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I was surprised the racism/colorism wasn’t talked about as much, I’ve seen people on Tiktok talk about how they’re not allowed to enter some clubs etc. because they’re foreigners or how unfriendly some can be towards other Asians who are foreigners particularly those with darker skin
They’re an open channel but there are just certain things I think is way too uncomfortable for them to address. Like an open secret
I’d like them to cover that
So true i still can't get over the interview i heard from one of the cast of the squid game the one who is Filipino he said that one time he rode a bus in korea and the older woman (or is it a guy idk) threw a kimchi on his face and that broke his eye glasses and people inside didn't even help him find his eyeglasses or stood up from him (the older woman threw kimchi on him because he is foreigner) and people on that bus didn't stood up from him because they will be viewed as disrespectful to the elder if they did which is f up because that older woman didn't even respect him that did nothing to her😡
Like black people being denied housing by some landlords. Or elderly Asian people being attacked because they come from certain Asian countries. There is no country that doesn't have racism. It would be better if we worked on ending racism in our own communities, and let Korea work on their issues in this area.
I also saw some Filipino or brown people getting some hate from korean because of their skin color 😡 as much as i love korean drama and kpop i don't want to tolerate what they did to foreigner who is living there because my mom is also living in korea with my korean step dad and one of her manager always make her work harder than the rest of her co worker even though its not her job and even if she cleaned the sink the manager will said that its not clean enough to the point my mom hands got injured because of the cleaning acid 😤 just because my mom is a foreigner doesn't mean they can keep on making her do her co-workers task/work. I'm thankful that her other manager is kind to her and treat her to dinner and take care of her. I wish people in korea will stop hating other people and foreigner because they are foreigner and just because of their skin color because they always just keep it under the rug and ignore this issue i hope some korean yt channel tackle this issue.
I cannot believe they didn't play any videos about the club racism, fear of deportation (cancelling residency), bias towards Koreans when foreigners file police reports/complain etc. This video kind of disappointed me.
THIS. I just left this week for said reason.
The bias thing is in many countries. Whenever i get into an accident and im clearly the victim the police sides with the local because im a foreigner, It happens in America, Russia, South Korea, China, Japan, Mexico, Italy, Paris, and so on...
I want to visit but not live in Korea I hated it feel like I was living among robots wake up the first I see is posters of plastic surgery people go to work get home eat and the cycle continue
@@hanashin1276 omfg. you people are in such deep denial. YOUR COUNTRY ISNT FREE FROM CRITICISM. stop excusing shit just because another country is worse or other countries do the same.
@@hanashin1276 you sound like a racist Republican from the south “if you don’t like the fact that we attack people, just LEAVE” absolutely not, we implore you to be better. Sorry if that’s a strange concept to you
Nah why y'all covering up the clubbing parts where koreans are racist to foreigners though I was expecting that to be included 😂 (also thanks for the huge likes. I just wanted the producer and his team to post another video including such things since they posted about Asian hate in other countries, they literally showed all videos discrimination against asians but as soon as it came to their country they wanna cover somethings and just show few of them. This is fr giving dispatch and hybe behaviour
I literally was thinking that. There are so many stories from foreigners saying they get discriminated against and/or banned from being able to go to come clubs because they are a foreigner. But if you come to places like the US, you won’t banned as easily from many places when it comes to clubbing and drinking.
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Recently two black women and a Latino man were assaulted in clubs in Korea. It’s disgusting
@@louisejohnson6057 you stupid? Yes the population is the same and there is racism anywhere. But in Europe and US we have laws against explicit prejudices, not allowing a certain race in a club is a big thing and reprehensible. I don't think you understand the situation, there it's a REGULAR thing to not accept foreigners being racist and especially colorist
@@louisejohnson6057 That is not what OP's comment was about at all, stop diverting. The point of the comment was to point out a cover-up of the undeniable racism against foreigners that impact their lives way more seriously than most of the pet peeves OSSC decided to include. This is disappointing on behalf of the PD team
I’m a bit disappointed that racism wasn’t mentioned. It’s a huge reason ppl want to leave. There are literally places that have signs saying no foreigners, and even places that take it a step further and specify no black people.
The hugest reason why people leave any country is because of job satisfaction. I am surprised nobody is talking about the absurdity of korean work culture. Always being pressured to do unpaid overtime, aka. slavery, when it's not necessary, but because of workplace pressure it's what you have to do, and only being able to leave once your boss leaves and if you leave before, you get scolded. Being unable to talk back to your boss if he's wrong because it's considered "rude". Forced company dinners even after a long day of work and overtime and you're looked down upon if you don't come. Just work, work, work 24/7 no time for fun, no work/life balance. Sometimes Koreans value work over even their own health and family. J It's extremely detrimental to anyone's mental health and because people have no personal time that's exactly why the birth rate is so low.
Not to mention I heard office politics in Korea are a lot more toxic than in other countries.
@@theguy6082 yeah it’s definitely part of it, though i think most people who come to korea aren’t doing business type jobs (unless they are affiliated with their previous one) considering the job market.
I would say in the example you provided it's more xenophobia than racism. I, as a Korean-American, was not allowed to enter those places either.
@@oppaheimer88 xenophobia and racism are different but often together. You can have racism without xenophobia, but you can’t have xenophobia without racism
@@oppaheimer88 reread my comment… I said there are places where there’s a general rule about no foreigners, which would be an example of xenophobia in Korea. I also said that there are places that target black people specifically (not general foreigners), which is racism. There are signs that blatantly say “no black people”. I’ve literally witnessed non-black foreigners be let in to certain places, but wouldn’t let black people in. I gave examples of both xenophobia and racism. But it’s interesting that you chose to ignore that part of my comment.
