That is still amazing. I think nobody is expecting that the reconstruction from 1080p has no cost. People who uses this is not expecting to uqve same performance than a native 1080p. They want better performance than at native 4k with most of the same image quality. People who play at 4k knows what they are doing
I think it could be interesting to compare something like 1080p DLAA with 1440p DLSS. Also, even if it is not the focus of the video, it would be nice to see the fps counter at all times to roughly compare, at least on the videos. P.S.: Surprised how well 1080p holds up in Spiderman. Doesn't look bad at all.
are you aware about the dldsr feature of in the nvidia control panel? with it we can make a 1440p panel as 4k and use this 4k performance mode on a 1440p display, but im wondering which will win in this scenario as the dldsr isnt as good as a physical display with 4k resolution . try making a video comparing dldsr with native 1080p or 1440p displays
Nice vid. Just judging by image quality 4k is the way to go, however there is still the matter of costs and framerate, as high framerate 4k monitors are kinda expensive. People gaming on a budget typically go for 1440p or 1080p even.
The prices have fallen down quite a lot recently, I've seen some 4K monitors with 144hz and even 240hz refresh rates for 450.500 which is starting to resemble high refresh rate 1440p prices.
I was wondering if you'd try dlss tweaks and start comparing custom input resolutions. I had the idea of, since 1440p quality is 960p input resolution. Maybe you could try the same 960p to 4K, and see if it's worth it over the 1080p input (the fps gain and if the fidelity loss is not much). Especially with the newest DLL and Preset E. Or if a game isn't that taxing until 4K DLAA, I do 0.90 input resolution. Looks to my eye basically the same as DLAA, but a decent FPS bump.
@@extremegraphicstech Oh, thx! Was already subbed. :D Another good idea, maybe even better (IMHO) might be to compare image quality and performance between DLSS and FSR, in a way that DLSS balanced/performance sometimes gives better image than FSR quality. That is an actual, huge FPS boost in favor of nvidia, when you need that extra bit of power the most. Haven't seen other youtubers do that kind of comparison. Might be nice to see. Cheers.
Great video mate, you’ve earned a sub 😁, I’ve just built a pc 7800x3d 32gb, just not decided on the gpu, I was thinking of getting a monitor, but I might stick with my LG C1 and go 4K with Dlss, very helpful video 👌😉👍
@@extremegraphicstech Yes, I tried that app, but it doesn't scale the images properly with each other so, at least for me. So you really can't properly analyze them. How do you get yours to work?
@@SupremacyGamesYT When taking videos or screenshots is better to do it with the game in Windowes fullscreen so it will always be the same resolution. In case your screenshots are different resolutions in iCAT next to the image or video you have a cogwheel to "resize" the image and make both the same size
Well is hard to say, what does it mean to have a texture at 4K to be honest? does every textures need to be that high? what about VRAM usage then? is not so simple.
@extremegraphicstech yes, more vram. There are countless games that have community made 4k texture packs because the company never made them. Now, are they 4k? I don't know, but they are more detailed and use more vram.
More pixels always win, in 1080p we have 2.073.600 pixels. in 1440p we have 3.686.400 and in 4k we have 8.294.400 pixels, only problem is the cash we need to have a 4k monitor with at least more than 85hz and minimum 32´´ to have a very good experience, not just the 60fps, thats around 500 bucks, a good gpu even with upscaling tech in 4k we need power from the gpu, minimum 700 for 4k dlss/fsr 70-80 fps on heavy games, but if you are not from "south america" like me its worth to play at 4k, the quality is amazing.
@@farisakhtar4824 It's ok, you can feel satisfied with your personal choice, i'm good with my "2k" monitor, but of course when i get the chance go for 4k, when i say more pixels always is better, really is, more pixels, more quality, more details, i don't say is "mandatory" go to maximum resolution, this is your choice, that i saying is more pixels always is better in graphic fidelity and this is a fact, is irrefutable
@@andresreacher8790 I'm satisfied with my 32inch 1440p monitor. It produces an image that is clearly more than 1080p, so that is enough for me. My brother has a 4k monitor at the same size, and the difference is there but not as much as 1080p to 1440p. He even though my monitor was 4k when I first got it and he used it. As a lot of games render on console at 1440p anyway, they can look better on my monitor as it's native resolution.
