The strange thing about all this is that Molly was, in fact, a self-educated person who was very deeply into culture. She learned two or three languages all by herself, and thrived on visiting art museums and attending classical concerts. She was also a voracious reader. In reality, she was better educated than all these numb minded Stepford wives.
@@kinndah2519 She was new money. Rich people traditionally regardless of culture hate people with new money as generations and generations of wealth is prestigious.
Even though Molly was a first class passenger she was nothing like Ruth. She pretty much treated everyone equally and had a personality similar to Mrs Potts in Beauty and the Beast.
at that time it and i would say even to this day, people who are new money are looked down upon, you could be penniless at the moment but the thought of coming from a family that had money for many generations is superior to new money in their minds
In fact, Molly Brown had her own money. Molly's divorce from Jim was on fairly good terms in that they still loved each other very much, but Jim didn't like travelling. The separation of their wealth, her ex-husband placed no conditions, meaning Molly was free to be independent, remarkable for the time, and also shows how much faith both parties had in each other.
Fun fact: the Countess of Rothes was actually considered a hero during and in the aftermath of the sinking. The steward of her lifeboat was overwhelmed and did not know how to steer, so she took control, both steering and helping to row the boat herself. When their boat got to the Carpathia, she spent her time on the rescue ship helping to care for third-class survivors.
it same for ismay. he was made a bad guy in the movie and in real life. but he was trying to direct and help passangers get into boats. i cant confirm this next point but ive read an officer, possibly murdoch told him to get into the boat when their was no one around left
@@randomrazr Agreed. Most depictions of Titanic have vilified him unfairly, largely due to an enduring legacy spread by William Randolph Hearst, who had a falling out with Ismay not long before Titanic sank and thus started a smear campaign against him when he survived the sinking. One of the survivors on the boat he boarded even said in the aftermath that Ismay initially did not want to get on but boarded because nobody in the boat knew how to row, and that he saved their lives.
They never once mention Molly’s weight in this. It’s because she’s “new money” and still looked at as a third class person. And the fact she just says whatever she wants when she wants is what they don’t like. But who was Ruth leaning on in the life boat before getting saved?? Molly
Who knows, maybe Molly and Ruth became good friends after this? And I often wonder how Ruth ended up now that her meal ticket (Rose) was presumably dead.
Kathy Bates is a goddess… she can be a terrifying psycho, a beleaguered battered wife, a kindhearted “nouvelle riche”, and blow us away every time while at it…
at the end of this scene, where Ismay and the captain are speaking about the boilers. The lady in the back round (sitting at the table) was Elizabeth Lines. She survived the sinking and at the hearing of Titanic, she took the stand and said she over heard this conversation.
@@dollpickle Molly would likely have been a whole lot of fun to be around, at least if she actually was as she was portrayed here. As for people like Rose's mother, I try to stay as far away as I can, rich or not.
The only reason Ruth is fining and dining is because of Rich Cal . If Cal wasn't around both Ruth and Rose would be in 3rd class eating bread n water not prime lamb etc
Well Ruth was also herself. It was prolly ingrained in her family lineage to see herself as special. Molly was sympathetic, because she had empathy for the people she belonged to once.
@@M.A.C.01 ^ Well, at THAT time, the reigning monarch would've been George V, successor to Victoria, but I see what you mean, haha. It's interesting, since this is the height of the Edwardian era, in reference to the monarch who reigned before George V.
@@M.A.C.01 I think Ruth is too old for that. Cal wanted someone young. But normally, Frances Fisher is in fact a lot better looking (at the same ages) than Kate Winslet.
"The purpose of going to a university is to find a suitable husband, and Rose has already done that" ME: oh no no no no no, not the purpose of the university now thank goodness. Otherwise, would fail XD I just focus on my studies and don't look at any man XD
Every time I looked at Rose's mother, I just shake my head. The typical stuck-up woman who wants to live her life through her daughters. Setting her up with a rich guy whom she doesn't love and living off them so she can brag to her friends over tea and crumpets. Sad.
