4WD Snorkels and increasing engine airflow (your Q&A - contains nut) | Auto Expert John Cadogan
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- Опубликовано: 13 мар 2021
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“I was sitting around the campfire just next to Dingo Piss Creek talking to a guy about his LS powered GU Patrol. He explained that it was making around 200kw at the wheels on a dyno, but mentioned that he had to replace the regular 'Safari' style snorkel with a custom 4" stainless steel snorkel so that he could gain more air flow to make those numbers.
“How is that possible if snorkels don't increase air flow? PS my 4WD is fitted with a snorkel, and besides that fact that I've done Cape York, Arnhem Land and the Victorian High Country in it, it makes me feel really tough when I pull up to the Woolies carpark to pick up my supply of toilet paper, YEEEEESSSSSSS” - Sam
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I’ve noticed that every time you do the bogan voice, the sentence starts with “Mate...” and I enjoy that immensely.
Mate mate mate mate maaaaaattteee
John: Kind of hard to get around an air restrictor
Toyota Team Europe: Here, hold my warm fosters.....
100%
Yes, I was just shouting that at the screen!
DAMN!
You beat me to it! HA HA
3 wives, without changing in-laws. Hahaha. I almost spit my flat white across the table. Classic.
...at wife #3, I hope, or prospective wife #4.
He has mentioned this before when you marry the ugly sister.
It worse when your in-laws are also your parents, but that's life in LS GU ville.
It had never occurred to me that people talk of snorkel’s in terms of performance improvements. There is only one real reason to have a snorkel, as I found out a few years ago, perhaps late 70’s, maybe early 80’s. I was in my blue Land Cruiser (An FJ45 from 1973 which was full of safety features such as the driver sitting on top of the fuel tank to make sure it didn’t come loose in the rough stuff - yesssss.) I was following my mate at the back of his farm. He had a newer model, and it had a diesel and a snorkel. We got to a creek, he crossed easily with water up to the bonnet, and I stayed behind and wished I had one of those new fangled things. And when I got it, it would have a snorkel too. In my older age I now have the comfort of a Land Cruiser Sahara, but it definitely has a snorkel. I wouldn’t go through water up to the bonnet unless I had to - it is not good for a car, but I have been through water over the tyres and I was glad the snorkel was there. I had no idea I was also using it as a performance enhancement. I guess I don’t spend enough time talking to the guys down at Dingo P*ss Creek.
Ha, when I Google Dingo Piss Creek, Ha, it comes up with YOU. To funny
Sam was just inciting your response John. He succeeded.
Done a lot of outback driving, super dusty conditions, you can literally see the dust plumes. The dust is thicker down lower, no two ways about it. You can't see anything when travelling right behind a car, the further back away from the car you get, the better you can see because the dust falls back down to the ground. It clears from the top down, you can blab on all you like about it but gravity is real, and the air is clearer higher up away from the duster chirners....er, I mean wheels. And it's not the dust that my wheels are making that's the problem, it's the dust from either the car in front, or the road train that's coming in the other direction that gives you grief. If you go off the tar, then a snorkel is worthwhile, plus, a hell of a lot of trucks have one or two snorkels as standard equipment. It seems like every road train that does the outback dirt roads has twin snorkels standard.
@@davexb6595 a snorkel allows the option for a pre cleaner Donaldson have some good ones
@@davexb6595 Mate I didn't actually see a question in that sentence, but the normal state of affairs on outback dirt roads is if you're on your own, or in a group and you're the lead car, then dust isn't much of a problem. The further back in the convoy you are the more dust you're eating. I've had to drop back well over 1km behind the car in front on some roads on a still day so that I can see where I'm going. If a car and especially if a road train passes in the other direction then you have to pull over and stop because visibility can be zero. You can see the density of the dust as it settles and it clears from the top down. We put socks on the top of the snorkels in bad conditions. Somebody should do a scientific study on the density of dust particles relative to their height above the road to put this to bed. Meanwhile, my practical experience says use a snorkel, or "raised air intake" as Land Rover calls it, as far as I'm concerned.
Ye, I would like a firm answer to this. I lived in Nullunby and we put a snorkel in for creek crossings. Though noticed that when I blew my filter out. It’s was half as dusty. I regret not popping in a pre filter. Also, when on the black top we took a temp of the road at a foot up and it was 65deg, at snorkel heat it was under 50. Love to know from an engineers opinion. We asked about the prefilter and. Snorkel size would restrict airflow and they said the turbo would suck as much as it wanted so don’t upgrade. A lot of intercooler are moved forward away from the engine heat to the front to get the cooler air, though how does that work when u can cook a steak on the road in summer?
