I really don't like how they mixed Floors vocals tbh. They are lost underneath the layers of instruments.. shame though cause I like the song!! This is an improvement!!
Loving the song but while listening to it, I was like : Nightwish Arena gotta remaster it like he always does. Well, that didn't take long... Thx a lot mate.
Nightwish Arena is by far the best audio enhancer of Nightwish songs on YT. Check out the amazing magic that they have done with the live recordings as well.
@@NightwishArena Thanks a lot Nightwish Arena for this much better re-mix. Like most NW fans I was so looking forward to this release...and then I heard the truly awful mix of the original, with Floor's voice almost completely buried, it was near impossible to make out the words to even one single line she was singing, which is kinda ironic as Tuomas's lyrics are so important to the song and concept. You commented that you thought if anything you should've maybe lifted her vocals even a touch more - and I agree!! Anyway, thank you once again for making a great song sound much better. Yours is now my go-to version. You rock! 👍🤘
I think what i enjoy about this version in particular isnt just that floor is louder, but the whole song feels less muted. The original never felt like it was fully using my headphones
I think Tuomas wanted Floors voice to represent all of our ancestry's like a muffled sound. I'm sure the other tracks will have her more upfront, well I hope. Great job though.
I can't get over how astonishing(perfect is truly an understatement) her voice at the chorus is... She's a category a whole another dimension on her own. There are no words enough to describe our Floor🌷.
Love your work!! I appreciate the re-mix because many people don't like the original. ~~Kai Hahto though said: "she is part of the coir. It is not meant to be super loud in the chorus. Just part of all the voices. Some people don't like it that way but it is what it is." ~~ Just for y'all to know ;)
We have a family book that goes back to the 12th. century to The Netherlands.A book of more than 200 pages of our ancestors, I am in that book too. My aunt researched for more than 30 years our family. It is quite amazing to read.
Second time I have listened to this now - and as a singer myself, I loved how much easier it was to actually pick out the lyrics AND the sung notes this time.
👍Well done,not overdone,just some more clarity on Floor's epic voice. I think it's a fantastic song and video,Tuomas as producer,over-produced a bit,in my opinion,but hey,as i always believe with this band,Nightwish is best served live,it will be a banger.🤘
I'm grateful that they did their video in 21:9 format, it really comes to life on my widescreen monitor. Too bad it was "only" in 1080p. I guess we'll have to wait for the actual Bluray discs for 4K screen resolutions.
Yes, now you can hear Floor nice and clear 👍 ... but I do prefer the original because the music is so very complex. You can't fully take in wonderful, masterful layers of the music itself if the vocals are on top. I guess what I'm trying to say, after reading many, many complaints about the mix is to appreciate the music (choir, instrumental, symphony, animal sounds) and therefore the vision of our maestro ❤
I understand what you are saying, but I also disagree. For me the song went from very good to awesome after lifting the vocals. It's still not quite like GLS, TPATP or TGSOE, but it's still a masterpiece. If we want to listen to the orchestra in full glory, we will get our chance when the album is released.
And I always thought that it was Tarja's singing that was hard to understand - perhaps it was Tuomas all along! He made things hard to understand - not her!
Have you done this to all the albums? Especially Once? I love that album, but it would be so much better if the vocals were made clearer like you have done here.
I actually have album remasters too, but I'm not sure if they are any better, because I haven't published them. Probably I wasn't completely satisfied with those (or I thought I will perfect them later). I need to check them out.
Unless you are a Ayreon fan you probably haven't heard Floor sing this - ruclips.net/video/TbebO5BZi-I/видео.html And up the volume with this - plus Marko - more Ayreon - Floor in full soprano. ruclips.net/video/aci08VQ4ch4/видео.html
@@NightwishArena I was surprised to find out that this simple method works. I would have expected to hear more high frequency audio artefacts for this kind of process. Great work!