As a historian, I can tell you this sort of thing has been present throughout most history. Parents back then though of their kids sort of like a contract to stay rich, so they would marry their daughters off to the richest men they could find, to keep their wealth if anything ever happened to them. Really quite disgusting if you think about it.
If you think this is bad. You should watch this movie named, Mother Knows Best (I believe that is the name of it). It is based off of a true story. And I believe I watched it on an app named Tubi. You should check it out, along with Too Close to Home, and The Sins of a Mother. They are ALL based off of a true story, and they are ALL on that app. What Rose mother did wasn't good, don't get me wrong.
@@alexoddy404 Parents still act like that, in more ways then one. They see their children as something they can own, controll, and possess. Nothing more or nothing less.
Kids in the lunchroom used to do that "lets pretend we were just leaving" routine a lot when I was in high school. I grew up in a wealthy Massachusetts town. I don' know it this is widespread elsewhere. It was a snub when any kid would approach their table who was not a member of the "in" crowd.
If u see the ending ismay telling the captain why he didn’t light the last four boilers he was pushing the captain too go faster he is the reason they crashed
1912: the purpose of university is to find a suitable husband 2012: the purpose of university is to find a good career so a girl won't have to depend on a man . Boy have times changed.
Molly Brown is one of the most real people I’ve ever seen. Class act. Kathy Bates was amazing in the role. Seemed like a person who would take you in, toss a coat on you for comfort, and just talk.
Who's like me? When i watch this movie as a kid, i thought Molly was really a toxic woman who people don't like hanging around. Because the way Rose mother treat her is really look like that at the time. Now as an adult, i realize she is the one who is smart around the actual toxic person, Rose mother. I love this kind of detail in a film. In reality, there's still a lot of people out there who like to befriend with a toxic person like Rose mother, and seen them as smart. But the actual smart person like Molly is being seen as weird, arrogant, creep, loner and being excluded and ostracized by people.
What happened to Ruth? Cal felt sorry for her loss and helped her financianilly... which isn't likely. She became a seamstress she dreaded becoming if the engagement failed OR Ruth married a man who wasn't rich but wasn't poor and carried on airs at the Church Bazaar. Who knows?
I wouldn’t be able to wear a lifeboat on my head lol, but if I were ever to travel on a ship, I would bring a dry scuba suit that covers my head and the rest of my body and be ready to put it on at all times throughout the trip.
Margaret was "new money ", her husband had struck gold(literally)in mining and had made a fortune. She had left school at 13 years old to work at a tobacco factory to support her family. At 18, she left home to marry a small mine owner, who was poor by mine owner's standards, but they were comfortable and had two children together. After laws changed and all mines had to give a portion of silver to the government,Margaret's husband started mining for gold as well and got lucky. By the time Margaret sailed on the Titanic, she was fluent in 4 languages, separated from her husband and had a monthly allowance of $700! In other words, she had more wealth, independence and education than any of the women who shunned her.
This scene reflects the "contempt" or low importance of the woman's studies. The most important thing is that the woman was a lady. The important thing for a woman's fulfillment was to "marry well."
Girls and women did get education back then. More than just how to be a wife and mother. They were taught to read and write, learned math and literature. And were encouraged to pursuit the arts like music, dancing, painting, poetry, etc. Getting married rarely stopped women from having hobbies that made them happy.
Molly saying that she needed to catch up on her gossip when the others told her they were going for a walk on the boat deck was an obvious shade! (Translation: That's about all you hens do, anyway!)
1912 : "Once a woman has secured a husband, there is no need for attending a university." 2022 : "My daughter has $200K in student debt, a degree that is pure feminist indoctrination, and now no man wants to marry her, so she still lives with us at age 30".