You guys should do a part two too and show the discrimination side too. Most youtubers who live in Korea, have spoken the most about this. Refusal in clubs, only getting certain jobs, staring, people not sitting next to foreigners on trains. these make a hugge impact to foreigners in korea, probably a bigger impact than these issues which are quite minor inconviences in retrospect.
It’s because they don’t care. Smh. It’s the racism that keeps me from visiting the country. We already deal with it enough in the states. Sure don’t want to pay to travel and deal with the same mistreatment.
And that sucks because I’d love to visit South Korea.
@@ry5604 I've been to Korea, you should go. I stayed in Seoul, I didn't face too much discrimination because of the area i was in. It was pretty open. I'm also not a person who goes to night clubs. So i didn't experience that. The only thing that really stood out is that when i was paying for something, it was like i couldn't read or i didn't know how to count money. So they always wanted to "help" me put the correct amount. Basically if you stay in Seoul and the surrounding areas, it shouldn't be too bad.
@@ry5604 Colorism is a problem, but you'd be fine if you go to populated or touristy areas in Seoul. Yongsan is most open-minded simply because of the high immigrant/foreigner demographic.
@@ry5604 facts. I live in england but im not going to no country to face racism. I have enough of it here
@@ry5604 They've already made several videos on racism, what do you mean "they don't care"?
Are you mentally challenged?
I feel like there should be more. Like Korean men trying to sleep with foreigners for clout or being stared at like a zoo animal or public transportation problems. I mean there was even that show where the foreign kids talked about discrimination they faced. That was heartbreaking.
THIS. Micro agressions are the reason i left after dedicating 10 years to korea :/
@@HotaruChuu what do you mean by " Micro agressions"?
@@qweasdzxc i mean:
Visits/services/products at a higher price for foreigners compared to koreans
Middle aged koreans purposely bumping and/or cursing you in the street and transportation (xenophobic slurs)
Old and middle aged men staring long and hard and then asking if I'm Russian (I'm not even tall, blonde or blue eyed) = "are you a prostitute", it's not meant as a compliment
People glaring or switching seats away from you even though it's a packed bus/subway
Priority given to koreans, never to foreigners
Foreigners having to pay really high insurance that has little coverage
Police never believes you
Clubs forbidding entrance to foreigners, sometimes even target specific nationalities
Being provoked in the streets especially when out partying because if you react to them they can call the police and sue you
Having to constantly know the law because even immigration will lie their ass off to cancel your visa or make it harder for you to stay
Fetishism, being talked disrespectfully (반말) even if they're not supposed to
And mind you, I'm white and have a strong passport (french) my poc friends especially from SE asia and Africa had it much worse (they're perceived as poor or delinquent)
@@HotaruChuu yes people now only go for kpop and kdrama if it was not for these two I think more people would not want or wish to be in korea and if there are people that love asia they would go to japan more than south korea
@@HotaruChuu can i ask you why western people kill asians with a riffle?
Im disappointed colorism/racism against foreigners wasn't talked about more. I woukd assume that's one of the hardest issues
Check their channel, they've already made that video like 5 months ago.
the girl explaining bc it’s trendy not bc they don’t have character…. LMAO that’s like the definition of not having your own individuality or character cause all of them follow the trends
Th e whole video was them just making excuses Lol, I never knew Koreans were so brainwashed. It’s like prc over there
Trends are followed everywhere, be it US, Uk or China
Ah thats why all Korean guys have the Same hair Cut
@@sambatra6162 the US and UK have a individualism ideology china,Korea are a collective society
True LOL
I lived and studied in Korea for 2 years and as a dark skinned filipino, I was treated very poorly by many average Koreans. Other international classmates of mine were too, but luckily, our school life was somewhat peaceful since most of our Korean classmates were kind and accepting. My friend who was black got spat on while we were walking towards school, I got called a prostitute, and jungle monkey, our intelligence was questioned, and we were looked at as if we were lesser beings simply for existing. It's just funny to me that Koreans in general put up a fuss when there's news of asian people getting discriminated against in other countries, but when they have to deal with their own biases and discrimination within their own country, they turn a blind eye to the problem
This is very well said. I'm actively looking for an English teaching position in Sk but I'm only staying for a max of two years. I didn't hear much about discrimination and xenophobia 10 years ago when i first looked into it, but now that more people are speaking out on it, it worries me. Luckily I have a Korean friend in the country that I'll be able to talk to, but I'm sure I will have my own stories to tell.
@@roycetravels Good luck my friend! And yes every case will be different so I'm glad you're still following your dreams! I will say, if you are white or light-skinned, you will most likely be treated relatively well. You'll get a lot of looks though haha. And also probably still be avoided in a way (people might not sit next to you in transit, might avoid you when you're just walking by ...etc) and it can feel lonely especially your first year, but I'm glad you'll have your Korean friend with you. That will definitely help a lot!
This happens in every country, nobody likes to address racism in their own countries, mostly because most people aren't really racist. Here in Argentina we have this kind of racism against people from neighbour countries or asians, and sometimes it goes from just an insult to killing them for being foreigners, but if you ask most people in Argentina they will obviously not agree. There was a case of a Bolivian woman who was pregnant, she was pushed out of a train (trains here in those years didn't have closed doors) by an Argentinian man not before yelling some racist slurs to her, she died and he never faced any charges.
Leave the country. It's the worst place on earth.
@@kpomasterify we don't spat at black people in my country. So It doesn't happen everywhere
You have to include the bad club stories… because there are a lot of those. It’s one of the most common topics of bad experience in Korea
I wonder why they didnt include the real reason alot of people dont like living in there.... the racism, the exclusion, not being able to familiarize yourself with their inner circles and basically having a hard time having a social life with koreans.