@@MikkoRantalainen of course there is something else too, like a tons of eq for the stem, and trying to lift the vocals on original track. And not trying to make stem too isolated, it's going back to mix anyway. Just pick the one which has less artifacts. I'm sure there are easier methods which gives even better results.
Not the only one. Her voice is way too out front for me here. It’s overtaken the music. The only part of the song where her voice was even slightly low was the one part of the chorus but once you know the lyrics you hear every word just fine.
Of course you have right to like the original more, but for me it sounded bad...and I'm not alone with this opinion. It is totally different to lift vocals afterwards, than if they would have done it in the mixing phase. Now the vocals are competing with orchestra, and it sounds a bit chaotic. I'm still pretty happy with my versions.
@@NightwishArena Dude, this isn't a criticism leveled at you, clearly most people didn't like the mix on the original version and I'm sure appreciate what you did. I just wanted to throw my two cents in and say that I prefer the original mix, after all, mixing tastes are largely subjective.
@@NightwishArena no disrespect to you. I see and hear what ppl are talking about. Just saying for me once I knew the lyrics the mix was fine. It’s obvious many people appreciate the time and effort you put into this remixing. Regardless of which mix ppl like the song is awesome.
It's unfortunate that only copyright owners can make copyright claims. Reaction videos are a different matter and should not be blocked, but all streaming income from these videos should go to the artist of the original content. In this case artist loses streaming income. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
All the streaming income from my videos goes to artist and label. RUclips has a ContentID system, which recognizes the songs and make copyright claims automatically.
I do wonder, if anyone can answer....WHy on earth would they mix the song so Floors vocals are drowned in the music? I mean...its not like they are amatures they work with to mix their music. I would imagien someone during that process must have noticed that
Try listening the official song with high quality headphones vs low quality speakers. For some reason they decided to mix the audio so that you have to use really good speaker setup to correctly play the audio. With high quality audio setup, you can clearly hear Floor in the original mix but with anything less than stellar audio setup, it all goes to mess. I guess they only used high quality studio monitors while mixing the official song.
@@Honken55 Having a better Vocal Mix wouldn't make it more Mainstream, plus Mainstream isn't a bad thing, Nightwish are absolutely massive and headline arenas around the world, they're pretty much as mainstream as it gets when it comes to Symphonic Metal, this whole "Mainstream = Bad" attitude that people have is weird, so many Metal bands that are huge and loved around the world have been mainstream at points in their career
@@Venombullet666 Well as this mixing is part of his idea of the song I realy doubt he wiill change it lol He did the same on Century Child with Tarja....
Thank you for Lifting the floor, but the Problems are not even the vocals, also the kick drum with too much Low end. The Hihats are also too Low. I really Love Nightwish and I Love this Song and I know Tuomas is a Genius, so I do Not know how Theese mistakes can Happen.
Of course these are matter of taste, but for me the biggest issue was the vocals. Unfortunately there is no way I can lift only vocals without altering the whole mix, so it kind of ruins the rest of the mix, but in overall I'm happier with lifted vocals.
@@NightwishArena You have done a good Job It is Not your Turn to fix all the mistakes. And there are more. I am also a Producer, well known. J. Ross is Not m real Name. I am far away of being a Genius Like Tuomas but I am asking myself, how this could Happen in this Niveau.
I don`t believe so. They just made a contract, re-sign with Nuclear Blast and Tuomas has said that if Floor leaves, no Nightwish anymore. Why they would do that contract if Floor is leaving?
![Nightwish - Perfume of the Timeless (Instrumental Unofficial / Background Vocals) [CC Lyrics]](/img/1.gif)
Nightwish can better hire you as sound technician.
I was afraid I lifted the vocals too much, but now I'm thinking I should have lifted them even more. At least they are now audible.
Thank you :D as always great to have you around here on YT :)
Feel free to do a 2.0 version with the single version (meaning without the music video sound effects) and even louder vocals. Can't hurt... 😁
I really don't like how they mixed Floors vocals tbh. They are lost underneath the layers of instruments.. shame though cause I like the song!! This is an improvement!!
