@@TheAuron32 I can, it literally never fills and I still need to do Coil 4. Edit, Ok thanks people so many replies, I am lvl 80 on my WHM and now Paladin, I was just waiting on the queues because I is dumb, and now our Lady Zepla has undumbed me, I probably can solo it just did not realise because even tho I have been playing since about a month after ARR started there is still stuff I don't know. Thanks again such a nice crowd here.
Unwritten rule: If you're going to be doing weird stuff, there's a time and a place for it, and it's called Limsa Lominsa Aetheryte Plaza, and the time is always
3:37 a small correction: If you're in a raid and see someone jumping up and down, they're either showing you the safe spot where you should be, or they are a Dragoon. If they're jumping off a cliff, they're definitely a Dragoon.
I just started this game and I was in the ice dragon dungeons (idk the name) and the tank pulled so many enemies I was spamming cure 2 and he still died but he said sorry and was a good tank after that 1 incident
love it when a sprout tank who watched some guides does wall to wall pulls but saves all his CD's for the next boss while i play the healer-piano and try to save him
Don't assume everyone with a sprout icon is a veteran playing an alt and that they know all the unspoken rules! If you see a sprout, assume they are new. But also, if you're a sprout, be aware some people will not assume sprout = new because all new characters get sprout icons even if the account is not new.
Also, people who are returners and have yet to reach current content can also be sprouts if it takes them too long to do so. The little crown will fall off their sprout.
I started playing two weeks ago, i already have 6 jobs at lvl 80 (thanks covid) and still have a sprout, people don't even take me seriously when i try to advise them 😭😂
If you join a group on Party Finder and someone explains to you the mechanic after you failed it 5 times in a row, dont pretend to know how it's done. Just read the instrucctions your teammates are giving.
Good advice. On my very first ifrit run I didn't understand it was important to kill the nail quickly. We wiped, my party explained to me, and we got it the second time.
Unwritten Rule: When doing raids where the three parties are required in different areas that lock off, wait until people are in the right places. I had this issue in the first crystal tower raid. Group A just charged ahead when C where lagging behind a bit. The area got locked, and the teleport in function threw them into the same area as the A group. That was a wipe and a half. xD
If someone helps you complete a difficult quest objective, it's polite to stay and assist them in return. Also, if someone stops to help you while you're dying, that's not an excuse to run away and leave your problems with them. Stop and help them who are helping you.
Thank you for this! I wish more people would watch your video and think about other players. I did the final battles in realm reborn this morning and got left in the dungeon three times. I was so lost I just had to wait for the message to pop up asking if I wanted to join the fight. One person stayed with me and I thought that was lovely. I do have to say the community is still better than World of Warcraft!
"This is the idiot test of ffxiv. You've seen this crap earlier somewhere. And you'll see it a lot more. If you get past this, you can make it past Stormblood" How I explain it everytime there's a new guy.
When I did that boss for the first time, I was in a group of all sprouts. It was a struggle and honestly one of the most fun experiences I had in FFXIV.
5:13 While this has certainly been a trend that's happened to me as a Lala main, I more often find myself being instead adopted by Hrothgar players. I got no complaints, but I'm just confused as to how it keeps happening. Some really like my glams, others just want to talk, one or two maybe just end up having that, "This is a smol and I must protecc," instinct flare up and boom. New Hroth friend.
Funnily enough, it's the other way around for me. More often than not I just randomly sit on some place with my legs crossed, I blink and a random lala pops up from between my legs. I don't know where they came from, I don't know what they want, I don't know why they chose me. All I know is that I can no longer move until they leave. It's like having a pet sleeping on your legs.
@@Eelanos Nah, I wouldn't do that to a random Hroth sitting around. The most I've ever done was sneak some /pets and then dash. Admittedly, those times where I get caught are the only times where I know the reason why the friendship cometh.
Please oh my god, it sucks as a healer when the tank just runs and runs and I’m still 30 seconds away from sprint… and then they die because they didn’t let me catch up
I play with my partner who happens to be Dragoon, best Class in my opinion. Always take him to hard dungeons, keeps me safe while I make everything burn.
If you're a healer, especially a shield healer, you can toss a shield or heal on them without even having to sync your level. Super useful for lvl 80s walking through ARR areas.
@@JBRam2002 I actually did this, while doing some darknight stuff I saw some low levels having trouble with a fate so I swap to astro and healed them to max with a shield
I do this all the time. Same with if I see a sprout in a fight and their HP is very low. I'm not a fan of Bozja, but I do like how nice people are there in getting to someone who needs a rez.
Absolutely agree. I can only wish that more people allow others to watch the boss movies. This was a sore-spot/paranoia for me, because it happened multiple times while I was DPS and was in my first few months of playing. I'm sure many have queued for daily roulettes, but there ARE new players, even now, and when they come out of the video to see everyone else already "in", I guarantee they'll start skipping the scenes and some are actually fun to watch (for some people, at least). :( (This is also part of why I just go with the Trust team, for the most part, now)
@@chrismurphy4952 Me! I’m a new player and was on discord with my healer who is my mentor and we had two people from duty finder. I was in my cut scene and I heard him yelling and keys tapping so I asked what’s up...he said “they pulled the party while you’re in the cut scene” I immediately jumped out and haven’t watched watched a cut since
@@Pick3WinningTicket - Yeah, honestly it would be nice if they could add in a mechanic where you could have 1 or 2 people in a group join you and then fill it out with a Trust NPC. Then, like in your case, you could have your friend AND the cutscenes.
@@Pick3WinningTicket I'm the healer who does not give a single fuck if my team goes in while I'm in a cutscene. If you want to walk back from spawn because you could not wait a few seconds then thats on you.
As a healer, never use rescue EXCEPT to troll your friends. Seriously, I've never seen it used well in duty finder, most people will take it as disrespect, it doesn't help people learn, and if it's a BLM you could be screwing up everything they're trying to do.
@@thevoxdeus ive used it several times in crystal tower raid whenever i see someone struggling to catch up to the pads. usually melee players. you can definitely use it in PUG groups. i agree that you shouldnt rescue BLM though, most of the time theyre already aware of their imminent demise
Yeah the "let people finish cutscenes" thing was big for me. I was finishing up the ARR story and the final dungeon had a pretty massive cutscene, and when I finished it I learned that the rest of the team had aggro'd nearby enemies, brought them to my location, and then got me killed. Kinda weird that people are grinding story mission dungeons but expecting new people to skip the cutscene and "watch it on RUclips after the dungeon", but okay.
If they want to run without sprouts they can. They can make premade party and all. So don't worry about it. If anyone queues for random and gets a sprout he has to respect it. If he doesn't want to, it is his own problem, because he has the ability to form party other ways and make premade parties as well.
My brother used to have a "friend" who lost his mind I *both* watched cutscenes AND read dialogue, he ended up joining, leaving, asking my brother if I had done the instance already, and if yes wanted a new invite 😂
@@Suzume175 That's understandable although I feel like some people aren't actually staring at your glamor they might actually just be examining to see what you have on cuz they might want to work for themselves.
When I was going through the Thousand Maws for story my group killed the boss while I was in the cutscene. I went from cutscene, to victory scene without a break. Though I think that one yanks the first couple people into the boss room.
Started in mid Heavensward, first normal raid i did was Coils, had the same group for all of the tiers and they were adamant about letting me take my time and watch the cutscenes....told me to take as many screenshots as i wanted to, I’ll never forget that group!
I started about 2 and half weeks ago and in one of the low level dungeons on the last boss, the one with a spider thing where an npc talks to you for a very long time. They killed the boss AND left before I was done lol. I was like.. well at least they didnt boot me from the group for just standing around watching movies. /shrug =/ edit @Wolfgang Hype, same one as me I believe.
Too keep this simple I don't pull the last boss of any dungeon until all four people are in the arena. The cutscene hard stops you well before crossing the purple line.
Also, if you don't do some serious content like current savage or extreme, and a dancer picked you (a drg) as their dance partner... give them the first eye
"If you notice a party member is watching a cutscene, you better wait." As a healer, I have let tanks die because they just run in while someone was watching a cutscene...and no, I'm not sorry, pay attention to your group, if you don't have the courtesy to wait, then you don't need heals rofl.
I'm so glad this is a thing because i am new to the game and I didn't know this at the time but in my very first dungeon while I and the rest of the party were watching a cutscene and getting loot, the tank ran off and pulled multiple mobs. And I typed in chat after he died "this is what happens when you don't wait" as the mobs bore down and killed the rest of us
I have macro'd "Don't skip, just let me die!" For if I screw up as tank. It's easy to mess up and forget this is someone else's first time 30 times into a dungeon but that doesn't mean they should suffer. That's on me.
@@sendicard That is really cool and you deserve a lot of respect for that. I've had it happen quite a few times, but most of them have been that same kind of situation, only a couple have been from someone just being a jerk, and honestly, as someone who in a lot of mmos with my best friend, would rather run in myself to take the aggro so she could live (in a bad situation where we knew death was coming lol) it killed me all those times standing outside the lockout and not healing rofl.
As a sprout healer I was watching a cutscene and the rest of the group did not want to wait. I came out of the cutscene to a warp prompt, a dead tank, a dead dps, and the bard almost dead. Honestly they didn't deserve me fixing that.
It also doubles as fun practice for setting waymarks efficiently! Make a game out of spelling cid (or as mentioned, dicbag) before he blows up the door!
"Don't run around like a headless chicken" This one bears repeating Please Please for the love of god Just bring the mobs to me Let me help you Its my job Please
Yeah, my unspoken rule as a tank is if you attack it before I can even 'pull', I'll allow you to tank until half of your health is depleted. That or you bring it to me. Most impatient players get the idea when they realize I let them 'reap what they sow' when their health gets low and I am over in a different area 'tanking'.
When i play my first char, i was being taught by a tank player. The first rule her taught me was " when your targetted and it is not a mechanic, run to your tank."
The first time I targeted someone who was AFK for like a week in Limsa they targeted me back. I logged out immediately... they were at the keyboard.... they are watching... aiiiieeeeeee
As a healer this is important. My bubble is put down to give the tanks and melee some extra staying power, i do this to allow me to start a dps burst, the circle is safe though and it means thats the area i want the damn fight in, dont pull it and those protected by my bubble away
theres actually an entire list of unwritten jumping dialogue jumping in place when you havent moved yet: hurry up, i'm impatient jumping once, turning, and jumping again- it's that way! jumping while moving: i'm bored jumping in place during fightt: either 'over here is safe' of 'holy crap i just barely survived' jumping after another person jumps, usually while idle: hi!
This is a product of people playing with a controller right? Only just returned after beta and never noticed, this is also not a thing in other MMOs I've played.
back in the days u could skip that cutsceens meaning u where non stop in cutsceens if it was your first time doing it :D (thats how my first runs did go)
My first run of those places as a sprout 🌱 tank and still a sprout didn’t go well. I barely had an idea where the groups were watching the cutscenes. Spent almost the entire dungeon being completely lost with no group around. I never got to actually learn those dungeons. Thus today, I also never bother to queue for them either. Even though it’s chaotic fun those particular dungeon, I’ve never understood anything much about them having to hurry through my cutscenes and being lost.
I have recently started playing and I'm totally new (like a few weeks now) and notoriously terrible at MMOs, but FFXIV is the first time I've ever gotten in so deep and had such a wonderful time. I'm really enjoying your content and it is helping me so much. So I just wanted to say a big thank you for this channel and the work you put into it!
Yeah I haven't played MMO's for ages. I kept trying to get into Elder Scrolls Online but I just found it boring. I like FF14 a lot more, and I actually have to stop myself from playing it rather than making myself play, as I did in ESO. I've been playing for around a week now.
I so happy to hear you enjoy the game! Knowing the amazing twists and turns ahead makes me even more excited for your journey ahead! ^.^! I hope you continue to have a fun experience with FFXIV! 💕
Till you get to the end and you have to run the same instance day after day for gear and you have to wait 6 months for the next instance you will run day after day cuz the gear you wanted day after day farming is now worthless welcome to the reality of xiv
@@Confuseddalek - Indeed! In the case of Flying, I try to "cross the finish line" like it was a race (a flying race specifically), so I'll swoop downwards before the zone line. XD
you can jump with mounts if you turn on flying after double jumps. i like to jump from up high with mounts and then swoop up a little before hitting the ground
@@LilypadOW Long and short is dragoons tend to dive-bomb the floor with their lance for some of their attacks, they also tend to have challenges with positioning during AOEs due to their jumping animation locking them in place for precious seconds...which often leads to hilarity, they also have a back dash which when fighting on a floating platform with no guard rails results in even more hilarity. This isn't to say they're a bad class, I main one right now, they just have some quirks have to be mindful of, or "you're going to have a bad time".
