The Spirit in the Trinity: Mystical Theology - Sarah Coakley (audio)

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  • Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
  • The project of this lecture is a bold one: it argues that the divisive problems over the filioque might never have arisen if the Holy Spirit’s radical equality with the Father and Son had not been already implicitly undermined by the historic, conciliar treatment of the Holy Spirit as ‘third’. But another approach had always stood over against this, one in which a priority given to the Spirit in ecstatic, charismatic or contemplative prayer resisted such subordination of the Spirit, and so cut behind and beyond what would later become an entrenched division between ‘East’ and ‘West’. Extending and enriching her earlier work on this theme in *God, Sexuality and the Self*, Sarah Coakley presses key questions about a distinctive ‘participative’ trinitarianism in the monastic and ascetic traditions of the medieval and early modern periods (both ‘East’ and ‘West’), and about its contemporary ecclesiological and personal significance.
    Recorded live Oct 5th, 2018

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  • @claudiozanella256
    @claudiozanella256 3 года назад

    No Trinity exists because no "third divine Person" exists. In the Trinity doctrine in order to put a face to the Holy Spirit, even an omnipotent GOD has been INVENTED: the LORD WHO GIVES LIFE !
    The alleged "Lord":
    1. doesn't talk to the Father in the gospels,
    2. doesn't talk the Son in the gospels,
    3 He doesn't speak at all: no one ever heard ONE SINGLE WORD from him.
    4 is ignored by the Bible (no "Lord who gives life" can be found)
    5. is forgotten by Jesus: " My Father works now, so I work."
    6. is again forgotten by Jesus : "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?"
    7. is again forgotten by Jesus : "...I am going to my Father who is greater than I am."
    8. is again forgotten by Jesus: " You neither know me nor my Father."
    9. is again forgotten by Jesus. " I and my Father are one."
    10. is again forgotten by Jesus: " On that day you will know that I am in my Father, you are in me, and I am in you."
    11. Jesus crystal clearly states that God is NOT THREE BUT TWO PERSONS: "I am not ALONE because the Father is with me"
    12. is again forgotten by Jesus: "...I have not yet ascended to my Father."
    13. is again forgotten by Jesus: "I am not ALONE, but I and the Father who sent me are one."
    14. is again forgotten by Jesus: "The Father has not left me ALONE because I always do what pleases Him."
    15. You cannot pray to Him, just to the Father and to the Son: "Whatever you ask the Father in my name, he will give you.".
    16. is again forgotten by Jesus, when He states that ONLY THE FATHER knows the future: "...only the Father knows"
    17. is again forgotten by Jesus when He states that "God is a spirit", Jesus should say "God and the Holy Spirit are TWO Spirits".
    18. is again forgotten by Jesus when He states that "no one ever saw God", what happens with the "Lord", can He be seen ?
    19. the Lord is brutally ignored in the sharing of the property : "the Father had given all things into His hands "
    20. allegebly the Lord cannot give you ANYTHING: "whatever you ask of the Father in my name, He will give it to you."
    21. the " phantom Lord" also DOES NOT JUDGE: "The Father judges no man, but has turned over all judgment to the Son."
    22 the "phantom Lord" does NOT SIT in heaven: " ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power... "
    23 the "Holy angels" will be with Jesus, but not the "phantom Lord" "When the Son of man comes WITH HIS HOLY ANGELS, He shall sit upon the throne of His glory."
    The "Lord" is thus only AN INVENTION! Indeed many christians still believe that the Holy Spirit is a kind of "MAGICAL DUST" falling down the sky, which gives them awesome abilities!
    Well, the HOLY SPIRIT is neither a magical fluid, nor the invented "Lord": He is the FATHER WHO IS IN THE FORM OF A SPIRIT, because "God is a spirit" means "the Father is a spirit" and is called "the Holy Spirit".
    In other words, Jesus has the Father who is a spirit and calls Him sometimes "Father", sometimes "Spirit"(Holy), according to circumstances, and this leads to confusion. Thus, blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is SYNONYM of blasphemy against the Father ("...but blasphemy against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven."). No one has been forgotten there: just TWO blasphemies are possible!
    Jesus also directly confirms that the HOLY SPIRIT inside Him IS THE FATHER: “The words I say to you, I say not on my own but from the FATHER who DWELLS IN ME.”
    In a smart way you can skip the whole difficult "Comforter paragraph" to directly see who is inside the apostles: the "Spirit of your Father", i.e. once again the Father who is a spirit: no "third God" exists.
    Here ruclips.net/video/fHw7e4Xhp4w/видео.html you can find 20 verses of the gospels that don't make any sense when interpreted according to the Trinity theory and that make perfectly sense instead with a "DUALITARIAN" interpretation.