW for the bottom side. The

    • @sunbeam8866
      @sunbeam8866 2 года назад

      Years ago, an elderly friend had a Delco stereo, with a three-button cassette deck in his '86 Cutlass Ciera. He was having problems playing tapes and asked me to check it out. The cassette transport was actually made in Japan by Matsushita - popularly known here as Panasonic!

  • @F40PH-2CAT
    @F40PH-2CAT 2 года назад +40

    That FF only mechanism reminds me of the cheap drug store walkmans in the 80s and 90s (Yorx, GPX, Unisef, Soundesign, Emerson).

    • @DoubleMonoLR
      @DoubleMonoLR 2 года назад +4

      Even those sounded better than the modern equivalent though. I had a 'Bush' model and barely noticed the difference when I changed to a cheap Sony model.

    • @collectingonthecheap56353
      @collectingonthecheap56353 2 года назад +3

      My 80s GPX had rewind and fast forward, although I did opt to pay the $5 more for it.

  • @fsfs555
    @fsfs555 2 года назад +18

    Is this mech the worst thing ever? Eh, not necessarily; there's worse stuff, especially things spec'd down with mono heads or cheaper motors (those that don't even try to copy good name-brand motors).. Is it something you'd actually want to use? Not really, no.
    They're using a CW motor here mostly to have a more compact mechanism: notice the motor is on the same plane as the bulk of the mech, not hanging from the other side as with CCW motors used in larger home or boombox-style models. This really helps get these mechs into tight spaces and is a pretty common tactic for other compact mechs (especially automotive types).

  • @MacPhantom
    @MacPhantom 2 года назад +37

    I really had to laugh at "Mabucai"!
    That said, it does sound better than other knockoffs with more features, possibly because it has a bit of metal in the flywheel. It's still not good of course (you mentioned the untrue behaviour of it).

  • @polaris911
    @polaris911 2 года назад +24

    would be interesting to hear a side-by-side comparison of the line output vs. a proper tape deck

  • @patricknedz
    @patricknedz 2 года назад +20

    My old car had a nice cassette deck with Dolby B noise reduction and would play chrome and metal tapes Chrystal clear, auto reverse and digital controls.

    • @DoubleMonoLR
      @DoubleMonoLR 2 года назад +2

      There were a lot of very good cassette decks for cars in the past, as it was the only real option for a long time. Everyone loved the Alpine stereos with pale green lights back then.

  • @TheBasementChannel
    @TheBasementChannel 2 года назад +10

    The key change in the Oldsmobile song got me right in the feels

  • @ozmond
    @ozmond 2 года назад +33

    I honestly really like the way this is designed id use one as a cheap noise maker in a shed or barn with a stack of old cassettes from good will

  • @johnDingoFoxVelocity
    @johnDingoFoxVelocity 2 года назад +92

    Not bad on the tape player I never thought this would sound good

  • @NanoBurger
    @NanoBurger 2 года назад +30

    6:46
    Industry professionals agree that two-thirds of cheap tape mechanisms should never have taken place.

  • @ChristianKoehler77
    @ChristianKoehler77 2 года назад +12

    The simple fast forward (just pull head and pinch roller away from the tape) was also used in many cheap personal stereos in the 80s. These did not have rewind as well.

    • @markianclark9645
      @markianclark9645 2 года назад

      Bit late to this video...but I smiled when you mentioned cheap personal stereos...pocket cassette players or Walkman ripoffs...no rewind...my first one was so cheap and nasty it didn't even have a freewheeling 6 notch tape engage...it only had a solid plastic post...but I didn't keep it long...obviously

  • @fluis943
    @fluis943 2 года назад +5

    This is great! I'm restoring a 86 camry. I have been looking for replacement parts for the cassette player. Hopefully I can get the parts I need to fix it using one of these.

  • @the_rubbish_bin
    @the_rubbish_bin 2 года назад +32

    "There is a special feel" LoL I have one of those Oldsmobile tapes too. Makes for good comparison when I play it on one of my decks. Thanks for playing the whole jingle!