Some clubs in Korea have banned Indians from entry, I don’t see this happening anywhere else
Are you serious that's happening in Korea? 😲😲
Go to Japan, it's literally the same thing. Even if people try to romanticize Japan and say it's not like that, trust me it is.
And it's crazy because of this happened in the US or any other western country there would be such a huge public outcry.
걍 저건 한국인도 나이많아보이고 센스 없어보이면 못들어가던데. 차별금지법없어서 그런듯 비판 받아야함
Really!!!! that's messed up.
The reasons addressed in this video are VERY MINOR compared to actual reasons why as someone who lives here , I struggle to see living on a long term basis ….a part 2 addressing the extreme levels of colorism and racism as well as the adoption of American black culture (but with the erasure of origins) etc… there are so many actual problems this video other than stuff like “people wearing padded jackets)”😒
How about westerners stop trying to impose their world views on others
Ah, a black person with a victim complex. That's new
They're probably not going to address these problems. Korea isn't an immigration nation and for the most part they don't care if foreigners stay or not.
Its about time people are starting to notice how kpop are stealing hiphop culture. I’m not even black but I noticed how many styles and ideas they stole or used for their own benefits.
I’m talking about how Jessi’s performance stole Cardi Bs pink gloves, or how Lisa uses the “throne like chair” like nicki minaj does, or even how BTS performed on a roof building after The weeknd performed on the roof for BBMA.
@@Buttsceatcgee didn’t Jessi (I think) copy a black womans music video too?
@@banjo9356 I dont really watch their videos. It would pop up in my recommendations and the props they used looked familiar to a black artist props.
I was there for a few month. And it’s true Korea is truly the most racist country I’ve been to personally. I got so much hate because I’m a dark skin American of Latin decent. I remember going to a club with friends and went to the bathroom and got escorted out of the building. Even though I paid to get in. With no explanation. Met up later with my Korean friend who apologized.
woah, they kicked you out even though you paid??
@@jakhia yea so went in as a group of 5 3 guys 2 girls 1 was the only non Korean. We paid the entrance fee I was in for maybe 20 min when I went to go find a bathroom. And when I got out I was escorted out of the building. With a no you can come in.
Yeah, True even in social media they're so racist
¿Es en serio? Yo quiero hacer un programa académico corto allá y leer estas cosas como latina me desanima :(
Hola, soy de México y ahora llevo dos meses viviendo en Corea.
Hace dos semanas fui a un club en Hongdae, uno que está cerca de la calle principal de esta área. Fui con mi novio, yo estaba bailando y me estaba divirtiendo, habían unas dos chicas coreanas bailando arriba de unas plataformas cerca de donde yo estaba.
Ellas andaban por todo el lugar bailando con más chicas coreanas y extranjeras, cuando quise acercarme para bailar en grupo cerca de la plataforma la chica me empujó mientras me decía 안돼 안돼!!!!
En otro club igual...
Fui en grupo con mi novio y sus amigos, yo la única mujer y extranjera entre ellos. Igual dos chicas que estaban sentadas en frente de mi comenzaron a apuntarme con el dedo y me hacían caras mientras hablaban entre ellas.
Me han dicho que seguro soy una Prostituta por estar en una piscina pasando la tarde con mis amigos y amigas.
Vine a Corea pensando que me sentiría mejor y estaría más tranquila, pero he recibido malos comentarios o comentarios pasivo agfesivos incluso viniendo de la mamá de mi novio.
Siento mucha presión por tener que estar flaca de más, por mi color de piel porque también me han dicho que tengo piel oscura. Mi deseo y sueño era vivir aquí, y aun quiero vivir aquí, pero me siento cansada y frustrada~
Some issues I'd like to see this channel address
1. Mixed kids being treated as outsiders and other Koreans being racist towards them (as a mixed kid myself it was hard as hell * not Korean tho *)
2. Why are foreigners not allowed in clubs
3 . Racism towards other Asians esp if you have darker skin tone & black people (anyone who isn't white)
4. Lots of foreign women have talked about men wanting to sleep with them to brag bout it 💀
5. Why would foreigners who were born n raised in korea with Korean citizenship still be considered an outsider (I can't understand this cause my family is scattered around with different citizenships n they've always been considered apart of their respective countries)
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Totally agree!
Those people are frogs in the well. I am Korean, but regardless of skin color, I treat people as people. People and people should not discriminate against each other, but should respect each other.🙏🏻
Some clubs don't accept foreigners.They say that foreigners have caused too many accidents in the club that they can't handle, so they don't get it after that.He politely asked for understanding and even interviewed me that he didn't accept it, so it was published in the article. In Korean clubs, there is an entrance cut that cuts at the entrance even if it is the same nationality. Dress codes are often limited to far from clubs or age restrictions.There are cases where age restrictions and clothes that do not fit the club dress code are restricted.
i feel like they intentionally left the bigger issues out, like the severe zenophobia and sexism.
and racism
Just brushing over things that won't make them look bad is the classic for me.