As I’m that road train driver… my air cleaners are at about 2 metres but still loads of dust
@@ceejfletcherI was going well with your figures until you mentioned cooking a steak on the road. You can't. I tried it. The best you can do is cook an egg, but you need a glass pan lid to put on top of it.
Always spot on technically and funny as hell. John Cadogan, keep it coming!
Don't Google DP Creek... 5 minutes later DP Creek is trending on Google 😂
One of your best masterpieces. Thanks Oh Great 1
Can wait to fit a snorkel
Truer words have never been uttered before on this subject!
The last time I clicked this fast on a John's video my internet history was full of Ming Molls!
I'm a big fan of your videos. 2 Hilux Utes used on a farm. One Hilux with a Snorkel & one without. Both Utes doing similar work. The Hilux without the Snorkel consistently had far more dust in the Aircleaner when serviced at regular intervals.
Did they both have bullbars?
My landcruiser is better with snorkel. Also put an old sock over it as a prefilter
I write this comment with trepidation for being pulled up for my spelling and my grammar much like my email communications with my ex wife who points them out to me with menace, why, because she's like that. However, I digress. Since finding your channel on here I am hooked, even as a UK individual with the usual faults, it is a truly additive viewing, just wish you'd post everyday. Thanks
Thanks mate, you've convinced me, I'm getting a snorkel for the Corolla , saving the planet and getting to Woolies all in one go....
I put one on the Kona Electric.
@@AutoExpertJC the important question is does it look mint? :D
@@AutoExpertJC Thatull keep them battreez kool john eh?
Your expose of Rod Walloper things is excellent and polite.
I've noticed an increase in the number of sparkling clean 4wds with snorkels in my local supermarket car park. I'm sure they need the extra imaginary airflow driving around looking for a big enough parking space.
Nothing cleaner than a blokes search history......yesssssss
Totally agreed. Squeaky.
"Dingo Piss Creek" has made it to general family parlance around here. Love it.
Another good video john, spot on.👍
Thanks 👍
Glad I watched this video. Just remembered I forgot to clean my air filter last time I did my oil change. That might explain my low mileage.
Thank you!
Knowing exactly what you meant . . . I immediately went and googled "DP Creek" . . . Nice! 🤣
Appreciate your post and backing explanations.
Thanks
Rik Mathias, Tampa FL USA
Very true Jonathan...
I fitted a safari snorkel to my 100series cruiser 1hdfte model.
YESSS the greatest diesel engine or one of, invented I think?.
Only because my lovely wife insisted on taking the quick way to town,which is about 2 minutes faster than the sealed road.
The inner guard inlet thingy was filling my airfilter within 2500ks.
Since the snorkel filters look great at 10000 ks but I chang
e them anyway.
But I did notice it down a tad on power after the install...
Banged a dominate kings dump pipe back 3inch system with the rear muphler delete and bang she really came to life.
Did gain a little fuel economy after all said and done(when I'm driving)
Happy wife Happy life so the say.
410000ks and still doesn't use a drop of oil.
Long winded I know but some manufacturers did a shit job to stop dust ingress and Toyota Is one of them.
Look at the 200series?.
No I don't do a great deal of swimming with my 4wd but the bulldust will kill any engine quickly if getting ingested through the so called clean air source wich in the 100 series is the inner guard.
I'm sure manufacturers are on to this now or not?
As long as the viechle is out of warranty or voids the warranty they could not give a shit.
Love the content electric jesus and his dominions must need a reply???
My V6 Tarago has a “snorkel”. It’s tucked under the bonnet where nobody can see it and was thoughtfully installed by Toyota in the factory. My experience so far after 8 years ownership is that it works perfectly well supplying the engine with air from “down there”. Goes without saying that my mighty Tarago will never be required to go wading across the terribly deep DP Creek so no external snorkel required; a fact that no doubt also applies to well over 90% of the vehicles with such an accessory fitted.
You should try DP with a Tarago. It’s better than you think.
You should replace it with a stainless steel snorkle for better air flow
Love ya work. Dude. JD
I remember American cars in the 1970's not having air intake housings; they did intake air from under the hood into a cylindrical air filter housing on top of the carb, complete with butterfly nut to hold the air cleaner lid on.