Thank you so much, our Floor🌷 deserves only the best.
I think this is really good as-is.
Loving the song but while listening to it, I was like : Nightwish Arena gotta remaster it like he always does. Well, that didn't take long... Thx a lot mate.
Nightwish Arena is by far the best audio enhancer of Nightwish songs on YT. Check out the amazing magic that they have done with the live recordings as well.
Thanks 😇
@@NightwishArena Thanks a lot Nightwish Arena for this much better re-mix. Like most NW fans I was so looking forward to this release...and then I heard the truly awful mix of the original, with Floor's voice almost completely buried, it was near impossible to make out the words to even one single line she was singing, which is kinda ironic as Tuomas's lyrics are so important to the song and concept. You commented that you thought if anything you should've maybe lifted her vocals even a touch more - and I agree!! Anyway, thank you once again for making a great song sound much better. Yours is now my go-to version. You rock! 👍🤘
One thing I should mention is mix aside, this video is friggin’ incredible.
The video seems to be the official video for this song so no changes there.
I think what i enjoy about this version in particular isnt just that floor is louder, but the whole song feels less muted.
The original never felt like it was fully using my headphones
THIS should be the original version...thanks a lot.
Love to hear Floor loud and clear. I hate it when they bury the vocals. They used to do it with Tarja particularly on Century Child
They mixed Tarja behind the instruments
I think Tuomas wanted Floors voice to represent all of our ancestry's like a muffled sound. I'm sure the other tracks will have her more upfront, well I hope. Great job though.
Another masterpiece...both music and visuals. uncomparable to other bands...
Listening this yours Tribute To Floor Edition on repeat. Kiitos for your effort
I can't get over how astonishing(perfect is truly an understatement) her voice at the chorus is... She's a category a whole another dimension on her own. There are no words enough to describe our Floor🌷.
Much better, thanks 😃
Damn that was fast lmao In my opinion it sounds better this way
Wow I love it with Floor clearer. That was very quick btw! Only a few hours!
Love your work!! I appreciate the re-mix because many people don't like the original. ~~Kai Hahto though said: "she is part of the coir. It is not meant to be super loud in the chorus. Just part of all the voices. Some people don't like it that way but it is what it is." ~~ Just for y'all to know ;)
not true, the chorus Floor main voice should stand out, it is not a choir chorus , Floors still the main
@@remagine No, they intended to even her out with the choir. So that they are both equally loud.
You never gonna give us up
Thank you mate
Nightwish pięknie 🖤❤️
Great work,it should be against the law to subdue Floor's voice!
Arena, thank you for value-adding this tune. My initial underwhelming impression is gone. Perfect job.
We have a family book that goes back to the 12th. century to The Netherlands.A book of more than 200 pages of our ancestors, I am in that book too. My aunt researched for more than 30 years our family. It is quite amazing to read.
WOW!
12th century ? Or 1200, can't have both.
@@patverum9051 12th century, in Finnish we write 1200- century.
Second time I have listened to this now - and as a singer myself, I loved how much easier it was to actually pick out the lyrics AND the sung notes this time.
Thank you, this is definitely the superior version.
Excellent. Suppressing Floor's voice, diabolical. Thanks for this version. Now I like the song.🥰👍
Amazing as usual...
Wow, great release you made fornow it is even better than the Nightwish release. Sound is better and the viuals wow superb.
Thank you, thank you, thank you !!!!!!!!
I like how you got her vocals out where they should be. They are not too far forward and not lost in the mix. Excellent work.
Fair enough 👍
Yeah they're little bit quiet in the mix of original release
Appreciated ❣👍
Ahhhh this! Now i can hear her clearly! Thank you! Awesome job!