@@LilypadOW dragoon main here. You have no idea how many times that’s happened or I’ve seen it happen. It’s funny as hell though and I got my friend into FF XIV who happened to choose Lancer, it’s gonna be a fun experience for them
@@LilypadOW it's an old joke from ARR that a dragoon's rotation included dying so clearly you were a bad dragoon if you couldn't complete your rotation
As a sprout.... one thing that would be great is if I could give commendations during the cutscenes after a boss. I don't know how many times in ARR i finished a boss, there was an automatic cutscene, and then everyone was gone and I couldn't give a commendation to anyone.
there is a way to turn off the cutscenes after you already watch it. so if you are doing a dungeon that you already done, then you dont have to see the victory pose again.
Unwritten Rule: Everyone is new to the content once, so never assume everyone knows all the mechanics at any time, especially in the first week of a new Raid or Trial.
Them sprout tanks make me giggle sometimes watching them constantly run around the mobs lol. Or when the ranged dps thinks they're "kiting" but they're not using bind skills and they're just running around getting hit. You can't out run that auto-attack if it's close to you, let me help you keel et! Else I'm gonna watch you struggle, then die, because I'm not chasing you.
Oh my god i had that issue with someone on the day after Seat of Sacrifice released. Mind you I don't mean the EX. This dude got so pissed off at us for not knowing what we're doing in the fight on our first time running it in the story. Was sad day
I try to take the piss out of people who are the "watch the video" type the first two weeks of a raid. Usually something super sarcastic like "How *DARE* you not watch a video for something that has been out for less than 24 hours!!!!!"
Same here. I just started playing last week. I am loving it so far but this game is kind of overwhelming there is so much to it. So much more than any MMO I have ever played. I have been binging on videos like this and class guides to try to not embarrass myself or annoy others.
I'm a sprout and a gladiator, and I actually missed one bossfight completely because I wanted to watch the important cutscene and one guy with the guns decided he wanted to be the tank, so the rest of the team beat the boss before I finished the cutscene :| I know it was a low level dungeon and he was probably just trying to speed through it but jesus have some respect
I had the exact same thing, i got a level up mid cutscene because of it and then after the cutscene played, it immediately played the of the boss dying.
Im pretty sure you're talking about The Jaws of Toto Rak dungeon, because its known for its infamously long cutscenes and short boss fight so no one really waits for the sprouts to finish. It happened with me too 😅
Me and my friend, tank and healer sprouts, were watching the cutscene before the final dungeon boss and we saw indications that the fight had started. We let them die :)
ironic how they started to fight to speed things up because they didnt want to wait for you and made the entire thing take longer due to them being impatience
There was one time this happened when I was in a dungeon. Another player was jumping around and accidentally pulled the boss.... the tank was the one watching a cut scene
There's really only 1 dungeon I could sort of give them a pass on idr what the name was it was the one with the photocells.. Many a time have I seen someone pull the boss because they took 1 step too close and get sucked in
lol why are the DPS always the impatient ones You're patient enough to play a class with 20-minute queue times but you don't have 30 seconds for a damn monster cutscene *rolleyes*
THANK YOU!!! I've been arguing with people on reddit about how sprouts may want to learn and suffer for the fun of learning new content, and everyone's like "youre not better than 3, 7, or 23 other people in the party". I don't want advice until i ask for it, you can wipe and suffer with me >=)
@@theblackneon5396 yeah, on the fights i know mechanics of, i always ask the newer people if they want tips or whatever, if they do, ill provide, if not, i dont :)
You can just alt+tab and watch youtube or whatever. In Win10 you can just hover over the icon and watch for the cutscene to fade to black then alt+tab back in.
I cannot stress enough the unspoken rule of letting the new players watch their cutscenes. The impatience that people can have with sprouts watching cutscenes is why we now have an MSQ Roulette where you can't skip the cutscenes. For those who don't know, MSQ Roulette actually did once allow cutscene skipping, but because nobody was patient with anyone, here we are. MSQ cutscenes we can't skip, and a Gaius speech that is drilled into our DNA at this point. The game has a great story, so let the sprouts experience it.
Had one guy literally sit where I was standing while playing. Thankfully the crowd that were being nice and giving me a nice semi-circle to enjoy the tunes started endlessly poking him till he left.
The party ran off while I was watching my cutscene. I got lost and no one would even respond to requests for help to catch up with the party. So, I ended up leaving the party, and hopped in queue again. Another 30 minute wait and got into a new party. They did nothing but gripe and complain because I wanted watched the cutscenes, even though at least they didn't leave me stranded. After that I left the game. I don't need that kind of crap in a game. Its a real shame as I really enjoyed FFXIV but I won't be going back again.
Pay attention to party chat in dungeons. Don't be the tank who ignores "Put tank stance on" spammed in chat because you forgot. Also, don't miss "BRB phone" or "BRB Door". Use Commendations. There's a challenge log entry for it. And people appreciate a "GJ"
Same goes for if you are the tank and the healer is asking you to use cooldowns or do smaller pulls. In fact just dont assume that healers are okay with big pulls unless they say so
@@BazzFreeman I am kinda omni leveling, I dont have any classes below 67, but right now am getting them all to 70. But I prefer healing to other things. DPS wanting to pull bigger than I was confortable with tanking ruined tanking for random peeps for me.
@@baichibee Can I flex? All DPS and Healers at 80, all Crafters at 80. just tanks to go for the complete set. :) Just got to 800 commendations, so just 700 to go for Mentor. I think that's the point where I turn into a complete asshat judging by the mentors I've seen in game.
@@BazzFreeman Based on how most mentors have acted to me or other sprouts, its almost like its a requirement to be an asshole to be a mentor, though I think most "mentors" are only mentors to get the extra roulette half the time, also nice flex. Im just challanging myself to only do the story if all my classes are the same level as the story. I honestly am not sure where im at for mentor status, but its not something i really want like i did in FF11
Unwritten rule: Absolutely no spoilers. No exceptions. Neither in game, in a discord server (unless the channel is flagged) and in real life. Everyone should experience the story untainted.
just got the motivation to play again. rando spoils the ending of my expansion in chat. no context. wasnt part of a bigger conversation. feelings. not sure which feelings but lot of em.
2:56 I started FFXIV this week, and I was in a dungeon (the manor thing ? somewhere around lv30) and I was watching cinematic and when I got control of my character, I saw that the tank had started the boss, realised I wasn't there, and written a good 10 lines of apology in the chat haha Coming from other games (such as Lol), it's very nice to see a community that actually understands that new players want to watch cinematics and stuff
@@BulborbStare I remember a similar thing happening without a Tank since they were watching the cutscene. We still beat it, but the fight was close. Made me feel bad we didn't wait on them though.
Me too! When I started playing I had a similar experience with a nice tank apologizing for not waiting. I was so shocked, coming from WoW where people are a lot more likely to be cold and irritated.
I made a greet macro specifically for saying hi and it uses o/ and the lali-ho emote and for the past week no one has lali-ho'd back, even in fate grinds. It breaks my heart
Two from a newbie sprout: For the love of all lalas, please stand in the helpful blue circle of heals. Most healers are strategic where we place them and when you run out of them we cry and murder lalas. If you die during a fight...please take the rez. We burn swiftcast to rez you so when you don't take it....we rage. Raging healers are scary...you have been warned
Once I was doing hunts late at night and triggered a boss fate. It killed me so fast I didn't even know what it was or that I was dead; I just couldn't figure out why I couldn't target the hunt marks nearby, or why my attacks weren't working 🤦♀️ Some kind soul asked me to join their party but by that point I was so confused and panicked that I opted to go to my home aetheryte. Only then did I see in that same kind soul in the chat, asking me to accept the rez. I'm on PS4 so I labored to apologize and thank them for trying but naturally they didn't respond and I'm still haunted by that incident. 😅
I wait until there's no AoE and the player has stabilized the tanks before I take the rez. Ain't no worth if the healer forgets about you after hitting that swiftcast + raise combo and acts like you never existed immediately after.
I just started playing and have no idea what I'm doing. What does blue circle of heal look like? Also what are you supposed to do when you die: lay there or go to the beginning of dungeon?
I am really tolerant to people learning to play the game and heal them without complaint. But there are 0 excuses given for not accepting a raise. Please accept the raise as soon as the box pops up. Using a swift cast and 2600 no for someone not to accept the raise for 15 seconds is aweful.
I kinda thought only I could see that message. I'm so embarrassed... sometimes i like to emote to myself to see my character's glams or whatever. people must think i'm weird.
@@frogpickle7212 You can also do this on a per-emote basis with macros and the "motion" flag. For example, a macro that says, "/cheer motion" will cause you to do the animation without putting anything in the chat log.
I've come from WoW to this, and my God the community is so welcoming, I've had someone helping me learn glamming and given me a ton of gear/dyes to glam with. Every dungeon that is havnt done I say I'm new and most of the time get told the mechanics, and no one gets mad in a wipe! I've never been more excited on an MMO
Preach! I am another WoW refugee and the community is SO much better. When I realized I didn't have to apologize for being new and not knowing fight mechanics and therefor dying my first attempt at a fight to try and lessen the verbal abuse I would receive from the rest of the party.... and instead I got nothing but explanation and support and genuine "Oop, ok, mistakes happen. We do better next time" energy. It is SO refreshing! ~A sprot bunny boy with a bow
"If you pull when some lil' sprout was watching their cutscene for the story and you ruined their experience ima come after you" As a sprout I really appreciate that xD
I missed the end boss on a few of the first dungeons because i honestly thought people would get mad i was holding them up now i just say fuck it and watch them.... the transition from WoW to FF has been a weird one.
I've only had it done once so far. It was on the boss and I'm playing healer so...that was on them lol. I was super surprised though when it ended and someone had already run into the room.
i had that happening to me on the early dungeon where lahabrea summons a scorpion. cool cutscene, when it finished the fight was over. and i was the tank.
I usually try and hand them out to people who stood out. That Dragoon kept Dragon Eye up on another player consistently? Commendation. That dude made a comment that made me smile? Commendation. That healer who saved my ass with rescue? I wish I could give you more than one commendation.
"Some people are just jump-happy" I've played video games too long not to randomly jump if i have the ability to. If there's nothing else to do while walking down a corridor, im jumping.
In older SWTOR, sometimes where you were standing was different on client/server side, jumping forced server refresh. This mainly happend to people with high latencies or packet loss (i was one of them, jumping was mandatory for me to evade aoes).
