Thanks for sharing! Nice to see what appears to be a common sense restoration effort, with an insight into the thought and execution process. Can't wait to see all subsequent episodes!
It amazes me how clean the springs are. My 59 had its original cover on it and when I removed it the springs were rusty as all hell. Great find man, looking forward to seeing the finished product!
Probably the best guitar I ever had was a 59 body with a 58 neck It had a great V profile Unfortunately I fell under the SRV Rosewood spell and got a 64 w a veneer L series transition model At least I had it to enjoy for a few years We should all do "Guitar Memoirs" I've had some killer gear over the years Good stuff Nik
I have seen some videos dealing with old fenders, and some mount the pick guard onto a block of wood, keeping it from "shrinking" when off the body. Not sure if it applies to your project, but it sounds like a good precaution.
@@theriffwniksevigny5473 Ahh right - had to look again, for some reason, thought 57. There are some sassafras bodies out there but likely ash on yours. I'm sure your finisher can ID the wood.
Got excited to see the scratch plate off and cloth wire exposed man what a beautiful guitar I can't wait to see job done and hear it played just on bit though you said rusty magnet's but it rusty pole piece yes?
Nik it is going to be hard to work around that decal shellac is a good primer for most finishes so you might be able to spray over it without damaging that decal.they are crazy fragile
I agree with the neck matching up with the back of the headstock , but when was this refinished ? Because anything can happen during that time they most likely took the neck off and then that piece could have matched up. I agree with your statement but it would be more having to rely on the stamps
Well luckily the neck pocket was an over sprayed and was taped off so it’s still retains all of the original finish inside. And yes I agree every factor adds up to help authentication
That body date is loud and proud. Love me some guitar archaeology vids, but don't stop your other content. The interviews you've done with Simo and Sayce are some of the best anywhere. Love the channel Nik.
@@theriffwniksevigny5473 when things age they age very specifically. certain spots are prone to some things while others arent. low e always had a low e on it and it will be worn in that way. same thing goes for every screw, like the higher guard screws where they would be more corroded because of palm sweat. please be VERY careful. the second you put one screw in the wrong place and have to replace one because you stripped it lowers its value. if you dont care about resale then it's whatever, but just keep that in mind as you take on this project. there arent as many 57 strats out there.
@@ianrothery8200 he said this one wasn't played much. Also, he's restoring this to play, not to resell. I do get your point, because if a screw or tuner wears uniquely because of the specific position its in, you'd want it in the same place when it goes back together. OTOH, for a guitar that's aged from sitting around mostly idle, or that has an absolutely hideous refinish like this one had, I can't see it being much of an issue.
Awesome start. It's interesting that someone would have wasted the time to sand off the original finish when obviously they didnt have a clue as to what they were doing. And why would they have tried to replicate the burst? What do you think Nik?
I just saw a guy do a fret job on an old 50's neck. You might already be aware but those frets should be tapped out from 1 side rather than pulled up. Every little bit helps.
And yes neck plates and what have you sat in a bin and the one's on top of the pile got grabbed first Just the way it was back then Their not going to dig into the pile to get the perfect matching pieces Great find Man if I didn't have a GF LoL 😂 I would totally spend my extra dollars and attention on vintage gear and pieces I'm not saying that's all you do Just saying Awesome 👌 It is an ugly refund and probably the reason it didn't sell right away So just strip it and play it for a while till it's time to do right I like the 3 tone with red faded away cause of that paint flaw I need to find a good regret guy down here I central Florida Really excited for you my friend LoL I live vicariously through you Ha Ha all good and Congratulations 👍
Hi nik i have a roadworn strat but struggle a bit with the 7.25 radius and the frets that are on it.what is the best frets to do a refret to make it abit easier and more playable.