Corrie Spence it has nothing to do with her weight they never once implied it. She was “new money” and obviously “annoying” in their eyes and they didn’t like her.
If Smith HAD lit those last four boilers, what difference might the ship going a knot or even half a knot faster have made? It might just have never coincided with that south drifting Iceberg if it sailed past it qurter of an hour sooner.
whe she does this when the ship is sinking... "ma'm you do you realize we're thousands of miles away from land in sub-artic waters... and the ship is sinking"
No room no room no room nooo room No Room Alice: I thought there plenty of room. Manhatten: it's very rude to sit down when your not invited Rat: It's very rude indeed. Alice I didn't know about that.
“But the purpose of University is to find a suitable husband.. Rose has already done that” ugh!! Ruth cared about Cal’s money more than she cared for her own daughter.
Ruth is like my ex-stepmother, Debbie. Debbie married then murdered my American dad just for his money! My American Dad married her because he thought she looked attractive, but boy was she uuuuuuuuuug-lee! Both physically and emotionally!
Historically, women of society in the West were made to speak very softly so as not to come off as domineering or unlady like. While I'm not particularly loud, I can't imagine speaking this way all of the time. If we were meant to stay quiet, our voices couldn't break glass.
I don't think you needed to whisper all the time. Just keep your voice down indoors and don't swear like a sailor is what was expected of women back then. Do you want your private conversation heard from across the room?
Contrary to popular belief, girls and women did get an education in more than just being a wife and mother. They were taught to read and write, even learn different languages if possible. They were also taught math and literature. And were encouraged to pursuit the arts like music, dancing, painting, etc. Since women couldn't live independently back then, marrying was their only option to have a stable life. The wealthier the man, the better off the woman was financially. And unless the man was a real prick like Cal, men didn't usually stop their wives from pursuing their hobbies or interests. Would it be hard once she had a baby? Yeah but they could afford a nanny, or had a relative to help care for the baby, the wife can still do her hobbies.
For all Men who think Women were good back then and became snakes today This scene reminds us that it was not at all different when it came to toxic girls These 3 girls in the scene are essentially the original Mean Girls from 1912
^ The truly remarkable thing about Molly is how hardy and strong a person she was. She was no idiot, and knew perfectly well the resentment those catty women had for her. But she didn't care. She made a conscious choice to put contact with people and enjoyment of her time on Titanic (before that fateful night) at the forefront despite everything else. It takes an incredibly strong emotional maturity to do that. I'm sure Molly knew that she only had to put up with these people for the next few days, and then assuming the Titanic had made it to New York, she would never have had to have contact with any of them ever again.
@@AlexS-oj8qf She's not Madeleine, it's Madame Aubert, Benjamin Guggenheim Mistress. She appear again later during the dinner and didn't have any lines
There are few parts I could hate in this movie, though Titianic is the spectacular, drama romance movie based on the real-life Titanic sinking in 1912, but this one is downright rude. I mean Ruth immediately finished off her tea party with the friends right before Molly was about to join? What is wrong with that woman?! Molly is a nice supportive passenger, and a supporting character in the movie. What was Ruth thinking?
The strange thing about all this is that Molly was, in fact, a self-educated person who was very deeply into culture. She learned two or three languages all by herself, and thrived on visiting art museums and attending classical concerts. She was also a voracious reader. In reality, she was better educated than all these numb minded Stepford wives.
They just didn't like her because she was "new" money.
No, the Countess and many other women were very well educated. They even did charity work. They just didn't like Molly's demeanor.
I'm liking her even more ❤🙂
@@kinndah2519 She was new money. Rich people traditionally regardless of culture hate people with new money as generations and generations of wealth is prestigious.
The European elite loved her, she was so different and fun
You can't sit with us 1912 edition
😂😂😂 so true
💀🤣
I wonder what day it was! Lmao
True
Ruth and the Countess are the Plastics of 1912.