I'm a sprout WHM, just finished ARR, if someone pulls the boss while I'm watching cutscene for the first time, than it might be wipe cause I ain't skippin. :P
Telling the party that your cat attacked your controller/walked over your keyboard also works! (Yes, those both actually happened to me and yes both times nearly caused wipes)
if someone pulls the boss while a party member is still in a cutscene i will wait outside for that player to finish watching, and considering i'm a healer main... not my fault if they die for their impatience
@@pachpaints5356 my spite for those impatient pulls comes from being forced to skip a cutscene as a sprout.. i was a healer too back then and still too nice to let them die
As someone who just started playing about 2 months ago: Don't pull massively as a warrior tank on lvl ≤29 dungeons... My poor Scholar only has one healing move and one little fairy dude that embrace you when she feels like it :(
Yeah I feel that, it's why I don't play Scholar anymore and just level it up with Summoner. Scholar is fun in the first couple of dungeons cause you don't have to do a thing, 30+ dungeons is a sharp learning curve with very little practice. Astro and White Mage are still the better healers, but I'll have to go back to Scholar at some point myself, maybe after the next DLC is out since it's gonna change how the base class seems to work.
ya u have to take into consideration dungeon lvl, player, experience, and what level the character is in what class. I doo feel like everyone should keep an eye on what level groups certain classes struggle with
@@Kakachi07 not at max level lol even when you posted that SCH was top healer in terms of healing and DPS and fairly sure it still is =P love sch though, not as complex as astro but has an answer for literally everything and a near unmatched ability to top off a full group from a charybdis style 1HP attack to full HP in 1-2 GCDs
yep....I even join with another player (a lalafel) doing the havest dance for a bard playing a very harvest like medieval music .....obviously I was in Limsa
I'm a Healer... 1) When the Fate is over, and everyone runs leaving the healer with aggro on non FATE adds that are left over...not cool. Finish off the adds even if they aren't part of the FATE, I sometimes bind them for later so we can focus on the FATE, only to be left killing them alone. 2) Also, When you take a Rez, don't immediately join the fight (remember you can move as long as you don't do any action you are immortal for 5 seconds). Give the healer a few of those IMMORTAL seconds to get an extra heal on you so you won't get 1 shotted, otherwise you wasted their rez dying again that was better used on someone else. 3) When you have the stack marker on you (Golden arrows moving toward you from both sides), run in towards the group/tank, but when you stop, don't move again UNLESS some AOE mechanic appears on the floor, then of course you have to move out of it. Healers will stop on you and begin their long casts, and if you move again you break their casts trying to follow. Same logic on tanks doing large mob pulls, if you stop then stop. Don't stop for 2 full seconds and decide to go get another mob, the healer has already positioned themselves and began their casts. They will both break their cast and lose ground on you trying to catch back up. If a Boss has a mechanic that takes 20 seconds to explain, it's better to explain it before the first pull then after the first wipe.
Hah, I remember I hadn't even -seen- the stack icon until Susano'o and I kept running away with and went 'holy balls how is anyone except the tank supposed to handle that?!' Someone was kind enough to enlighten me that about how that was -supposed- to work. XD * and yeah, parties steamrolled everything to that point so I just never saw the mechanic.
That method actually makes more sense. Also, probably helps that they use macros for party placement / strats so it's quicker to find out what they need to do, as opposed to requiring a description in a PF listing.
@@sneakytrip6594 I mean, whether it's spelled out in PF or macro'd in chat, some people just ain't gonna read XD (also, PF description is efficient in that it can weed people out before they even join the party, it they read it.)
I didn't get the proper treatment so I didn't really get to enjoy the meme that is Cape Westwind. Everyone just showed up killed it and it turned into just a boring speed bump in the story.
I knew it! I had the feeling that was kind of a meme since that happened the first time I did that duty. I was laughing after we rushed it in less than a minute hahah!
@@Harkmagic cape westwint ffxiv that was sad I did stream it , but I Was unable to watch the whole catching and read it out loud for my is for followers
I had someone pull the boss while I was watching the cutscene and I got locked out of the boss room. I was the tank! I felt bad until later, then I just realized everyone sees when you are watching a cut scene and those guys were just dumb jerks.
Here's one (I know it's rare): Don't instantly rage on people for making one mistake, regardless of their experience. Sprout or mentor, everyone makes mistakes and you have no idea what their status is atm in regards to IRL stuff or just having forgotten mechanics because it's been so long.
Yh this is a good one, I have pernicious anaemia, which affects my concentration, its rare it’ll effect how I play but when tanking if I accidentally run I’ve probably knocked autorun, I have long fingers so keyboards are cramped for me, and I knock the wrong key occasionally when my brain isn’t 100% same when I use stun instead of an aoe lol
One of my favorite screenshots is Female Elezen me standing in the middle of my lovely three Lalafell dungeon children. I would die for them in a heartbeat.
I have many lala friends. As a lala myself I will purposely que with 2 other lala in hopes the rando is someone tall so I can call them mom/dad the whole dungeon. Best one so far was a cat boy who ended up in aurum veil with us. He was a great sport
I do remember being Miqo'te in a dungeon with three Lala newbies. I really felt like a kindergarten teacher, talking them through the dungeon (it was TamTara Deepcroft). It was fun, though, and they were great players. :)
Thank you for the cutscene thing. As a sprout I HATE feeling constantly rushed in dungeons. I always watch cutscenes and I'm not going to run by and ignore a chest in a corner because you can't be arsed to stop for two seconds. I did as many duties as possible with the NPCs so I could actually, yanno, experience the game. Once I was just in a random duty finder dungeon and I needed a few seconds to stop because my cat was bothering me, but even though I asked in chat for a minute nobody waited and I got left behind. Now I am level 65 and done all the ARR content I always wait for people who are lagging behind no matter what the reason.
Thanks. As a new player i found these tremendously helpful. I also feel less guilty about watching the cutscenes and don't feel the need to apologize for keeping other people waiting.
Most important one there is: If you’re new to a fight and all of your teammates are standing in one place: you stand there too. IGNORE how much dmg your next attack will do, or how much healing will get done, just drop everything and RUN to be where you need to be. Living > everything else
Honestly you can survive a lot of content blind just by being aware of where your party is. If you see a lot of ranged/healers preemptive move to one spot (never trust melee, they'll almost always greed uptime) it's a safe bet you probably wanna be there.
I've been doing this for all of the harder raids/trials and it always works. Before the fight I always look at what other dps players are doing, kind of like I'm performing a school dance without practicing lmao
We had 5/8 people down in Yotsuyu's fight when I did it the first time and it felt so clutch to get LB3 off as a healer and get everyone back, with only 20% HP left to go, but sadly people all went down again anyway cause still most of the party hadn't figured out how to dodge her fans. u_u
I've been having Chrysalis come up as my daily trial roulette nearly every day for the last couple of weeks as new sprouts are filtering through. I've had to explain what a limit break was and when the DPS should use it on the tear so many times, only to have them fail to do it and need to WHM LB3 to bring everyone back to finish out the fight.
I had a clutch LB3 on Alexander Prime go off after the intermission got messed up and only half the raid was alive. We managed to beat it after that, making it feel extra powerful.
Here's one - if your tank is brand new, and you are a healer....please don't run ahead and start pulling for the tank. If they're going slow, it's because they are brand new and don't want to be the reason the entiry party wipes. Source: me, crying as my healer runs ahead in The Wanderer's Palace while I try and fail to catch up
This is right. Most tanks know, what they can handle and there is everytime a reason, why the don't do bigpulls. Especially WHMs have to much trust in theier "Holy+Benediction Rotation".
Yeah, I actually have a macro (two, actually) for when I tank. 1 - I am a relatively new tank 2 - I have not done this dungeon before or frequently enough to go crazy with it That's been great and everyone DOES say, "No problem, take your time". :-)
As far as I'm concerned, the tank sets the pace. I've let the satellite puller get to low health before pulling agro off before. For some reason they get pissy after that.
Doesn't matter if the tank's new. As the healer, and especially as the DPS, it is not your responsibility to know what the tank "can" or "can't" handle. All it does is screw up the rhythm of the pulls and make the whole run even slower. Source: a vet player playing on a new alt character, knowing I couldn't pull wall-to-wall in Tam-Tara because said alt had exactly one defensive cooldown available and our DPS players had limited AoE skills, and having to deal with a healer with this particular failing.
Even though I'm not a new player, been playing since 2013, I am new to tanking and I was running Dohn Mheg last year, I pulled one pack at a time because I was still levelling up my pala and could really only handle one pack at a time. The healer then went and pulled the other pack (mentor btw), then as I expected...we died, I called him an idiot and explained why I was pulling one pack at a time. I got no response, he continued to pull other packs, I got sick of it and left the dungeon. He actually reported me for abuse.
When you get Cape Westwind for trial roulette, you must either: A. Immediately say gg before it's even pulled B. If there is a sprout, hype up super difficult mechanics that don't exist
I do this every single time. My favorite was when I told a sprout Tank to use LB3 at the beginning and they were so confused when we killed the dude in like 2 seconds XD
I have a set of waymarkers and usually end up calling SW - W float as soon as we load in. That usually gets people ready to meme while the sprout is watching the cutscene. I did have it backfire once were the sprout was just terrified and apologized for being new before even starting to cast. I felt so bad for them that I stayed until they were done with the cutscene to explain the meme and told them they did great.
this happened my first time on that fight. my sister said she wanted to do it with me and started to hype how hard it was. Scared me sooo much, and the fight started and i targeted him and he died.
Oh no, not Westwind. anything but westwind. I'd rather do an ultimate solo. We're doomed. We're gonna be at this for hours. Why'd it have to be westwind? (30 secs later, com the sprout and leave while they're confused on it not being that hard at all.)
Yea, don't. I skipped a lot when I started for this reason and missed some content, but people are pretty chill about it these days. They can always dick around with their inventory or something. If you want to watch it, do so, the majority of people will be cool about it.
here's one: as a healer, don't be petty and refuse to heal your tank when they fuck up, especially if you're running a low-level duty. that serves no purpose other than making your tank feel bad and getting the party killed lol
@@Corrodias yeah, one-up that tank by showing him how a true healer handles things. Keep everyone alive and throw some damage in there for good measure. When I tank and I know I screwed up but, in the end I didn't die, that healer is def getting a comm.
Flip side of this; If your healer notices you aren't using cool downs, or aren't using them until you are very low hp, or don't understand how reprisal and arms length work, listen (as long as they are offering respectful advice) instead of saying not using cool downs is your "play style." I still heal these tanks because I want to finish the dungeon, but they are blacklisted immediately afterwards. Having to be a heal bot in a dungeon makes the game not fun for most competent healers, especially considering a tank can use cool downs effectively without losing anything at all. But a healer loses so much by having to do nothing but heal bot. This game is not wow and it shouldn't be played like it is. There's also this belief that healers are either damage healers or heal only healers and that is simply not true. Competent healers can do both and they lose nothing as long as they follow their abcs (always be casting) and keep their mana regen abilities on cool down.
@@VivieneValkyrie As a healer main, though its Astro and they regen mana different, ie use card get mp, I save my lucid dreaming for emergencies a lot more. Though I pop cards like they are air
This. Gods. I don't always have the best connection and one time, I lost connection in trial roulette and if my sister hadn't been there to be like, "His internet dropped and he's already on his way back in, please don't kick him" I would have come back to having lost my dps in need bonus. DX
it should be an unwritten rule that you should understand that not everyone standing in aoes is doing it on purpose. When my lag gets bad enough sometimes the aoes wont even show up until I'm already on the floor.
Honestly if the tank is doing their job right and DPS's aren't standing in AOE's the only person that needs heals should be the Tank, just the same I cast AOE Regen on everyone all the time so I can focus on keeping the tank up.
A lot of people queue in DF after their PF is around 6/8 ppl. Dont leave after one pull, like a burger king employee, you can affort one or two wipes Unless theyre french
I learned that a few weeks ago, because I'm on the free trial, can't use the LFG screen, and thought to myself how hard level 50 stuff could be since everyone breeze through the other dungeons. Still, after 6 wipes we cleared Ramuh Extreme with a bunch of first timers. Somehow.
@@NibelungJ it's doable with people who are all willing to learn and actually look at chat for the mentors/people who watched guides to explain. Unfortunately, there's at best like a 50% chance of that being the case. Unless it's Ifrit EX and then there's a 0% chance.
Tanks, when you have melee dps in your party, do your best to keep mob packs still and facing the same direction so that your melee have no problems hitting their positional weaponskills. It's especially important for Monks as almost all of their core combo weaponskills have positional riders. Try to only move when you need to avoid an aoe!
@@Dharengo That's a good way to get your party hit with a tank cleave and make you deeply unliked/getting yelled at for killing everyone. Tanks need to stand still.
@@khdayskh1314If the Tank -wanted- to pull wall to wall they would be doing it already. For all we know the Healer is new and the Tank is keeping pulls within their wheelhouse.
@@TheElfiestElf I'm saying that under the assumption that the tank is pulling more but forgot that sprint exists and the dps/healer happened to pull hate first Ive literally seen tanks ragequit/ get offended when that happened. Many times
The Behemoth jump thing is a throwback to standing around Corthas waiting for the Behemoth FATE to pop, get on your little behemoth to summon the big one.
love this one : 02:28 also: In Alliance raids : A is left, B is middle, C is right. Some people try to "innovate" putting A in the middle just to be different?