Hmm I wish there was deeper discussion as to the xenophobia and racism foreigners are speaking up and saying they experience in Korea. For example foreigners on a whole not being allowed in some clubs or white foreigners being let in but not black or Latino foreigners, persons not wanting to sit next foreigners and would prefer to stand on the train, the staring, the children’s day controversy they had the other day where only Korean children would be let in free to theme parks or the residency card still saying foreign alien in this day and age etc. The topics covered in the video felt quite superficial
음, 외국인들이 한국에서 경험하고 있는 외국인 혐오증과 인종차별에 대해 좀 더 깊은 논의가 있었으면 좋겠어요. 예를 들어, 일부 클럽에서는 외국인이나 흑인이나 라틴계 외국인은 들어갈 수 없지만 백인 외국인은 들어갈 수 없습니다. 사람들은 외국인 옆자리에 앉기를 원하지 않고 기차에 서기를 선호합니다. 응시하는 것, 어린이날 논쟁 그들은 단지 한국 아이들만 놀이공원에 자유롭게 들어갈 수 있었습니다.r 레지던트 카드에는 아직도 외국인이라고 쓰여져 있습니다. 요즘 시대에도요. 비디오에서 다루는 주제들은 매우 피상적으로 느껴졌습니다.
I have little experience - only 4 days in Seoul - but some of those observations chimed with me. It's certainly much more monocultural and conformist than London. OTOH Korea is a fantastic country whose creativity, industry and innovation have been a real phenomenon of the past 60 years. Hope to stay longer next time!
True
Even without racism, it can be conformist and classist as I see from interviews in Korea.
Yeah, that's the attitude to have. You're the kind of person who will have a meaningful and enlightening experience here because you are respectful. For Koreans, it's all about respect, no matter your colour.
@@user-jr5xn6vo7s what about the people who are respectful but don’t receive that back
Glad that you're able to see both sides, if only more were like you
Thanks for using my video 👍🏻 hopefully next time you can talk more about some of the serious issues that foreigners have a hard time living here- like because of racism, xenophobia etc.
I feel like with regards to social issues, S.Korea is still living in 2004 or something. Segregation in some establishments, people hating the colour of their own skin, group think preventing you from wearing certain colours or trying unique styles, gender stereotypes, normalised prevalence of patriarchal ideologies.. all happening in big 2022!
You have to understand that S. Korea was a poor country just 50 years ago, and the country is still largely homogeneous. It'll obviously take time for S. Korea to develop more socially.
@@sambatra6162 well I hope it does happen eventually, because it's a bit sad to see so many not being able to live in their truth in that country without being made to feel like outcasts
More like they're stuck in the 1950s. The country has done a lot to catch up technology wise, but that really need to start working on social issues and mental health
@@crystalo1186 well its not like USA is very ahead
@@sambatra6162 we’re ahead in every aspect in comparison to korea tho
To be honest I fell like they never talked about Racism, colorism,and xenophobia which really makes me really disappointed because is the most obvious and notorious things when you talk about the experience of living in Korea as a foreigner and it gets worse if you are poc, like it is a big problem with korean society ( just as any other, but in this case is about korea) and most importantly the topic that I wanted to be recognized was how foreigner women are often targeted and have to go through very bad situations , and how they are seen as an easy target by korean men, because of this women’s situation of being in a complete different country. I have heard enough stories from foreign women living in korea how they had to go through bad situations often involving s3*ual harassment and other things. In the end they really covered pretty much things that are so simple or something more of a cultural shock that actually what has been talking about a lot recently in social media about these bad experiences in Korea and how after being again in a completely different country and society and sometimes alone plus this experiences I just talked about can be overwhelming and completely ruin your whole experience staying in this country, but yeah what I think should be talked in this video mostly was racism/ colorism, xenophobia etc. and how foreign women are seen through this stereotypical way of being “easy”( kind of with the thing that “we are open minded” idk how to explain it) and how they are often harassed. ( sorry for my bad english and also for the long comment)
Talk about “no foreigners” places, please! That’s super important!
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웃기다
it's simple. Foreigners are usually banned from bars and clubs. Because they fight alot and they don't take responsibility
@@hobihobi21894 ???
I agree with the beauty standards thing. Being pretty/handsome seems to be valued over personality and talent in South Korea. Attractive people are definitely treated better and get more opportunities, no matter how talented or skilled they actually are/are not.
This is very unfair
True.... Af
Absolutely well said
@@user-jx5ex1kr6l I understand where you’re coming from but please do not hide all the flaws in the Korean system.
@@user-jx5ex1kr6l U can't hide that they are racist in fact i considered them the most racist in Asia
Not surprised they ignored to most important things of why foreigners wouldn’t like Korea. Totally intentional bc most of those videos are about racism lol guess they did their best to edit that out and pretend it doesn’t exist.
This was much much milder than expected.
I'm not surprised tbh this isn't the first time that they've brushed over the racism thing
I’ve seen harsher ones with important topics such as racism, colourism, inequality, sexism, r*pe... hopefully you show that next time, don’t cover it up, be part of the change.
I was excited about going to Korea but when I watched videos of black foreigners living in Korea , i wasn’t excited anymore but I feel like Korea is still new in welcoming and accepting international people from around the world.
Tbh, im an asian, but not from japan, china or korea... And i remember going with one of my friend (who can speak Korean) to travel, and someone said that my nose and body is big, when im just a lil bit chubby 🤣
But well, im not going to fix anything. Im happy with what i have.
Also, they do kinda bit racist towards black foreigners and Muslim.
Right samee
samee i still wanna go but now i gotta be ready for the negative things there
@@mammonsimp6973 muslims? Huh? How can anyone be racist against muslims? islam is a religion not a race.
@@sambatra6162 sorry i should properly worded it but english is not my most fluent language, but u get the gist of it tho. I mean, you still get the context of it, right? And why i cant see your comments anymore?
This wasn't as 'deep' of a video as I thought. We all know what the #1 reason is as to why foreigners want to leave Korea. Racism and xenophobia are topics that need discussion. Hopefully there is a follow up video.