jsalmon yeah i love the neck really comfortable just the frets are pretty worn and frets out on bends alot so just wondering if there is any specific frets that may make it more playable and tweedbud im not sure bu i think they may have been 6105 when new just the frets were pretty worn wen i got it
Are these worth more when there brought back to how they use to look, Or do u just do it so you’re 57 Strat doesn’t look like it came from a Strat pack in the 80’s
vintage players are fun and great. you can actually put a screwdriver to them without people screaming *GASSSP* NOO!!! WHAT ARE YOU DOING!!!???? Where as a pristine '57 you can't even breathe on it without devaluation or or people accusing you of such because you aren't wearing white gloves. It's the ability to have a great old instrument and return it great playing condition. ALSO: I'm sure you are aware that fender used to run frets in sideways and traditional fret moval will induce some chipping. Some people don't mind, so people try and remove the frets back out sideways. If these aren't the original frets anyways then no worries
did everything look like it was un-soldered? i was under the impression that you want the solder joints to be original as possible? excellent though - always wanted to find something like this.... as i'm sure most do I can't believe someone painted it like that and was like.....eh, i'm good with this....put on the clear
You know, if you're buying a collector grade, you want nothing touched, at all. Solder joints being one way to tell, though they can be faked. The collectors will put up with things possibly not working perfectly for sake of originality. This will be a player grade, refin+refret, but it has the makings of a very, very nice player instrument. I would not hesitate to replace any worn parts necessary to bring it to 100% functional.
Everything needed to be addressed. The guitar was in a barn for years. Pots needed to be thoroughly cleaned. Switch adjusted. So. Some things need to be undone to make right
That would have poly in the routes. Never mind the tooling marks, contour thickness, and route depths. Sorry. Its a 100% authentic 1957 Stratocaster, with a horrible refin
Check out the chocolate burst Strat on instagram named houdini I am sure you have seen it before. It is ash I believe. its the best looking "chocolate burst" I've ever seen.
Hi Nick I had a question. When you refinish a guitar and strip the finish does this take away some of the wood of the body? I’m interested as SRV Lenny body had been refinished and they said because of this the body was thinner? Always interested me. Great video thanks
Before watching: I would figure anyone without the expertise to do a refine wouldn't have the expertise remove the finish underneath, so I'd be hopeful Edit: Big big sad :c
this doesn't look like an original 57. I sold my 62 original strat for $17,000.00. I purchased the guitar used in 64 for $275. I attended the meeting with the appraiser that represented the purchaser to verify that it was original. He looked at the infield of the guitar under the pick guard and talked about the automotive paint that was used and the primer. He focused on the over-spray behind the nails that suspended the guitar for painting. this was considered one the main points that maid it authentic. Very hard to fake. Note, on your guitar these are covered by the red paint. another point is your guitar has very little fret wear. On my 62 the higher frets were worn the neck wood. Also why isn't your pick guard yellow like the pickups. Not normal. somebody made a mess of this old fender.
So. It is an original 57 strat. Many later 57 guitars, and common in 58, had yellowing of the covers and knobs. Its the materials used. I appreciate the story. Sounds really cool. As noted this guitar received a horrible refin but, retained its original parts through the years. Thank you for your assessment , but i am real confident in this guitar, its all i deal with. Thanks!
Sorry but, buyer beware on refinished vintage guitars. I want mine flat out Vintage. Fender made a mistake [no, not really] when they started their Vintage Relic department where they actually have jobs making guitars like the one you start with. Fix hardware as needed and leave the rest alone. Buy a new Fender if you want a perfect looking guitar.
What am i ruining? The finish that was already removed? The frets that were worn? All of the parts are original and still functional The value was thrown out the window when the entire guitar was covered in shellac after a horrible refinish. No breaks. No extra routes, i shouldnt restore that? Im interested to know
You should treat that piece of history with some respect using a drill on a guitar is like killing a fly with a machine gun it dosent take long to use a screwdriver just like they did in 57
I would have been careful to keep those tuners in order of where they were removed from. But whatever, it's your guitar. I've actually already watched your next video of this series. The wear on the neck doesn't look natural. FYI, it looks like some of the over-zealous aging work via some of the Fender Custom Shop folks doing recreations. To be more specific, look at the fingerboard wear at the highest frets. Seriously, who ever wore the fretboard at the 21st fret at the bass strings? Nobody. While your guitar looks exceptional, I suspect it isn't an original 50's strat. Some of the wear doesn't jive. It's suspect to me. It looks like a very high quality fake made by someone who is very knowledgeable about how to make a very convincing fake. Either that, or it's a Fender Custom Shop guitar that someone is trying to pass as an original (after doing some addition aging effects). For your sake, I hope I'm wrong. But that is my assessment.