Yeah! Isn’t A often in the middle for one of the bosses in...void ark? I think? Not that people really care about the assignments for that fight. Or maybe I’m totally wrong!
I wish I knew. By the time I did it, it was already a joke of a raid (unlike wiping city or death scaith) Although we almost wiped recently at the port ventilator because no alliance split
@@cocobunitacobuni8738 Me, I didn't understand how Alliance raids worked the first time so I genuinely just walked down the first path that I seen and went feral, thankfully I've learned, but since I was a tank, yeah I got some shit for it lol
I'm a new Final Fantasy XIV player, and on my first time through a dungeon, the tank pulled as I was watching a cutscene, and subsequently he and one of the fighters died and had to respawn because I'm the healer. He was cool about it, though. He apologized and said he didn't realize the healer (me) was watching a cutscene until he was about to die.
That happens sometimes. There us an option to skip cutscense you've already watched and if you've been playing a while you have that option on. I try to remember but once I a while I forget to make sure everyone is done with the cutscene before a pull.
I had the group pull and beat the final boss, while their healer (me) was still watching the cutscene about big bad dude in a mask... Power to them, I guess...
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Don't queue up for Coils in Duty Finder either ;)
i can not imagine how long that would take to fill...
@@TheAuron32 I can, it literally never fills and I still need to do Coil 4.
Edit,
Ok thanks people so many replies, I am lvl 80 on my WHM and now Paladin, I was just waiting on the queues because I is dumb, and now our Lady Zepla has undumbed me, I probably can solo it just did not realise because even tho I have been playing since about a month after ARR started there is still stuff I don't know.
Thanks again such a nice crowd here.
@@melvoid01 my adivice would be get a few people and unync it, i highly doubt getting 8 people to do it synced will happen.
@@melvoid01 unsync solo it bro
he took me 120mins when I did it
Unwritten rule: Don't sit in one of the 3 starting cities, discussing end game content in detail, in shout chat.
Ooooh this is a good one! Same for when new content comes out, don't use shout to talk about it when most of us haven't caught up yet.
Or avoid public chat completely, when new content comes out. That's what I do.
i actually wish this game had a bettet chat function for people to be able to talk to each other... only good chat in thios game is novice network
@@ChAiNsAwBuTcHeR linkshells?? Maybe? 😅
Same in alliance raids... Like most people in Crystal tower are not there yet.
Unwritten rule: If you're going to be doing weird stuff, there's a time and a place for it, and it's called Limsa Lominsa Aetheryte Plaza, and the time is always
XD
Or the Quicksands if you're on Crystal: Balmung/Mateus
Rip sprout who really felt they wanted to start as a marauder or archanist and just read the chat.
I've literally been wondering why so many people gather in Limsa...
i was in limsa yesterday and two people were role-playing smut in the "say" chat, so yes, limsa is a freakin weird place XD
3:37 a small correction: If you're in a raid and see someone jumping up and down, they're either showing you the safe spot where you should be, or they are a Dragoon. If they're jumping off a cliff, they're definitely a Dragoon.
Dragoon main here, the boss can't hit you if you jump off the cliff, therefore it is technically a safe zone.
Dont pull everything in a dungeon then get mad at the new healer for letting you die
This!! Especially during Auron Vale!
I can make this better.... JUST DON'T PULL EVERYTHING IN THE DUNGEON. Even if there is an experienced Healer.
I just started this game and I was in the ice dragon dungeons (idk the name) and the tank pulled so many enemies I was spamming cure 2 and he still died but he said sorry and was a good tank after that 1 incident
@Algernon Papadopoulos If the tank is using their CDs correctly then they definitely should be able to.
love it when a sprout tank who watched some guides does wall to wall pulls but saves all his CD's for the next boss while i play the healer-piano and try to save him
Don't assume everyone with a sprout icon is a veteran playing an alt and that they know all the unspoken rules! If you see a sprout, assume they are new. But also, if you're a sprout, be aware some people will not assume sprout = new because all new characters get sprout icons even if the account is not new.
Replying to add that the VAST majority of people levelling alts know how to turn off the sprout icon! (And if you don't, it's '/nastatus off' :3)
Also, people who are returners and have yet to reach current content can also be sprouts if it takes them too long to do so. The little crown will fall off their sprout.
I started playing two weeks ago, i already have 6 jobs at lvl 80 (thanks covid) and still have a sprout, people don't even take me seriously when i try to advise them 😭😂
@@vetackstudios2778 oh no, it sounds so sad when you say it that way. :(
If you join a group on Party Finder and someone explains to you the mechanic after you failed it 5 times in a row, dont pretend to know how it's done. Just read the instrucctions your teammates are giving.
Good advice. On my very first ifrit run I didn't understand it was important to kill the nail quickly. We wiped, my party explained to me, and we got it the second time.
Unwritten Rule: When doing raids where the three parties are required in different areas that lock off, wait until people are in the right places. I had this issue in the first crystal tower raid. Group A just charged ahead when C where lagging behind a bit. The area got locked, and the teleport in function threw them into the same area as the A group. That was a wipe and a half. xD
If someone helps you complete a difficult quest objective, it's polite to stay and assist them in return.
Also, if someone stops to help you while you're dying, that's not an excuse to run away and leave your problems with them. Stop and help them who are helping you.
It's a common rule to always do a respectful emote in those cases. Same when you're doing a fate with another person
Thank you for this! I wish more people would watch your video and think about other players. I did the final battles in realm reborn this morning and got left in the dungeon three times. I was so lost I just had to wait for the message to pop up asking if I wanted to join the fight. One person stayed with me and I thought that was lovely. I do have to say the community is still better than World of Warcraft!
Unwritten rule: do not explain the second boss of Bardam's Mettle.
Evil, but like 😅
"This is the idiot test of ffxiv. You've seen this crap earlier somewhere. And you'll see it a lot more. If you get past this, you can make it past Stormblood"
How I explain it everytime there's a new guy.
Me, an Lvl. 78 BLM sprout: Wait, people actually think they need to explain the Boss?
When I did that boss for the first time, I was in a group of all sprouts. It was a struggle and honestly one of the most fun experiences I had in FFXIV.
FFXIV Mechanics: The Boss
5:13 While this has certainly been a trend that's happened to me as a Lala main, I more often find myself being instead adopted by Hrothgar players. I got no complaints, but I'm just confused as to how it keeps happening. Some really like my glams, others just want to talk, one or two maybe just end up having that, "This is a smol and I must protecc," instinct flare up and boom. New Hroth friend.
Funnily enough, it's the other way around for me. More often than not I just randomly sit on some place with my legs crossed, I blink and a random lala pops up from between my legs.
I don't know where they came from, I don't know what they want, I don't know why they chose me. All I know is that I can no longer move until they leave. It's like having a pet sleeping on your legs.
That’s so cute. I love that!
-assuming it’s not annoying to you 😆 I could see that perspective too.
@@Eelanos 😂 amazing analogy
@@Eelanos and OP omg I love this, I'm cracking up.
@@Eelanos Nah, I wouldn't do that to a random Hroth sitting around. The most I've ever done was sneak some /pets and then dash. Admittedly, those times where I get caught are the only times where I know the reason why the friendship cometh.
Please oh my god, it sucks as a healer when the tank just runs and runs and I’m still 30 seconds away from sprint… and then they die because they didn’t let me catch up
“It’s iron will now”
It’s still shield oath in our hearts T^T
"If someone is jumping they're signaling that it's a safe spot"
Dragoons are a living breathing safe spot
I play with my partner who happens to be Dragoon, best Class in my opinion. Always take him to hard dungeons, keeps me safe while I make everything burn.
HEY ! How rude to assume that ! As a DRG Main i have to say : Damn, dont call us out like that. We are jumpy bois q.q
A B J= always be jumpin
me, a dragoon main: sweating
@@GrandadmiralSeewolf We are jumpy bois!
When you get rezzed, dont do anything until the healer has a chance to heal you. You get brief invincibility after a rez until you perform an action.
I didn't know this for soo long.
Good advice
If you see someone about to die while they solo a fate...please take a minute and help them out.
If you're a healer, especially a shield healer, you can toss a shield or heal on them without even having to sync your level. Super useful for lvl 80s walking through ARR areas.
@@JBRam2002 I actually did this, while doing some darknight stuff I saw some low levels having trouble with a fate so I swap to astro and healed them to max with a shield
@@argisus1279 you made that group feel immortal for all time
I do this all the time. Same with if I see a sprout in a fight and their HP is very low.
I'm not a fan of Bozja, but I do like how nice people are there in getting to someone who needs a rez.
Always do if I spot a solo player.
"If you notice a party member is watching a cutscene, you better wait."
*Slams* *table*
THANK YOU!
Absolutely agree.
I can only wish that more people allow others to watch the boss movies. This was a sore-spot/paranoia for me, because it happened multiple times while I was DPS and was in my first few months of playing. I'm sure many have queued for daily roulettes, but there ARE new players, even now, and when they come out of the video to see everyone else already "in", I guarantee they'll start skipping the scenes and some are actually fun to watch (for some people, at least). :(
(This is also part of why I just go with the Trust team, for the most part, now)
@@chrismurphy4952 Me! I’m a new player and was on discord with my healer who is my mentor and we had two people from duty finder. I was in my cut scene and I heard him yelling and keys tapping so I asked what’s up...he said “they pulled the party while you’re in the cut scene” I immediately jumped out and haven’t watched watched a cut since
@@Pick3WinningTicket - Yeah, honestly it would be nice if they could add in a mechanic where you could have 1 or 2 people in a group join you and then fill it out with a Trust NPC. Then, like in your case, you could have your friend AND the cutscenes.
@@Pick3WinningTicket I'm the healer who does not give a single fuck if my team goes in while I'm in a cutscene. If you want to walk back from spawn because you could not wait a few seconds then thats on you.
@@stereotypicalweaboo I love this line of thinking. That's a power move and I'm here for it.
*Unwritten Rule:* As a Healer, 'Rescue' is used to save randoms from death and to send your closest friends to the shadow realm.
Please! Anything but the shadow realm!
As a healer, never use rescue EXCEPT to troll your friends.
Seriously, I've never seen it used well in duty finder, most people will take it as disrespect, it doesn't help people learn, and if it's a BLM you could be screwing up everything they're trying to do.
@@thevoxdeus ive used it several times in crystal tower raid whenever i see someone struggling to catch up to the pads. usually melee players. you can definitely use it in PUG groups.
i agree that you shouldnt rescue BLM though, most of the time theyre already aware of their imminent demise
I did this to my buddy and he freaked out not knowing what was going on
As a tank, I can confirm Shirk is used for the same purpose
Yeah the "let people finish cutscenes" thing was big for me. I was finishing up the ARR story and the final dungeon had a pretty massive cutscene, and when I finished it I learned that the rest of the team had aggro'd nearby enemies, brought them to my location, and then got me killed. Kinda weird that people are grinding story mission dungeons but expecting new people to skip the cutscene and "watch it on RUclips after the dungeon", but okay.
If they want to run without sprouts they can. They can make premade party and all. So don't worry about it. If anyone queues for random and gets a sprout he has to respect it. If he doesn't want to, it is his own problem, because he has the ability to form party other ways and make premade parties as well.
In order to get agro your character has to do something. Only way I can think of is if the tank used Shirk. BTW: That's a reportable offence.
@@RicardoSantos-oz3uj Unless he was the healer and they all wiped.
Yeah, I've had to watch the scenes on youtube after the fact, because I allowed myself to feel pressured by impatient nerds.
My brother used to have a "friend" who lost his mind I *both* watched cutscenes AND read dialogue, he ended up joining, leaving, asking my brother if I had done the instance already, and if yes wanted a new invite 😂
Rule: it is infact polite to stare if someone has a nice glamor. They worked hard to put it togather. Please appreciate it.
i always clap at people that have nice glamor..
Im too shy to look at them I run past them quite far away then inspect XD
@@Suzume175 I get this, but I'm also painfully slow at typing on my ps4 controller, so in either case, I'm still gonna be staring a while 😂
I love my character’s neck snap back when I un-target someone, it’s adorable
@@Suzume175 That's understandable although I feel like some people aren't actually staring at your glamor they might actually just be examining to see what you have on cuz they might want to work for themselves.