Plz do a Part II & show how dark skinned, disabled, disenfranchised, divorced etc., are treated even within their own Korean families.
The way I see it, Korea I new to the international community. Yes they have been open for decades. But it is only recently that it's become more and more international. I do wish Koreans would be open to making new friends no matter the age. I think having friends of different age groups give you different perspective in life and generations
I've noticed that in K-pop groups. Like they were training for years together and have maked a good relationship with each other but just considerate "friends" the ones who born in the same year
@@user-pp7gb8vy3i I feel like It's probably the way they adress them considering Korea place importance to the way you adress your elder, that's why it's not unusual for ppl to ask your birth year so they know what to adress you. I'm may be wrong but that's how I view it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
This hasn’t even touched the surface of what foreigners in S.K have to deal with loool
Went straight to the comments expecting a dumpster fire, was not disappointed.
Why didn’t you guys mention how foreigners aren’t allowed to enter some clubs/restaurants 🤔
That's due to the US military and all the fights that happened over the years. It's not racism idiot
They knew about this but they didn’t want to make a bad impression about Korea
They be so quick to point out other but when it comes to their country they cover things up, disappointing.
I thought that the dating and clubbing culture would be mentioned. I do think that they should have added more and talked more about the colourism. Maybe they are going to cover it in another video.
i dont know how it is now but ten years back I was discriminated so damn bad that I quit my studies after 2 months. dont make me start when they knew I was a muslim.. 🤢
“Why do you want to leave Korea? The weather is cold😭😭😭” lolllllll this video did no justice to the real reasons…
im extremely surprised how yall didnt include the biggest part of why foreigners dont want to live in sk the xenophobia and racism ☹️ especially in clubs
5:16 THIS IS SO TRUE!! "once a foreigner, forever a foreigner". No matter you basically lived or born(immigrants/mixed parent) in Korea, you can't FIT in. You learnt and knew well the language, history, everything or even older than any Korean in Korea, like you actually one of the people that experiencing a historical moment that written in their history book .. but at the end you're just merely foreigner with typical question "where are you from"?. They create a very obvious line between local and foreigner. Simply put, if you're a foreigner, know your place. Tq.
Also, there was a study done that showed that South Korea is one of the nations that trusts strangers the least. Not just foreigners but KOREAN strangers too, which is important to remember. They’re generally more insular in their social circles and don’t seem to venture out of them as much. So it’s not just cause ur a “foreigner” but you’re a stranger in general.
same with me
I was bullied a lot
my friends didn't gave fuck about me
then started bullying me as well
I just dont trust people
Lmao literally the main reason foreigners want to leave Korea is because most Koreans (including law makers and politicians) have absolutely no concept of discrimination. Not to mention the day-to-day casual microaggressions. I like this channel a lot but you can't tell me you watched all of these videos of foreigners talking about Korea and not one of them mentioned, "uhm, basically Korea is xenophobic as hell"😂
not a big fan of this one… maybe a part 2 of the real reasons why people don’t want to live in korea, the racism, colorism , homophobia etc…..
do you want korea to be politically correct like leftist county?
Some clubs don't allow most foreigners in (mostly in areas where we have caused problems at clubs because we have a different standard of what is acceptable behavior at the club when we get drunk) but I honestly feel like none of these things were a problem when I lived there. If you want to pass someone just say, "첨시만요" (I think I spelled that wrong but the sounds are right) "cheom-shi-man-yo" and people look back and move aside or make space to get past if possible. This works even better for foreigners because they are usually pleasantly surprised that a foreigner used the correct phase in Korean. Making friends is very easy with an app and then they are excited to introduce you to their old friends especially if you are very open to trying new things and trying to learn the language and culture and discovering new food. I feel that we (especially us Americans) are ethnocentric (even if we didn't mean to be) and tend to judge things like what was mentioned in the video from our cultural perspective when we need to learn to be looking at it from the viewpoint of the culture around us. If you go to a new country you have to adapt to the new culture around you
Some clubs only allow white foreigners but not dark skinned ones, only koreans who living abroad /travel abroad are more friendly , is really difficult adjust of the culture if they still see you as foreigner and avoid you even if you know korean (look the koreans who "dont look korean" they get hard time even if they are koreans to make friends or talk with people ) .
We judged that because koreans when they get discriminated abroad make a big fuzz but when they discriminate foreigners or other koreans they act like if they are blind/deaf/and play dumb.
In my country when somebody discriminate foreigners we dont try to justify that we pointed out the beahviour of the person .
If the culture attack the human rights of the person that is unaceptable
Korea is advertising to boost their tourism when they need to learn to accept people from different culture and work on educating themselves about basic human rights seriously the hypocrisy
What hypocrisy? People wanting to visit don't even do basic research on korean culture and just expects S. Korea to accomodate around their thinking, when it should be the other way around.
Exactly
@@sambatra6162 Stop caping for their bullshit
@@sambatra6162 will you please elaborate with an example what exactly you want to convey here?
@@sambatra6162 wanting basic respect is something people shouldn’t have to earn. no ones asking for anyone to accommodate to their needs, they literally just want to be treated like fucking human beings?
Hmmm... I kinda feel they didn't want to include the racism/xenophobia because they don't want to show a bad image of Korea... but again is something that happens around the world and since they're opening up to the world is something they should talk about to make the problem more visible so they can put a solution to it
Mostly it's because it's overblown. If you read the comments they keep talking about clubs and being denied entry. That's not really important.