    • @SenileOtaku
      @SenileOtaku 9 дней назад

      I like the old Plymouth Baracuda radio ad better (look up "BaBaRaRaKuKuDaDa")

  • @jamesslick4790
    @jamesslick4790 2 года назад +21

    "Mahogany Monsters" is a good name for a band.

    • @kbhasi
      @kbhasi 2 года назад +3

      Your comment reminds me of how I once came across an Instructables tutorial titled along the lines of "Build a Birch and Mahogany Home Theatre PC", and I imagined a luxury brand called "Birch & Mahogany" as a result of misinterpreting the title.

    • @jamesslick4790
      @jamesslick4790 2 года назад +1

      @@kbhasi Well, "Birch & Mahogany" DOES sound like a great name for a "high end" furniture store! 👍😊👍

  • @snugglebunnyhaven7258
    @snugglebunnyhaven7258 2 года назад +6

    When I was little those mechanisms were fascinating to me. I had my share of cassette recorders, decks and players. I also had some cheaper car stereos I setup for my own personal use. The old Kraco am fm cassette car stereos actually had an all metal tape mechanism with brass motor pulley and the flywheel was all aluminum. Also had a secondary V belt to drive the takeup/ffwd instead of all gears. I have seen some with flat belts. Always drives me crazy when I see those V belt mechanisms with the belts twisted. I'd always put them back on track in line from V to V.

  • @Claro1993
    @Claro1993 2 года назад +13

    Reminds me of a simple 8-track player mechanism minus the track selector.

  • @randybutcher5713
    @randybutcher5713 Год назад +4

    There was a special feel in my fathers '77 oldsmobile cuz we had one of these cassette players mounted under the dash! Good times.

  • @TheBuggyGal
    @TheBuggyGal 2 года назад +7

    babe wake up new vwestlife upload

  • @Kalvinjj
    @Kalvinjj 2 года назад +7

    To begin with it already starts above expectations from being stereo, and to top it off, no bizarre high wow and flutter that you can perceive on music you're hearing for the 1st time, so definitely a winner.

  • @GalileoAV
    @GalileoAV 2 года назад +6

    1:41 My grandmother used to own that Victrola record player, the tape player is exactly as you described. Was very surprised to see something I randomly know about get covered here lmao

  • @pcallas66
    @pcallas66 2 года назад +11

    It sounds great through the line output and even the built in speakers are coming through just fine.

  • @vincentliew9763
    @vincentliew9763 2 года назад +11

    Reminds me of old bed headboard which has a cassette player, crappy but good old days.

  • @ConsumerDV
    @ConsumerDV 2 года назад +30

    Faux-1930s cabinets are to adjust the expectations of a customer. If this machine looked like, oh, let's say, TEAC W-1200, then the customer would expect its performance to match the looks: to have wide and flat frequency response, low noise, low wow & flutter, noise reduction, and all other goodies like song search, programmable playlist, auto-calibration, etc. But a machine that looks like it came from 1930s telegraphs, "I am just a crappy sound box from the era when talkies were invented, do not expect much of me". Smart on the manufacturer, but so sad.

    • @eDoc2020
      @eDoc2020 2 года назад +12

      The funny thing is old-school radios actually tend to sound much better than the general public expects.

    • @TheChipmunk2008
      @TheChipmunk2008 2 года назад +2

      @@eDoc2020 Yes, the bass response especially is usually very good from the larger speakers with slightly heavier cones

    • @AaronOfMpls
      @AaronOfMpls 2 года назад +3

      @@eDoc2020 Indeed, I have a 50s tube radio that belonged to my grandparents. Other than a slight hum from aging components, it sounds pretty good for a mono AM/FM radio.

    • @audvidgeek
      @audvidgeek 2 года назад +3

      @@eDoc2020 YES! it's amazing how nice a cheap "all American five" radio sounds and pulls in stations, compared to a modern AM radio!

