Pros: Greater variety. Cons: fighting off 20 years of muscle memory! Great video. I'm sticking to basic shooting + manual shots when needed, but I'd definitely recommend advanced shooting to new players.
It took a while for me to get used to it, but once you do it's quite rewarding. Top tip for tapping in drilled ground crosses is not to try and aim, just shoot neutral with analogue released and the player will guide the ball on its own momentum to the best place in the goal. Works 90% of the time.
I love advanced shooting but my only problem with it is it makes low finesse shots obsolete and at a certain point you realize it's much easier to just spam max power low shots into the bottom corner every time
I think you have a good point in these advanced skills - it's a steep learning curve but once you've mastered them you have an amazing toolbox to choose from.
Personally I find the shooting (advanced) on the PC to be extremely random which I kinda like tbh because it keeps you guessing. Compared to PES 19 where I could put the ball on a penny pretty much 99% of the time although you have greater control it becomes a little predictable because I know what's going to happen before it happens and as a result gets a little dull over time. However, my leniency regarding the randomness of PES 21 could be to do with my old age because if I had experienced this randomness when I was 10-15 years younger I probably would have stopped playing and attributing that to the shooting being 'broken'. I think I'm a lot more forgiving in my business years. But I can't help but love the context of 21 in other words; the play, the build up, the 'feel' - the jostling aspect and close contact/positioning is so immersive so much so that the inconsistencies with shooting seem somewhat irrelevant or if anything actually complement what's happening to the point where I'm left muttering to myself after I blaze a lightly tapped shot over the bar off the back of a mazing run into the box "...that's football" and to point, it is. You see 15-20 years ago when I would play friends and 'scripting madness' would happen and my controls were hijacked by the computer to aid the other player and as a result my players would do silly shit or the controls and play outcomes where just generally poor or inconsistent my friends would always smugly answer "well that's football." and I would quietly fume to myself 'no it's not it's a game and because it's a game I should have 100% control all the time!' but now I've come full circle but only because of Konami's ability to subtly weave these bits n bobs into the game now more discretely and realistically to a point where I am happy to accept what I would have called 'deliberate' outcomes. So a big credit to Konami for that. So even if the shooting is somewhat wayward it all somehow works within the context of everything else (This of course is all based on offline single player) I don't think there is any need to discuss the dark side to this game here. Anyways, overall the shooting is a bit of a miss-fest and knuckles are so random it's not even funny. In fact I have a modified team and 8 of my players have the knuckle card and I could do a 1000 different types of shot over the course of the match and still not get one knuckle. I know it's no longer double tap but I have tried to refine it down to no luck. I do the double knock on ...doesnt change anything, I have ran straight .. nope, coming from angles ... no change... big double touch ... no consistency .. in fact the only consistency is balloon over the bar. If someone knows how to knuckle at a very high consistency (as in at will) then I would happily pay you for that knowledge!
I just a month ago started with PES 21 and I have been FIFA player since 2005. I will have to say that PES 21 is the one that made me feel like I am playing real football. You need skills to achieve anything here. It’s not like sticky ball on your feet and you run and shoot. PES is seriously more advanced and it also feels super satisfying when I score a goal because it makes me think I have put some hard work to achieve that. Ball physics is also far superior and it feels like a separate thing unlike FIFA where it just goes with you wherever you go. PES 21 is indeed superior. Thank you for this tutorial. It really helps :) Bw efootball (PES 2022) is not looking that good. Hopefully it’s not what we all think it’s.
Thanks dude, I agree with everything you said! Ball physics, the difficulty of scoring a goal. When you're one on one with the goalie in FIFA it's always a goal
@@SpoonyPizzas Bw please please share a video on maintaining players stamina if you had uploaded on it. I was unable find your video on it. In master league (I didn’t observe this in other modes), I am struggling to maintain players stamina. It’s coming down so quickly after just 25 minutes of the game. I thought I am doing something wrong like overusing standing tackle tackle where you press and hold X. Maybe that’s what is making it come down so quickly. So if there’s any video please share it.
It takes a while to get your bearings but it's worth it once you have it down. Because now, you have to figure out the direction of your shot with respect to the goal you're attacking. Like left is not backwards but simply lower and down is right. I still mess up once in a while during corners when the screen rotates to the kicker.
I've been using this mode since you dropped this video. Im enjoying it a lot. But a lot of frustration early on lol I mean a lot! Ended up blowing the title away I was playing in masterleague when I changed to advanced shooting lol After 3 hours of struggling I went and practiced it in training and got way better doing that. I recommend training, I'm now scoring the best goals I've ever scored in this game. They look beautiful
@@SpoonyPizzas I only moved over to pes in 19 properly. And since 20 I've been playing FUMA. But this is just way better then manual shooting. I still use manaul shooting in game holding left trigger to initiate it, I find it useful at times and especially for headers, I score a lot of headers with left trigger manual. I believe the players reaction is better.
Hey spoony been a ur supporter since day one i can't thank u enough for ur content I try to make up by liking every video u post and sharing to some of my pes friends u the reason my love for pes is growing day by day after watching ur content I get so excited to go home and try the new tricks and skills I learn fro. Ur videos pes gameplay is so deep amd u helping see everything the game can offer and I deeply thank u for ur hrs of testing and editing to get the content out there u truly a special pes RUclipsr.
Pes 20 was my first time ever playing a football game . before this , I used to play DLS on my phone which is manual. But after playing on Xbox for an year , I am unable to shift to manual. The problem Is that you have to hold LT to make manual passes which I find really difficult😭. Any tips/suggestions?
Also one of the main reasons I switch to advanced was to pull off some low power dipping shots with high aiming that can loop over the goalie. Gonna submit some of those goals to goal of the month
Just getting to grips with advanced as manual albeit rewarding when you do score was hard. My problem is though as I’m moving my player with the left analog is actually getting shots on target!