Also for the most part, those clubs have those rules because something went down in the past. You have to remember there's a ton of dumb young kids that goes there to teach English and they do all sorts of stupid hijinx that leads to people thinking of foreigners in the wrong way
Probably hurt them to talk about that yeah, should let them know we're fine with them talking about it and won't judge
I’m sorry but this video didn’t even cover the serious issues about South Korea, they are literally sugar coating the whole reason why foreigners don’t want to live in their country.
I honestly think that korea can keep their culture and everything while trying to be more openminded and accepting of differences. I always wondered why koreans get so fascinated with america. And now i can see that they are in awe and feel refreshed to see how mostly openminded and accepting america can be. I hope one day SK can be that way as well. I see japan is somewhat working on their way to being more openminded and accepting of foreigners. But there is still alot to be worked on though.
USA itself isn't that accepting and open minded, look at all the racism in USA. Aside, from such major cities a large of USA can still be very close minded.
@@sambatra6162 The USA is totally different from SK idk why you’re trying to compare it to SK. A lot of ppl in the US are more accepting than South Koreans. We have different teachings and the US is not a homogeneous country so a lot of ppl stand up against racism. The US is very open minded that’s why the ppl here have more individuality than South Koreans.
@@nb9305 there are a lot of close minded people in USA as well, racism is at an all time high, asian elders are harassed on streets, your cops are racist, police brutality, there are states where abortion is illegal, violence against transgender people is way higher in USA. These things don't happen in S. Korea, to act as if USA is so open minded and accepting while USA has such issues is embarrassing.
@@sambatra6162 the problem is your comparing SK to the US. They’re different Sk is a homogeneous country so they don’t accept things the US is gonna to accept lol. The US is more open minded than SK so I don’t see your point at all. Ik US have there own problems but if you don’t see the difference between these two environments then you’re delusional.
@@sambatra6162 why are you trying to argue? Racism is everywhere and that’s a fact, but the U.S is known to be more accepting than other homogeneous/conservative countries with South Korea being one of them. South Korea bases everything on looks…being gay isn’t acceptable and they can’t even marry the opposite gender…pda between couples is considered rude…many citizens bully each other into getting plastic surgery or committing suicide. Ultimately the US is more accepting and diverse being that America is full of people from all around the world and has no specific based race such as Korea. In America a South Korean can walk in public and nobody will stare them down…but a black person can walk in South Korea and be treated like a animal in a petting zoo. There is no argument there…Koreans literally say that Americans are too friendly and open..and if they did half of the things we do in America they would get in trouble or have a ruined reputation.
Feels like quite a bit was not shown? The videos I've seen has a lot more complaints, some of them more serious than just that.
It is a bit disappointing they didn't mention racism. I once went to a chicken restaurant in Seoul, and was told they didn't have chicken there...as a table was filled with people eating chicken...so we should try the other place. This is one example
I feel like Koreans worry a lot about conformity
I think that are more important things to discuss about that makes people don't like or don't want to live in korea such as racism, homofobia, xenofobia
!!BEFORE YOU COMMENT!!
They have already done a video about racism in Korea! I think 3 or 4 MONTHS ago! They have already made a WHOLE VIDEO about what all these comments are complaining about. They do not need to make MULTIPLE videos about this subject if they don't want to.
I’m scared to be refused entry into a club or restaurant etc just based on the fact that I’m foreign🥲😪. It makes me scared to go out and experience new things. When I travel to Korea I’m gonna have to really do my research before going clubbing (to know if there foreigner friendly). Hope in the future you can react to foreigners talking about this issue, bc a lot of them do.
Take this with a grain of salt because I haven't been back to Korea in close to a decade.
The club thing isn't new, that was going on even when I was there. The issue they had though was the stupid shenanigans the English teachers used to pull that they just banned them for the most part.
A lot of expats here talks about it from their experience which is fair but they also leave out the bit where they've caused Koreans to think that foreigners = social delinquents
Again, a lot might have changed because when I was there it was mainly young men that went to teach English - not really tourists. And if you understand young men, they do a lot of stupid things, which is amplified more when they're overseas
Here's a little secret about the clubs. They reject Koreans all the time too. Race is the easy way to reject foreigners.
lol how was racism not mentioned in this video, i can't even tell you how much racism i have seen people say they experience...
As a foreigner living in Korea, it seems impossible to keep friends. I'm the one always contacting the friend through text, calls, etc. If I just decide to stop contacting the person, even if we're otherwise friendly towards each other, I almost always will never hear from that person again. It makes me think they never wanted to be friends to begin with.
omg SAME! like i don't live in korea but i do have 2 korean friends and i think i didn't respond them in 3 months for whatever reason and they don't even ask whats going on like ????? they fr forget or don't care about you
@@alexis7- I really hate to be pessimistic because I actually enjoy living in Korea. But it seems like the concept of "Jeong" (정/情) only refers to friendships between Koreans. Of course there's probably people out there that are an exception, but as someone who has lived here for almost a decade, those Koreans make up less than 10% of people I've met.
@@koreanpathfinder woah this made me not want to answer them at all anymore 😓 I really wanna study in Korea but this makes me very nervous about not being able to have actual friends
Even going for same trend characterises lack of individuality . It just means some trend is directing how everyone is getting dressed.
It's funny how the cultures are different. Here in Finland, at least in school, many would avoid buying clothes that someone from the same class has. As a kid I really wanted to avoid having similar clothes that someone else had, but now I don't really care anymore.
@@cheezy7746 I know, and that is just such a stupid mindset. Here it is more like (especially for school-aged kids) "Why are YOU copying ME???". My sister was bullied at school for having same shoes that someone else had.
the racism and xenophobia is the main reason.
Please do a part 2 that covers racism, colourism, Korean police bias and how it makes it hard for foreigners to report hate crimes/discrimination.