    • @rexjolles
      @rexjolles 2 года назад

      @@eDoc2020 yeah I got a shitass Arvin am radio from the 50's (there's hardly any am music stations anymore) but the news and the Spanish music come in very well

  • @billp7748
    @billp7748 2 года назад +21

    “Something that approximates music”! Lol! Great video again Kevin!

  • @TechGorilla1987
    @TechGorilla1987 2 года назад +80

    You have earned the next 17 minutes of my time.

  • @phyein4815
    @phyein4815 2 года назад +7

    My life is now complete, hearing that Oldsmobile complimentary jingle

  • @domlimited1264
    @domlimited1264 2 года назад +13

    the line out on the player has a good amount of treble and bass I'd even buy something like that

  • @circuitblog01
    @circuitblog01 2 года назад +5

    First of all great video as usual, and in fact, this video took me back to the nineties when car tape player containing this mechanic were very common, and the selling price was from 6 dollars to 9 dollars according to the features. I have some notes on some of the information that you mentioned and I will discuss it in an upcoming video on my channel.

  • @santioriginal
    @santioriginal 2 года назад +19

    With all the research you've done and your network of people you know with specific - almost lost - knowledge, I think you have the right ingredients to develop the right cassette deck. Teac would do well to approach you as an advisor!

    • @wotizit2937
      @wotizit2937 2 года назад +3

      I concur.

    • @worldcomicsreview354
      @worldcomicsreview354 2 года назад +1

      Teac actually make one of those all-in-ones themselves. Same crappy record player, but the tape deck is up on top with the turntable and has full transport controls. With just a bit more effort (it's not like there's a shortage of better record player mechanisms out there, Teac probably make some themselves!) you could have an all-in-one that's actually worth getting!

  • @milfordcivic6755
    @milfordcivic6755 2 года назад +10

    Pyle is a pretty good name for anything they make.

  • @Markimark151
    @Markimark151 2 года назад +6

    Those cassette mechanisms are quite fine with these all-in-one retro audio systems. There was also a mini jukebox cassette player that used that mechanism.

  • @jackschissler255
    @jackschissler255 2 года назад +1

    My 1990 Pontiac Sunbird came with a Pontiac cassette. It had the “Get on your Pontiac and ride” gingle that they used in the commercials plus it explains some of the features of the car. I always love how the GM Delco electronic tape decks from the 80’s had you insert the tape head first in.

  • @paulb4uk
    @paulb4uk 2 года назад +11

    1 person used one of these wood monsterse to do a video on cassettes on RUclips then declared cassettes sound terrible ,needless to say his video has more dislikes. Than likes. These things are terrible.

  • @mxbunnycatter
    @mxbunnycatter 2 года назад +4

    I'm positively impressed by it.
    I always assumed that these things would sound horrible, because of the corners cut; but it's kind of neat.
    Also; I really love these promotional car cassette tapes

  • @danandkiko
    @danandkiko 2 года назад +1

    My dad helped me build a small car system that I used in my room. It was just 2 cheap 6x9 speakers with a Realistic car cassette player running off a car battery. It wasn't much, but I'll always remember loving using it.

  •  17 дней назад +1

    I am amazed to see that this mechanism is in my argentine Fiat Palio 1990´s that it still works really well!!! Cheers from frozen Patagonia.

  • @joaoacast
    @joaoacast 2 года назад +3

    Thanks for the great review! My best regards from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil.

  • @dowjones5981
    @dowjones5981 2 года назад +2

    The one song that says "I know its worth it, I get a sweet satisfaction" Thanks!

  • @JohnAudioTech
    @JohnAudioTech 2 года назад +4

    The MABUCAI part (note spelling and similar logo to MABUCHI) is a common trick some Chinese companies use to trick people into thinking they are buying an authentic part.

