this is a great evidence that vha-venda and kalangas or shona were once the kings of southern africa before the europeans, but it is disregarded today by sellout
it is probably the other way round, that the Mapungubweans where the ancestors of the builders of Great Zimbabwe, however point remains that the cultures architecture and customs are closely related.
@@raymondchikuku1809 It is not disputed that the modern day Venda are related to the Great Zimbabweans. Before the Ndebele and Shangani migrated North, the link would be visible into central Zimbabwe and vice versa. Just look at Venda customs and even language. These borders are colonial inventions. B
The Shona-Karanga (Gumanye clusters), and the Kalanga (Leopard’s Kopje clusters) are just two components of one people, the mighty Gokomere culture. Another component of the Gokomere culture is their Ziwa brethren in the north east of the Zimbabwe plateau, who are known as the Barwe/Sena/Lower Zambezi Tonga. The Gokomere are the ancestors of the people now known as the Shona-Karanga, Kalanga, Venda, and Sena. They all worship one God named Mwari/Mwali/Nwali, and have the same pottery, and a similar language and tradition. Pathisa Nyathi, a so-called ‘Ndebele’ historian, wrote in his book named “Zimbabwe’s cultural heritage” that it was the Shona-Karanga/Gumanye led by former feuding prince, Torwa, from Great Zimbabwe, who migrated west to Guruuswa around 1450 and built the Khami stone city among their Kalanga brethren. The people who now speak dialects known as Zezuru, Manica, korekore, Karanga, Chinyubi, Chinambiya, and other Kalanga dialects are all Karanga or Shona. Some of the Venda people, including their rulers, and many Sena people are also Shona as they share the same ancestry with the Karanga, but their language has changed a little because of immigrants. These people all revere their ancestor, Murenga Pfumojena Sororenzou (Shona-Karanga) / Thohoyandou (Venda) / Shologulu (Kalanga) / Mulengi - Nyakulenga (Sena). Their God is Mwari/Nwali/Mwali.
@Heru Behudety Are you from same people who have never set foot in Africa, but like to call africans colored people? Or are you those born outside of Africa who are lazy to visit the continent and do informed archeological research themselves on the ground(Africa), but instead use google map from stupid idiots online and arrongantly call themselves Africa experts?🐐mphehehehehehehe
+Langelihle Msipha definitely not white south Africans, they should stay away from my people's history....the borders between Zim and SA were placed wrong, now shona people can't even claim their property because it's now in so called South Africa
+Light Yagami Gee I wonder what they were called in the 11th century before they became "Venda", before they were separated from the other" Venda" people on the other side of the border,Kalanga and the Shona people....Mapungubwe name can be translated in those languages, VhaVenda also share a common ancestor with them and there are other Ruins just like Mapungubwe mostly located on the Zim side and a portion of Botswana (Kalanga people)....Shiriyadenga to me is a 'Shona' name (VhaVenda ancestor)...bird of the heavens...Great Zimbambwe is OG name "Dzimbadzemabwe"....Are you Venda??ask your elders why they crossed the Limpopo river, you might learn something about yourself
It is sad that pure scientific and archaeological finds should be tainted by political rhetoric. Items such as this should rather be presented by qualified anthropologists which has a respect for facts
That's impossible. Any former colony in the entire world will forever be in political debate because we are currently unraveling lies that were told for centuries.
@@design_with_xoliswa yes Kongolese are Bantu but they are a different people. The Bakongo are not the same as the Shona/Karanga, Kalanga, Venda and Sena the actual people who built these structures. Bantu is a language group not a race or ethnicity.
@@design_with_xoliswa I know in the kongo they have their own dry stone walling. I hate how other races of people are trying to make it seem it was unique to africa. I'm shona a samanyika I have read encyclopedias 4 volumes of all the recorded dry stone monuments in south and central africa 11327 to be exact all recorded and the tribes they belong too. There are more than 20 linguistic bantu tribes that did dry stone walling. I found these books in harare library in 2016. I took photos of the ones I found realy interesting. Africa has so much history yet it seems there is a force trying to stop us for celebrating what belongs to us.
Now there is a new discovery, The Kweneng city near Johannesburg.
A Bantu achievement
Thank you for this very informative video essay . They can’t hide our history forever . 💙💜
this is a great evidence that vha-venda and kalangas or shona were once the kings of southern africa before the europeans, but it is disregarded today by sellout
You must write your own history, don't wait for someone else to write it for you
Facts
Amazing!
it is probably the other way round, that the Mapungubweans where the ancestors of the builders of Great Zimbabwe, however point remains that the cultures architecture and customs are closely related.
That's what the video says. The Great Zimbabwe was the main kingdom and then as people dispersed they built mini versions of it where they settled.
@@GlobalBlackHistory there is a well recognized theory that the Mpangubweans deserted their plateau and migrated to Masvingo.
@@GlobalBlackHistory check this documentary out ruclips.net/video/Ronz49AL8x8/видео.html
@@raymondchikuku1809 It is not disputed that the modern day Venda are related to the Great Zimbabweans. Before the Ndebele and Shangani migrated North, the link would be visible into central Zimbabwe and vice versa. Just look at Venda customs and even language. These borders are colonial inventions. B
It's the Kongo kingdoms, all the Bantus are Kongolese.