Even though Molly was a first class passenger she was nothing like Ruth. She pretty much treated everyone equally and had a personality similar to Mrs Potts in Beauty and the Beast.
It's because Molly wasn't born rich..
And she had a pure heart
Molly kept it 100. Molly knows both side of the coin, rich AND poor.
In fact after the sinking Molly gave a huge sum of her own money to 3rd class survivors, to help them get on their feet
@@RhiannaBarr Neither was Ruth or Rose. Ruth became a bitch when Rose was forced into a marriage to Cal, and he was so wealthy.
How hypocritical of Rose's mom to judge Molly being "new money", when she herself is practically penniless. Molly probably has more money than her.
at that time it and i would say even to this day, people who are new money are looked down upon, you could be penniless at the moment but the thought of coming from a family that had money for many generations is superior to new money in their minds
@ lordalessan
They’re all stuck up Karens. At least Molly worked for everything she has and treats everyone equally.
Yup. Especially after the Titanic sank.
In fact, Molly Brown had her own money. Molly's divorce from Jim was on fairly good terms in that they still loved each other very much, but Jim didn't like travelling. The separation of their wealth, her ex-husband placed no conditions, meaning Molly was free to be independent, remarkable for the time, and also shows how much faith both parties had in each other.
It wasn't a question of money but "class and social status"
Fun fact: the Countess of Rothes was actually considered a hero during and in the aftermath of the sinking. The steward of her lifeboat was overwhelmed and did not know how to steer, so she took control, both steering and helping to row the boat herself. When their boat got to the Carpathia, she spent her time on the rescue ship helping to care for third-class survivors.
it same for ismay. he was made a bad guy in the movie and in real life. but he was trying to direct and help passangers get into boats. i cant confirm this next point but ive read an officer, possibly murdoch told him to get into the boat when their was no one around left
@@randomrazr Agreed. Most depictions of Titanic have vilified him unfairly, largely due to an enduring legacy spread by William Randolph Hearst, who had a falling out with Ismay not long before Titanic sank and thus started a smear campaign against him when he survived the sinking. One of the survivors on the boat he boarded even said in the aftermath that Ismay initially did not want to get on but boarded because nobody in the boat knew how to row, and that he saved their lives.
Oh. That's so sweet of her
They never once mention Molly’s weight in this. It’s because she’s “new money” and still looked at as a third class person. And the fact she just says whatever she wants when she wants is what they don’t like. But who was Ruth leaning on in the life boat before getting saved?? Molly
Heavier Weight in those days was a Symbol of Wealth.
@@Flap-cs5ku In real life, Molly was solidly built, but hardly fat.
Who knows, maybe Molly and Ruth became good friends after this? And I often wonder how Ruth ended up now that her meal ticket (Rose) was presumably dead.
@@nassauguy48 It is fake so the characters are not real to become friends after anything...
Overweight was in back then
This scene illustrates that while plenty of things change with age and time era....girls being bullies isn’t one of them.
They are the mean girls of 1912
Men and women are bullies they are both as bad as each other. They have existed way before 1912 and will exist until the end which sucks.
Kathy Bates did a phenomenal job of portraying Margaret "molly" brown
Kathy Bates is a goddess… she can be a terrifying psycho, a beleaguered battered wife, a kindhearted “nouvelle riche”, and blow us away every time while at it…
@@jcmat9917 absolutely she's one of my favorite actresses. She so talented
I must say her eyes are gorgeous 0:23
She is
No just No, all I see is Annie Wilks dressed up for 1912
Eyes have no colour, it's a reflection of light...you didn't know that?
True
She looked gorgeous!
at the end of this scene, where Ismay and the captain are speaking about the boilers. The lady in the back round (sitting at the table) was Elizabeth Lines. She survived the sinking and at the hearing of Titanic, she took the stand and said she over heard this conversation.
Wow; that's an interesting bit of history. Thanks much for sharing it :)
I don't know how accurate Molly Brown's portrayal was in this movie, but I'd have tea with her.