    • @SianaGearz
      @SianaGearz 2 года назад +2

      The logo is identical and the spelling is... well i have a pair of in-ears, actually pretty good ones, from a Chinese company which actually takes acoustic engineering seriously, where they misspelled "Dynamic" as "Dyuamic" on the shell (they fixed that in later revisions) and the QA tag has "Inspestion" on it instead of "Inspection" (still does, and that across several nominally unrelated brands, though sharing the same group of suppliers and packaging facility). You might not think so, but for people less familiar with the script, getting the right letters together is HARD, and single letter substitutions are usually not intentional! Like they aren't about to have any consequences from selling a counterfeit Mabuchi branded motor, and if there were any, they aren't going to get avoided by misspelling, it's just incompetence is all.

  • @mephitusincognito7918
    @mephitusincognito7918 2 года назад +2

    this thing sounds surprisingly good with the direct hookup.... now if they would just make a box like this without the speakers, just the tape and line out, we might have a winner of a product... ...i seriously did not expect that to sound so good...

  • @TrackZero
    @TrackZero 2 года назад +2

    Great review as always! Also now I want an Oldsmobile.

  • @BessieBopOrBach
    @BessieBopOrBach 2 года назад +17

    Another testament to the incredible resilience and performance of the humble cassette "cartridge." That Realistic hand rewinder was a wonderful blast from the past -- I wondered whether I would ever see one of those again!

    • @andygozzo72
      @andygozzo72 2 года назад +1

      i picked up a tandy/realistic battery powered rewinder a few years back 😉

    • @manFromPeterborough
      @manFromPeterborough 2 года назад

      @@andygozzo72 I have 2 of those, they need belts

    • @manFromPeterborough
      @manFromPeterborough 2 года назад

      had one in 83, I messed it up a bit with engine oil, don't have it anymore, may have been sold in a Trash & Treasure car boot sale many years back

  • @CrowTRobot-ni7zu
    @CrowTRobot-ni7zu 9 месяцев назад +2

    I love how when you put the tape in at the beginning, we heard “In the Mood.” I also have a cassette that opens with that piece.

  • @Landontheengineer
    @Landontheengineer 2 дня назад +1

    0:45 You actually do get rewind, it’s just that you have to put in the tape on side B, fast forward it, take it out, and put it back in on side A.

  • @couldntmixapotnoodle
    @couldntmixapotnoodle 2 года назад +7

    That's quite neat.
    It's really tidy in that thing.
    If somebody made quality ones I'd buy one.

    • @ticn
      @ticn 2 года назад

      this is actually quality for the price and performance

  • @waukee321
    @waukee321 11 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the post. Reminds me of the golden era of the cassette deck, the 1980s. That was the era when home units offered the best quality money could buy for recording and playing your cassettes. Home unit sets offered 3 motor transport design, motorized automatic tape head engagement, multiple noise reduction systems like Dolby B, C, S, HX pro and the special encoded dbx circuitry. Some units even had glass heads, closed loop capstans, fancy auto-reverse.
    I think with this revival though another factor was forgotten and that is the maintenance and cleaning that is absolutely necessary when playing cassettes, and demagnetizing the heads. It is important then for the deck to allow ease of access to the heads and capstan, and pinch roller to clean them as tape oxides build up on them creating high risks of tapes being eaten and lower sound quality output. This type of mechanism shown is difficult to access the heads and the pinch roller/capstan as they are recessed deep inside the unit. Cassette cleaning tapes that were marketed never really cleaned them adequately enough.
    As you mentioned it's funny this unjt only has a play and fast forward mechanism which is actually similar to the 8 track which only traveled in a forward play direction and some offered fast forward as well (no rewind)

  • @dashcamandy2242
    @dashcamandy2242 2 года назад +3

    5:25 - My '94 Cavalier didn't have "attack" seat belts, neither did Mom's '97... But my '95 Escort did. And in a matter of a month I replaced the seat belt track/motor combo twice before I manually cranked it into its proper position and unplugged the motor harness.
    11:54 - Hey, I have that song on Cassingle! It includes an interesting alternate version that has a children's choir singing "Itsy Bitsy Spider" in the middle of the song.
    16:10 - **bobbing head** "Duck Tales, whoo-ooo..." Wait, that's not the song!
    I don't know if you noticed this while filming, but the rear end of the mech needs some support - it wiggles noticeably every time you insert a tape or operate the FF/Eject rod.