It's been some time since that was SOP...
@@AutoExpertJC Yes it was; completely and freely admitted, good Sir.
It was back when you could stand inside the engine bay and put your feet on the road.
@@AutoExpertJC Yes it was! :) And you didn't have all this newfangled anti-pollution equipment. Why, cars still had points and condensers!
@Alfred Wedmore You should see our CITY drivers now! But I'm not rural, and they were also called butterfly nuts in some areas.
It MUST be colder at the top of the snorkel. There's snow on mountain tops, so colder up there, and the top of the snorkel is closer to the top of the mountains than the standard air intake. There. Facts.
Thank you for listening, I have to see the nurse now.
its so easy to make the judgement on snorkels just reading websites and reviews. i agree their advantages do seem exaggerated but their primary purpose is still valuable as insurance if you make an error of judgement on the depth of water. its only going to be a 4-5 figure mistake so why wouldn't you for something so cheap, especially considering i haven't yet heard of any disadvantages of it which is often a side effect of 4x4 modifications. and although the snorkel itself doesn't include this, it can give you the option to fit a dust bowl pre-filter which DO work.
I had a snorkel on my old subi, made it sound amazing! And worked . With lockers, lift etc it was unstoppable. But it kept killing cv shafts..
Years ago my mechanic told me of a bloke who took of his air cleaner on his turboed car so it would go better. Unrestricted turbo and bore polishing , YEEEEEESSSSSSSS .
watched too many 'race car' videos would be my guess.
the kind where the car goes 400 odd meters a few times rully rully fast and then gets an engine rebuild.
Engine Singing: "I'm in pieces, bits and pieces!"
After all, some valuable content in this video as usual to take on board. Even with all the dramatic exclamations, hi's and lows, facial expressions, shrugs of the shoulder and tilts of the head. condescending mannerism. Still somewhat adds to the entertainment you provide. Keep up the good work.
I have a snorkel so I can hear the sweet sound of the turbro hoovering in all that air, and the compressor surge between gear changes.
I don’t give a toss about water crossings, anything over the tyre and I probably wouldn’t bother these days, it does however suck less dust into the intake when traversing the great big f all that this fine country has to offer.
Peace!
Spot on!
This video gave me an idea to extend my snorkel with some PVC pipe, the air has to get cleaner, higher at some point.
ah the memories you bring back john . 4w low range chained to a large tree burnouts, something one would try when they are young and stupid. i'm talking BB young ( before beer gut and beard ).
Prime Mincer comment John. A box of rocks would get my vote ahead of ScoMo because I would know exactly what to expect and never be disappointed.
I think I need to go and watch the first video
I think you do, too. Like, at least a million times.
Hahaha, that was a bit of a surprise John. Nobody has ever dedicated a RUclips video to me before, so thank you very much. My question was a genuine one about about increased or decreased airflow and in particular, relating to those vehicles that have been fitted with a larger engines from a different manufacturers, eg LS powered GU. Your previous Snorkel video reminded me about the time I heard others talking about this LS powered GU and mentioned that they had to change the snorkel to get those numbers on the dyno so I thought I'd ask the most knowledgeable person possible.
Also, I just wanted to clear a few things up- I do not own an LS powered GU Patrol, and if I had around $9000 to spend on my 4WD, an LS (or any engine conversion) would be the absolute last thing on my list...
The stock iron man snorkel on your mates car before the v8 was probably a restriction so he got a bigger diameter pipe to make that power. He could have made even more power if he didn't hook up the LS to the snorkel in the first place and just left it on for decoration. But I imagine if he's using the 4wd for actual 4wd purposes, he just said bugger it and upgraded the snorkel size to suit a bigger NA motor.
I’m guessing it’s probably cheaper for old mate to fit the stainless snorkel than fix the huge hole in his front guard.
What's really often ignored is a lot of standard air intakes in many vehicles both car and 4wd are based on a venturi tube. I think the belief is that if you remove the 'restriction' of the smallest-ID section of the venturi tube you improve 'airflow' and can measuribly increase the 'intake air pressure' that makes flow through the filter box more 'efficient'.
In line with its national policy of restricting all Australians from having fun, National Parks Service has just closed the Dingo Piss camping reserve and 4WD trails. Gates and Bollards have been installed to prevent unenforceable fun from occurring.