Hey Spoony..I play on advanced shooting and understand the concept of pulling back on stick for low shots and vice versa. What I struggle is wanting to aim high..my shots always go over no matter if shoot with as little power as I can. Does the amount of tilt on Left stick have any say on the elevation? Also, how would you aim if you wanted a high shot in the MIDDLE of the goal? It's hard to wrap my head around holding Left stick UP or DOWN -- Like does that effect Elevation or Direction? Thanks Spoony.
So dynamic cam, if you push directly up you'll be aiming to the top left corner. Directly down and you'll be aiming at top right corner. Then power will decide how high it'll go depending on distance.
@@SpoonyPizzas thanks for the quick reply..will hit the training ground today to practice more. While I have your attention :) What would you say is the best MOD for PES 2021 on PC. I hear virtua red is pretty good.
Is there a video of you which combines all the important practical/basic tips for PES 2021? I need the lean meat without fat or fancy dribbling? Thanks a lot for all the tutorials
I have a lot. So it really depends. There's ultimate/complete defending tutorials. Cover the basics and advanced bits....or chance creation tutorial. There's passing tutorial. Just avoid top 3 skills/dribbling tutorials. Once you mastered the basics, super cancel is life changing. Gives you full control
I always preferred the basic shot option, as I had more control of my shots. I once tried to use the advanced shot and I messed things up. But surelyyou have more options with the advanced shot. If I had the opportunity, I would play some games with that type- of course in low difficulty, as I always to when I want to try something. Pity I don't have the PES 2021... Anyway, Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to everyone, keep your families safe and have a nice time.
@@TheShreem , I will ask Spoony in Discord to make such a tutorial. What I can tell you now is that you first need to check if your players have this special trait in their stats card (if they don't, they are not able to perform it) and I propose you to watch the relevant PES 2020 tutorial in Spoony's channel for dipping/ rising shots, as they are performed in a similar way. I hope that I cover you properly.
@@TheShreem sometimes I have difficulty too. I placed a request in Discord (where I think you just entered, if you did, welcome), so Spoony will answer in his way. So, for the time being, I recommend you to watch the relevant PES 2020 video, as I believe that there are not many differencies in the two versions.
Was trying manual shooting for a while but it seems to actually take away from the shot types you can pull off and see... advanced seems to give you more variety? And it saves you hitting the corner flag too 🙄
Maybe it’s me but the shots feel very delayed and when I cross it in whether in air I’m literally tapping and tapping the shot button to head it and the player just isn’t jumping or jumps so late. And on ground crossed I aim and hit the shoot button and the ball just hangs out at the players feet then he decides to flail at it and miss it. EVERYTIME. I do the same thing every shot as the cross is making its way to the player on the ground I aim and hit the shot button to hit it first time and what happens every time? He juggles it around his feet and misses the kick. Like I am hitting the shot button once when it’s on its way and another time when it gets there and 5 million more times and he’s not shooting till he finally does and misses it. And headers they never hear the ball. And when I try to shoot when I’m being closed down they take so long to shoot. Their foot goes back well after I hit the button and it goes back so slow that I can only shoot in tons of space. My experience with it has been very negative and unnatural. Maybe I’ll go back to manual or just practice more. I don’t know.
I've use advanced shooting on both 2020 and 2021 and just switched back to basic. On advanced shooting the player takes too long to shoot and i think it goes wide more frequently than basic.
In your example you said don’t push the ls stick directly to goal but you can push it up, when you push it up aren’t you pushing it directly to goal anyway, what’s the difference
Great videos, thanks. I am new to PES and your videos have been helping. Is advanced shooting something I need to enabled or is it really just pushing L back when shooting? I tried a little in training mode but not much success. Need to practice more I guess. The "circle" to kind of aim also doesn't show up for me. Perhaps because it is not enabled or because I am using the "alternate" controls mode? I get so frustrated when I miss easy goals...like just me and the keeper 😄
Great video! Does it make a difference if i push the analog stick up or down to choose the corner while pressing shooting or if i press shooting first and then choose the direction with the analog stick?
ruclips.net/video/VtISckh4r_Y/видео.html rising shot :) there's a dipping shot tutorial for PES 2020 too. Check those out mate. Same method applies to advanced
Thanks. previously watched your dipping tutorial but missed the rising. Maybe now I can pull off some rising shots with adv shooting. cause before they would just go over the bar with mid height aiming when they showed up sporadically
The ability to do low driven shots is the only reason I'm tempted by advanced. I read somewhere that if you press the through ball button just after the shoot button on basic shooting that you can do a low driven shot. Don't know if that's correct as I haven't had chance to play for quite a while to give it a go. Anyone know if it works?
Hitting the through ball button after shooting is how you do the move they brought in for '19, the "fly pass" or "fake pass", can't remember exactly what they call it. But anyway, you can power up a pass, cross or shot then hit through ball and instead of cancelling it switches to a through ball. I used it quite often when they first brought this in, but I can't say it makes any real difference and never really gazumps a defender whether they're an AI or human controlled one. If you are powering up a high powered shot you can switch it to the through ball at the last minute so they look like they are going to thump it, then just dink a through ball instead but thanks to poor response times due to the typically terrible servers, that's damn near impossible to time right in online matches.
Hey Spoony great video. One thing for me though is I use the D Pad instead of left analogue stick to control my players. What tips could you give me??? Thanks all the best.