She wasn't stuck up like Rose's mother.
Same. I rather have tea with Molly than that stuck up mother Rose had.
molly seems very motherly, i’d definitely trust her within 5 minutes of meeting
@@dollpickle Molly would likely have been a whole lot of fun to be around, at least if she actually was as she was portrayed here. As for people like Rose's mother, I try to stay as far away as I can, rich or not.
I would smoke a cigarette and have a brandy with Molly 😭
@@steveanderson5244yes Ruth was a stuck-up b****.
The only reason Ruth is fining and dining is because of Rich Cal . If Cal wasn't around both Ruth and Rose would be in 3rd class eating bread n water not prime lamb etc
Agreed
Given that Rose wanted to get off the ship and run away with Jack after the ship docked, I don’t think she would have cared much
You're right, except for the "bread and water" bit. Third-class passengers on the Titanic were actually served very good meals.
And she was forcing Rose into that marriage so that she could continue “fining and dining.”
Exactly
Omfg, this totally reminds me of my mom and her friends having tea ☕️🐸
Hahaha
I hear you there
Mean girls in 1912
How so?
So ignorant, gossipy,entitled ,white privileged women?
For someone so afraid she could lose everything just like that... Ruth sure has her nose in the air.
😂😂😂
I would of had tea with Molly than with Ruth. Why? Because Molly was herself.
I agree. The audacity of Ruth treating her this way.
Well Ruth was also herself. It was prolly ingrained in her family lineage to see herself as special. Molly was sympathetic, because she had empathy for the people she belonged to once.
The 1910s version of ‘You can’t sit with us.’
On Wednesdays we wear huge hats that rival the Queen of England’s.
@@M.A.C.01 ^ Well, at THAT time, the reigning monarch would've been George V, successor to Victoria, but I see what you mean, haha. It's interesting, since this is the height of the Edwardian era, in reference to the monarch who reigned before George V.
molly is so down to earth they just i have no words
I’d have tea with her in a heartbeat.
So did Molly Brown later on give Ruth a seamstress job?
I imagine Ruth married Kal
@@M.A.C.01 I think Ruth is too old for that. Cal wanted someone young.
But normally, Frances Fisher is in fact a lot better looking (at the same ages) than Kate Winslet.
I would love Molly and Mr. Andrews as parents
"The purpose of going to a university is to find a suitable husband, and Rose has already done that"
ME: oh no no no no no, not the purpose of the university now thank goodness. Otherwise, would fail XD I just focus on my studies and don't look at any man XD
Tuh- I loved Molly. I mean How could you not?😭💀
Every time I looked at Rose's mother, I just shake my head. The typical stuck-up woman who wants to live her life through her daughters. Setting her up with a rich guy whom she doesn't love and living off them so she can brag to her friends over tea and crumpets. Sad.
As a historian, I can tell you this sort of thing has been present throughout most history. Parents back then though of their kids sort of like a contract to stay rich, so they would marry their daughters off to the richest men they could find, to keep their wealth if anything ever happened to them. Really quite disgusting if you think about it.
If you think this is bad. You should watch this movie named, Mother Knows Best (I believe that is the name of it). It is based off of a true story. And I believe I watched it on an app named Tubi. You should check it out, along with Too Close to Home, and The Sins of a Mother. They are ALL based off of a true story, and they are ALL on that app. What Rose mother did wasn't good, don't get me wrong.
@@alexoddy404 Parents still act like that, in more ways then one. They see their children as something they can own, controll, and possess. Nothing more or nothing less.
einstein... good grief
Just imagine how Rose’s dad was
The shade of it all
When Ruth said find a suitable husband, I heard “Find a suitable Hospital, Rose has already done that”
Kids in the lunchroom used to do that "lets pretend we were just leaving" routine a lot when I was in high school. I grew up in a wealthy Massachusetts town. I don' know it this is widespread elsewhere. It was a snub when any kid would approach their table who was not a member of the "in" crowd.