@@extremegraphicstech oh im sorry, bcoz im new in here, thats mean if my monitor is 4k? N play games with 1080/1440 p thats mean the graphic would be detail in monitor 4k or would be blurry? Thankyou
@@extremegraphicstech Yo you understand well this things. Sorry to ask, but... If I have a full HD 27 monitor, and I want to record gameplay in 4k. If I use DLDSR/DSR to record the screen in 4k, will the result be the same as if I were using a native 4k 27 monitor? (I speak for the final result of the video) Or would the ideal be to record in FULL HD and upscale to 4K? than send to YOuTube
@andreknox6132 no by using dldsr or dsr you will record at your native resolution because the final image is downsampled to whatever is your output and there is no point on recording at 1080p and then blowing the image at 4k
Thanks god somebody now explain a low brain people why 4k is better, i really don't understand people who tell me about 0 difference between 27 1440p and 27 4k
He is showing zoomed in images, depending on how big your tv is you might not see a big difference, also the gaming experience won't change that much thats why some people say it. I'm pro any kind of progress, even with the playstation pro(which some see as useless). So the gaming experience might nog change, getting everything ready for 4k is the next step in gaming it helps the gaming industry.
Dude, you are honestly just hanging on what you can now, now is camera movement when normally everything is very blurry anyway, with ghosty lcd panels that doesn't have the best of motion clarity? Your eyes will not be able to see any big difference during fast paced or camera movements anyway with or without dlss. And no, you didn't meant that, you specifically said "analyzed through motion" there is motion examples, full of trees, particles and other objects moving, but now is not enough.
Native resolutions all the way!!! No matter if its 1080p, 1440p or 4k, nothing will compare to having the correct hardware to put out the resolution you wants without any scaling or fake resolution technology
@@audie-cashstack-uk4881 if you have lets say a 4060 wich is a 1080p and you want to play in 2k then yes, thats actually what those tec’s are for, but if you have the propper gpu to put out 2k resolution then you dont need any upscaler bullshit and its going to look and perform better
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thats kinda crazy, it’s noticeably more clear & at performance
its amazing until you find out 4k dlss performance performance is much heavier than native 1080p probably even more taxing than native 1440p
That is still amazing. I think nobody is expecting that the reconstruction from 1080p has no cost.
People who uses this is not expecting to uqve same performance than a native 1080p.
They want better performance than at native 4k with most of the same image quality.
People who play at 4k knows what they are doing
@@paulojamesminimoisaac7858 Wouldn't you get more fps from 4k dlss performance compared to the 1440p native?
@@ElmorQuistin that's what usually the tests show. People get more fps at 4k performance than 1440p native
@@ElmorQuistin yes. For example my 6900 xt in Ghost of Tsushima with 2k native drains 290-330 watts, when 4k perf I get 240-280 watts.
@for 75Hz
I think it could be interesting to compare something like 1080p DLAA with 1440p DLSS.
Also, even if it is not the focus of the video, it would be nice to see the fps counter at all times to roughly compare, at least on the videos.
P.S.: Surprised how well 1080p holds up in Spiderman. Doesn't look bad at all.
Thank you man ! You really understand my needs
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Oh wow thanks for the kind words
Really detailed real life performance test. Thank you so much.
Thank you!
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are you aware about the dldsr feature of in the nvidia control panel? with it we can make a 1440p panel as 4k and use this 4k performance mode on a 1440p display, but im wondering which will win in this scenario as the dldsr isnt as good as a physical display with 4k resolution . try making a video comparing dldsr with native 1080p or 1440p displays
exactly what i was looking for :) Thank you
You are welcome!
Thank you for the video. It would be interesting to add 4k native to the samples.
What is the performance difference between the versions?
Nice vid. Just judging by image quality 4k is the way to go, however there is still the matter of costs and framerate, as high framerate 4k monitors are kinda expensive. People gaming on a budget typically go for 1440p or 1080p even.
The prices have fallen down quite a lot recently, I've seen some 4K monitors with 144hz and even 240hz refresh rates for 450.500 which is starting to resemble high refresh rate 1440p prices.
People play switch 2 on tvs wel come to the future
This is all great, but I'm wondering what the performance cost is. Less FPS? More VRAM use? VRAM is in short supply these days.