It s becoming the Australian way.limited in every way you turn.Over regulated and over priced in my book.bring back the days of just going off road and camping freely and enjoying nature as your meant to.now you rock up,have to pay for parking,look at the site ,pay some knob head at toll gate,park fee,then head back to the park your paying ig $$$ to camp in a caravan.More governance always equals less freedoms.
I love my blue bonds singlet
I'm in tears of laughter. Brilliant!!!
Land Rover Defender has now launched its “hardtop” range of rugged old- style Defenders. You can purchase a snorkel from Land Rover. Land Rover, like Toyota, sell their snorkels for dust prevention. They are Engineers, like yourself John, and I believe them. My mate is a vehicle technician and he believes that snorkels are effective due to actual cleaning out of the snorkel filter box on many Toyotas.
Thank you for the most informative content available.
Engineers designed all the other snorkels too, dude.
@@AutoExpertJC if snorkels. Are not effective, how come the vehicles that drive through flooded roads here during flash floods that DONT have a snorkel hydrolock and. Stall but the very few here ( usa) that do have a snorkel make across. Flooded roads.
You know to be fair I have had a snorkel a long time and used it (as in properly) once I think. Thanks for the laugh. Another great video. Btw what do you think of Frontrunner as a roof rack option? Ronny Dahl and Tyler Tompson have both gone this direction. On that note, I am posting my vlog on the Pioneer rack issues today. It briefly discusses Tyler Tompsons and Ronny Dahls and your experiences with that product, the issue itself and different mounting techniques as seen on GU Y61 and Y62 Patrol (It is really for my 4x4 club as we mostly have Patrols). Thank you for helping to bring that and so many other consumer issues to the publics attention. Keep fighting the good fight!
Only advantage I found with a snorkel (apart from deep water about once a decade...) was way less sand getting caked onto the Finer Filter sock...
I got a snorkel for my Prado 120. Planned to do a trip north to the cape. Of course, life happened and the trip was cancelled... Now all its good for is winding the window down and listening to the turbo wind up. O well.
I’m seeing V8 Supercars fitted with snorkels, all lined up on the start line at the next Bathurst. Silver Bearded Drivers. New sponsor - the Safari Bathurst 1000 - detouring to DP Creek of course.
I with you John on the subject of under the bonnet air intakes, i see a few cars in for repair with so called "cold air intake" kits on them. A cone filter stuck on the end of the air feed pipe and the original air box ripped out, in one case like this the owner had used cable-ties to fix the air temp sensor to the air-con pipes . I saw it and was thinking no wonder the damn thing is not running right, i told the owner he was losing power with this setup and factory was better. I was told i was talking BS and it works because he can feel the difference.
😂 not just an 4×4 channel but a good word of advice channel! 🍻
"Saying it like it is!"
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
This guys will buy anything.
My D3 has a snorkel and it makes the best intake noise. Love it.
Plus: our telehandler and tractor need regular air filter changes. My D3 with the snorkel (and cyclon fitting) does not.
Works for me.
Run for office.
Yes the noise some of those make us cool, but where I live they can be a cop magnet if it's too noisy ( usa) . Change the stock airbox here and you get a huge fine. It's happened several times to a freind of mine who is a hardcore off roader..
Don't care what you say John
My snorkel saved my wagon's engine when we had a flash downpour in WA's north-West
We had to exceed my cars maximum wading depth several times
We had water coming over the bonnet without the snorkel I can guarantee I would have a hydrolocked engine
In short:
Small snorkel = very bad bottleneck
Large snorkel = bad bottleneck
No snorkel = no bottleneck
Good morning from Canukistan. Really enjoy all of your videos, but would like to make a smaĺl correction. I believe in commonwealth countries the correct pronounciation of the Texas band you refered to is "Zed - Zed Top" 😁 Keep up the great work!
Two bearded dudes relaxing after a day of rolling coal at Dingo Piss Creek Off Road Recreational Park, braiding their beards in front of the fire, watching the sunset and anticipating the usual cross-wankage to finish off the evening. Yesssssssssssssss!
I agree with most of what you say cobber and I hate following the blind Jones's, but, my daughter and I have the same cars, RC Colorados, except mine has a snorkel since I bought the car with it installed. I service both cars and her air filter box is always dirtier than on my car. Thank you for your videos
I googled DP creek, it's definitely flowing.
John, I did just search DP creek, luckily I have safe search on.