ADVANCED SHOOTING!!! Shoot+direction before player kicks the ball.. Press shot +left or right then press down key/key facing directly towards your own goal for low shots. Shot +left or right full power for top corners. Shot +left or right+R2 =Rocket shots "full power" Finesse shots inside the box!!! Move diagonally towards keeper press R2+shot +down key (key on d-pad pointing directly towards your own goal.)for low finesse shot. If u r parallel with goal press R2+shot+down at the same time then and either left or right. Or R1+R2+shot +left or right. Chip shots L1+shot+left then press right L1+shot +right then press left Or L1+ shot only with directions L1+R2+shot only .(u may add down key) Empty goal Shot only (with no direction) Headers (shot with no direction)or aim ur header diagonally down back across the keeper towards where the cross is coming from.
Stellar stuff as always Spoons. You always find a way to make content on something we always wanted to know at the back of our minds, but probably never bothered to look for/ask (if that makes any sense) 😂. I tried advanced shooting in pes 2018 with moderate success and didn't know what I was doing wrong until I saw this video. I had one question. Chips from distance has always seemed rigged both in fifa and pes, I've tried it for years to score from 30-40 yards or beyond. But trying to lob one over the keeper rather than using the finesse shot or creating situations where the ball would go over the keeper if he's off his line. But it looks like it's achievable with advanced shooting. Can you try a few? Won't mind a video, even if very few actually went in. Looking for a goal like the one Totti scored against Inter at the San Siro (2005 or 06) in a 3-2 away win. I'm pretty sure you know which one I'm talking about. Good luck mate!
30-40 yards? No chance, not on Superstar or Legend. Maybe against Neurer cuz his player ID sucks and takes him out of goal lol. Would advise using finesse shot over lob from that distance
My only problem with advanced shooting is the finesse shot, it only works inside 6 yard box but outside 18 yard/ at edge of the box you won't score a single goal out of ten attempts. Even if you edit a player with long range drive ,midrange culer,99 finishing ,place kicking & 99 shot power +precision or you can't score a single finesse shot outside the box on advanced shooting even with a 99+ rated player. Try ur luck in training mode and see how many u can score out of ten attempts.
I mean scoring finesse/controlled or curved shots outside the box on advanced shooting like it's easily done on basic with R2+shot Not power shots coz I use ad shooting since pes 18 and I score powerful shots from weird angles but can't score a finesse shot outside the 18 yard box!!!!
Spoony bro most of the Bundesliga star players like Reus, hummels, halstenberg etc are not present in PES 21. But they were present in PES 20 as free agents at least. What can we do to get the official Reus, hummels etc? I installed PESunites option file and got all the teams kits players etc but the faces of most of the Bundesliga players ( Reus, Hummels etc) are fake. What to do?
@@SpoonyPizzas I've played pes for a long time and i feel basic is the best for me...advanced makes me miss too many sitters and I'm not so clinical anyway😂😂...thanks though...i love your videos💪
jesus christ... so i need to pull the stick away from goal for low shots?!... i've been doing the opposite for 17 years, its like asking to use brake pedal as gas and vice versa, never gonna happen.
@@SpoonyPizzas I mean when I was using super cancel with basic shooting, the AI would slide and try to block the shot, but when I switched to advanced, they no longer did that.
I used manual shooting in 2016 & 2017 - FUMA is incredible for 9 - 12 months but after a while it gets a bit boring, especially the shooting - just blasting shots in because why use finesse? Also, dislike the fact that it ignores stats - so why sign players with high passing/finishing stats. Advanced is probably my favourite now.... but it is a bit easier to hit the target and scoring feels easier once mastered.
Thanks I will try it asap! :) I remember in an older video you did not recommend it because "it was too easy" - and I did not even try it because I am fine with basic shooting. However watching this video and seeing that you can see the target it makes more sense to use it as it is "not just a feeling" of the controller anymore. Like in case of manual indicator. I give it a try but yes the "only" thing to get familiar to it as with basic shooting you likely aim toward the goal and not only left-right because it would be "too much". I play BAL and my finishing is just 73 right now and scoring many goals with basic shooting on Superstar. I will check if it works fine with "bad" finishing stat too and not worse. With low finishing shot I do not aim too wide on basic because I know I would miss it (so around diagonal). With advance it does not work anymore unless going for low shot. Let's see. :) I hope it will be more fun and not just "exploiting a tool". Scoring was fine on basic too. :) EDIT: I tried it in game and practice. Yes for my safe not that precise shot I have to shoot always low shot unless I hold the little bit "left/right" aim with my finger steadily during the shot which is difficult. For that purpose I prefer basic shooting because I can just hold forward until the "wall" and fine tunning the amount of left/right easier - I rarely use full left/right aim especially with my 70-73 finishing player. Well I am okay with the low shot anyway as I almost always shoot in that range with basic - sometimes I dare to rise it. :) I may give it a try though why not. EDIT2: I could score with finesse shot in the top corner from close range with the same power I did with basic shot but with basic it would have gone low but same goal. At least I can see not only low shot. Unless I do not do rather higher power low shots as recommended too. Hard to say which is better for low finishing stat player yet. I need to avoid max left/right aiming unless it is not close range and finesse shot. It was much easier with basic yet as I could release a shot from 17-18 meters and hit the target even if it was saved but with advanced it is more difficult to not aim too wide (unless it is a low shot). Different perspective as with basic shot the power bar is not "power" while in advance it is. Overall more freedom with advanced for sure. Basic shot is more simple only need to aim and elevation but no power - sometimes AI can frustrate with the adjusted bad power but I know it wants the best for me to hit the target haha. :) I do not really want easier goals either. I already scored a goal with a curved finesse shot into the top corner which would have not been a goal on basic (as on basic I would have not pressed the power bar that high). It looks like easier to hit even the top corner with less power than with basic. Need more experience and find out which is more fun to me. I like the fact that power bar is truly a power bar so if I want to hit it harder it is just up to me. :D Aiming the heading feels more fair too even if it does not hit the target. With basic it is up to the AI if it is go down or not (I developed Heading skill card to get it better). I have not scored an angled shot yet when I pass the keeper the aiming will be probably weird. With basic I simply aim toward the goal but with advanced it will be different.