  • @efficiencygaming3494
    @efficiencygaming3494 2 года назад +21

    Another great video! I've always been fascinated with this contemporary cassette player mechanism because it works fairly well for how oversimplified it is. It's fool-proof, too. Just put the cassette in and it starts playing immediately.
    Sure, you could make them a lot better, but I can understand why manufacturers go with this mechanism over anything else. It's honestly pretty cool.

  • @CommodoreFan64
    @CommodoreFan64 2 года назад +7

    I honestly thought this would be 100% junk, but I'm surprised it sounds 1/2 decent via the line out.

  • @MartenvanKammenVisser
    @MartenvanKammenVisser 7 месяцев назад +1

    Here in Spain, Germany and the UK these kind of cassette players are used in brands as Crosley, AUNA, etc. Brands that offer good quality for a reasonable price. I really like your channel. Keep it going... Seeing the motor used in the cassette player, they come from Skywin, as you clearly told in your video that the same motors are used in record players coming from China. I have an AUNA all-in-one stereo system with DAB+ which sounds great, no problem. Including the double cassette deck is fine (sometimes the internet router disturbs on playing the tapes, because it's really close). The Skywin record player is good enough, though it sounds a bit "light", but what do you want? Can't have it all perfect.

  • @douglasallen9428
    @douglasallen9428 2 года назад +5

    Honestly, I really wish that someone would use one of these slot loading cassette players in a portable unit….

    • @audubon5425
      @audubon5425 2 года назад +1

      I had a Lasonic boom box that had one full-featured mechanical cassette and one of these featured here. Even new, you could hear the sound quality difference - the side-insert portion never got used.

  • @guessundheit6494
    @guessundheit6494 2 года назад +9

    0:25 - And 1980s alarm clocks. It ate a tape immediately and I never used it again.
    15:55 - How about a walkman sized box with RCA in/out but without those crap speakers?

    • @SenileOtaku
      @SenileOtaku 9 дней назад

      I am curious what sort of mechanism my Ion portable cassette player uses. I recently picked up a Kenwood KX-620 at a house sale, but unfortunately it just plays static, even without a cassette in it, so it's in need of some repair (can't do that right now).
      I've also been trying to get a *working* 8-track player to have a way to digitize those tapes as well (my reel-to-reel decks are dead now too).

  • @hattree
    @hattree 2 года назад +4

    I think that's the first time I've seen one of those tape decks that worked. They are always the first component to go in those all in one systems.

  • @pastedtomato
    @pastedtomato 2 года назад +6

    Sounds a lot better than expected, not bad at all.

  • @mauritsvw
    @mauritsvw 2 года назад +7

    Even more popular than those manual cassette rewinders was of course the Bic pen.

    • @SenileOtaku
      @SenileOtaku 9 дней назад

      I used to have that exact Radio Shack rewinder. Don't know if I lost it in our house fire.

  • @G.B...
    @G.B... 2 года назад +5

    I expected Wow & Flutter measurements to be included in the video (Kevin usually does that with special software in his reviews). But of course that would be overkill for such a cheap device, plus we can easily guess what the results would be.

  • @thevacdude
    @thevacdude 2 года назад +5

    Thanks for the video, Kevin.

  • @TOLUIA
    @TOLUIA 2 года назад +10

    I love your videos, and I myself have gotten into collecting cassettes again.