Thank Allah.
John, I always follow your videos with interest, particularly the engineering aspect. No doubt you have seen Ronny Dahl's videos on the strength and mounting problems of a certain aftermarket roof rack. How about a video comparing the merits or otherwise of fitting a roof rack to a 4x4 ?
He has a video on this!
Speaking of Dingo piss, do they not sell Castlemaine XXXX anymore? 🤔 I haven't seen it in ages..
BRILLIANT !!!! "...to a far more Ron Jeremy spec"...I wonder how many people actually got that reference?.....hahaha!!
While driving my Mazda 3 in "city traffic" I require a snorkel with a camera so I can see over all the 4x4 vehicles, particularly utes.
Or you could just drop back a bit...
@@AutoExpertJC If he does then another ute will fill the gap.
If the stainless steel snorkel does not work, just disconnect the air condition vent from inside the vehicle and strap it into the air inlet. Cold air that is dry. LOL
Pre internet - I called directory assistance and asked the lady ‘could I have the number for big balls offroad please’ , very professionally she replies ‘ok one moment please sir, biiiiiiig baaaallllls offff road’ she says whilst typing. ‘Sorry sir nothing is coming up for big balls offroad, let my try a listing for big balls’ ......that’s where her professionalism ended - she completely lost it and couldn’t stop laughing🤣🤣
Ah back in the good ole days
When sitting around the campfire just next to DP Creek, snorkel size does matter. 😆😋
are there any empirical studies on snorkel vs no snorkel in regards to reducing dust or decreasing air intake temperature?
So you have any videos were you are repairing something? - subscribed
My question is unrelated to the topic discussed today. I purchased a little 2006 turbo diesel vehicle that has done only 80,085 klms since new. It has not been driven in 14 months. Should I change the oil, etc, before it is driven again? If so, what should I check before it hits the road again? I don't want to do it any damage, as it is a great little vehicle for me. Thank you for a great channel.
Well I guess that answers my question of ram head vs wedge head snorkel, leave well enough alone on the 4runner.
AS long the segment contains a healthy portion of NUTS I love it.😊👍
No shortage in that one...
@@AutoExpertJC BLESSED ARE THE NUT PROVIDERS.😂😂😊👍
As per your last comment would you say all of Toyota's engineers are wankers and unintelligent due to the 79 series landcruiser coming from the factory with a raised air intake and pre-cleaner?
JC just a quick1 incase someone else mentions (which has not been publicised even to Nissan)...Harrop did a test of airflow temps for the new Y62 patrol when collecting data for their latest Supercharger, pre and post snorkle at 60kph was a difference of 8.1 deg Ç with snorkle fitted...(this at the ambient temp of 33c...with 80% humidity, but is cooler in hot temps where the intake of air is near front wheelwell)...
The snorkle alone with no remap and the 8.1c cooler air increased the stock engine power by 4.9hp...an un noticeable increase in power with V8, it didn't reduce engine coolant temp, but MAY lower EGTs (by 40-55 deg ç..which isn't really much beneficial effect when egts get up to 650 deg ç) ... also fitting wasnt worth the outlay/install cost IF the 4wd does not go offroad...
They worked out without a remap being done, if you wanted extra power you'd gain more hp with just a change of fuel from 92 to 98prem. (Y62 V8 5.6 Patrol) or the fitment of an aftermarket exhaust.
The only way such a minimal decrease in air temp would be of any gain or worth the effort fitting, would be after a remap was done.
Also as you stated, "there was not any increase in actual induction airflow with the addition of an aftermarket snorkle".. is true, BUT in areas of heavy dust (Aussie snow) and 'bulldust', the snorkle does make a substantial difference in deliveration of cleaner air into the airbox.
Keep up great work JC 👍👍👍
Google search terms for DP Creek just went through the roof.....
Trending now...
@@AutoExpertJC Comes up with DP Creek investments... are you a shareholder?
In regards to air being lest dusty up there, I think you have failed to notice that a lot of utes have their intake in the wheel arch. Or to be more precise in the fender void
"Air intakes aren't under the bonnet"
Mitsubishi Triton 4WD 1994 - 1998 turbo and non-turbo diesels 2.5L says; I do! It's on my drives side, under my bonnet, right next to the exhaust and intake manifolds. It's no problem though since I never got an inter-cooler when the folks made me all those years ago.