Going to copy and paste a reply :) - I used manual shooting in 2016 & 2017 - FUMA is incredible for 9 - 12 months but after a while it gets a bit boring, especially the shooting - just blasting shots in because why use finesse? Also, dislike the fact that it ignores stats - so why sign players with high passing/finishing stats. Advanced is probably my favourite now.... but it is a bit easier to hit the target and scoring feels easier once mastered.
@@SpoonyPizzas by the way i posted a comment on your mL video about option files if you could see that and maybe help me i would greatly appreciate it.
Advanced shooting used to be outstanding, but in both last year and this year's PES it's absolutely borked. 90% of shots go wide of target, even easy ones under no pressure. The analogue sticks on the PlayStation are not good enough to use fine, granular control that Konami have switched manual shooting to now. Beforehand it was was much more forgiving, now it's borderline useless because if you hold in all the way in one direction, something nearly impossible not to do, it always goes wide.
I went back to basic after few hours practice + match as with my 73-74 finishing player the fully wide left/right aim simply does not work. With basic I almost never aim fully into the corner (if I do I got the same miss) and can score against best keepers but it is very difficult with advanced even if I want a low shot. Basic clicks to me pretty well so I stick to it. But I clearly see that with advanced it is much easier to go for top corner goals as it is just the analog while with basic it should take lot of bar and I always stop naturally at a point that I get a little bit elevated goal. :) Maybe I will come back few season later above 80 finishing or I will elevate more with basic to have more fun (with higher finishing there are more options). I am more of an efficiency guy than artist though and superstar in BAL is just cruel enough to go for the result - and a normal goal is still satisfying. ;)
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Pros: Greater variety. Cons: fighting off 20 years of muscle memory!
Great video. I'm sticking to basic shooting + manual shots when needed, but I'd definitely recommend advanced shooting to new players.
Really fighting with aiming at goal when shooting ...hard to get a grip on this inverted direction 🤯
How to activate advanced shooting??
Awesome tips, thank you. I’ve just started using manual shooting and the corner flag is my new best friend.
Lol
😂😂😂😂
Know how you feel 🤣
It took a while for me to get used to it, but once you do it's quite rewarding.
Top tip for tapping in drilled ground crosses is not to try and aim, just shoot neutral with analogue released and the player will guide the ball on its own momentum to the best place in the goal.
Works 90% of the time.
Thanks Longlostpuss, love the name btw.
Don't think I would ever score with this method. Still struggling to make basic skills stick. I forget what to do during a match.
I have switched to Advanced for like a month and it's extremely hard. 😢
It took me 2 days to master advanced shots. But now top corners are unlocked. These shots are awesome. Thanks man!
Pretty awesome stuff
I love advanced shooting but my only problem with it is it makes low finesse shots obsolete and at a certain point you realize it's much easier to just spam max power low shots into the bottom corner every time
Facts. One of the reasons I didn't like it before but there are instances when using finesse is worth while
@@SpoonyPizzas oh yeah definitely
Cutting in and bending it into the far post is so so satisfying with advanced shooting
I think you have a good point in these advanced skills - it's a steep learning curve but once you've mastered them you have an amazing toolbox to choose from.
And thanks for a great vid - I'm excited to try this out!
Thanks dude
2:37 FIFA physics lol 🤣
Personally I find the shooting (advanced) on the PC to be extremely random which I kinda like tbh because it keeps you guessing. Compared to PES 19 where I could put the ball on a penny pretty much 99% of the time although you have greater control it becomes a little predictable because I know what's going to happen before it happens and as a result gets a little dull over time.
However, my leniency regarding the randomness of PES 21 could be to do with my old age because if I had experienced this randomness when I was 10-15 years younger I probably would have stopped playing and attributing that to the shooting being 'broken'. I think I'm a lot more forgiving in my business years. But I can't help but love the context of 21 in other words; the play, the build up, the 'feel' - the jostling aspect and close contact/positioning is so immersive so much so that the inconsistencies with shooting seem somewhat irrelevant or if anything actually complement what's happening to the point where I'm left muttering to myself after I blaze a lightly tapped shot over the bar off the back of a mazing run into the box "...that's football" and to point, it is. You see 15-20 years ago when I would play friends and 'scripting madness' would happen and my controls were hijacked by the computer to aid the other player and as a result my players would do silly shit or the controls and play outcomes where just generally poor or inconsistent my friends would always smugly answer "well that's football." and I would quietly fume to myself 'no it's not it's a game and because it's a game I should have 100% control all the time!' but now I've come full circle but only because of Konami's ability to subtly weave these bits n bobs into the game now more discretely and realistically to a point where I am happy to accept what I would have called 'deliberate' outcomes. So a big credit to Konami for that.
So even if the shooting is somewhat wayward it all somehow works within the context of everything else (This of course is all based on offline single player) I don't think there is any need to discuss the dark side to this game here.
Anyways, overall the shooting is a bit of a miss-fest and knuckles are so random it's not even funny. In fact I have a modified team and 8 of my players have the knuckle card and I could do a 1000 different types of shot over the course of the match and still not get one knuckle. I know it's no longer double tap but I have tried to refine it down to no luck. I do the double knock on ...doesnt change anything, I have ran straight .. nope, coming from angles ... no change... big double touch ... no consistency .. in fact the only consistency is balloon over the bar. If someone knows how to knuckle at a very high consistency (as in at will) then I would happily pay you for that knowledge!