For a second i thought the server was John Cena 0:01
OMG😂
Fr I knew I wasn't alone lmao
Rather new money than no money Ruth 😜
Rose’s mom is so shady lmaoo and I live for it
Ruth was the queen of shade in this movie
ChumChums Roses Mom is raciest for calling molly a vulgar brown woman.
MikeJ 2016 it wasn't meant to be rascist she only said that cause her last name is brown
Luke Goncalves No shit Sherlock it was a fucking joke
Lmaooooo yessss
I just love that bit of upper-class snobbery when one of them says "Here comes that vulgar Brown woman".
Even when I was a kid, that scene was genius because even that young I understood the context of the Countess's comment.
If u see the ending ismay telling the captain why he didn’t light the last four boilers he was pushing the captain too go faster he is the reason they crashed
Snotty beeachs......Molly turned out to the be the best one of them all.
Yeah I didnt like Ruth the countess or the other girl molly was the only good one
Kathy Bates Rocks any role she plays . Loved her in all her movies especially Dolores Claiborne ! 🔥🔥
1912: the purpose of university is to find a suitable husband
2012: the purpose of university is to find a good career so a girl won't have to depend on a man .
Boy have times changed.
tell that to the sugar babies
I think that was a thing up until the 60s.
Molly Brown was so much ahead of time. Real personality! Fits bill like todays start up founders. I like her.
she is the best character in the movie. Love Molly Brown
Molly Brown is one of the most real people I’ve ever seen. Class act. Kathy Bates was amazing in the role. Seemed like a person who would take you in, toss a coat on you for comfort, and just talk.
The hats in this scene are the only reasons why I like it so much 😅
The Countess's costume in this scene is the most gorgeous in the whole film to me.
Omg I just ADORE Ruth
Those hats are bigger than my future...
LOL. Mean Girls, 1912 style.
Who's like me?
When i watch this movie as a kid, i thought Molly was really a toxic woman who people don't like hanging around. Because the way Rose mother treat her is really look like that at the time. Now as an adult, i realize she is the one who is smart around the actual toxic person, Rose mother.
I love this kind of detail in a film.
In reality, there's still a lot of people out there who like to befriend with a toxic person like Rose mother, and seen them as smart. But the actual smart person like Molly is being seen as weird, arrogant, creep, loner and being excluded and ostracized by people.
I don't think so, Molly Brown was quite a educated, nice and friendly person, not to mention charitable and supportive.
No I always knew Molly was nice and Rose's mum and Cal were stuck up twats
“Here comes that vulgar Brown woman.”
“Quickly get up before she sits with us.” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
What happened to Ruth? Cal felt sorry for her loss and helped her financianilly...
which isn't likely. She became a seamstress she dreaded becoming if the
engagement failed OR Ruth married a man who wasn't rich but wasn't poor and
carried on airs at the Church Bazaar. Who knows?
Maybe she married Cal instead as a last act of desperation.
My guess is that she became the pitiful old aunt who lives off the charity of her cousin or something
The hats of the Edwardian era certainly rivals Hedda Hoppers hat collection
Everytime I here an s from Rose's mom It drives me crazy
When you wear a life boat on your head
I wouldn’t be able to wear a lifeboat on my head lol, but if I were ever to travel on a ship, I would bring a dry scuba suit that covers my head and the rest of my body and be ready to put it on at all times throughout the trip.
The countess wasn’t as stuck up as she was portrayed in the movie
This is the premium cool kids table.
Back when it was still socially acceptable for grown women to act like immature children.
Frances Fischer is amazing in this role
Margaret was "new money ", her husband had struck gold(literally)in mining and had made a fortune. She had left school at 13 years old to work at a tobacco factory to support her family.
At 18, she left home to marry a small mine owner, who was poor by mine owner's standards, but they were comfortable and had two children together.
