Comment from a Facebook friend - Dear Ian, thank you very much for the last two videos ! I enjoyed them very much.I must say, I have never visited Gorleston old cemetery myself. But now I’ll definitely have a look when we visit relatives next time. I was sad to hear, that Cissie died of a brain tumor! I work as a neurosurgeon here in Germany, and specialize in brain tumor surgery. It must have been terrible to suffer from brain tumors in those days! Regarding your last video: I have very fond memories of my grandparents, taking us to the boating pond in Lowestoft! Thanks again! I’m looking forward to your next project! Best regards from Germany!
Thanks for sharing this, Ian. 👌🙌 I really loved your video and the story of Sissy Drummee. I was particularly interested in your thoughts that this incredible monumental statue could well be Italian in origin. Not least, as it smacks heavily with much resonance of the Staglieno Cemetery in Genoa, Northern Italy. Have you heard of it? I was drawn to this incredible place; a testimony to human sculpturing skill some 43 years ago, when my love-affair with the band Joy Division began. 1980 was the tragic death of the lead singer, Ian Curtis. Specifically, their album cover for Closer and the single cover for Love Will Tear Us Apart, were taken from images from the French photographer, Bernard Pierre Wolfe, who visited and documented this cemetery in 1978. I myself went on my own pilgrimage to Staglieno, in 2010. I adore cemetery sculptures and thus, was attracted like a moth to the flame to Cissy. I will make my own way to see her in Gorleston soon, thanks to you. So thanks again for your most informative post. Below, I attached a couple of my own photos from my time in wonderful, magnificent, Staglieno. ❤
I have been into GY Cemetery many times but not yet Gorleston. Sadly the GY cemetery has a few undesirables walking/hanging around there now, Gorleston one seems much better. I shall have to visit it soon, my dad was cremated at Gorleston Crematorium.
Feedback from Facebook provides some additional information regarding this memorial. Florence Drummee - we are unable to find a second marriage for her, and there is a widowed Florence Drummee, living in Yarmouth, on the 1939 Register. According to several family trees on Ancestry she died in 1955, so maybe Gorleston Old Cemetery was full by then, although most cemetery authorities would allow at least burial of ashes in the family grave. We do not know why Florence Drummee is not buried in the same grave as her two daughters, her late husband and her sister. We believe the lady named on the memorial was Florence’s sister. Not Benjamin’s. Florence Clifford was the maiden name of Benjamin’s wife. According to records, they married in Edmonton, London, on September 3, 1900. One viewer says “I still believe the memorial statue is that of Cissie’s mother mourning the loss of two daughters and her husband.” Trevor Greenwood says he was among the people who restored the memorial. “Hi Ian the only other people I can name on this particular clean were Donna Lelean, Alison Smith and Chrissie Pye. Obviously it is a team game people making tea people fetching and carrying gear … but these three were main contributors to this particular clean.”
From Chris Wright, Facebook - I have discovered Cissie died of a cerebral tumour at 23 Salisbury Rd (Admiral Seymour pub?) and had not been employed at the time. A cousin W E Leach was present and registered the death.
Feedback from Facebook provides some additional information. Florence Drummee - we are unable I to find a second marriage for her, and there is a widowed Florence Drummee, living in Yarmouth, on the 1939 Register. According to several family trees on Ancestry she died in 1955, so maybe Gorleston Old Cemetery was full by then, although most cemetery authorities would allow at least burial of ashes in the family grave. We do not know why Florence Drummee is not buried in the same grave as her two daughters, her late husband and her sister. We believe the lady named on the memorial was Florence’s sister. Not Benjamin’s. Florence Clifford was the maiden name of Benjamin’s wife. According to records, they married in Edmonton, London, on September 3, 1900. One viewer says “I still believe the memorial is that of Cassie’s mother mourning the loss of 2 daughters and her husband.” Trevor Greenwood says was among the people who restored the memorial. “Hi Ian the only other people I can name on this particular clean were … Donna Lelean, Alison Smith and Chrissie Pye. Obviously it is a team game people making tea people fetching and carrying gear … but these three were main contributors to this particular clean.”
Feedback from Facebook - Florence may not have owned the grave. If this was the case she could not be buried in it. One or all of the owners were probably already in there so no permission could be granted.
I was disappointed today I came back to the cemetery today to visit my family's grave and it was gone there was three members buried there my g grandmother my g aunt and her bus band my g grandmother was layed to rest Oct 1 1949 ,I visited the site back in 1978 all was fine clean and in good condition, her name was Sarah Arabella Gilson , I'm from Australia such a long way to travel to pay my respects to my English family ,my wife and my son spent hours to no avail can someone give me some help.
A very moving tale of a beautiful sculpture with a touch of mystery. Will definitely visit this.
A very sad tale but brilliant video Ian . A fitting tribute to this family and those who restored the grave and others .
I have lived in Gorleston for 30 years and never been to the old cemetery. I have been too Yarmouth cemetery countless times.