If we are going to have this conversation let’s at least try to have it honestly 😊
After the no hate asian campaign surrounded everywhere then somehow I see korean also speak about that I suddenly remember how actually korean people do the same thing to foreigners, black people, southeast asian countries. Maybe they not realized but it's truly happened. Korea is homogenous country they never see any diferensial among people. So when they meet new people with different skin color, hairstyle or language they said something bad. They did the same thing even among korean themselves. I had to see korean celebrity with darker skin indeed it's still bright, they call her black person.
Not talking about mix races kids, they face so many hardships. The fact that bullying also the biggest issue in korea and you can imagine how hard foreigners face the society.
So why didn’t u show them the REAL reasons?👀😂
I was so surprised when I heard that Korea was so racist and didn’t hide it.
i would love to visit or maybe even live in south korea, but as a black woman, it sounds kinda scary. i’m fascinated by the korean culture and the people. it’d be a shame for me to be disliked just because i look different. 😢
I appreciate the topic of the video, but it would’ve been more impactful if we get videos by foreigners, especially Black & Brown foreigners, where they talked about racism and xenophobia they’ve experienced when they lived in Korea. It gets a bigger picture as to why they left.
This video didn't told about racism in Korea which is racism in Korea is biggest problem. Their racism is so cruel.
yeah lack of individualism is one of the biggest thing in korea for sure
This must've been the "Intro to" video because those were all mild in comparison. I had a Korean girlfriend and a Korean wife (separate time periods) who didn't believe me when I told them that taxis wouldn't stop for us because I was standing with them, so to prove the point, I stood back away from them until they opened the door, and I would get in with them. The taxi driver would get pissed and start bitching. The first time that I attempted it with my girlfriend, I moved to the taxi too early, and the driver saw me, so he took off while my girlfriend had the door halfway open, but she hadn't started to get in yet. Both of them said that they were ashamed for their country because they never knew that foreigners were treated that way, and Im a white guy.
Don't even get me started about the corruption of the Ministry of Justice, especially against foreigners when Koreans are involved, and doubly-so when said Koreans are wealthy.
the title is kind of misleading :/
I like this video, but I agree with most of the comments that there should be a part two going into deeper issues. This really doesn’t even scratch the surface.
Racism, and not being allowed in clubs because of ur skin color SHOULDVE been talked abt more. Also the fact that u can’t defend urself from a citizen has me shocked. Like u can get beaten up but all u can do is report them. Also discrimination. Not anyone sitting next to you on the bus. All sorts of stuff. This is the bare minimum that’s being talked abt.
This channel doesn't care about the truth. Only their truth
Now I understand why koreans don't interact with foreigners so much. When I studied japanese and chinese, everyone approached me but when I studied korean, I didn't receive any messages 😅 I'm still wondering how I can fit in to be their friend
Don't try to fit in, they probably already have a bunch of people that are going to be similar. For the out part show your own personality and experiences - people on this comment board for the most part seems to have very limited experiences with Koreans or they're coming from a self-centred viewpoint. The reason I'm saying this is that most Koreans do appreciate interacting with foreigners and actually gives a lot of passes if you do something wrong with the context of you being foreign.
One thing you could do is actually reach out to them. Sounds like you're waiting for people to reach out to you, but in this context you have to initiate
@@XXX3155 no matter how many times you reach out to them once something happens and you by chance stop, they act as if you don't exist and would likely never interact with you again so it's a complete waste of time to even invest in friendship with them
Beauty standards: I want more Korean women to feel free to say, like Hwasa, I don't fit the standard of beauty? Then I'll make my own. The Korean standard is so limited.
Didn’t even talked about racism and homosexuality
It was very difficult to hear what those interviewed was saying because the Koreans were reacting to their comments while they were talking instead of just listening to what they said then commented at the end. It would have been better had this happened.
They should have made the video longer it looks like they were trying to cover it up
that's because they don't "listen" to the videos, they just read the Korean subtitles
You should let them react where the foreigner were sexually harassed by the people and the authorities didn’t do anything about them.
And yes, they all were teachers (the survivors)
The bit about winter clothing, reminded me of when *the Raiders Jacket* became a big deal, in schools.
All the kids had to have on and if you didn't get one, you were pretty much shunned.
The comments were enough for me not to watch this. Thanks, y'all, for saving me the trouble because I would've been annoyed!
So many of these comments are hypocrites claiming all koreans are racist 💀 its not a good place for foreigners thats like the biggest point why are you guys making up the most exaggerated comments
I believe its a LOT of trolls on here. They KEEP saying the same things and some are saying the exact same words but various accounts. It is SO so tired. Sheesh. They also miss the ignorance on their own part.
How disappointing.. the main issues are not even mentioned in this video.
Surprised the racism wasn't talked about
Literally every single thing talked about in this video, I felt while I was living in Korea for two years. Very very true. But at the same time there are also many wonderful things about Korea
Agree with the visual standard thing, in my country we have a lot of type of beauty that's why there is not really a beauty standard, if you are good looking then you are good looking, there is nothing like "double eyelid, milk skin, nose, big eye, etc." The diversity of people in my country might be the reason
Thanks for showing these! There's A LOT more out there with a lot more issues to show them! Keep 'em coming.
I understand and appreciate that Korea is still fairly new to trying to be open to multiple cultures and it is new to a lot of the societal norms the rest of the world has had time to cultivate. I tell my mom all the time that Korea is to be applauded for how rapidly they take in and adjust to change especially considering the America is still VERY messed up itself and they've had HUNDREDS of years to improve and this is as far as we've gotten. :'(
With that in mind, society cannot address an issue if it remains unknown/hidden. :D
- Public domestic abuse and not helping others (Seriously, WTF is up with that! They're always shocked when I stop a man hurting a woman, once even had the nerve to applaud, why didn't THEY help her or even stand WITH ME against him?!)