Looool “if you pull while some little sprout is enjoying their story cutscene...I’m gonna come after you.”
We don’t deserve you Zepla lol
When I was going through the Thousand Maws for story my group killed the boss while I was in the cutscene. I went from cutscene, to victory scene without a break. Though I think that one yanks the first couple people into the boss room.
Started in mid Heavensward, first normal raid i did was Coils, had the same group for all of the tiers and they were adamant about letting me take my time and watch the cutscenes....told me to take as many screenshots as i wanted to, I’ll never forget that group!
I started about 2 and half weeks ago and in one of the low level dungeons on the last boss, the one with a spider thing where an npc talks to you for a very long time. They killed the boss AND left before I was done lol. I was like.. well at least they didnt boot me from the group for just standing around watching movies. /shrug =/
edit @Wolfgang Hype, same one as me I believe.
Too keep this simple I don't pull the last boss of any dungeon until all four people are in the arena. The cutscene hard stops you well before crossing the purple line.
I once got killed by a boss while watching the Cutscene. However that happened.
Unwritten rule: Dragoons must always dragon sight each other, it's the dragoonbro rule. An eye for an eye.
Yeah, an if one Side of the Beam doesn't move up and down, then everybody knows, there is another dead DRG. :D
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Bro code 0n another lv
na mine always goes on a healer cause my macro targets the closest person to me and they always seem to be healers LOL
Also, if you don't do some serious content like current savage or extreme, and a dancer picked you (a drg) as their dance partner... give them the first eye
"If you notice a party member is watching a cutscene, you better wait."
As a healer, I have let tanks die because they just run in while someone was watching a cutscene...and no, I'm not sorry, pay attention to your group, if you don't have the courtesy to wait, then you don't need heals rofl.
I'm so glad this is a thing because i am new to the game and I didn't know this at the time but in my very first dungeon while I and the rest of the party were watching a cutscene and getting loot, the tank ran off and pulled multiple mobs. And I typed in chat after he died "this is what happens when you don't wait" as the mobs bore down and killed the rest of us
I also quick cast resurrected him just before I died so that he could die all over again after the rest of us went back to the beginning
I have macro'd "Don't skip, just let me die!" For if I screw up as tank. It's easy to mess up and forget this is someone else's first time 30 times into a dungeon but that doesn't mean they should suffer. That's on me.
@@sendicard That is really cool and you deserve a lot of respect for that. I've had it happen quite a few times, but most of them have been that same kind of situation, only a couple have been from someone just being a jerk, and honestly, as someone who in a lot of mmos with my best friend, would rather run in myself to take the aggro so she could live (in a bad situation where we knew death was coming lol) it killed me all those times standing outside the lockout and not healing rofl.
As a sprout healer I was watching a cutscene and the rest of the group did not want to wait. I came out of the cutscene to a warp prompt, a dead tank, a dead dps, and the bard almost dead. Honestly they didn't deserve me fixing that.
If you get Castrum as your MSQ roulette you have to spell Cid's name with the waymarks while waiting for him.
Or dicbag as I've often seen
It also doubles as fun practice for setting waymarks efficiently! Make a game out of spelling cid (or as mentioned, dicbag) before he blows up the door!
I do it every time XD shame that I don't have the cheer emotes though
oh geez I just did that for the first time and thought they ment dic
@@umbrossageos3793 hell yeah, i ALWAYS type DIC BAG
"Don't run around like a headless chicken"
This one bears repeating
Please
Please for the love of god
Just bring the mobs to me
Let me help you
Its my job
Please
Yeah, my unspoken rule as a tank is if you attack it before I can even 'pull', I'll allow you to tank until half of your health is depleted. That or you bring it to me. Most impatient players get the idea when they realize I let them 'reap what they sow' when their health gets low and I am over in a different area 'tanking'.
@@Nahellion I let them bitches die.. let them learn their lesson while I am tanning :p
The exception is if the tank dies and they target the dps who is running away from the healer lol
Your fervent, almost teary plea resonates with my soul.
When i play my first char, i was being taught by a tank player. The first rule her taught me was " when your targetted and it is not a mechanic, run to your tank."
Sit afk in Limsa for 3 hours, and when somebody target you - target them back
so true it hurts
The first time I targeted someone who was AFK for like a week in Limsa they targeted me back. I logged out immediately... they were at the keyboard.... they are watching... aiiiieeeeeee
It genuinely creeped me out when this happened to me my first few hours of playing.
lmfao. yo, this cracks me up since i'm always just running around checking peoples outfit and gear and then they suddenly target me back.
@@AStarInAndromeda I always imagined it a way of them saying "Chu lookin' at, buddy?"
When a healer puts a bubble on the field, you stay in the bubble as long as the fight doesn't ask you to move out from it.
As a healer this is important. My bubble is put down to give the tanks and melee some extra staying power, i do this to allow me to start a dps burst, the circle is safe though and it means thats the area i want the damn fight in, dont pull it and those protected by my bubble away
everytime I place it. theres always one person who stands just outside of it
@Aquifer Aquitarius same. if they redo it after i told them i just stop healing them. im not a healing bot bitch haha
Can't see bubble with effects turned off :D
@NubityNub You can select "Show Limited" instead of "Show none" tho.
theres actually an entire list of unwritten jumping dialogue
jumping in place when you havent moved yet: hurry up, i'm impatient
jumping once, turning, and jumping again- it's that way!
jumping while moving: i'm bored
jumping in place during fightt: either 'over here is safe' of 'holy crap i just barely survived'
jumping after another person jumps, usually while idle: hi!
lol omg i have played this game lots and i can confirm this is accurate
Jumping is probably the most primitive kind of communication in multiplayer games. Even if the meaning is not always clear...
I just jump a lot because I like to think my character is just a happy gal.
This is a product of people playing with a controller right? Only just returned after beta and never noticed, this is also not a thing in other MMOs I've played.
Lol I do it and I'm on keyboard ^
"Let the sprouts watch their cutscene."
Flashback to my first Castrum Meridium and Praetorium run in early Stormblood
back in the days u could skip that cutsceens meaning u where non stop in cutsceens if it was your first time doing it :D (thats how my first runs did go)
Agreed......but also, take me back..! Lol
Legit the first time I was In there I didn’t get a single boss fight. It was cutscene->”where did everyone go?”->cutscene->repeat til end
I remembered some of the cutscenes ended prematurely because the next one was triggered 😭
My first run of those places as a sprout 🌱 tank and still a sprout didn’t go well. I barely had an idea where the groups were watching the cutscenes. Spent almost the entire dungeon being completely lost with no group around. I never got to actually learn those dungeons. Thus today, I also never bother to queue for them either. Even though it’s chaotic fun those particular dungeon, I’ve never understood anything much about them having to hurry through my cutscenes and being lost.
I have recently started playing and I'm totally new (like a few weeks now) and notoriously terrible at MMOs, but FFXIV is the first time I've ever gotten in so deep and had such a wonderful time. I'm really enjoying your content and it is helping me so much. So I just wanted to say a big thank you for this channel and the work you put into it!
Yeah I haven't played MMO's for ages. I kept trying to get into Elder Scrolls Online but I just found it boring. I like FF14 a lot more, and I actually have to stop myself from playing it rather than making myself play, as I did in ESO. I've been playing for around a week now.
I so happy to hear you enjoy the game! Knowing the amazing twists and turns ahead makes me even more excited for your journey ahead! ^.^! I hope you continue to have a fun experience with FFXIV! 💕
Till you get to the end and you have to run the same instance day after day for gear and you have to wait 6 months for the next instance you will run day after day cuz the gear you wanted day after day farming is now worthless welcome to the reality of xiv
Unwritten rule: When zoning on foot, always try to jump over the zone line.
I always try to do that, even on mounts. XD (assuming I can't fly in that area yet)
@@TheCanadianGamingPenguin one of the drawbacks of flying, no jumping the lines
@@Confuseddalek - Indeed!
In the case of Flying, I try to "cross the finish line" like it was a race (a flying race specifically), so I'll swoop downwards before the zone line. XD
Awww... but I try to limbo it!
you can jump with mounts if you turn on flying after double jumps. i like to jump from up high with mounts and then swoop up a little before hitting the ground
If you see someone in the same glamour as you, switch to the same idle pose and stand next to them.
Unspoken rule: Praetorium isn't a dungeon. It's a movie.
MSQ roulette COULD HAVE BEEN A CUTSCENE
I hate praetorium
watching grandad Cid with his skin tight shirt for half an hour made me physically ill
thanks for listening
how is that a rule
@@ahriisnotakitsune HOW IS THAT YOUR FIRST AND LAST NAME HUH? biiiiiiiiiiiiiiCH
@@anaran_ uh.... u ok??
Remember to give commendation to the drg in your party. He doin his best to keep you safe from the floor.
oh could you elaborate on that please? im a sprout and don’t know what he does, you are talking about dragoons right?
@@LilypadOW Long and short is dragoons tend to dive-bomb the floor with their lance for some of their attacks, they also tend to have challenges with positioning during AOEs due to their jumping animation locking them in place for precious seconds...which often leads to hilarity, they also have a back dash which when fighting on a floating platform with no guard rails results in even more hilarity.
This isn't to say they're a bad class, I main one right now, they just have some quirks have to be mindful of, or "you're going to have a bad time".
@@benjaminbierley2074 omg I see haha thanks I’ll look out for it
@@LilypadOW dragoon main here. You have no idea how many times that’s happened or I’ve seen it happen. It’s funny as hell though and I got my friend into FF XIV who happened to choose Lancer, it’s gonna be a fun experience for them
@@LilypadOW it's an old joke from ARR that a dragoon's rotation included dying so clearly you were a bad dragoon if you couldn't complete your rotation
As a sprout.... one thing that would be great is if I could give commendations during the cutscenes after a boss. I don't know how many times in ARR i finished a boss, there was an automatic cutscene, and then everyone was gone and I couldn't give a commendation to anyone.
there is a way to turn off the cutscenes after you already watch it. so if you are doing a dungeon that you already done, then you dont have to see the victory pose again.
@@Tonyson1469 "as a sprout" .....that feature is actually useless if it's your first time.
I always stick around for sprouts, cheering them on. :)
Yeah. Kinda dumb that you can't commend people after they leave.
As a legacy player, go watch cutscenes in the inn if you care about giving comms to ppl.
Unwritten Rule: Everyone is new to the content once, so never assume everyone knows all the mechanics at any time, especially in the first week of a new Raid or Trial.
Actually it's written when you start the content "a player has never done this, you'll receive extra reward"
Them sprout tanks make me giggle sometimes watching them constantly run around the mobs lol. Or when the ranged dps thinks they're "kiting" but they're not using bind skills and they're just running around getting hit. You can't out run that auto-attack if it's close to you, let me help you keel et! Else I'm gonna watch you struggle, then die, because I'm not chasing you.
Oh my god i had that issue with someone on the day after Seat of Sacrifice released. Mind you I don't mean the EX. This dude got so pissed off at us for not knowing what we're doing in the fight on our first time running it in the story. Was sad day
I try to take the piss out of people who are the "watch the video" type the first two weeks of a raid. Usually something super sarcastic like "How *DARE* you not watch a video for something that has been out for less than 24 hours!!!!!"
If you played through the entire game without story skipping. There isnt going to be ANY mechanic youve never seen in non EX & Savage raids.
As a new player, I appreciate this.
Hope you're enjoying your journey so far! ❤
I'm a new player as well
Same here. I just started playing last week. I am loving it so far but this game is kind of overwhelming there is so much to it. So much more than any MMO I have ever played. I have been binging on videos like this and class guides to try to not embarrass myself or annoy others.
New player comment section!!
Welcome :)
I'm a sprout and a gladiator, and I actually missed one bossfight completely because I wanted to watch the important cutscene and one guy with the guns decided he wanted to be the tank, so the rest of the team beat the boss before I finished the cutscene :| I know it was a low level dungeon and he was probably just trying to speed through it but jesus have some respect
Uh. Was this, um, the watery pirate dungeon?
The same thing happened to me! It was one of the early dungeons - I think it had a big spider or something - I was also a sprout gladiator
I had the exact same thing, i got a level up mid cutscene because of it and then after the cutscene played, it immediately played the of the boss dying.