After laws changed and all mines had to give a portion of silver to the government,Margaret's husband started mining for gold as well and got lucky. By the time Margaret sailed on the Titanic, she was fluent in 4 languages, separated from her husband and had a monthly allowance of $700! In other words, she had more wealth, independence and education than any of the women who shunned her.
This scene reflects the "contempt" or low importance of the woman's studies. The most important thing is that the woman was a lady. The important thing for a woman's fulfillment was to "marry well."
Girls and women did get education back then. More than just how to be a wife and mother. They were taught to read and write, learned math and literature. And were encouraged to pursuit the arts like music, dancing, painting, poetry, etc.
Getting married rarely stopped women from having hobbies that made them happy.
What was the music the orchestra was playing in the background
"Poet and Peasant"
Thx
Rochelle Rose who played Noel Leslie. Celebrity crush; 1912 edition.
I need to catch up on my gossip lol
Molly saying that she needed to catch up on her gossip when the others told her they were going for a walk on the boat deck was an obvious shade! (Translation: That's about all you hens do, anyway!)
Fun fac the woman behind Ismay represent the theory of the passenger who hear that Ismay wanted to make the titanic’s speed faster
1912 : "Once a woman has secured a husband, there is no need for attending a university."
2022 : "My daughter has $200K in student debt, a degree that is pure feminist indoctrination, and now no man wants to marry her, so she still lives with us at age 30".
They mean a wealthy well bred husband who is rich
@@babycakes8821 There are too few of those to go around. That is why unofficial polygamy always happens in one form or another.
nailed it
Molly’s like yeah nice try I’m not stupid I know how you type of women you are 🙃
Why so they hate Molly Brown?????
Jaclyn Schilt cause she was what they called a 'new rich', she was born in poverty, her husband had made a fortune in mining very recently.
@@luis_zuniga because she's fat.
Because she's cool!
@@Quasihamster they don't want anybody fat around classy lady's.
Corrie Spence it has nothing to do with her weight they never once implied it. She was “new money” and obviously “annoying” in their eyes and they didn’t like her.
If Smith HAD lit those last four boilers, what difference might the ship going a knot or even half a knot faster have made? It might just have never coincided with that south drifting Iceberg if it sailed past it qurter of an hour sooner.
whe she does this when the ship is sinking... "ma'm you do you realize we're thousands of miles away from land in sub-artic waters... and the ship is sinking"
The true cause of Titanics sinking. All the tea spilled by the first class ladies.
The audacity of Ruth to look down on Molly while she herself was the one who was hanging by a thread.
This scene changed my life
I highly doubt that Madeline Astor and the Countess of Rothes would have been shading Molly Brown, like they did here.
I feel bad for molly shes the most carring and kindess of all the characters.
No room no room no room nooo room No Room
Alice: I thought there plenty of room.
Manhatten: it's very rude to sit down when your not invited
Rat: It's very rude indeed.
Alice I didn't know about that.
“But the purpose of University is to find a suitable husband.. Rose has already done that” ugh!! Ruth cared about Cal’s money more than she cared for her own daughter.
einstein
Ruth is like my ex-stepmother, Debbie. Debbie married then murdered my American dad just for his money! My American Dad married her because he thought she looked attractive, but boy was she uuuuuuuuuug-lee! Both physically and emotionally!
molly best character idc
That’s What Happened In Beau Is Afraid.
Historically, women of society in the West were made to speak very softly so as not to come off as domineering or unlady like. While I'm not particularly loud, I can't imagine speaking this way all of the time.
If we were meant to stay quiet, our voices couldn't break glass.
I don't think you needed to whisper all the time. Just keep your voice down indoors and don't swear like a sailor is what was expected of women back then. Do you want your private conversation heard from across the room?
@@TimberlakeTigerGirl I didn't say anything about whispering.
Emmmmm counters.
Is Frances fisher famous actress?