👍Well done,not overdone,just some more clarity on Floor's epic voice. I think it's a fantastic song and video,Tuomas as producer,over-produced a bit,in my opinion,but hey,as i always believe with this band,Nightwish is best served live,it will be a banger.🤘
Yeah- that's better!
THX GOD
Way much better edition now!! Thank you to hear your fans!! 😍👍🤘🤘🤘
Just a reminder, I am only a fan, and I am in no way part of the band or management.
you just saved the single lol, loved the song but not the mix
Great job again! Thank you for doing this!
Thanks for this!👍🤘
5:41 my favourite part! 🤘🏼🔥🔥🔥
Nice - this mix is amazing. Thank you so much
Thank you thank you thank you
I'm grateful that they did their video in 21:9 format, it really comes to life on my widescreen monitor.
Too bad it was "only" in 1080p. I guess we'll have to wait for the actual Bluray discs for 4K screen resolutions.
Yes, now you can hear Floor nice and clear 👍 ... but I do prefer the original because the music is so very complex. You can't fully take in wonderful, masterful layers of the music itself if the vocals are on top. I guess what I'm trying to say, after reading many, many complaints about the mix is to appreciate the music (choir, instrumental, symphony, animal sounds) and therefore the vision of our maestro ❤
I understand what you are saying, but I also disagree. For me the song went from very good to awesome after lifting the vocals. It's still not quite like GLS, TPATP or TGSOE, but it's still a masterpiece. If we want to listen to the orchestra in full glory, we will get our chance when the album is released.
Thanks a lot ❤
And I always thought that it was Tarja's singing that was hard to understand - perhaps it was Tuomas all along! He made things hard to understand - not her!
Gosh. I though my computer had a problem because I couldn't hear floor's voice. What a bad mix they did. Thank you for sharing this!!!
Way to go....thanks🤘
Definite improvement. All a matter of personal taste, of course. Beethoven did four versions of his Leonore overture, and they're all good.
NEW 4K VERSION on my channel! It is also without sound effects, and vocals are even clearer.
ruclips.net/video/8MzLwRo72EM/видео.html
Thanks much better
You did a good job. I can hear Floors voice much better in this one! It did blend in with the music a little too much. 😬
Wow, you're fast :D
👏
Have you done this to all the albums? Especially Once? I love that album, but it would be so much better if the vocals were made clearer like you have done here.
I actually have album remasters too, but I'm not sure if they are any better, because I haven't published them. Probably I wasn't completely satisfied with those (or I thought I will perfect them later). I need to check them out.
"Hey artist, you are wrong"
Finally, at least someone appreciates Floor's vocals. The official release has disgusting sound mixing. You did better. Thank you.
Unless you are a Ayreon fan you probably haven't heard Floor sing this -
ruclips.net/video/TbebO5BZi-I/видео.html
And up the volume with this - plus Marko - more Ayreon - Floor in full soprano.
ruclips.net/video/aci08VQ4ch4/видео.html
Is there a way to download this in high quality?
4K downloader
Could you tell more details about how did you re-mix this? Do you use some software such as Melodyne to separate audio and then remix it?
Basically I just separated the vocal track (x-minus.pro), and added it on top of original, then adjusted the volumes.
@@NightwishArena I was surprised to find out that this simple method works. I would have expected to hear more high frequency audio artefacts for this kind of process. Great work!
@@MikkoRantalainen of course there is something else too, like a tons of eq for the stem, and trying to lift the vocals on original track. And not trying to make stem too isolated, it's going back to mix anyway. Just pick the one which has less artifacts. I'm sure there are easier methods which gives even better results.
I supoose I'll be the contrary opinion here and state that I vastly prefer the original version.
Not the only one. Her voice is way too out front for me here. It’s overtaken the music. The only part of the song where her voice was even slightly low was the one part of the chorus but once you know the lyrics you hear every word just fine.
Of course you have right to like the original more, but for me it sounded bad...and I'm not alone with this opinion. It is totally different to lift vocals afterwards, than if they would have done it in the mixing phase. Now the vocals are competing with orchestra, and it sounds a bit chaotic. I'm still pretty happy with my versions.