Im pretty sure you're talking about The Jaws of Toto Rak dungeon, because its known for its infamously long cutscenes and short boss fight so no one really waits for the sprouts to finish.
It happened with me too 😅
You can watch the cutscenes at your inn room, some of the cutscenes are decades long
Me and my friend, tank and healer sprouts, were watching the cutscene before the final dungeon boss and we saw indications that the fight had started. We let them die :)
ironic how they started to fight to speed things up because they didnt want to wait for you and made the entire thing take longer due to them being impatience
Completely normal phenomenon ^^
There was one time this happened when I was in a dungeon. Another player was jumping around and accidentally pulled the boss.... the tank was the one watching a cut scene
There's really only 1 dungeon I could sort of give them a pass on idr what the name was it was the one with the photocells.. Many a time have I seen someone pull the boss because they took 1 step too close and get sucked in
lol why are the DPS always the impatient ones
You're patient enough to play a class with 20-minute queue times but you don't have 30 seconds for a damn monster cutscene *rolleyes*
"Some people are just jump happy"
DRG Main : *YES*
good one lol
DRG main here: can confirm lol
As a slightly too jump happy BLM... yes
Unspoken rule: In main scenario duty roulette, you suffer together. But be damned respectful to the nooblings.
THANK YOU!!! I've been arguing with people on reddit about how sprouts may want to learn and suffer for the fun of learning new content, and everyone's like "youre not better than 3, 7, or 23 other people in the party". I don't want advice until i ask for it, you can wipe and suffer with me >=)
@@theblackneon5396 yeah, on the fights i know mechanics of, i always ask the newer people if they want tips or whatever, if they do, ill provide, if not, i dont :)
I respect the Nooblings, they make sure you get 100 more tomes at the end.
You can just alt+tab and watch youtube or whatever. In Win10 you can just hover over the icon and watch for the cutscene to fade to black then alt+tab back in.
@@danielmantell8751 if you're on pc, i suppose...
I cannot stress enough the unspoken rule of letting the new players watch their cutscenes. The impatience that people can have with sprouts watching cutscenes is why we now have an MSQ Roulette where you can't skip the cutscenes. For those who don't know, MSQ Roulette actually did once allow cutscene skipping, but because nobody was patient with anyone, here we are. MSQ cutscenes we can't skip, and a Gaius speech that is drilled into our DNA at this point. The game has a great story, so let the sprouts experience it.
I usually got some show on to watch in between all those scenes lol.
@@iriebuddha Such devastation was not my intention!
My group like to say that one along with him 😄
Bard Performance: Don't do it by market boards.
Bard Performance: Don't stand beside the Bard, give them a circle.
Limsa is the exception
I love listening to bard performance while doing my MB browsing personally.
Unless you're playing dancer and are dancing along to the beat.
Had one guy literally sit where I was standing while playing. Thankfully the crowd that were being nice and giving me a nice semi-circle to enjoy the tunes started endlessly poking him till he left.
Bard Performance: Don't stand next to someone playing, and start playing another song at the same time.
Yes please let our lil sprouts watch their cutscenes they deserve the full story
I got left behind watching the story it was big sad :*(
The party ran off while I was watching my cutscene. I got lost and no one would even respond to requests for help to catch up with the party. So, I ended up leaving the party, and hopped in queue again. Another 30 minute wait and got into a new party. They did nothing but gripe and complain because I wanted watched the cutscenes, even though at least they didn't leave me stranded. After that I left the game. I don't need that kind of crap in a game. Its a real shame as I really enjoyed FFXIV but I won't be going back again.
had a guy aggro all the bosses while i was watching the cutscene for the first time, (mind i was the tank)... :(
@Revolutionary_Anomaly Speedrun is doing content as fast as possible
This is one reason I love healing. If a sprout has a cutscenes and the tank pulls, I just stay with the sprout. Good luck with that boss fight..
Pay attention to party chat in dungeons. Don't be the tank who ignores "Put tank stance on" spammed in chat because you forgot. Also, don't miss "BRB phone" or "BRB Door". Use Commendations. There's a challenge log entry for it. And people appreciate a "GJ"
Same goes for if you are the tank and the healer is asking you to use cooldowns or do smaller pulls. In fact just dont assume that healers are okay with big pulls unless they say so
@@baichibee Yup.. I have a DRK at 80, and currently levelling PLD, WAR and GNB at the same time.
@@BazzFreeman I am kinda omni leveling, I dont have any classes below 67, but right now am getting them all to 70. But I prefer healing to other things. DPS wanting to pull bigger than I was confortable with tanking ruined tanking for random peeps for me.
@@baichibee Can I flex? All DPS and Healers at 80, all Crafters at 80. just tanks to go for the complete set. :) Just got to 800 commendations, so just 700 to go for Mentor. I think that's the point where I turn into a complete asshat judging by the mentors I've seen in game.
@@BazzFreeman Based on how most mentors have acted to me or other sprouts, its almost like its a requirement to be an asshole to be a mentor, though I think most "mentors" are only mentors to get the extra roulette half the time, also nice flex. Im just challanging myself to only do the story if all my classes are the same level as the story. I honestly am not sure where im at for mentor status, but its not something i really want like i did in FF11
Unwritten rule: Absolutely no spoilers. No exceptions. Neither in game, in a discord server (unless the channel is flagged) and in real life. Everyone should experience the story untainted.
what if someone asks to be spoiled?
@@Evilriku13 Convince them otherwise, that's it.
Wish people still took this seriously having spoiler minions everywhere
just got the motivation to play again. rando spoils the ending of my expansion in chat. no context. wasnt part of a bigger conversation. feelings. not sure which feelings but lot of em.
I've actually never seen spoilers and I have been playing for a long time
2:56 I started FFXIV this week, and I was in a dungeon (the manor thing ? somewhere around lv30) and I was watching cinematic and when I got control of my character, I saw that the tank had started the boss, realised I wasn't there, and written a good 10 lines of apology in the chat haha
Coming from other games (such as Lol), it's very nice to see a community that actually understands that new players want to watch cinematics and stuff
I was stuck in the cutscene for the bug boss when you rescue the sylph grandma and they beat the entire boss without me before the cutscene was done.
@@BulborbStare this literally happened to me today. No one said a word of apology or anything, I was really bummed.
@@KAR1492 Same here
@@BulborbStare I remember a similar thing happening without a Tank since they were watching the cutscene.
We still beat it, but the fight was close. Made me feel bad we didn't wait on them though.
Me too! When I started playing I had a similar experience with a nice tank apologizing for not waiting. I was so shocked, coming from WoW where people are a lot more likely to be cold and irritated.
If you own the manderville and someone is performing it, you join.
if someone is doing a special dance emote, you most join them with the same emote. Try to time them together.
Dawg the manderville dancers have been taking over the Ul’Dah Aetheryte entrance lately!
@@GoldenMushroom64 The Midgardsormr Ul'dah aetheryte, right?
@@GoldenMushroom64 Make Uldah, Manderville
@@TigerheartFire that’s the one. It’s hilarious
If someone lali ho’s at you and you have lali ho you MUST lali ho back.
what if you're a sprout in before ShB? Do you bow? Greeting?
@@lalauniversalis9999 bowing, waving, or honestly any happy emote is accepted
If you don't Lali-ho back, you are gunna get La-HEE'd.
@@lalauniversalis9999 When you play Lala, if in doubt:
/joy
\o/
I made a greet macro specifically for saying hi and it uses o/ and the lali-ho emote and for the past week no one has lali-ho'd back, even in fate grinds. It breaks my heart
Two from a newbie sprout:
For the love of all lalas, please stand in the helpful blue circle of heals. Most healers are strategic where we place them and when you run out of them we cry and murder lalas.
If you die during a fight...please take the rez. We burn swiftcast to rez you so when you don't take it....we rage. Raging healers are scary...you have been warned
Once I was doing hunts late at night and triggered a boss fate. It killed me so fast I didn't even know what it was or that I was dead; I just couldn't figure out why I couldn't target the hunt marks nearby, or why my attacks weren't working 🤦♀️
Some kind soul asked me to join their party but by that point I was so confused and panicked that I opted to go to my home aetheryte. Only then did I see in that same kind soul in the chat, asking me to accept the rez.
I'm on PS4 so I labored to apologize and thank them for trying but naturally they didn't respond and I'm still haunted by that incident. 😅
I wait until there's no AoE and the player has stabilized the tanks before I take the rez.
Ain't no worth if the healer forgets about you after hitting that swiftcast + raise combo and acts like you never existed immediately after.
Lalafell are dwarves after shaving beard?
I just started playing and have no idea what I'm doing. What does blue circle of heal look like? Also what are you supposed to do when you die: lay there or go to the beginning of dungeon?
I am really tolerant to people learning to play the game and heal them without complaint. But there are 0 excuses given for not accepting a raise. Please accept the raise as soon as the box pops up. Using a swift cast and 2600 no for someone not to accept the raise for 15 seconds is aweful.
If you get a cool mount or outfit, go to the most populated part and stay still for hours to be admired by the commoners.
As well as a new weapon or pose emote*
YES. I actually screenshot people who do this
Oh gosh I never knew that emotes spammed in chat. People are probably tired of me randomly dancing in public
You CAN click a box at the bottom of the emote window to make them not appear in chat if you want!
Hopefully many people will now turn that off, I confess I did not know either.
I kinda thought only I could see that message. I'm so embarrassed... sometimes i like to emote to myself to see my character's glams or whatever. people must think i'm weird.
Yeah I learned the hard way. I went to jail for it and got a slap on the wrist. My emotes are off unless I need them for something lol
@@frogpickle7212 You can also do this on a per-emote basis with macros and the "motion" flag. For example, a macro that says, "/cheer motion" will cause you to do the animation without putting anything in the chat log.
I've come from WoW to this, and my God the community is so welcoming, I've had someone helping me learn glamming and given me a ton of gear/dyes to glam with.
Every dungeon that is havnt done I say I'm new and most of the time get told the mechanics, and no one gets mad in a wipe! I've never been more excited on an MMO
Where did you meet the people to help you haha I’m new and solo
@@jwilsnach I was just hanging out in gridania!
Another wow player dipping my toes into this game. Wish me luck!
Preach! I am another WoW refugee and the community is SO much better. When I realized I didn't have to apologize for being new and not knowing fight mechanics and therefor dying my first attempt at a fight to try and lessen the verbal abuse I would receive from the rest of the party.... and instead I got nothing but explanation and support and genuine "Oop, ok, mistakes happen. We do better next time" energy. It is SO refreshing! ~A sprot bunny boy with a bow
"If you pull when some lil' sprout was watching their cutscene for the story and you ruined their experience ima come after you"
As a sprout I really appreciate that xD
its easier when your a tank just sit back watch that cutscene and if they die prehaps they should of thought about that before
I missed the end boss on a few of the first dungeons because i honestly thought people would get mad i was holding them up now i just say fuck it and watch them.... the transition from WoW to FF has been a weird one.
I've only had it done once so far. It was on the boss and I'm playing healer so...that was on them lol. I was super surprised though when it ended and someone had already run into the room.
i had that happening to me on the early dungeon where lahabrea summons a scorpion. cool cutscene, when it finished the fight was over.
and i was the tank.
@@BioMatic2 that one is common sometimes people are just too excited if you walk far enough that boss sucks you in so I can't exactly blame them
S Rank hunts: Don't pull it if you didn't spawn it. And give people time to get there.
A yes that is a golden rule in all S hunts
"Tuesday's rank A runs are fast.
Don't complain if you can't keep up"
I've learn this the hard way.
Related: When you happen to spot a B-Rank in the open world, take a few seconds to shout out a position report: Someone's probably looking for it.
Only fisher main can bull the mob
Please come to Primal DC since we have notorious early pullers
3:37 If you see Lala jumping up and down at certain spot don't be fooled, it's not a safe spot. They just wanna be at everyone's level for a moment.
Nah. Us Lalas are flexing our superior strength given our potato bodies :p
Always give a commendation, make someone feel good about themselves.
Oh I can think of many runs where no one deserved one...
The first job I played is dragoon so now everytime I see a dragoon I give them the commendation
I usually try and hand them out to people who stood out. That Dragoon kept Dragon Eye up on another player consistently? Commendation. That dude made a comment that made me smile? Commendation. That healer who saved my ass with rescue? I wish I could give you more than one commendation.
