Yeah I don’t even know how to judge this as a movie. As much as I may agree with the messaging, it really is just telling you the message rather than being an actual story that happens to contain a message.
I understand how you might feel the way you do about the film. I saw it and have read a few reviews since, and others have said that it would have been better as a docuseries. I’ve also read the book, and it is much too comprehensive for even a two and a half hour movie. The movie is beautifully done and the acting is superb, but I felt that the factual material was rushed. I highly recommend reading the book to be able to pull it all together. Isabel Wilkerson is a brilliant writer.
hey! i really appreciate your review! i’ve been DYING to see this movie because i wanna see if it worked. i know one of the selling points of the movie was to blur the line between narrative and documentary, i just need to see it for myself to get a feel for it. That being said, i think you did a good job for a difficult situation, i can’t imagine being unprepared for a movie like this lol. as a black girl film major, thanks for reviewing!
I totally agree on this feeling like it would have made a better documentary, but that wasn't even my biggest gripe with the movie. I thought it intellecually had a great hook, that racism can be more fundamentally understood through the lens of caste...but then it didn't really have anything more to say, other than "racism & caste systems are bad." Why not delve more meaningfully into one of the specific pillars brought up? If this is going to be a narrative-driven film & not a documentary, I would have loved a story about the first pillar, how the caste system is enforced by limiting marriage & mating. But as it was, the narrative segments just felt like her telling people, "you don't get it," before launching into the well-meaning message driven segments.
Yes it felt like a lecture not telling a story, ...shot in grainy 16mm , was shocked how poor the cinematography was, film looked just awful. By the way this liberal lecture was financed by Melinda Gates lecturing us that America is a caste sytem, which is BS, half the audience walked out, I absolutely hated this movie. To base an entire film on Wilkerson's book as fact, nobody in America , especially blacks, can ever rise above the class they were born into , like in India, need to read Thomas Sowell or pay attention to reality, ... how do you explain Black Entreprenuers, Black Lawyers, Black Drs, Barack Obama, Kamala Harris, Oprah, Jay Z, the NBA, the NFL...etc.... that a black person in America is equal to a person in an Indian Caste system where a person lowered into an open sewer of waste, and can never rise above that? is ridiculous. That people hate America , Our Constitution this much is sad, that people want to be forever victims is sad. America banned slavery, we have civil rights, there are places in the world that slavery still exists right now, but bash America, where we have the right to pursue life liberty & the pursuit of happiness. This film Origin is trash. Worst movie I ever saw, poorly directed, too grainy, lack of storytelling, this is not why people go to the movies.
Yeah I don’t even know how to judge this as a movie. As much as I may agree with the messaging, it really is just telling you the message rather than being an actual story that happens to contain a message.
I think that is what it was shot in 16mmish style drama/documentary to have that impact.
I thought it was really good.
Same. I don’t understand these reviewers. I am reading Yellowface and it resonates with some of the reviews I am seeing.
What were you expecting to see? Mean Girls? Or Argylle?
Argylle
Bored? Bored! This was boring? You can't even pronounce the names of the actors. At the end you mispronounce the title. You have work to do.
I understand how you might feel the way you do about the film. I saw it and have read a few reviews since, and others have said that it would have been better as a docuseries. I’ve also read the book, and it is much too comprehensive for even a two and a half hour movie. The movie is beautifully done and the acting is superb, but I felt that the factual material was rushed. I highly recommend reading the book to be able to pull it all together. Isabel Wilkerson is a brilliant writer.
hey! i really appreciate your review! i’ve been DYING to see this movie because i wanna see if it worked. i know one of the selling points of the movie was to blur the line between narrative and documentary, i just need to see it for myself to get a feel for it. That being said, i think you did a good job for a difficult situation, i can’t imagine being unprepared for a movie like this lol. as a black girl film major, thanks for reviewing!
I totally agree on this feeling like it would have made a better documentary, but that wasn't even my biggest gripe with the movie. I thought it intellecually had a great hook, that racism can be more fundamentally understood through the lens of caste...but then it didn't really have anything more to say, other than "racism & caste systems are bad." Why not delve more meaningfully into one of the specific pillars brought up? If this is going to be a narrative-driven film & not a documentary, I would have loved a story about the first pillar, how the caste system is enforced by limiting marriage & mating. But as it was, the narrative segments just felt like her telling people, "you don't get it," before launching into the well-meaning message driven segments.
I love how you gesticulate
This was also the screen unseen movie at amc and 95 percent of my theatre walked out when they found out
You're full of it man 😂
Solid review on Ava’s Origin 👍🏾
Jai bhim ❤❤❤
Yes it felt like a lecture not telling a story, ...shot in grainy 16mm , was shocked how poor the cinematography was, film looked just awful. By the way this liberal lecture was financed by Melinda Gates lecturing us that America is a caste sytem, which is BS, half the audience walked out, I absolutely hated this movie. To base an entire film on Wilkerson's book as fact, nobody in America , especially blacks, can ever rise above the class they were born into , like in India, need to read Thomas Sowell or pay attention to reality, ... how do you explain Black Entreprenuers, Black Lawyers, Black Drs, Barack Obama, Kamala Harris, Oprah, Jay Z, the NBA, the NFL...etc.... that a black person in America is equal to a person in an Indian Caste system where a person lowered into an open sewer of waste, and can never rise above that? is ridiculous. That people hate America , Our Constitution this much is sad, that people want to be forever victims is sad. America banned slavery, we have civil rights, there are places in the world that slavery still exists right now, but bash America, where we have the right to pursue life liberty & the pursuit of happiness. This film Origin is trash. Worst movie I ever saw, poorly directed, too grainy, lack of storytelling, this is not why people go to the movies.