Regarding the tuners, besides the E and E tuners, they are all the same, size and function. If you watched the video, you would see the neck blacklight out and the removal of old shellac. The fingerboard wear on the last few frets is from the picking hand. Quite common on maple board guitars (keith, ronnie wood, ronnie earl, roy) I appreciate your unsolicited assessment of the guitar. But, to your dismay, it is in fact a 1957 stratocaster. Its seen some playing, and will continue to see some playing!
@@theriffwniksevigny5473 I'm not dismayed at all. Congrats on scoring such a rare instrument. Mostly, I'm glad this instrument will actually be played. A guitar regulated to live its existence behind glass must be a very sad guitar. I'm glad you are going to play this one. Enjoy.
Hahaha. Yea. Well. The routes contours , shape and weight are much different on the 70’s. Plus the 3 bolt neck. On top of that, the pickups the pots. 1957 neck and Neck plate and tweed case all dated to 57 ! Good detective work tho!
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Very cool project, thanks for sharing
A walk back in time.....great video. I was born in '57.
Luv my '88 reissue (62) Strat!
Thanks for sharing! Nice to see what appears to be a common sense restoration effort, with an insight into the thought and execution process. Can't wait to see all subsequent episodes!
LOL "moments you'll never get back "..indeed! I bet you were lovin' every fleck!
What a find! Amazingly original. Can’t wait to see the full restoration!
Awesome project. Great video.
this is pretty fun, thanks for sharing this!
Thank YOU for watching!
This guitar is just few months younger than my dad, he was born in july 56. He was little baby when people already played stratocasters.
I'm excited for this one!
What a great project.
my heart dropped when you grabbed that bridge pickup!
Can’t get enough of these archeology vids they’re great, keep em coming.
Great to see this project in competent hands. 👍🏻
My burnt '57 has been a best friend for fifty years now.
This is some really cool stuff Nik. Thank you for letting me geek out with you over your gorgeous vintage guitar.
So cool
It amazes me how clean the springs are. My 59 had its original cover on it and when I removed it the springs were rusty as all hell. Great find man, looking forward to seeing the finished product!
Good work man. Make it what it should be.
I also like to buy vintage guitars that need help and restore them.
Probably the best guitar I ever had was a 59 body with a 58 neck It had a great V profile Unfortunately I fell under the SRV Rosewood spell and got a 64 w a veneer L series transition model At least I had it to enjoy for a few years We should all do "Guitar Memoirs" I've had some killer gear over the years Good stuff Nik
Dude this is so cool! That neck's overspray doesn't look half bad, but that refin is horrendous. I can't wait to hear how it plays
I have seen some videos dealing with old fenders, and some mount the pick guard onto a block of wood, keeping it from "shrinking" when off the body. Not sure if it applies to your project, but it sounds like a good precaution.
The single layer guards are abs plastic and will not shrink like the nitrate 3 layer ones
Learn something every day. Thanks!
Very cool man! Cant wait to keep my eye on this one!
That’s a piece of ASH!!! Hahaha great find Nick!!! Can’t wait to hear it once you have it all set up and rockin! Go live with that jammy!
Thanks for the content 👍🤘 diggin that strat ...cant wait to see and hear that thing 😁
My buddy just bought an early 57 and had it refin nicely by Bravewood and turned out it’s an ash body too 👍🏼 pretty cool !
Nik, that body may actually be Sassafras. Same as Eric Johnson's 57.
Thats a 54
@@theriffwniksevigny5473 Ahh right - had to look again, for some reason, thought 57. There are some sassafras bodies out there but likely ash on yours. I'm sure your finisher can ID the wood.
Got excited to see the scratch plate off and cloth wire exposed man what a beautiful guitar I can't wait to see job done and hear it played just on bit though you said rusty magnet's but it rusty pole piece yes?
Yea. Its a magnet
sweet lord... loving this...
Good stuff man. Thanks for the content.
Dude that's a cool project!
I can't wait to see more!!
awesome
Nik it is going to be hard to work around that decal shellac is a good primer for most finishes so you might be able to spray over it without damaging that decal.they are crazy fragile
Stay tuned for the next video!
Most keep track of the positions that the screws came out of
I just finished building an ash body Strat and put a V neck on it, love it! I just subbed so I can follow your work.