    • @olik136
      @olik136 2 года назад +2

      I am collecting since I bought a VW bus with a tape deck in it.. but I have a hard time finding good music on tape- the vast majority of stuff on ebay is children's plays or
      folk music... and if you try getting something popular like a David Bowie album... suddenly a stupid cassette is a 100 bugs...

    • @richardbates2367
      @richardbates2367 2 года назад

      @@olik136 try your luck with mecari they are almost always selling lots of country and rock, heavy metal cassette tapes and some look like they were hardly even touched..

  • @audvidgeek
    @audvidgeek 2 года назад

    This was the common mechanism sold in low-end car stereos, like Sparkomatic, Kraco, etc. I remember seeing car radios for $29.95 at K-mart, and auto parts shops with that mechanism. Tanashen also made a fancier auto-reverse mechanism that found it's way into pretty much every mid-grade car stereo with name-brands, from Alpine to Audiovox, Sony, JVC, Pioneer, etc and even in come factory decks, like Honda's. It's easy to tell it by the button arrangement. Eject on the left, and a pair of fast-wind buttons on the right, of the tape opening, that when you push them together, the deck reverses. By the early 90's it was almost impossible to find a car stereo deck that did NOT have a Tanashen mechanism in it!

  • @cadenswain158
    @cadenswain158 2 года назад +2

    honestly this mechanism seems to have a better quality sound than the other style of mech.

  • @grimreboot
    @grimreboot 2 года назад +3

    Thanks for the video! :)

  • @zuffin1864
    @zuffin1864 9 месяцев назад +1

    Vwestlife, i don't know if you intend to have some amazing dry humor, but i started cracking up when you placed the "Oldsmobile" card down at 4:05 🤣

  • @Peter_Yachymczyk
    @Peter_Yachymczyk 2 года назад +3

    Neat never knew what the internals of that infamous deck looked like! Can you do a video on the CD part?
    Mine looks like a cluster of Chinese eBay modules just wired together in a big monstrosity of a box!
    I was given an ElectroBrand 5 in one (Radio/CD/Cassette/Phono/Aux) and it has the same cassette mechanism on the right side with the tell-tale AutoStop and the 4 screws.
    I like how easy the belt is to get at!
    I wish it was that easy for the higher end home decks as well point in I had a Sony TC-WR975 (one step behind their ES model at that time) and I tried (and failed) to change the belts I ended up with "extra" parts and it was totally no workie now not just the auto-reverse backwards play, I did love the motorized open/close button vs the standard mechanical eject button that most others have.

  • @rizzlerazzleuno4733
    @rizzlerazzleuno4733 2 года назад +1

    Love the manual tape rewinder. Never saw one of those. I just stuck a ballpoint pen on one side and twirled the cassette around like a kids noise maker. Loads of good exercise. Worked until the tape flew off the pen and sailed across the room or into the lake.

  • @danielkalilalvesdonascimen3113
    @danielkalilalvesdonascimen3113 2 года назад +8

    At 11:27 you can literaly see that is a false Mabuchi motor because instead they write "Mabuchi" in the paper, they wrote "Mabucai"

  • @macktheinterloper
    @macktheinterloper 2 года назад +7

    Not as bad as I thought it would be. I mean, it's nothing to be proud of and I wouldn't dare put any of my surviving metal tapes into one of these, but still, I expected worse.

  • @TheSquaredM
    @TheSquaredM 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for your review of this product.

  • @VisualTorrent
    @VisualTorrent 2 года назад +4

    That Oldsmobile song slapped ngl

  • @Rick_Todd
    @Rick_Todd 2 года назад +2

    How was the Wow & Flutter ?

  • @zsombor_99
    @zsombor_99 2 года назад +7

    Wow, actually it sounds pretty normal, and it's stereo as well. 👍
    If it works, why it should be more complex than literally a car radio, right? 😉

  • @oddjob05
    @oddjob05 2 года назад +1

    What is the song at 13:30 ? Is that CKY?