I’ve found (by accident I should add!) if you pull the left trigger (L2) whilst shooting that also gives you a ground shot...
I just a month ago started with PES 21 and I have been FIFA player since 2005. I will have to say that PES 21 is the one that made me feel like I am playing real football. You need skills to achieve anything here. It’s not like sticky ball on your feet and you run and shoot. PES is seriously more advanced and it also feels super satisfying when I score a goal because it makes me think I have put some hard work to achieve that. Ball physics is also far superior and it feels like a separate thing unlike FIFA where it just goes with you wherever you go. PES 21 is indeed superior. Thank you for this tutorial. It really helps :)
Bw efootball (PES 2022) is not looking that good. Hopefully it’s not what we all think it’s.
Thanks dude, I agree with everything you said! Ball physics, the difficulty of scoring a goal. When you're one on one with the goalie in FIFA it's always a goal
@@SpoonyPizzas Exactly 💯
@@SpoonyPizzas Bw please please share a video on maintaining players stamina if you had uploaded on it. I was unable find your video on it. In master league (I didn’t observe this in other modes), I am struggling to maintain players stamina. It’s coming down so quickly after just 25 minutes of the game. I thought I am doing something wrong like overusing standing tackle tackle where you press and hold X. Maybe that’s what is making it come down so quickly. So if there’s any video please share it.
Thanks for all the hard work you do to teach us and a Happy New Year !!!
And I "Overhead Kick" the like button LoL.
Haha thanks Dave and Happy New Year bud
It takes a while to get your bearings but it's worth it once you have it down. Because now, you have to figure out the direction of your shot with respect to the goal you're attacking. Like left is not backwards but simply lower and down is right. I still mess up once in a while during corners when the screen rotates to the kicker.
I've noticed you can hit top corners pushing LS to goal if you tap the shoot button extremely briefly.
So many helpful tips to help me with my career mode against my friends thank you! Hopefully more videos to come keep it up!
I've been using this mode since you dropped this video. Im enjoying it a lot.
But a lot of frustration early on lol I mean a lot!
Ended up blowing the title away I was playing in masterleague when I changed to advanced shooting lol
After 3 hours of struggling I went and practiced it in training and got way better doing that. I recommend training, I'm now scoring the best goals I've ever scored in this game. They look beautiful
Yeah definitely a learning curve. I've used it in the past and adapted quickly, but if you've never used it...it can take some time to get used to it
@@SpoonyPizzas I only moved over to pes in 19 properly. And since 20 I've been playing FUMA. But this is just way better then manual shooting. I still use manaul shooting in game holding left trigger to initiate it, I find it useful at times and especially for headers, I score a lot of headers with left trigger manual. I believe the players reaction is better.
Hey spoony been a ur supporter since day one i can't thank u enough for ur content I try to make up by liking every video u post and sharing to some of my pes friends u the reason my love for pes is growing day by day after watching ur content I get so excited to go home and try the new tricks and skills I learn fro. Ur videos pes gameplay is so deep amd u helping see everything the game can offer and I deeply thank u for ur hrs of testing and editing to get the content out there u truly a special pes RUclipsr.
Thanks Adam mate, means a lot. Happy New Year mate, hope it's a good one for you!
Advanced shooting makes the game so much more enjoyable, but I just shifted to manual shooting which is even more enjoyable. Once you get used to it.
Pes 20 was my first time ever playing a football game . before this , I used to play DLS on my phone which is manual. But after playing on Xbox for an year , I am unable to shift to manual. The problem Is that you have to hold LT to make manual passes which I find really difficult😭. Any tips/suggestions?
FANTASTIC video. It's been a while I've been trying it and now I feel more comfortable with that as time goes by.
Also one of the main reasons I switch to advanced was to pull off some low power dipping shots with high aiming that can loop over the goalie. Gonna submit some of those goals to goal of the month
This year is the thrid year with advance shooting. I love it. Especiality low shots with heel sometimes.
Hiii!! I want play against u.
@@jamesmenorca5074 Sorry, I don't play online. Only offline.
How do I change the way I shoot from square and run with r1 to R2 to run and O to shoot
Just getting to grips with advanced as manual albeit rewarding when you do score was hard.
My problem is though as I’m moving my player with the left analog is actually getting shots on target!
Spoony will you make a pes 2020 option file 2021 season kits and transfers for ps4 and thank you❤❤
Excellent spoony . Spoony you are the best youtuber that produce mastar leagues and skills in pes histroy i swear
Thanks dude 👍
@@SpoonyPizzas your welcome
Hey Spoony..I play on advanced shooting and understand the concept of pulling back on stick for low shots and vice versa. What I struggle is wanting to aim high..my shots always go over no matter if shoot with as little power as I can. Does the amount of tilt on Left stick have any say on the elevation? Also, how would you aim if you wanted a high shot in the MIDDLE of the goal? It's hard to wrap my head around holding Left stick UP or DOWN -- Like does that effect Elevation or Direction? Thanks Spoony.
So dynamic cam, if you push directly up you'll be aiming to the top left corner. Directly down and you'll be aiming at top right corner. Then power will decide how high it'll go depending on distance.
@@SpoonyPizzas thanks for the quick reply..will hit the training ground today to practice more. While I have your attention :) What would you say is the best MOD for PES 2021 on PC. I hear virtua red is pretty good.