Will be running fine on switch 2
I was wondering if you'd try dlss tweaks and start comparing custom input resolutions.
I had the idea of, since 1440p quality is 960p input resolution. Maybe you could try the same 960p to 4K, and see if it's worth it over the 1080p input (the fps gain and if the fidelity loss is not much). Especially with the newest DLL and Preset E.
Or if a game isn't that taxing until 4K DLAA, I do 0.90 input resolution. Looks to my eye basically the same as DLAA, but a decent FPS bump.
I have a 1440p monitor, do you recommend playing on 4K DLDSR + DLSS Performance?
if gpu 3080 or above yes. if no, no
@@tadejloncarMy 3070 is running 4k pretty well.
@@jeanmichel805Depends on what games and how many fps you want. For example a 3050 can do 4k60 ish with appropriate settings.
nice video! would love to see in-depth difference in performance between 4k DLSS and 1440p native.
4K dlss at what level of Dlss?
@@extremegraphicstech performance. my bad.
Oki dokie, subscribe and keep and eye on the channel will see what I can do
@@extremegraphicstech Oh, thx! Was already subbed. :D
Another good idea, maybe even better (IMHO) might be to compare image quality and performance between DLSS and FSR, in a way that DLSS balanced/performance sometimes gives better image than FSR quality. That is an actual, huge FPS boost in favor of nvidia, when you need that extra bit of power the most. Haven't seen other youtubers do that kind of comparison. Might be nice to see. Cheers.
He said that fps in 4k dlls_p is about the same as 1440p native, but it can vary from one game to another
Great video mate, you’ve earned a sub 😁, I’ve just built a pc 7800x3d 32gb, just not decided on the gpu, I was thinking of getting a monitor, but I might stick with my LG C1 and go 4K with Dlss, very helpful video 👌😉👍
Thank you so much
Your Welcome 👍@@extremegraphicstech
enjoyed the test.
What software did you use to compair screenshots like that? ty
Icat from nvidia
@@extremegraphicstech Yes, I tried that app, but it doesn't scale the images properly with each other so, at least for me. So you really can't properly analyze them. How do you get yours to work?
It does scale properly
@@extremegraphicstech Yea I have no idea what's the problem with it, I've tried both various images and videos, this is silly.
@@SupremacyGamesYT When taking videos or screenshots is better to do it with the game in Windowes fullscreen so it will always be the same resolution. In case your screenshots are different resolutions in iCAT next to the image or video you have a cogwheel to "resize" the image and make both the same size
I prefer 4K + DLSS
Try on some multyplayer games still not usable better stay off dlss if play mp especially first person shooters.
I want to get 4k but I don't know if I should leave 1080p 27inch with maximum raytracing and 144hz in all games
What about 1440p with DLSS quality? Shimmering should be gone?
Do Native 1440p OLED upscaled to 4k vs 4K IPS DLSS performance please 🙏🏽
???? That makes no sense these are direct gpu capture
Do you think it is also that a lot of these games don't even have 4k textures and what not?
Well is hard to say, what does it mean to have a texture at 4K to be honest? does every textures need to be that high? what about VRAM usage then? is not so simple.
@extremegraphicstech yes, more vram. There are countless games that have community made 4k texture packs because the company never made them. Now, are they 4k? I don't know, but they are more detailed and use more vram.
More pixels always win, in 1080p we have 2.073.600 pixels. in 1440p we have 3.686.400 and in 4k we have 8.294.400 pixels, only problem is the cash we need to have a 4k monitor with at least more than 85hz and minimum 32´´ to have a very good experience, not just the 60fps, thats around 500 bucks, a good gpu even with upscaling tech in 4k we need power from the gpu, minimum 700 for 4k dlss/fsr 70-80 fps on heavy games, but if you are not from "south america" like me its worth to play at 4k, the quality is amazing.
More pixels isn't always better, some people are satisfied with 1440p, some are satisfied with 1080p.
@@farisakhtar4824 It's ok, you can feel satisfied with your personal choice, i'm good with my "2k" monitor, but of course when i get the chance go for 4k, when i say more pixels always is better, really is, more pixels, more quality, more details, i don't say is "mandatory" go to maximum resolution, this is your choice, that i saying is more pixels always is better in graphic fidelity and this is a fact, is irrefutable
@@andresreacher8790 I'm satisfied with my 32inch 1440p monitor. It produces an image that is clearly more than 1080p, so that is enough for me. My brother has a 4k monitor at the same size, and the difference is there but not as much as 1080p to 1440p. He even though my monitor was 4k when I first got it and he used it. As a lot of games render on console at 1440p anyway, they can look better on my monitor as it's native resolution.