The Shona-Karanga (Gumanye clusters), and the Kalanga (Leopard’s Kopje clusters) are just two components of one people, the mighty Gokomere culture. Another component of the Gokomere culture is their Ziwa brethren in the north east of the Zimbabwe plateau, who are known as the Barwe/Sena/Lower Zambezi Tonga. The Gokomere are the ancestors of the people now known as the Shona-Karanga, Kalanga, Venda, and Sena. They all worship one God named Mwari/Mwali/Nwali, and have the same pottery, and a similar language and tradition. Pathisa Nyathi, a so-called ‘Ndebele’ historian, wrote in his book named “Zimbabwe’s cultural heritage” that it was the Shona-Karanga/Gumanye led by former feuding prince, Torwa, from Great Zimbabwe, who migrated west to Guruuswa around 1450 and built the Khami stone city among their Kalanga brethren. The people who now speak dialects known as Zezuru, Manica, korekore, Karanga, Chinyubi, Chinambiya, and other Kalanga dialects are all Karanga or Shona. Some of the Venda people, including their rulers, and many Sena people are also Shona as they share the same ancestry with the Karanga, but their language has changed a little because of immigrants. These people all revere their ancestor, Murenga Pfumojena Sororenzou (Shona-Karanga) / Thohoyandou (Venda) / Shologulu (Kalanga) / Mulengi - Nyakulenga (Sena). Their God is Mwari/Nwali/Mwali.
Celtic ruins in Africa perhaps. Because its architectural style is very similar.
@@sr.iluminado8606 🤦🏿♂️🤣🤣💀
@@sr.iluminado8606you’re dumb
Thulamela and Mapungubwe are Ancient Venda kingdoms, though closely related to Shonas, they are totally different.
Tribalism is not good. We are all African.
@Heru Behudety Are you from same people who have never set foot in Africa, but like to call africans colored people? Or are you those born outside of Africa who are lazy to visit the continent and do informed archeological research themselves on the ground(Africa), but instead use google map from stupid idiots online and arrongantly call themselves Africa experts?🐐mphehehehehehehe
Vendas are shona people if you know your history well
It's very unfortunate that in south Africa, blacks were not allowed to know their history and it's a pity
Your history is very poor. Shona people built Mapungubwe and the other ruins in southern Africa. Vendas are shona people
people should start looking for the truth,both black and white south africans.
White South Africans?
+Langelihle Msipha definitely not white south Africans, they should stay away from my people's history....the borders between Zim and SA were placed wrong, now shona people can't even claim their property because it's now in so called South Africa
Which property? Mapungubwe belongs to the Venda people of South Africa.
don't make a black on black foolishness here... it belongs to all blacks...
+Light Yagami Gee I wonder what they were called in the 11th century before they became "Venda", before they were separated from the other" Venda" people on the other side of the border,Kalanga and the Shona people....Mapungubwe name can be translated in those languages, VhaVenda also share a common ancestor with them and there are other Ruins just like Mapungubwe mostly located on the Zim side and a portion of Botswana (Kalanga people)....Shiriyadenga to me is a 'Shona' name (VhaVenda ancestor)...bird of the heavens...Great Zimbambwe is OG name "Dzimbadzemabwe"....Are you Venda??ask your elders why they crossed the Limpopo river, you might learn something about yourself
Mapungubwe and thulamela is venda history
Venda, Kalanga, Shona/Karanga and Sena are all related. We are desandants of the Gokomere culture, literally cultures are very very close.
It is sad that pure scientific and archaeological finds should be tainted by political rhetoric. Items such as this should rather be presented by qualified anthropologists which has a respect for facts
That's impossible. Any former colony in the entire world will forever be in political debate because we are currently unraveling lies that were told for centuries.
Anything but Africans 😂😒💀
Venda history not Shona
Khoe Khwe 1st nation
chippi chippi
chappa chappa
Southern Africa is the Kingdom of Kongo
Bantus are Kongolese and Kongolese built these kingdoms.
Huh?? The Kongo Kingdom was in Angola that's not Southern Africa.
@@design_with_xoliswa yes Kongolese are Bantu but they are a different people. The Bakongo are not the same as the Shona/Karanga, Kalanga, Venda and Sena the actual people who built these structures. Bantu is a language group not a race or ethnicity.
@@design_with_xoliswa I know in the kongo they have their own dry stone walling. I hate how other races of people are trying to make it seem it was unique to africa. I'm shona a samanyika I have read encyclopedias 4 volumes of all the recorded dry stone monuments in south and central africa 11327 to be exact all recorded and the tribes they belong too. There are more than 20 linguistic bantu tribes that did dry stone walling. I found these books in harare library in 2016. I took photos of the ones I found realy interesting. Africa has so much history yet it seems there is a force trying to stop us for celebrating what belongs to us.
Your history is wrong
Celtic ruins in Africa perhaps. Because its architectural style is very similar.
No it’s not
You’re dumb