I guess it gets overlooked. Unless you have ancestors and relatives buried there. I do like that memorial! Ian B 💛
Comment from a Facebook friend - Dear Ian, thank you very much for the last two videos ! I enjoyed them very much.I must say, I have never visited Gorleston old cemetery myself. But now I’ll definitely have a look when we visit relatives next time. I was sad to hear, that Cissie died of a brain tumor! I work as a neurosurgeon here in Germany, and specialize in brain tumor surgery. It must have been terrible to suffer from brain tumors in those days! Regarding your last video: I have very fond memories of my grandparents, taking us to the boating pond in Lowestoft! Thanks again! I’m looking forward to your next project! Best regards from Germany!
Thanks for sharing this, Ian. 👌🙌
I really loved your video and the story of Sissy Drummee.
I was particularly interested in your thoughts that this incredible monumental statue could well be Italian in origin.
Not least, as it smacks heavily with much resonance of the Staglieno Cemetery in Genoa, Northern Italy. Have you heard of it?
I was drawn to this incredible place; a testimony to human sculpturing skill some 43 years ago, when my love-affair with the band Joy Division began. 1980 was the tragic death of the lead singer, Ian Curtis.
Specifically, their album cover for Closer and the single cover for Love Will Tear Us Apart, were taken from images from the French photographer, Bernard Pierre Wolfe, who visited and documented this cemetery in 1978. I myself went on my own pilgrimage to Staglieno, in 2010.
I adore cemetery sculptures and thus, was attracted like a moth to the flame to Cissy. I will make my own way to see her in Gorleston soon, thanks to you.
So thanks again for your most informative post.
Below, I attached a couple of my own photos from my time in wonderful, magnificent, Staglieno. ❤
I have been into GY Cemetery many times but not yet Gorleston. Sadly the GY cemetery has a few undesirables walking/hanging around there now, Gorleston one seems much better. I shall have to visit it soon, my dad was cremated at Gorleston Crematorium.
Gertrude Clifford appears on the 1911 census as Benjamin’s sister-in-law when they were at the Mitre.
Feedback from Facebook provides some additional information regarding this memorial.
Florence Drummee - we are unable to find a second marriage for her, and there is a widowed Florence Drummee, living in Yarmouth, on the 1939 Register. According to several family trees on Ancestry she died in 1955, so maybe Gorleston Old Cemetery was full by then, although most cemetery authorities would allow at least burial of ashes in the family grave. We do not know why Florence Drummee is not buried in the same grave as her two daughters, her late husband and her sister.
We believe the lady named on the memorial was Florence’s sister. Not Benjamin’s. Florence Clifford was the maiden name of Benjamin’s wife. According to records, they married in Edmonton, London, on September 3, 1900.
One viewer says “I still believe the memorial statue is that of Cissie’s mother mourning the loss of two daughters and her husband.”
Trevor Greenwood says he was among the people who restored the memorial. “Hi Ian the only other people I can name on this particular clean were Donna Lelean, Alison Smith and Chrissie Pye. Obviously it is a team game people making tea people fetching and carrying gear … but these three were main contributors to this particular clean.”
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From Chris Wright, Facebook - I have discovered Cissie died of a cerebral tumour at 23 Salisbury Rd (Admiral Seymour pub?) and had not been employed at the time. A cousin W E Leach was present and registered the death.
Feedback from Facebook provides some additional information.
Florence Drummee - we are unable I to find a second marriage for her, and there is a widowed Florence Drummee, living in Yarmouth, on the 1939 Register. According to several family trees on Ancestry she died in 1955, so maybe Gorleston Old Cemetery was full by then, although most cemetery authorities would allow at least burial of ashes in the family grave. We do not know why Florence Drummee is not buried in the same grave as her two daughters, her late husband and her sister.
We believe the lady named on the memorial was Florence’s sister. Not Benjamin’s. Florence Clifford was the maiden name of Benjamin’s wife. According to records, they married in Edmonton, London, on September 3, 1900.
One viewer says “I still believe the memorial is that of Cassie’s mother mourning the loss of 2 daughters and her husband.”
Trevor Greenwood says was among the people who restored the memorial. “Hi Ian the only other people I can name on this particular clean were …
Donna Lelean, Alison Smith and Chrissie Pye. Obviously it is a team game people making tea people fetching and carrying gear … but these three were main contributors to this particular clean.”
Cissie. Not Cassie.
Feedback from Facebook - Florence may not have owned the grave. If this was the case she could not be buried in it. One or all of the owners were probably already in there so no permission could be granted.
I was disappointed today I came back to the cemetery today to visit my family's grave and it was gone there was three members buried there my g grandmother my g aunt and her bus band my g grandmother was layed to rest Oct 1 1949 ,I visited the site back in 1978 all was fine clean and in good condition, her name was Sarah Arabella Gilson , I'm from Australia such a long way to travel to pay my respects to my English family ,my wife and my son spent hours to no avail can someone give me some help.
I will look into this for you. Are you on Facebook?
@briangilson2818 grave 8 area P I have maps if you contact me I can send . Next time I'm there I'll search and take a photo
Yes I am, Brian Gilson port macquarie Australia
@@briangilson2818 can you email me please? ianbullock29@gmail.com. I might be able to assist