Good to know have 4k oled
This comparison using monitor 4k or 2k? Thankyou
Why do people ask the monitor? This has nothing to do with monitors
@@extremegraphicstech oh im sorry, bcoz im new in here, thats mean if my monitor is 4k? N play games with 1080/1440 p thats mean the graphic would be detail in monitor 4k or would be blurry? Thankyou
@nathanaelrolando4470 that will depend on the monitor and their upscale quality, but these are sirect feed capture it has no relation to the monitor
Hay algo que no entiendo, el juego está corriendo realmente a qué resolución? 1440p reescalado a 4k? o 1080p reescalado a 4k?
1080p to 4K
You used 1444p monitor and DLDSR to 4k in the 1444p NATIVE? or i wrong
Wrong. Besides the monitor used here is irrelevant
why @@extremegraphicstech
Because I am recording footage straight from the gpu
@@extremegraphicstech Yo you understand well this things.
Sorry to ask, but...
If I have a full HD 27 monitor, and I want to record gameplay in 4k.
If I use DLDSR/DSR to record the screen in 4k, will the result be the same as if I were using a native 4k 27 monitor?
(I speak for the final result of the video)
Or would the ideal be to record in FULL HD and upscale to 4K? than send to YOuTube
@andreknox6132 no by using dldsr or dsr you will record at your native resolution because the final image is downsampled to whatever is your output and there is no point on recording at 1080p and then blowing the image at 4k
Thanks god somebody now explain a low brain people why 4k is better, i really don't understand people who tell me about 0 difference between 27 1440p and 27 4k
He is showing zoomed in images, depending on how big your tv is you might not see a big difference, also the gaming experience won't change that much thats why some people say it. I'm pro any kind of progress, even with the playstation pro(which some see as useless). So the gaming experience might nog change, getting everything ready for 4k is the next step in gaming it helps the gaming industry.
your videos are amazing
Oh wow thanks for those kind words
What kind of fps difference is there?
Nice video . I need you make more video show FPS😊
4K DLSS Performance is just to not say 1080p. That's it.
how is the fps ?
In my case, 4K DLSS on quality, gives same fps as 1440p native.
@@Ballek0 i was wondering if 4k performance will be better than 1080p native
Thanks for the video sir
the fps difference would be nice
👍
The pic is better on 4k p but it’s not 4 or 2 times better than 2k & 1080p 👀
This is not a good comparison because you're comparing things frozen as screeshots, This technology needs to be analyzed through motion.
You clearly didn’t watch the video
@@extremegraphicstech What I mostly mean is the fast camera movements. But thank you for the clarification.
Dude, you are honestly just hanging on what you can now, now is camera movement when normally everything is very blurry anyway, with ghosty lcd panels that doesn't have the best of motion clarity?
Your eyes will not be able to see any big difference during fast paced or camera movements anyway with or without dlss.
And no, you didn't meant that, you specifically said "analyzed through motion" there is motion examples, full of trees, particles and other objects moving, but now is not enough.
1440p dlss quality its best
it need to test in move, not stable frames, dlss have worse clarity in move
No
Native all day. DLSS still has artifacts.
Native resolutions all the way!!! No matter if its 1080p, 1440p or 4k, nothing will compare to having the correct hardware to put out the resolution you wants without any scaling or fake resolution technology
Bad take but ok
It's clear dlss is superior
@@audie-cashstack-uk4881 if you have lets say a 4060 wich is a 1080p and you want to play in 2k then yes, thats actually what those tec’s are for, but if you have the propper gpu to put out 2k resolution then you dont need any upscaler bullshit and its going to look and perform better
Perform better? That is actually impossible
Lucky you have a 6090. You must have a sh#t gaming experience or your playing old ass games.
Good luck to you 😂
1440p and 1080p is useless
Not really, for competitive gaming you'll need a beefy GPU to max out a 4K monitor's high refresh rate with enough headroom to avoid stutters.
1440p looks great, what are you on?