Great one,mate! Keep it up!
Sweet brother
I agree with the neck matching up with the back of the headstock , but when was this refinished ? Because anything can happen during that time they most likely took the neck off and then that piece could have matched up. I agree with your statement but it would be more having to rely on the stamps
Well luckily the neck pocket was an over sprayed and was taped off so it’s still retains all of the original finish inside.
And yes I agree every factor adds up to help authentication
Nice piece of ash
How did it end up?
Did you make a ‘PART 2’ video?
very nice
Ash - could it have been a blonde / Mary Kaye strat originally then?
GREAT CONTENT
That body date is loud and proud.
Love me some guitar archaeology vids, but don't stop your other content. The interviews you've done with Simo and Sayce are some of the best anywhere.
Love the channel Nik.
You took the tuners off but didn’t label them so can put them back in the same spot. I’ve seen others do that way yours is just random.
Besides the E and E, all of the tuners are the same. So..?
@@theriffwniksevigny5473 when things age they age very specifically. certain spots are prone to some things while others arent. low e always had a low e on it and it will be worn in that way. same thing goes for every screw, like the higher guard screws where they would be more corroded because of palm sweat.
please be VERY careful. the second you put one screw in the wrong place and have to replace one because you stripped it lowers its value. if you dont care about resale then it's whatever, but just keep that in mind as you take on this project. there arent as many 57 strats out there.
@@ianrothery8200 he said this one wasn't played much. Also, he's restoring this to play, not to resell. I do get your point, because if a screw or tuner wears uniquely because of the specific position its in, you'd want it in the same place when it goes back together. OTOH, for a guitar that's aged from sitting around mostly idle, or that has an absolutely hideous refinish like this one had, I can't see it being much of an issue.
Awesome start. It's interesting that someone would have wasted the time to sand off the
original finish when obviously they didnt have a clue as to what they were doing.
And why would they have tried to replicate the burst? What do you think Nik?
Not sure. But they were careful and didnt do any horrible sanding. Contours and edges are incredible
that refin hurts my eyes hahaha. Great vid nik!!!
Close them
The Riff w Nik Sevigny hahahahah
I just saw a guy do a fret job on an old 50's neck. You might already be aware but those frets should be tapped out from 1 side rather than pulled up. Every little bit helps.
Ive about 4 videos on here, refretting 50’s fenders
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@@theriffwniksevigny5473 😂 Sorry. I'm new here.
Bro that would be a beautiful EC Blackie copy with a nice refin
Anthony Clarke NO!
Be sure to tap those frets out sideways. DO NOT pull them up. They were installed from the bass side. Tap them out the same way.
Check my esquire refret video.
That's bad ash!! *cue laughter*
And yes neck plates and what have you sat in a bin and the one's on top of the pile got grabbed first Just the way it was back then Their not going to dig into the pile to get the perfect matching pieces Great find Man if I didn't have a GF LoL 😂 I would totally spend my extra dollars and attention on vintage gear and pieces I'm not saying that's all you do Just saying Awesome 👌 It is an ugly refund and probably the reason it didn't sell right away So just strip it and play it for a while till it's time to do right I like the 3 tone with red faded away cause of that paint flaw I need to find a good regret guy down here I central Florida Really excited for you my friend LoL I live vicariously through you Ha Ha all good and Congratulations 👍
Hi nik i have a roadworn strat but struggle a bit with the 7.25 radius and the frets that are on it.what is the best frets to do a refret to make it abit easier and more playable.
6105 stainless steel i believe
Subjective. Are your frets worn down? 7.25 is super comfortable for thumb over hendrix chording
jsalmon yeah i love the neck really comfortable just the frets are pretty worn and frets out on bends alot so just wondering if there is any specific frets that may make it more playable and tweedbud im not sure bu i think they may have been 6105 when new just the frets were pretty worn wen i got it
Have a luthier re-radius the board flatter to 12", then get 6100 SS frets, and get a Plek
@@ralpherl5657 how much does something like that normally cost
Wow thanks for the break down. What a beautiful example. One day I shall have one too lol. After the fret job how do you plan to finish the fretboard?
The fretboard was scraped and kept the original finish
Damn where do u find these guitars. Not anywhere wheee I’m from. Nice find? How much paid/worth?