Happy new year spoony your the reason I love PES and have made my year 10x better
Is there a video of you which combines all the important practical/basic tips for PES 2021? I need the lean meat without fat or fancy dribbling? Thanks a lot for all the tutorials
I have a lot. So it really depends. There's ultimate/complete defending tutorials. Cover the basics and advanced bits....or chance creation tutorial. There's passing tutorial. Just avoid top 3 skills/dribbling tutorials. Once you mastered the basics, super cancel is life changing. Gives you full control
does changing the controller deadzone make it easier for manual
I always preferred the basic shot option, as I had more control of my shots. I once tried to use the advanced shot and I messed things up. But surelyyou have more options with the advanced shot. If I had the opportunity, I would play some games with that type- of course in low difficulty, as I always to when I want to try something. Pity I don't have the PES 2021... Anyway, Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to everyone, keep your families safe and have a nice time.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year mate :)
I am having trouble in executing dipping and rising shot in pes2021 basic mode.. can you help since you used previously
@@TheShreem , I will ask Spoony in Discord to make such a tutorial. What I can tell you now is that you first need to check if your players have this special trait in their stats card (if they don't, they are not able to perform it) and I propose you to watch the relevant PES 2020 tutorial in Spoony's channel for dipping/ rising shots, as they are performed in a similar way. I hope that I cover you properly.
@@nikoszaxarias5200 players have the skill.. i am having difficulty in executing them
@@TheShreem sometimes I have difficulty too. I placed a request in Discord (where I think you just entered, if you did, welcome), so Spoony will answer in his way. So, for the time being, I recommend you to watch the relevant PES 2020 video, as I believe that there are not many differencies in the two versions.
Was trying manual shooting for a while but it seems to actually take away from the shot types you can pull off and see... advanced seems to give you more variety? And it saves you hitting the corner flag too 🙄
how to perform rising and dipping shots in advanced mode? same as basic mode?
Same mate
How??
How to do in basic mode? Rising and dipping?
@@TheShreem the uploader has tutorials in other video
R1+shot +direction (left or right)"full power
Maybe it’s me but the shots feel very delayed and when I cross it in whether in air I’m literally tapping and tapping the shot button to head it and the player just isn’t jumping or jumps so late. And on ground crossed I aim and hit the shoot button and the ball just hangs out at the players feet then he decides to flail at it and miss it. EVERYTIME. I do the same thing every shot as the cross is making its way to the player on the ground I aim and hit the shot button to hit it first time and what happens every time? He juggles it around his feet and misses the kick. Like I am hitting the shot button once when it’s on its way and another time when it gets there and 5 million more times and he’s not shooting till he finally does and misses it. And headers they never hear the ball. And when I try to shoot when I’m being closed down they take so long to shoot. Their foot goes back well after I hit the button and it goes back so slow that I can only shoot in tons of space. My experience with it has been very negative and unnatural. Maybe I’ll go back to manual or just practice more. I don’t know.
I hit the post many times! Any tips?
Does advanced shooting still exist in eFootball 2022? If so, how do I turn it on?
I've use advanced shooting on both 2020 and 2021 and just switched back to basic. On advanced shooting the player takes too long to shoot and i think it goes wide more frequently than basic.
Hello Pizza!!
How you targeting your shot?
In your example you said don’t push the ls stick directly to goal but you can push it up, when you push it up aren’t you pushing it directly to goal anyway, what’s the difference
Directly up or down. Not on the diagonal towards goal
that should help me renew the gameplay a bit , can't bother keep playing efootball
great video spoony!
Cheers mate
Great videos, thanks. I am new to PES and your videos have been helping.
Is advanced shooting something I need to enabled or is it really just pushing L back when shooting? I tried a little in training mode but not much success. Need to practice more I guess.
The "circle" to kind of aim also doesn't show up for me. Perhaps because it is not enabled or because I am using the "alternate" controls mode?
I get so frustrated when I miss easy goals...like just me and the keeper 😄
You can enable target /circle in the match screen menu in-game. I'd start with basic shooting, which is probably the best imo
Can you show long ball vs short pass I want to see how the player move like you did with pes18 counter attack vs Poseidon
Great video! Does it make a difference if i push the analog stick up or down to choose the corner while pressing shooting or if i press shooting first and then choose the direction with the analog stick?
Thanks dude, direction first. Once you press shoot, it's locked in and you can't change it
@@SpoonyPizzas Alright, thanks!
Is this possible with manual settings?
How can i download Champios League to PS4?
Been on advanced since 2019 just makes game more enjoyable. Spoony can you elaborate what you meant with 2021 dipping/rising shot ?
ruclips.net/video/VtISckh4r_Y/видео.html rising shot :) there's a dipping shot tutorial for PES 2020 too. Check those out mate. Same method applies to advanced
Thanks. previously watched your dipping tutorial but missed the rising. Maybe now I can pull off some rising shots with adv shooting. cause before they would just go over the bar with mid height aiming when they showed up sporadically
I figured it out ! Thanks spooney !
Is advanced or basic more viable online?
Nice, going to try it out, I still can’t do the scoop turn or 180 drag skill move in pes 2021, with romario, it’s like they took it out.
The ability to do low driven shots is the only reason I'm tempted by advanced.
I read somewhere that if you press the through ball button just after the shoot button on basic shooting that you can do a low driven shot.
Don't know if that's correct as I haven't had chance to play for quite a while to give it a go. Anyone know if it works?
No, that doesn't work mate. Just tap shoot with 0 power for low shots. Power is determined by player kicking powrr
Hitting the through ball button after shooting is how you do the move they brought in for '19, the "fly pass" or "fake pass", can't remember exactly what they call it. But anyway, you can power up a pass, cross or shot then hit through ball and instead of cancelling it switches to a through ball. I used it quite often when they first brought this in, but I can't say it makes any real difference and never really gazumps a defender whether they're an AI or human controlled one.
If you are powering up a high powered shot you can switch it to the through ball at the last minute so they look like they are going to thump it, then just dink a through ball instead but thanks to poor response times due to the typically terrible servers, that's damn near impossible to time right in online matches.
spoony what do you think about the man marking opcion, is it good or only in special cases?