Would a black snorkel heat up the air going through it given that its closer to the sun "up there"
John, would not just replacing the wing mirror housings with domestic 24" fans, (in reverse) be a more "greenish" mod? One could feel like Kingsford Smith while achieving at least 0.1 kph speed increase...down there!
I agree snorkels are not needed unless there is a high (pun intended) chance one will be facing a water crossing. I would however argue that the depth is not super relevant. If there is an unexpected dip, even for a second, bye bye engine. So basically, If you actually go off-roading, then for $400 or so (self fitted) it's a very good idea as it doesn't take much for a deep puddle to form, or a river to rise on your return, etc.
John where I live you need more than the 4x4 company's can provide when in winter you can get bogger in our own track to the farm and nothing to hock a winch too and have to walk back to get the tractor and it gets bogged and then the K9 you can see where this is going, that's the Hay plains in winter and when it really rains you don't need a snorkel you need a boat, cheers.
Delete the browsing history?... Long live incognito mode 👍👍 yeeeeessss
Pro tip...
Aren't snorkels just a fashion accessory like a spoiler/rear wing on a car?
"...and now they vote!". Fantastic. You just forgot to mention how they are related to "Jethro".
Dingo Piss Creek is added to GPS maps now so we are to proceed safely to our destination!
Dingo Piss Creek is like Mecca, only for bogans.
@@AutoExpertJC There is so many of them!
Will an aftermarket air intake improve airflow? Well is it a restriction in the first place? If no, then save your money. The only way to know that for sure is to place air pressure sensors before and after and see if there is a delta.
Usually the only thing fitting an aftermarket intake will do is mess up your MAF sensor calibration or cause turbulence over the sensor.
Talk about a topic that I believe is probably the only one with it's own weather system.
Telling a snorkel owner that the hardware addition to the vehicle is an impediment, is a great way to get into a fistfight.
Which will leave you needing some of those moist heating pads from Battle Creek to treat the injuries.
I've often wondered about the snorkel. Looking at my 21 Everest ARB recommend fitting an ARMAXX snorkel with a tune. When I asked the question "What about the hose that goes to the turbo? It goes from 76mm to 51mm and then to 48mm all ID going into the intercooler. Wouldn't that restrict airflow?" "No" he says "Because the large volume of air ready to be sucked into the turbo will more easily be compressed allowing your bigger than stock intercooler to compress more oxygen". "Your engine is slightly over-fueled from the factory so the extra oxygen will provide more power without much of a tune." A google search provides a LOT of information pointing to the EVIDENCE for more power and better fuel economy with little to no evidence to the contrary. Who to believe????
I’ll keep the snorkel thankz
Lobby for DP Creek to get world heritage listing based on the number of beard strokers who claim their going there now. Love it, 😄
My one regret when visiting your fine country was I never googled the whereabouts of Poontang Island.
Just to be fair, not all snorkels are equal. As a professional gardener I can attest to the effectiveness of a snorkel on a push mower. This largely eliminates any buildup of bulldust in the air filter, especially during a dry summer. Chugging along at 4.3 kmh does not put the front of the mower ahead of the ensuing fan driven dust storm a la 4WD on the Birdsville track. Even with the snorkel I recommend a maximum fording depth of 3cm.
Fitted a snorkel and a set of stubby extractors to my GR120 Prado and dropped 1.5 - 2.0 litres per 100km at least. May have been mostly exhaust but snorkel is staying. Also 120 Prados had a habit of the right front wheel directing water into the wheel well air inlet and damaging motors. Only at certain water depths with the right speed. Cheap insurance if you ask me. Obviously John would know this🤔
Woo!
Yessssssss! Samboooooooooo!
Right next door to DVDA BBC CREEK.. yyeessss
Been there too...
Managed 3 wives without changing in laws once... Psml gold
DP Creek results from Google are completely clean as far as I see. Chalk one up for Google AI.
Not for long. I’ll put the Ming mols on ASAP.
All I got was photos of rural property - I feel cheated.
No one swaps the 4.8 for an LS, usually an overheated TD42 or blown up 3 or 2.8L diesel.
What they didn't say was how big the long range tank is to get the ls1 out to DP creek.😆
Hey champ i live in Cairns and have done heaps of 4x4 fishing trips all over the north end and have never had a snorkel in 30 years I’ve been that deep in water that I’ve flooded the boat off the trailer we’ve always worried about the diffs and gearbox inlets more