Neck plate has two different numbers. Is that the serial #?
How much did you pay for it? cool guitar!
Are these worth more when there brought back to how they use to look, Or do u just do it so you’re 57 Strat doesn’t look like it came from a Strat pack in the 80’s
I would love to have that neck. It is the same as Clapton's Blackie with the sharp V shape.
You have sausage fingers like me. Tough to get a ring that big ain’t it? We won’t be playing mandolin anytime soon. Lol
Could do a black strat?
Wonder what a stock ‘57 strat cost. I’m sure it’s not cheap
If you don’t mind me asking, where do you find things like this? Reverb? eBay?
This one was purchased from a woman in Beaumont TX. Private sale. But i do most of my shopping on Reverb, Ebay and Craigslist!
vintage players are fun and great. you can actually put a screwdriver to them without people screaming *GASSSP* NOO!!! WHAT ARE YOU DOING!!!???? Where as a pristine '57 you can't even breathe on it without devaluation or or people accusing you of such because you aren't wearing white gloves. It's the ability to have a great old instrument and return it great playing condition.
ALSO: I'm sure you are aware that fender used to run frets in sideways and traditional fret moval will induce some chipping. Some people don't mind, so people try and remove the frets back out sideways. If these aren't the original frets anyways then no worries
I’ll buy it Bro . How much ?
Where is the followup video?
There have been a few. Just check out the channel
Billy Joel sold me some shellac-ac-ac-ac-ac-ac-ac-ac!
Speaking of Mr Joel. Did u see tmz? He was just rushed to the hospital...
They think it was a heart attack-ack-ack-etc
You outta know by now.
What can you get something like this for ?
Where‘s the string tree?
Removed it
did everything look like it was un-soldered? i was under the impression that you want the solder joints to be original as possible? excellent though - always wanted to find something like this.... as i'm sure most do
I can't believe someone painted it like that and was like.....eh, i'm good with this....put on the clear
You know, if you're buying a collector grade, you want nothing touched, at all. Solder joints being one way to tell, though they can be faked. The collectors will put up with things possibly not working perfectly for sake of originality. This will be a player grade, refin+refret, but it has the makings of a very, very nice player instrument. I would not hesitate to replace any worn parts necessary to bring it to 100% functional.
Everything needed to be addressed. The guitar was in a barn for years. Pots needed to be thoroughly cleaned. Switch adjusted. So. Some things need to be undone to make right
The Riff w Nik Sevigny gotcha! Not being critical i was just wondering
I'd love to see you blacklight the trini lopez man.
Soon!
Seriously Nik, sell me that guitar.
Sent you a few pictures, if you got them idk...??
Yep. I'm pretty sure that's a 1985 Japanese made Fender.
That would have poly in the routes. Never mind the tooling marks, contour thickness, and route depths. Sorry.
Its a 100% authentic 1957 Stratocaster, with a horrible refin
Check out the chocolate burst Strat on instagram named houdini I am sure you have seen it before. It is ash I believe. its the best looking "chocolate burst" I've ever seen.
Pickups spec ???
1957
@@theriffwniksevigny5473 Thanks but by using a Multimeter for each pickup ? it should be around 6.02 ohms ?
Kian Hendrick north wound. 50s mid 5k
Hi Nik really enjoy your videos keep them coming I want to see what's under that horrible refin. :)
Hi Nick I had a question. When you refinish a guitar and strip the finish does this take away some of the wood of the body? I’m interested as SRV Lenny body had been refinished and they said because of this the body was thinner? Always interested me. Great video thanks
Scott F Thanks for the detailed explanation. So really you would loose some of the body wood when you sand it so it’s not as thick as before?
I would of had a hard time touching anything on the pickgaurd. Would have left it all intact.
Ahh right, So what do you do when the pot and switch are frozen.... Just stare at it?
I would never touch this like that ! Let it in its mojo ..
7:09 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
What should a person expect to pay for a guitar in this condition?
Imagine dropping that during disassembly, and neck snaps in half. Just typing that makes my stomach drop.
Its a fender. That wouldn’t happen!
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saddles??? those are creepy! I don't get it!
Before watching: I would figure anyone without the expertise to do a refine wouldn't have the expertise remove the finish underneath, so I'd be hopeful
Edit: Big big sad :c
Wut?