@@JjangInKyu yes
Crazy how back then women only went to universities to find husbands and to start families and not for educational purposes.
Contrary to popular belief, girls and women did get an education in more than just being a wife and mother. They were taught to read and write, even learn different languages if possible. They were also taught math and literature. And were encouraged to pursuit the arts like music, dancing, painting, etc.
Since women couldn't live independently back then, marrying was their only option to have a stable life. The wealthier the man, the better off the woman was financially. And unless the man was a real prick like Cal, men didn't usually stop their wives from pursuing their hobbies or interests. Would it be hard once she had a baby? Yeah but they could afford a nanny, or had a relative to help care for the baby, the wife can still do her hobbies.
Though I did like the movie it's pity it didn't show any of Margaret's real-life activism and what a warm-hearted woman she was!
0:10 Daniel, The image quality and lighting of the film look very good. what version is the movie? what brand and model is the tv?
0:21 wow the movie
They should have let her sit with them so she could warn them about the dangers of playing foosball.
The way they speak makes me wanna jump off a plane. So slow and dull.
Yeah. they probably think they could be the next monarchs of England!
Rose Mom is such a weird Lady
All for the money .. yuk
Rose is the only person I would have wanted to hang out with lol
… and they thought they could get rid of her. 😂😂😂
Margaret Brown sounds like a cowboy😂
Molly seems very Working Class even though she is in 1st class
She did work her way up. Unlike those other women.
For all Men who think Women were good back then and became snakes today
This scene reminds us that it was not at all different when it came to toxic girls
These 3 girls in the scene are essentially the original Mean Girls from 1912
I hate the post Victorian world before the 1920s. It was just too much, too proper.
They wouldn’t have called her Countess, they would’ve called her Lady Rothes
I watched the Titanic film in Turkish, and it says: "Oh that dirty-mouthed woman is coming" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Those women were being rude to Molly.
They hated her
Awww when Molly says "Countess" all smiling n sweet. Those bitches :P
^ The truly remarkable thing about Molly is how hardy and strong a person she was. She was no idiot, and knew perfectly well the resentment those catty women had for her. But she didn't care. She made a conscious choice to put contact with people and enjoyment of her time on Titanic (before that fateful night) at the forefront despite everything else. It takes an incredibly strong emotional maturity to do that. I'm sure Molly knew that she only had to put up with these people for the next few days, and then assuming the Titanic had made it to New York, she would never have had to have contact with any of them ever again.
Come to find out that that lovely lady and black is The second richest person in that room
Who's beside the countess rothes?
In the table, there's Rutch DeWitt Bukater and Madeline Astor
Madame Aubert. She’s Benjamin Guggenheim mistress. You see her again durning the dinner scene.
@@AlexS-oj8qf She's not Madeleine, it's Madame Aubert, Benjamin Guggenheim Mistress. She appear again later during the dinner and didn't have any lines
@@AlexS-oj8qf it's Ruth, not Rutch which you spell it wrong.
There are few parts I could hate in this movie, though Titianic is the spectacular, drama romance movie based on the real-life Titanic sinking in 1912, but this one is downright rude. I mean Ruth immediately finished off her tea party with the friends right before Molly was about to join? What is wrong with that woman?! Molly is a nice supportive passenger, and a supporting character in the movie. What was Ruth thinking?
Basically my school years
What is the name of the song playing in the background
We’re making excellent time!
What happened to Ruth in the present day ?
Ended up in the poor house after losing her meal ticket (Rose) on Titanic.
The unsinkable Molly brown
ROSE BECOMES FROM ARISTOCRATIC WOMAN TO A TYPE OF CAN-CAN DANCER WHICH I TALK ABOUT IN A VIDEO ON MY CHANNEL
0:12 Hey!! That is soo mean:-( Ruth truly is a bitch! 😠😠
I don't understand why Molly wanted to associate with those small-minded women anyway.