@@NightwishArena Dude, this isn't a criticism leveled at you, clearly most people didn't like the mix on the original version and I'm sure appreciate what you did. I just wanted to throw my two cents in and say that I prefer the original mix, after all, mixing tastes are largely subjective.
@@NightwishArena no disrespect to you. I see and hear what ppl are talking about. Just saying for me once I knew the lyrics the mix was fine. It’s obvious many people appreciate the time and effort you put into this remixing. Regardless of which mix ppl like the song is awesome.
Do you need some professional level software/equipment to do this in this quality?
No. Any multitrack DAW will do the trick, and there are tons of free plugins and software to separate vocal track.
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It's unfortunate that only copyright owners can make copyright claims. Reaction videos are a different matter and should not be blocked, but all streaming income from these videos should go to the artist of the original content. In this case artist loses streaming income.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
All the streaming income from my videos goes to artist and label. RUclips has a ContentID system, which recognizes the songs and make copyright claims automatically.
@@NightwishArena Thanks. I stand corrected.
I do wonder, if anyone can answer....WHy on earth would they mix the song so Floors vocals are drowned in the music? I mean...its not like they are amatures they work with to mix their music. I would imagien someone during that process must have noticed that
Try listening the official song with high quality headphones vs low quality speakers. For some reason they decided to mix the audio so that you have to use really good speaker setup to correctly play the audio. With high quality audio setup, you can clearly hear Floor in the original mix but with anything less than stellar audio setup, it all goes to mess.
I guess they only used high quality studio monitors while mixing the official song.
@@MikkoRantalainen I think that is the real downside of Genelec speakers/monitors. They are too good.
@@NightwishArena A good pair of headphones is even more accurate than Genelec monitors but luckily I have both.
Its by choice. Kai told yhe story in an interview. Floor is part of the choir, not suppose to stand out. Artistic choice....
@@Honken55 yes, but this seems a weird choice because now most people just think that it's a bad mix.
Wheres the lyrics?
Turn on subtitles
Nightwish should scrap the version they uploaded and go with this instead haha
Its an artistic choice. You seeing Tuomas leaving his artistic side for more mainstream? I dont.... 😉
@@Honken55 Having a better Vocal Mix wouldn't make it more Mainstream, plus Mainstream isn't a bad thing, Nightwish are absolutely massive and headline arenas around the world, they're pretty much as mainstream as it gets when it comes to Symphonic Metal, this whole "Mainstream = Bad" attitude that people have is weird, so many Metal bands that are huge and loved around the world have been mainstream at points in their career
@@Venombullet666 Well as this mixing is part of his idea of the song I realy doubt he wiill change it lol
He did the same on Century Child with Tarja....
Thank you for Lifting the floor, but the Problems are not even the vocals, also the kick drum with too much Low end. The Hihats are also too Low. I really Love Nightwish and I Love this Song and I know Tuomas is a Genius, so I do Not know how Theese mistakes can Happen.
Of course these are matter of taste, but for me the biggest issue was the vocals. Unfortunately there is no way I can lift only vocals without altering the whole mix, so it kind of ruins the rest of the mix, but in overall I'm happier with lifted vocals.
@@NightwishArena You have done a good Job It is Not your Turn to fix all the mistakes. And there are more. I am also a Producer, well known. J. Ross is Not m real Name. I am far away of being a Genius Like Tuomas but I am asking myself, how this could Happen in this Niveau.
What about Floor? Did she leave the group? There are some rumors...
I don`t believe so. They just made a contract, re-sign with Nuclear Blast and Tuomas has said that if Floor leaves, no Nightwish anymore. Why they would do that contract if Floor is leaving?
I'm glad hearing that... Nigtwish is Floor, Floor is Nightwish... Tuomas is also right about his opinion regarding Floor....