- Racism
- Sexism
- Colorism even amongst Koreans and other Asians
- "Gatekeeping" and nationalism at clubs (only Koreans allowed), enrolling children in schools, bullying on public transportation b/c the Koreans assume the foreigners do not speak or understand Korean
- Starring at foreigners for LONG stretches of time, touching them without consent especially us Black women, pulling our hair, touching our hair, trying to rub off our skin color
- Purposefully stepping on the backs of foreigners shoes
- Poor treatment from employers (there's a current flood of teachers leaving Korea right now due to being mistreated and disrespected by parents/falculty/and haggyojang/chilpan in Korea
Holy fuck at the domestic violence on public. Smdh
I agree that these things happen, but I've never heard of people stepping on the back of shoes. How do you know it happens purposely? (Not meant in an accusatory way)
@@YogurtwithBerries They do it. Then when you turn and look at them they look away and then do it again....and again. Not a crowded sidewalk situation either. They don't NEED to be all up on you, but they do and act like they're in a rush and in a moment they're going to work their way around you, but instead they stay right behind you ruining your kicks. RUDE.
@@ThatBlackPiano Wooooow, that's horrible. I can't believe that full grown adults would actually do this sort of thing. I'm sorry you've been dealing or dealt with such bullshit.
We must have lived in different Koreas. Didn't have any issues and I'm dark skinned Filipino-American. Didn't see even a remotely violent incident in my entire time there except one shoving match outside of a club, little kids walked around at night alone, and there are cameras everywhere. Can't even imagine how there would be "public abuse"? Definitely not to any extent worth mentioning as an issue. Stationed there for 3 years. Sounds made up tbh. Where do you live?
Great. Now lets talk about racism and discrimination
It doesn't make sense that Koreans don't have individuality. I lived in San Francisco at U.S. for three years, and I thought Koreans were much more unique in their clothes, especially when compared to American men. The reason that they think koreans don't have their personality because they're just all Asians.
These people acting like they have not witnessed racism in their country.These are the type of people who appear as victims to gain views but in reality the actual bullies
That is nothing try being a black/Indian foreigner so different
these problems aren’t make or breaks for people really. there’s bigger problems that are always talked about
Though korea is well developed country but still the mindset of many koreans are toxic and that to for the foreigners...I'm Indian and I was way very appreciative towards korean and korean culture because of some indian youtubers and kpop but as I am getting to know the real side of korea m very shocked and not all of the koreans are like the but many of them are racist and differentiate between their people and other people especially old aged people but I wish the coming youth of korean becomes good people compared to now..
The racism in korea is real. They tend to stay in the same group and keep to themselves. Inferiority complex buds and makes them exclude people of not the same race or acceptable to them. The beauty standards were just too much. They don’t even realize it that being different is a gift in itself. Diversity is beautiful. I think Koreans should be more accepting and I hope they grow to embrace differences.
I really appreciate how honest everyone was and their were really respectful as well love your content!!
I love to visit Kore for vacation but I'd never want to live there. Europe is just so much better in my opinion.
I’m glad they touched on the extremely important topic of some people wearing long padding. Especially in such a short video, it’s good to really hone in on the most pressing things. I hope one day people can wear more diverse coats. That will really solve all the problems foreigners have here I think.
foreigners do not care Koreans did surgery or not to make themselves good appearance. but some should not discriminate to others by beauty standard.
I’m not Korean but I have went to Korea with my friends Bcs they are Korean and I’m half Asian and ofc I’m a foreigner and I was not a victim of racism but my friends heard some Koreans talking crab about this middle eastern (I think he was M.E) and they said some messed up Shit.
Koreans do look down on Chinese , indians and other southeast Asians.... Koreans curse a lot on them
Its wrong to say koreans don't have individuality. Most americans just wear jeans and tshirts, and basic clothes. Koreans at least know how to dress well. P.s. would love to see a video about foreigners who love living in S. Korea.
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@@qrcd 😐
@@qrcd Just keep that in mind. as you think to us, "Korean fashion is just the same!" It means we feel the same way about you.
I feel like bullying would run rampant if everyone focuses so much on looks and connections.
It does though. Bullying in South Korea is next level
It is still a big problem that never get fixed in korea✨
@@crystalo1186 how?
like in usa people from black areas are walking to school with weapons
knifes , dumbbells, brast knuckles and even electro shockers ) and sometimes guns
just the fact that you have to carry weapons to school is a sing that place where you study is not very safe
does anything remotely bad happening in korea?
korea has a reputation for being super safe country where you can go walk at 3am night and nothing will happened to you
or leave your phone in cafe and come back 6 hours later the phone will still be theare
so how country be super safe but bullying next Leven ? does this make sense to anybody ?
I assume they watching too much k drama
like do you know that most bullied countries in Europe are Lithuania Austria and Swisserland ?
probably not because it never mentioned anywhere
there usually 1-2 videos on RUclips
but if its about korea there are thousands of videos about it
why ? its popular to talk about
@@crystalo1186 where are you getting your information from? Fake bullying accusations
? Korea isn’t even in the top countries with the most bullying, most of them are from Europe.
@@loisbalogh1605 I know
if I remember correctly most bullying in Europe are Lithuania Austria and Swisserland
however when I looked on internet about bullying in these 3 countries there are like 4-5 videos max
but when I looked at korea there are thousands videos
like I think its just popular to talk about it
I want to know what Koreans who lived abroad think of those respective countries.