@@sleepysera i do give them to sprouts that kept dying as a "it's Ok" sign ^^
I often give them to DPS players, tanks and healers have them so easily even when they were really bad, it's justice to give them to good DPS
Another unwritten rule: You can't enter The Rak'tika Greatwood without singing lahee!
This tbh
@@MIGAS32000 1000% lahee
LAHEE!
LahEE We don't have Ebola!
Lehee we now have Corona
"Some people are just jump-happy" I've played video games too long not to randomly jump if i have the ability to. If there's nothing else to do while walking down a corridor, im jumping.
Anyone who ever played Morrowind or Oblivion cannot stop jumping whenever they're playing something that gives them the option. :P
@@dosbilliam that's so true 😂
Loved valheim for this. It increases your jumping skills 😂
In older SWTOR, sometimes where you were standing was different on client/server side, jumping forced server refresh. This mainly happend to people with high latencies or packet loss (i was one of them, jumping was mandatory for me to evade aoes).
Fact: jumping increases your movement speed by 0.0000001%. WORTH!
2:52 "Damnit Jim I am doctor not a triathelete" Holy hell that got me REAL good bahaha
I'm a sprout WHM, just finished ARR, if someone pulls the boss while I'm watching cutscene for the first time, than it might be wipe cause I ain't skippin. :P
Good for you! Not all cutscenes are available in the inn. Also, it’s great to watch them in the moment.
If they pull while the healer is watching a cutscene they deserve to wipe
as a lala sprout whm, potato stands above the rest
@@miatmiatmiat6991 as a fellow lala, i totally agree with you. Potato Supremacy!
Do eeeet! You earned that cutscene!!
If you die to a mechanic you can just say "server tick" and you are absolved of any guilt.
How often i that Read haha
Can confirm
"My brother was playing."
Telling the party that your cat attacked your controller/walked over your keyboard also works! (Yes, those both actually happened to me and yes both times nearly caused wipes)
"I'm sorry, I know I suck"
if someone pulls the boss while a party member is still in a cutscene i will wait outside for that player to finish watching, and considering i'm a healer main... not my fault if they die for their impatience
I'm the new baby sprout healer people pull thru the cutscenes on. Joke is doubly on them.
I have let many a tank die for impatience.
@@pachpaints5356 my spite for those impatient pulls comes from being forced to skip a cutscene as a sprout.. i was a healer too back then and still too nice to let them die
lol
Letting them die is the only way to teach them.
As someone who just started playing about 2 months ago:
Don't pull massively as a warrior tank on lvl ≤29 dungeons... My poor Scholar only has one healing move and one little fairy dude that embrace you when she feels like it :(
Yeah I feel that, it's why I don't play Scholar anymore and just level it up with Summoner. Scholar is fun in the first couple of dungeons cause you don't have to do a thing, 30+ dungeons is a sharp learning curve with very little practice. Astro and White Mage are still the better healers, but I'll have to go back to Scholar at some point myself, maybe after the next DLC is out since it's gonna change how the base class seems to work.
Running the raid series with a friend who is a scholar this weekend he said “here, you get the baby sitter” and gave me the fairy 😂
ya u have to take into consideration dungeon lvl, player, experience, and what level the character is in what class. I doo feel like everyone should keep an eye on what level groups certain classes struggle with
@@Kakachi07 not at max level lol even when you posted that SCH was top healer in terms of healing and DPS and fairly sure it still is =P love sch though, not as complex as astro but has an answer for literally everything and a near unmatched ability to top off a full group from a charybdis style 1HP attack to full HP in 1-2 GCDs
Sage also have issues around that level if tanks wanna mass pull. Probably worse since you can't both trigger kardia and cast healing until level 90.
When running the Heroes Gauntlet dungeon, you must pet the Amaro. He's a good boy.
I pat him every time. It is MANDATORY and as a DPS main I am willing to lose uptime for it lol.
I have /toast on a hotbar so I can toast him as I run. This is the way.
@@officialgritty4740 uptime on trash pulls??
Hugging Giott is more important there.
@@Darksin757Production DPS brain. Must get big number.
If a Bard is playing music. No matter what they play you clap or cheer at the end.
It matters not their skill, you clap/cheer. No. Exceptions.
yep....I even join with another player (a lalafel) doing the havest dance for a bard playing a very harvest like medieval music
.....obviously I was in Limsa
@@dustindiaz9493 Of course it was in Limsa.
Also dont play over a bard who is playing or dog whistle....ask politely and at the end of their song they will reply....maybe....only if u clap owo
@@skyknight1748 There's a dog whistle emote?
I'm a Healer...
1) When the Fate is over, and everyone runs leaving the healer with aggro on non FATE adds that are left over...not cool. Finish off the adds even if they aren't part of the FATE, I sometimes bind them for later so we can focus on the FATE, only to be left killing them alone.
2) Also, When you take a Rez, don't immediately join the fight (remember you can move as long as you don't do any action you are immortal for 5 seconds). Give the healer a few of those IMMORTAL seconds to get an extra heal on you so you won't get 1 shotted, otherwise you wasted their rez dying again that was better used on someone else.
3) When you have the stack marker on you (Golden arrows moving toward you from both sides), run in towards the group/tank, but when you stop, don't move again UNLESS some AOE mechanic appears on the floor, then of course you have to move out of it. Healers will stop on you and begin their long casts, and if you move again you break their casts trying to follow. Same logic on tanks doing large mob pulls, if you stop then stop. Don't stop for 2 full seconds and decide to go get another mob, the healer has already positioned themselves and began their casts. They will both break their cast and lose ground on you trying to catch back up.
If a Boss has a mechanic that takes 20 seconds to explain, it's better to explain it before the first pull then after the first wipe.
Hah, I remember I hadn't even -seen- the stack icon until Susano'o and I kept running away with and went 'holy balls how is anyone except the tank supposed to handle that?!'
Someone was kind enough to enlighten me that about how that was -supposed- to work. XD
* and yeah, parties steamrolled everything to that point so I just never saw the mechanic.
Thank you this is super helpful!
If a healer randomly heals in a town, and you are on a healer, they are trying to heal fight you, and you must accept the challenge
What even is a heal fight?
@@Belvayne biggest heal crit wins
This one YES! Heal fight every healer
Healer fights are legendary, tho I had heard it was whoever quits first, like a staring contest, but that was from a different mmo
This is what lead to the calamity 🤣 healers just trying to out heal eachother
fun fact: the jp community use the party finder to learn a fight, and the df to clear/farm a fight.
Love that!
That method actually makes more sense.
Also, probably helps that they use macros for party placement / strats so it's quicker to find out what they need to do, as opposed to requiring a description in a PF listing.
@@sneakytrip6594 I mean, whether it's spelled out in PF or macro'd in chat, some people just ain't gonna read XD
(also, PF description is efficient in that it can weed people out before they even join the party, it they read it.)
NA needs to do this tbh
That's true for extreme and unreal, but there still a lot of party for savages in pf, just because you can set up minimum ilvl
Rule: You must exaggerate the mechanics of cape westwind to cause new players to panic if there are new players in the party.
i did this to 2 IRL friends with whom i was also in VC with. their reaction was priceless ^^
I didn't get the proper treatment so I didn't really get to enjoy the meme that is Cape Westwind. Everyone just showed up killed it and it turned into just a boring speed bump in the story.
I knew it! I had the feeling that was kind of a meme since that happened the first time I did that duty.
I was laughing after we rushed it in less than a minute hahah!
I say WORLD FIRST after every clear
@@Harkmagic cape westwint ffxiv that was sad I did stream it , but I Was unable to watch the whole catching and read it out loud for my is for followers
I had someone pull the boss while I was watching the cutscene and I got locked out of the boss room. I was the tank! I felt bad until later, then I just realized everyone sees when you are watching a cut scene and those guys were just dumb jerks.
there's a new thing now that allows you to automatically teleport into boss room after 15 seconds
@@zanido9073 that was around when they posted that, idk what they were smoking lol has been around for years
Here's one (I know it's rare): Don't instantly rage on people for making one mistake, regardless of their experience. Sprout or mentor, everyone makes mistakes and you have no idea what their status is atm in regards to IRL stuff or just having forgotten mechanics because it's been so long.
Yh this is a good one, I have pernicious anaemia, which affects my concentration, its rare it’ll effect how I play but when tanking if I accidentally run I’ve probably knocked autorun, I have long fingers so keyboards are cramped for me, and I knock the wrong key occasionally when my brain isn’t 100% same when I use stun instead of an aoe lol
When you do a Dungeon as a Mentor you last did 8 years ago but dont remember mecanics, then get instant rage :c
THIS! I have panic attacks when I f up. Last thing I need is someone harping on me when I miss a mechanic haha.
if I get rage for stuff I know isn't justified, I see it as not my problem.
Yea I never Tanked before thank god someone helped me out on my first dungeon yesterday.
If you are the only non-Lalafell player in a dungeon/alliance you ARE legally the babysitter and must take responsibility for our actions.
One of my favorite screenshots is Female Elezen me standing in the middle of my lovely three Lalafell dungeon children. I would die for them in a heartbeat.
I had this happen once as a max height female Roegadyn. I felt like a kindergarten teacher.
I have many lala friends. As a lala myself I will purposely que with 2 other lala in hopes the rando is someone tall so I can call them mom/dad the whole dungeon. Best one so far was a cat boy who ended up in aurum veil with us. He was a great sport
Consume the tall one
I do remember being Miqo'te in a dungeon with three Lala newbies. I really felt like a kindergarten teacher, talking them through the dungeon (it was TamTara Deepcroft). It was fun, though, and they were great players. :)
If you encounter a fellow Paladin in the wild and they do wings, you must respond with wings. This is the way. It is the Paladin’s code.
Also known as the Paladin Handshake, yes!
Every time! :D
Duly noted!
This is the way
Wings????!!
Thank you for the cutscene thing. As a sprout I HATE feeling constantly rushed in dungeons. I always watch cutscenes and I'm not going to run by and ignore a chest in a corner because you can't be arsed to stop for two seconds. I did as many duties as possible with the NPCs so I could actually, yanno, experience the game. Once I was just in a random duty finder dungeon and I needed a few seconds to stop because my cat was bothering me, but even though I asked in chat for a minute nobody waited and I got left behind. Now I am level 65 and done all the ARR content I always wait for people who are lagging behind no matter what the reason.
Unwritten Rule: When you are in Coerthas, you must either have a heavy coat on, or nothing at all. No exceptions.
I wore a hooded cloak I hope that suffices. Coerthas was my favourite part of Realm Reborn. So nostalgic
I wore a heavy top and no pants
@@veterusv.4980 That's the only acceptable outfit choice
Lol! I'm new and I don't have a heavy coat so I always feel so weird and awkward there! This comment confirms my feels.
Hard facts. Coerthas hits different in the light steel harness/subligar.
Thanks. As a new player i found these tremendously helpful. I also feel less guilty about watching the cutscenes and don't feel the need to apologize for keeping other people waiting.
I always apologize, even knowing it's not necessary.
Most important one there is: If you’re new to a fight and all of your teammates are standing in one place: you stand there too. IGNORE how much dmg your next attack will do, or how much healing will get done, just drop everything and RUN to be where you need to be. Living > everything else
Honestly you can survive a lot of content blind just by being aware of where your party is. If you see a lot of ranged/healers preemptive move to one spot (never trust melee, they'll almost always greed uptime) it's a safe bet you probably wanna be there.
I've been doing this for all of the harder raids/trials and it always works. Before the fight I always look at what other dps players are doing, kind of like I'm performing a school dance without practicing lmao
Just started last night as a WoW refugee, thanks for all of these! Makes the transition smoother ^.^
Unwritten rule: tell sprouts to turn up their BGM in most raids and the twinning
Get that good, good music
Falalalalalaaa
HELL YES
BEEF SOFT TACOS THE BEEF SOFT TACOS!
deffo. Hades, WOL, emerald BGMs are so goooooooooooooooooooooooood
Unwritten rule: If you see a Lalafell with good glamour you must give them headpats.
My datacenter has a lala named "Pet me", whenever I see that one(I did a couple times in roulettes) I *always* give pets.