  • @Hammer0165
    @Hammer0165 2 года назад +1

    Bloody hell, that Oldsmobile tape brought me back to my first car. Bought it way too cheap, an old American car in Europe. It could only go wrong and it did. The engine blew up within a 1000 miles, despite the reputation of the old Buick 3.8 V6. But it had the cassette in the glove compartment and I listened to it. Never thought I'd hear it again. Rest in peace, 1988 Oldsmobile Cutlass Ciera.

  • @driveined
    @driveined 2 года назад +2

    As an Oldsmobile fan, I have that Oldsmobile promotional cassette. My ears really perked up when I heard, "there is a special feel in an Oldsmobile!"

  • @veganguy74
    @veganguy74 2 года назад +3

    So how long will it remain “contemporary”?

  • @nickbitten6037
    @nickbitten6037 2 года назад +1

    Very interesting video. As well as " decent" cassette decks, i also have a slot loading unit i picked up on a whim at a charity shop. It is not as c****y as i feared, but i would let any of my best tapes be played on it. However, glad your videos are helping to keep tapes in the public eye.

    • @nickbitten6037
      @nickbitten6037 2 года назад

      P.S- i meant to say i would not let my best tapes be played on it

  • @jeffreygorodokin4112
    @jeffreygorodokin4112 Год назад

    Where can I find that cassette tape mount/frame? I found the Tanashin knockoff mechanism, now I just need a nice front plate to complete a little DIY project.

  • @I967
    @I967 2 года назад +5

    If you told people in the 1980s that in the future, cassette decks will be downgraded to 8-track functionality, they would give you funny looks.

    • @solinus7131
      @solinus7131 2 года назад +2

      They probably already have cassette players that have 8 track functionality (perhaps in cheaper cars)

    • @750kv8
      @750kv8 2 года назад +1

      Cheaper walkman tape decks did have only play and fast forward functions. Some car stereo decks had rewind function too, but they were still operated by a single button (slide left / right for rew / ff; push to eject). I think that one was great. It was nothing unusual.

    • @xaenon
      @xaenon 2 года назад

      @@750kv8 For a nunber of years, my 'car stereo' was the stock AM radio modded with a 1/8" stereo jack (wired for mono) that I connected my walkmans to. Had a simple AM/FM Walkman, replaced it with an AM/FM-cassette. I sold the car before I got my CD walkman, but it would have worked, too.
      Why? I worked a job that was located in a pretty shady section of town. A stock AM radio isn't worth prying out of the dash. People would see you had nothing they wanted and would move on.

  • @ronniebrookfield9247
    @ronniebrookfield9247 2 года назад

    0:30 do you have a link or anything to the cassette played here?

  • @arthurvasey
    @arthurvasey 10 месяцев назад +1

    I’ve got something like that what my sister got me out of the Betterware catalogue - it’s identical in every way except for the fact that it only has one speaker and not two - especially designed for digitising cassettes - but I think I can connect other devices to it!

  • @noelj62
    @noelj62 2 года назад +5

    Clockwise or counter CW is determined by the position of the motor in regards to the main flywheel. All those mechanisms that have CCW motor also have the motor bottom facing back.
    Regarding the amplifier, from the look of the U shaped heatsink, I think it's the trusty TEA2025 or UTC2025 that all chinese cheap boomboxes used in the 90s.

    • @RealEpikCartfrenYT
      @RealEpikCartfrenYT 2 года назад +1

      Yeah, the letter f in the model number of the motor EG-530AD-2F means front. If it was facing back then it would be an EG-530AD-2B

  • @johnstone7697
    @johnstone7697 2 года назад +6

    Given that wobbly "flywheel", it suggests really loose quality control standards in this mechanism. It would be interesting to know the actual specifications for the transport, e.g., at what wow and flutter limit does the transport get rejected? I'd lay odds, it's high.....really high. And even if one sample doesn't sound "terrible" it doesn't mean the next one won't. The lack of a supply hub doesn't help matters, as this means the tape is being dragged through the shell with the additional friction from the unsupported supply reel. Anyone of us who experienced the rise of the cassette format from the early portables (I had one of the very first Philips recorders), through the era of metal tape, HX Pro, Dolby B, C, S, etc. can only look at this piece of junk and sigh. Once digital audio displaced these mechanical formats, it seems that the knowledge and manufacturing expertise required for making a quality mechanical tape transport was lost for good. After listening almost exclusively to digital files for years now, I can't tolerate wow and flutter at just about any level above about .1% I even hear it on decent quality turntables, and it wouldn't surprise me if some of what I hear comes right from the original master tape.