It's useful mate, depends on situation though and opponent formation
Thanks spoony
Happy holidays bro
Hey Spoony great video. One thing for me though is I use the D Pad instead of left analogue stick to control my players. What tips could you give me???
Thanks all the best.
Learn the analogue stick. It'll be difficult at first but trust me... it will be SO worth it.
I used dpad for a long time. Man, just find some patience for a week or two. And then you'll have a lot more angles to pass and shoot.
ADVANCED SHOOTING!!!
Shoot+direction before player kicks the ball..
Press shot +left or right then press down key/key facing directly towards your own goal for low shots.
Shot +left or right full power for top corners.
Shot +left or right+R2 =Rocket shots "full power"
Finesse shots inside the box!!!
Move diagonally towards keeper press R2+shot +down key (key on d-pad pointing directly towards your own goal.)for low finesse shot.
If u r parallel with goal press R2+shot+down at the same time then and either left or right.
Or R1+R2+shot +left or right.
Chip shots
L1+shot+left then press right
L1+shot +right then press left
Or L1+ shot only with directions
L1+R2+shot only .(u may add down key)
Empty goal
Shot only (with no direction)
Headers (shot with no direction)or aim ur header diagonally down back across the keeper towards where the cross is coming from.
Stellar stuff as always Spoons. You always find a way to make content on something we always wanted to know at the back of our minds, but probably never bothered to look for/ask (if that makes any sense) 😂. I tried advanced shooting in pes 2018 with moderate success and didn't know what I was doing wrong until I saw this video.
I had one question. Chips from distance has always seemed rigged both in fifa and pes, I've tried it for years to score from 30-40 yards or beyond. But trying to lob one over the keeper rather than using the finesse shot or creating situations where the ball would go over the keeper if he's off his line. But it looks like it's achievable with advanced shooting. Can you try a few? Won't mind a video, even if very few actually went in. Looking for a goal like the one Totti scored against Inter at the San Siro (2005 or 06) in a 3-2 away win. I'm pretty sure you know which one I'm talking about. Good luck mate!
30-40 yards? No chance, not on Superstar or Legend. Maybe against Neurer cuz his player ID sucks and takes him out of goal lol. Would advise using finesse shot over lob from that distance
Hi Spoony ✌which shooting do you use for PES 21 ?
Basic and advanced :) and a bit of manual mixed in with basic
New comer from FIFA. I want to ask is there a specific settings to activate this advanced shooting?
When matching up, you can see home and away and you can also see controller symbol.
Just press X (xbox) or O (PS)
Then you will see
Great vid dude!
Also, are the controls to perform dipping and rising shots the same as basic shooting?
Yup! Push L-stick towards goal
Thanks!
My only problem with advanced shooting is the finesse shot, it only works inside 6 yard box but outside 18 yard/ at edge of the box you won't score a single goal out of ten attempts. Even if you edit a player with long range drive ,midrange culer,99 finishing ,place kicking & 99 shot power +precision or you can't score a single finesse shot outside the box on advanced shooting even with a 99+ rated player. Try ur luck in training mode and see how many u can score out of ten attempts.
Itls lie, i score from everyhere with advanced shot, i use since pes2014
Check my videos
I mean scoring finesse/controlled or curved shots outside the box on advanced shooting like it's easily done on basic with R2+shot
Not power shots coz I use ad shooting since pes 18 and I score powerful shots from weird angles but can't score a finesse shot outside the 18 yard box!!!!
Send me me a link of your videos scoring finesse/curled/controlled shots outside the box on advanced shooting .
Spoony bro most of the Bundesliga star players like Reus, hummels, halstenberg etc are not present in PES 21. But they were present in PES 20 as free agents at least. What can we do to get the official Reus, hummels etc? I installed PESunites option file and got all the teams kits players etc but the faces of most of the Bundesliga players ( Reus, Hummels etc) are fake. What to do?
Nothing you can do mate. The scans are no longer available. PESUniverse did a great job making them look fairly real but again, still noticeably fake.
someone can tell me if the target (circle in the goal) can be removed....
it can be removed
Would you advice i use basic or advanced shooting?
Basic if new and master this first. Then advanced if you're bored of basic
@@SpoonyPizzas I've played pes for a long time and i feel basic is the best for me...advanced makes me miss too many sitters and I'm not so clinical anyway😂😂...thanks though...i love your videos💪
@@SpoonyPizzas What if you play legendary on Fifa then just switched to Pes? Don't want to short myself but advanced isn't easy.
You can do dipping shots in PES 2020, I do them all the time
I enabled this back on PES 2018 and I have always used it since
Also I have noticed thst your grass Is default or at least it looks like it
What speed do you play the game against the AI? I switch between 0 and +1
0 mate
jesus christ... so i need to pull the stick away from goal for low shots?!... i've been doing the opposite for 17 years, its like asking to use brake pedal as gas and vice versa, never gonna happen.
is it me, or does enabling advanced shooting get rid of super cancel's ability to fool the AI?
You mean to cancel shots? No
@@SpoonyPizzas I mean when I was using super cancel with basic shooting, the AI would slide and try to block the shot, but when I switched to advanced, they no longer did that.
How to I go to practice match? I can't find it. Where is it?
During side select screen, press square and move shooting to Advanced instead of Basic
Do you play on shot type ‘advanced’?
Sometimes - like my Barcelona Master League
How about curved shot?
Happy New Year everyone but I jus start using manual shooting and in love with it
I used manual shooting in 2016 & 2017 - FUMA is incredible for 9 - 12 months but after a while it gets a bit boring, especially the shooting - just blasting shots in because why use finesse? Also, dislike the fact that it ignores stats - so why sign players with high passing/finishing stats. Advanced is probably my favourite now.... but it is a bit easier to hit the target and scoring feels easier once mastered.