Yes, this.
Aww! That's so cute! :3
@@papabones8753 I'm considering changing to Lalafell just for this.
the doggo profile picture makes this even better
Unspoken rule: When twinning, turn it up!
Yes, and if you're tanking Twinning and you see a first timer, make sure to let them know to turn up music and wait a minute so they can do it.
Rule #1
We had 5/8 people down in Yotsuyu's fight when I did it the first time and it felt so clutch to get LB3 off as a healer and get everyone back, with only 20% HP left to go, but sadly people all went down again anyway cause still most of the party hadn't figured out how to dodge her fans. u_u
I've been having Chrysalis come up as my daily trial roulette nearly every day for the last couple of weeks as new sprouts are filtering through. I've had to explain what a limit break was and when the DPS should use it on the tear so many times, only to have them fail to do it and need to WHM LB3 to bring everyone back to finish out the fight.
I had a clutch LB3 on Alexander Prime go off after the intermission got messed up and only half the raid was alive. We managed to beat it after that, making it feel extra powerful.
i almost miss read that as " figured out how to dodge her farts" hahaha
Here's one - if your tank is brand new, and you are a healer....please don't run ahead and start pulling for the tank. If they're going slow, it's because they are brand new and don't want to be the reason the entiry party wipes.
Source: me, crying as my healer runs ahead in The Wanderer's Palace while I try and fail to catch up
This is right. Most tanks know, what they can handle and there is everytime a reason, why the don't do bigpulls. Especially WHMs have to much trust in theier "Holy+Benediction Rotation".
Yeah, I actually have a macro (two, actually) for when I tank.
1 - I am a relatively new tank
2 - I have not done this dungeon before or frequently enough to go crazy with it
That's been great and everyone DOES say, "No problem, take your time". :-)
As far as I'm concerned, the tank sets the pace. I've let the satellite puller get to low health before pulling agro off before. For some reason they get pissy after that.
Doesn't matter if the tank's new. As the healer, and especially as the DPS, it is not your responsibility to know what the tank "can" or "can't" handle. All it does is screw up the rhythm of the pulls and make the whole run even slower. Source: a vet player playing on a new alt character, knowing I couldn't pull wall-to-wall in Tam-Tara because said alt had exactly one defensive cooldown available and our DPS players had limited AoE skills, and having to deal with a healer with this particular failing.
Even though I'm not a new player, been playing since 2013, I am new to tanking and I was running Dohn Mheg last year, I pulled one pack at a time because I was still levelling up my pala and could really only handle one pack at a time. The healer then went and pulled the other pack (mentor btw), then as I expected...we died, I called him an idiot and explained why I was pulling one pack at a time. I got no response, he continued to pull other packs, I got sick of it and left the dungeon. He actually reported me for abuse.
When you get Cape Westwind for trial roulette, you must either:
A. Immediately say gg before it's even pulled
B. If there is a sprout, hype up super difficult mechanics that don't exist
Westwind will always be so hilarious for me XD
post the macro for e8s or something for added credibility
I do this every single time. My favorite was when I told a sprout Tank to use LB3 at the beginning and they were so confused when we killed the dude in like 2 seconds XD
I have a set of waymarkers and usually end up calling SW - W float as soon as we load in. That usually gets people ready to meme while the sprout is watching the cutscene.
I did have it backfire once were the sprout was just terrified and apologized for being new before even starting to cast. I felt so bad for them that I stayed until they were done with the cutscene to explain the meme and told them they did great.
this happened my first time on that fight. my sister said she wanted to do it with me and started to hype how hard it was. Scared me sooo much, and the fight started and i targeted him and he died.
Also claim Cape Westwind trail as the most difficult boss and that the whole party is going to wipe. :)
I love scaring sprouts with that lol. It reminds me of the time I was in their shoes lmao
Oh no, not Westwind. anything but westwind. I'd rather do an ultimate solo. We're doomed. We're gonna be at this for hours. Why'd it have to be westwind? (30 secs later, com the sprout and leave while they're confused on it not being that hard at all.)
Always. What will we do? We're gonna wipe first time, no matter what!
This is the way.
Yes, that has definitely become the norm as I have seen. Love it.
Thank you for this!! I’m a sprout and felt pressured to skip cutscenes in dungeons
Yea, don't. I skipped a lot when I started for this reason and missed some content, but people are pretty chill about it these days. They can always dick around with their inventory or something. If you want to watch it, do so, the majority of people will be cool about it.
Another rule: roll loot as soon as it's added to the loot list. If you don't want it, ROLL PASS FOR THOSE WHO DO. DON'T MAKE THEM WAIT FOR IT.
Especially bad in Alliance raids where you have that ONE guy being AFK, going to the swirly blue, leave and then everyone gets their loot instantly.
Also can't vote dismiss an afk or disconnected player to move on if there's loot on the table
can’t do that without holding everyone up when you’re playing on the playstation tho lol
@@fauxcommander i play on controller and don't have that much of a problem quickly passing on loot
@@Sword_Cowboy i’ve only started playing like three weeks ago 🥴 before that i only played nintendo ds lol
here's one: as a healer, don't be petty and refuse to heal your tank when they fuck up, especially if you're running a low-level duty. that serves no purpose other than making your tank feel bad and getting the party killed lol
plus healing in low level duties you usually dont need to, do it anyway, dps and heal. You can be a heal bot and enjoy the ride
Right? When someone else fails to perform and it's a problem, making yourself an even bigger problem is an awfully strange kind of one-upsmanship.
@@Corrodias yeah, one-up that tank by showing him how a true healer handles things. Keep everyone alive and throw some damage in there for good measure. When I tank and I know I screwed up but, in the end I didn't die, that healer is def getting a comm.
Flip side of this; If your healer notices you aren't using cool downs, or aren't using them until you are very low hp, or don't understand how reprisal and arms length work, listen (as long as they are offering respectful advice) instead of saying not using cool downs is your "play style." I still heal these tanks because I want to finish the dungeon, but they are blacklisted immediately afterwards. Having to be a heal bot in a dungeon makes the game not fun for most competent healers, especially considering a tank can use cool downs effectively without losing anything at all. But a healer loses so much by having to do nothing but heal bot. This game is not wow and it shouldn't be played like it is. There's also this belief that healers are either damage healers or heal only healers and that is simply not true. Competent healers can do both and they lose nothing as long as they follow their abcs (always be casting) and keep their mana regen abilities on cool down.
@@VivieneValkyrie As a healer main, though its Astro and they regen mana different, ie use card get mp, I save my lucid dreaming for emergencies a lot more. Though I pop cards like they are air
If someone lost connection wait at least 5 minutes to kick them from the party, we've all been there sometime
To add, before you kick anyone that has dced, Ask the party if they are with them, and if so are they able to contact them.
This. Gods. I don't always have the best connection and one time, I lost connection in trial roulette and if my sister hadn't been there to be like, "His internet dropped and he's already on his way back in, please don't kick him" I would have come back to having lost my dps in need bonus. DX
@@Tobatobu absolutely not, if your buddy DCs and you say nothing for 5 minutes and the party decides to kick, it's on you, not them
Unwritten rule: don't stand in the aoe expecting the healer to help you, you want heals? get out of the big glowy stuff
But "stand in fire, DPS go higher"
it should be an unwritten rule that you should understand that not everyone standing in aoes is doing it on purpose. When my lag gets bad enough sometimes the aoes wont even show up until I'm already on the floor.
Its ok if you r a BLM cuz healers must adjust =)))
My friend says this all the time: "Don't stand in the Bad!"
Honestly if the tank is doing their job right and DPS's aren't standing in AOE's the only person that needs heals should be the Tank, just the same I cast AOE Regen on everyone all the time so I can focus on keeping the tank up.
Unspoken Rule: When ninja, whenever you use sprint, you MUST have your weapons out. Naruto Run yo.
I would add: when ninja literally always have your weapons out to do sick flips
*takes notes* i just started playing last week and im maining(?) ninja rn
And flippy jumps!
Same with sam
lol 100% agree only job i actually use stance on
"Do not queue for Extreme or Savage content using the Duty finder."
*cries in Mentor roulette*
That’s the perfect opportunity to teach people about that rule though.
Also I think this is how I got my first Ultima Extreme and Odin clears.
A lot of people queue in DF after their PF is around 6/8 ppl. Dont leave after one pull, like a burger king employee, you can affort one or two wipes
Unless theyre french
I learned that a few weeks ago, because I'm on the free trial, can't use the LFG screen, and thought to myself how hard level 50 stuff could be since everyone breeze through the other dungeons.
Still, after 6 wipes we cleared Ramuh Extreme with a bunch of first timers. Somehow.
Well in Japan Servers people use Duty Finder when you already now the content and use Party Finder for practice.
@@NibelungJ it's doable with people who are all willing to learn and actually look at chat for the mentors/people who watched guides to explain. Unfortunately, there's at best like a 50% chance of that being the case.
Unless it's Ifrit EX and then there's a 0% chance.
Tanks, when you have melee dps in your party, do your best to keep mob packs still and facing the same direction so that your melee have no problems hitting their positional weaponskills. It's especially important for Monks as almost all of their core combo weaponskills have positional riders. Try to only move when you need to avoid an aoe!
I agree, but Monk aoe combo doesn't require positionals. Otherwise on bosses Monks have the most positionals. Tanks keep your bosses still pls :)
This! So much.
But I like making the boss spin around. :(
I mean I stopped doing it after I learned positionals exist, but making bosses spin was so much fun.
@@Dharengo That's a good way to get your party hit with a tank cleave and make you deeply unliked/getting yelled at for killing everyone. Tanks need to stand still.
@@CeresAzalia You... Do understand I know that.... Right?
accidentally pulling mobs as a non-tank then bringing them to the tank feels like adding dirty dishes to person who's about to finish washing them
We probably watched it happen, we know whether it was an 'oops' or if you went out of your way to grab it.
You pulling mobs as long as you bring then back to the tank doesnt increase their workload in any way whatsoever
@@khdayskh1314If the Tank -wanted- to pull wall to wall they would be doing it already. For all we know the Healer is new and the Tank is keeping pulls within their wheelhouse.
@@TheElfiestElf I'm saying that under the assumption that the tank is pulling more but forgot that sprint exists and the dps/healer happened to pull hate first
Ive literally seen tanks ragequit/ get offended when that happened. Many times
The Behemoth jump thing is a throwback to standing around Corthas waiting for the Behemoth FATE to pop, get on your little behemoth to summon the big one.
love this one : 02:28
also: In Alliance raids : A is left, B is middle, C is right.
Some people try to "innovate" putting A in the middle just to be different?
A adds B belly C chains
Yeah! Isn’t A often in the middle for one of the bosses in...void ark? I think? Not that people really care about the assignments for that fight. Or maybe I’m totally wrong!
Tell the A/C samurai who failed to notice he was fighting with B the whole first boss of Puppets
I wish I knew. By the time I did it, it was already a joke of a raid (unlike wiping city or death scaith)
Although we almost wiped recently at the port ventilator because no alliance split
@@cocobunitacobuni8738 Me, I didn't understand how Alliance raids worked the first time so I genuinely just walked down the first path that I seen and went feral, thankfully I've learned, but since I was a tank, yeah I got some shit for it lol
Speaking of farm groups: Dont join farm groups and leave after one run for no reason
^^ and if you do have a reason, notify the party before leaving instead of heading out the door without warning
Also if you join an extreme trial with some new people, don't just leave after the first few wipes
I'm a new Final Fantasy XIV player, and on my first time through a dungeon, the tank pulled as I was watching a cutscene, and subsequently he and one of the fighters died and had to respawn because I'm the healer. He was cool about it, though. He apologized and said he didn't realize the healer (me) was watching a cutscene until he was about to die.
you can see it by not just their icon, but also by their names being changed to "Viewing Cutscene"
So nice! In how many other games would this just have resulted in insults? :-O
That happens sometimes. There us an option to skip cutscense you've already watched and if you've been playing a while you have that option on. I try to remember but once I a while I forget to make sure everyone is done with the cutscene before a pull.
Good tanks gets into the habit of doing readychecks.
I had the group pull and beat the final boss, while their healer (me) was still watching the cutscene about big bad dude in a mask... Power to them, I guess...