Are you going to spray it yourself.send it to a pro.it would be easy to screw up.put that on someone else and be patient we will wait.
Its already en route to my refin guy!
Roaches !! It looks like.
this doesn't look like an original 57.
I sold my 62 original strat for $17,000.00. I purchased the guitar used in 64 for $275. I attended the meeting with the appraiser that represented the purchaser to verify that it was original. He looked at the infield of the guitar under the pick guard and talked about the automotive paint that was used and the primer. He focused on the over-spray behind the nails that suspended the guitar for painting. this was considered one the main points that maid it authentic. Very hard to fake. Note, on your guitar these are covered by the red paint. another point is your guitar has very little fret wear. On my 62 the higher frets were worn the neck wood. Also why isn't your pick guard yellow like the pickups. Not normal. somebody made a mess of this old fender.
So. It is an original 57 strat. Many later 57 guitars, and common in 58, had yellowing of the covers and knobs. Its the materials used. I appreciate the story. Sounds really cool. As noted this guitar received a horrible refin but, retained its original parts through the years. Thank you for your assessment , but i am real confident in this guitar, its all i deal with. Thanks!
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Paint it olive drab green with black pick guard and black or cream knobs then sell/give it to me. Thanks. DM me for my address etc.
maybe with the virus you will get the project done much faster
Power Tools on a Guitar 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Sorry but, buyer beware on refinished vintage guitars. I want mine flat out Vintage. Fender made a mistake [no, not really] when they started their Vintage Relic department where they actually have jobs making guitars like the one you start with. Fix hardware as needed and leave the rest alone. Buy a new Fender if you want a perfect looking guitar.
Restoration project!
You are ruining the value..
What am i ruining?
The finish that was already removed?
The frets that were worn?
All of the parts are original and still functional
The value was thrown out the window when the entire guitar was covered in shellac after a horrible refinish. No breaks. No extra routes, i shouldnt restore that?
Im interested to know
The Riff w Nik Sevigny I didn’t realize it was already a refin.
You should treat that piece of history with some respect using a drill on a guitar is like killing a fly with a machine gun it dosent take long to use a screwdriver just like they did in 57
Haha. Ok. 1:41.
I would have been careful to keep those tuners in order of where they were removed from. But whatever, it's your guitar. I've actually already watched your next video of this series. The wear on the neck doesn't look natural. FYI, it looks like some of the over-zealous aging work via some of the Fender Custom Shop folks doing recreations. To be more specific, look at the fingerboard wear at the highest frets. Seriously, who ever wore the fretboard at the 21st fret at the bass strings? Nobody. While your guitar looks exceptional, I suspect it isn't an original 50's strat. Some of the wear doesn't jive. It's suspect to me. It looks like a very high quality fake made by someone who is very knowledgeable about how to make a very convincing fake. Either that, or it's a Fender Custom Shop guitar that someone is trying to pass as an original (after doing some addition aging effects). For your sake, I hope I'm wrong. But that is my assessment.
Regarding the tuners, besides the E and E tuners, they are all the same, size and function.
If you watched the video, you would see the neck blacklight out and the removal of old shellac.
The fingerboard wear on the last few frets is from the picking hand. Quite common on maple board guitars (keith, ronnie wood, ronnie earl, roy)
I appreciate your unsolicited assessment of the guitar. But, to your dismay, it is in fact a 1957 stratocaster. Its seen some playing, and will continue to see some playing!
@@theriffwniksevigny5473 I'm not dismayed at all. Congrats on scoring such a rare instrument. Mostly, I'm glad this instrument will actually be played. A guitar regulated to live its existence behind glass must be a very sad guitar. I'm glad you are going to play this one. Enjoy.
looks more like a 70s fake that got passed off as an original unless you have an actual history of the guitar
Hahaha. Yea. Well. The routes contours , shape and weight are much different on the 70’s. Plus the 3 bolt neck. On top of that, the pickups the pots. 1957 neck and Neck plate and tweed case all dated to 57 ! Good detective work tho!
@@theriffwniksevigny5473 no im not saying its a 70s style body. there were actual alot of 50s fakes made in the 70s that are thought to be real ones.
K K the guitar is 100% authentic.
awesome