@@SpoonyPizzas I respect that
Love this
I am absolutely terrible at shooting, I’ve only ever scored outside the box like 5 times in months.
Thanks I will try it asap! :) I remember in an older video you did not recommend it because "it was too easy" - and I did not even try it because I am fine with basic shooting. However watching this video and seeing that you can see the target it makes more sense to use it as it is "not just a feeling" of the controller anymore. Like in case of manual indicator.
I give it a try but yes the "only" thing to get familiar to it as with basic shooting you likely aim toward the goal and not only left-right because it would be "too much".
I play BAL and my finishing is just 73 right now and scoring many goals with basic shooting on Superstar. I will check if it works fine with "bad" finishing stat too and not worse. With low finishing shot I do not aim too wide on basic because I know I would miss it (so around diagonal). With advance it does not work anymore unless going for low shot. Let's see. :)
I hope it will be more fun and not just "exploiting a tool". Scoring was fine on basic too. :)
EDIT: I tried it in game and practice. Yes for my safe not that precise shot I have to shoot always low shot unless I hold the little bit "left/right" aim with my finger steadily during the shot which is difficult. For that purpose I prefer basic shooting because I can just hold forward until the "wall" and fine tunning the amount of left/right easier - I rarely use full left/right aim especially with my 70-73 finishing player. Well I am okay with the low shot anyway as I almost always shoot in that range with basic - sometimes I dare to rise it. :) I may give it a try though why not.
EDIT2: I could score with finesse shot in the top corner from close range with the same power I did with basic shot but with basic it would have gone low but same goal. At least I can see not only low shot. Unless I do not do rather higher power low shots as recommended too. Hard to say which is better for low finishing stat player yet. I need to avoid max left/right aiming unless it is not close range and finesse shot. It was much easier with basic yet as I could release a shot from 17-18 meters and hit the target even if it was saved but with advanced it is more difficult to not aim too wide (unless it is a low shot). Different perspective as with basic shot the power bar is not "power" while in advance it is. Overall more freedom with advanced for sure. Basic shot is more simple only need to aim and elevation but no power - sometimes AI can frustrate with the adjusted bad power but I know it wants the best for me to hit the target haha. :)
I do not really want easier goals either. I already scored a goal with a curved finesse shot into the top corner which would have not been a goal on basic (as on basic I would have not pressed the power bar that high). It looks like easier to hit even the top corner with less power than with basic. Need more experience and find out which is more fun to me.
I like the fact that power bar is truly a power bar so if I want to hit it harder it is just up to me. :D Aiming the heading feels more fair too even if it does not hit the target. With basic it is up to the AI if it is go down or not (I developed Heading skill card to get it better).
I have not scored an angled shot yet when I pass the keeper the aiming will be probably weird. With basic I simply aim toward the goal but with advanced it will be different.
Merry Xmas to you and the family, bud.
Why don’t you play Manuel ? Assisted is no challenge
Manual is boring. I played manual before it was cool in 2016-2017 after 6-9 months playing it gets boring fast imo
Adv shooting is fun, but your gonna hit it straight at the keeper alot
I don't shoot at the keeper a lot just push l-stick
what's your camera??
Check my best cam settings video mate
Which one do you find being more fun, Advanced or manual?
Going to copy and paste a reply :) - I used manual shooting in 2016 & 2017 - FUMA is incredible for 9 - 12 months but after a while it gets a bit boring, especially the shooting - just blasting shots in because why use finesse? Also, dislike the fact that it ignores stats - so why sign players with high passing/finishing stats. Advanced is probably my favourite now.... but it is a bit easier to hit the target and scoring feels easier once mastered.
@@SpoonyPizzas by the way i posted a comment on your mL video about option files if you could see that and maybe help me i would greatly appreciate it.
@@mohametgiapra9932 which one mate?
@@SpoonyPizzas on your previous one. The master league episode 5
Hey @spoony Pizzas do TARGET MAN guide, please.
How to activate advanced shooting spoony
Used it for years 😉
If only I had the time to sink into this game
You play PC or console?
Both
Advanced shooting used to be outstanding, but in both last year and this year's PES it's absolutely borked. 90% of shots go wide of target, even easy ones under no pressure. The analogue sticks on the PlayStation are not good enough to use fine, granular control that Konami have switched manual shooting to now. Beforehand it was was much more forgiving, now it's borderline useless because if you hold in all the way in one direction, something nearly impossible not to do, it always goes wide.
Yes, you are right, I got it today, after 1 years advanced shooting, this is a sh!t game
This 100% needs to change in PES 2022! So much potential but it's the most unintuitive system ever.
Well I've used it since PES 15 and it's the best decision I've ever made in PES lol😅
This is the shot that I prefer. Automatic is too lame.
Nice
I went back to basic after few hours practice + match as with my 73-74 finishing player the fully wide left/right aim simply does not work. With basic I almost never aim fully into the corner (if I do I got the same miss) and can score against best keepers but it is very difficult with advanced even if I want a low shot.
Basic clicks to me pretty well so I stick to it. But I clearly see that with advanced it is much easier to go for top corner goals as it is just the analog while with basic it should take lot of bar and I always stop naturally at a point that I get a little bit elevated goal. :)
Maybe I will come back few season later above 80 finishing or I will elevate more with basic to have more fun (with higher finishing there are more options). I am more of an efficiency guy than artist though and superstar in BAL is just cruel enough to go for the result - and a normal goal is still satisfying. ;)
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50th NOOOO WASNT FIRST
The advanced shooting of pes 2016 was the best, after that they ruined it imo
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