    • @andygozzo72
      @andygozzo72 2 года назад +1

      the missing feed spindle wont make much difference, if at all, its the take up tension thats important, if thats unstable and varying, it will sound horrid

    • @p0k314COM
      @p0k314COM 2 года назад

      What "quality control"?

  • @rarbiart
    @rarbiart 2 года назад

    VWestlife is really flexing on us, presenting this audiophile-horror in broad daylight in close up shots. Thank you for the nightmares!

  • @jamesslick4790
    @jamesslick4790 2 года назад +4

    I know I was jaggin on some of my comments, But Hell, It actually sounded reasonable! I use a first gen Walkman Professional to digitize cassettes. I paid $25 for it in 2000 (Don't look them up NOW😲, as a motorcycle would get you MORE mileage for LESS money😳! ) But really the modern cheap tape mechanisms SEEM to beat the modern cheap "vinyl" record players. NOW is the time for the "average Joe" to get a cassette player and digitize their tapes.

    • @Mishkafofer
      @Mishkafofer 2 года назад

      Digitize what? Nsync and Blink 182 cassetes?

    • @jamesslick4790
      @jamesslick4790 2 года назад

      @@Mishkafofer I digitize personal tapes for people. You do realize that tapes were used to record more than pop music, right? People used cassette tape from the 1960s into the early 2000s to record events,life stories,kid's first words, maybe grandma's last words. Not every cassette user was a 12 year old recording crappy top 40 tunes off of the radio...

    • @manFromPeterborough
      @manFromPeterborough 2 года назад +1

      @@jamesslick4790 I did that when I was 12, a mono Audiosonic radio tape-recorder on AM

  • @Recordology
    @Recordology 2 года назад +5

    You have some great demo tapes!

  • @8bitter696
    @8bitter696 2 года назад +3

    What’s the song at 7:01

  • @peacearchwa5103
    @peacearchwa5103 2 года назад +1

    Three thoughts: first, I'd never seen a Cassette Tape Hand Winder before. Neat idea! Second, if made with decent quality control this could be hugely popular for retailers as novelty Christmas gifts. Retailers call this "Amplified Gifting", products only carried during Christmas shopping season. How about a fashionable-looking Target Heyday replica of this Pyle unit? Third, how do you clean the tape heads, capstan and pinch roller on these units? Nice video and many thanks!

    • @vwestlife
      @vwestlife  2 года назад

      They do sell cleaning cassettes with felt pads that you put a few drops of alcohol on and then it rubs them against the head and capstan/pinch roller when you play it. Of course manual cleaning is best, but a cleaning cassette is much easier for players like these where the mechanism is not easily accessible without taking it apart.

  • @subliminalvibes
    @subliminalvibes 2 года назад +1

    Wow, I'd love for you to test the USB-OUT when paired with an analogue input.
    I wonder if it just passes audio through or whether it internally processes it in any way...

  • @certifiedbruh2180
    @certifiedbruh2180 2 года назад +2

    This player is already making people view cassettes as pointless. A while back, some bloke did a video where he played a cassette on this player, heard it skip around and then determined that the cassette comeback is pointless.

  • @cowboymaxwell
    @cowboymaxwell Год назад

    anyone know how to clean one of these ?? I have the record player all in one type deal and just got a cassette with a vinyl I bought and when I played it there was so much static and weird sounds with the music