Well, Jay man, you have turned another unfinished item into a treasure again you are a master at it and you make it sound great. Great plan. Oh I love that swap of the hand that made me laugh very very hard. That was good. Have a good one man.
Hahahaha that's funny! I'll need more practice and a few lessons before that ever happens I'm sure 😊 but thanks for the kind words and for checking in!
I remember back in '80s my local guitar store had quite a few Westone Spectrum guitars in, they were terrible! I think they all had build issues and the some of saddles were as far forward as they would go but were still not intonated, about 5 or 6 years later I noticed they still had the majority of those same guitars on the floor. The Westcreek made me think of those Westones!
@@AndrewAHayes well first run at T-style guitars for a company who has only produced set neck G-style models. Other than a few easily resolvable issues, not bad at all for a first kick at the can. No intonation issues on these. They are easily intonated with lots of forward and rearward adjustments. A lot has changed since the 80s 😉
Another versatile West Creek. Really cool look and sound. The second run should be better, wirh the neck ferrules corrected and proper-sized string trees which are minor quibbles. Happy Canada Day to you and yours, J! Break a leg at that gig!
A how how how, have mercy! Great re- build! Guess we’ll have to call you Magic J from now on.. or Angus J, or,,, Superb video and of course, playing!!💥💪
Love WestCreek’s take on the Tele. They do a great job of adapting classic styles with their own unique design elements. Half the time I just tune in to hear you noodle around. I actually clicked on this one because I was curious how it played. Electronics sound great. But you could make just about any guitar sing. Thanks for another great demo and (as always) for the inspiring jam!
Thanks so much Bill! You're too kind. Just having fun here😄 I agree, Westcreeks take on the T-style, is very interesting. I sent them the videos and if they tweak the minor problems I found, these guitars are going to sell like hotcakes!😁
Another one well done J-Man. Unfortunately for me I've had a setback and now lost control of my Fret hand. I had a minor stroke. I can't even play half as bad as I have before. I'm gonna try to keep on rockin though. All the more reason to keep watching you. You're good motivation.
Ahhhh Rainer, I'm surprised and saddened to hear this!😯🙁 I am however glad to be reading your comment as this means you're still with us and in good spirits!😀 I'll send some prayers your way for a speedy recovery.🙏😎 Take care and stay positive!😃
i think them "bross" saddles made the bridge pup twankier! have jazzmaster style knobs on me tease tele and les paul style knobs on others lol! man i liked that saddle install trick woooo!!!
@@j-man9457 question sir. Were you able to lower the action? If so how? (I recall in your first unboxing you showed it was fairly high... I definitely prefer low action guitars or at least be adjustable)
Neck almost sounds like a bright (old LP) humbucker❤ The mods sound totally worth it. Especially the tone NOBS 😅. Bridge PU i'd probably changed it to a quarterpound, stagered 😊
Man, I looked that up and $199 in the US, that is an amazing guitar for that amount of coin. I am looking for a Tele and this might find a way in to my cart
J-man nice job modding the TT-20! I think the pups sound pretty good. That neck pup is kinda Straty. You need to get the dremel out & grind that switch tip off, haha. Have you seen the Slick brand brass switch tip & knobs at Guitar Fetish? They would look cool with the brass saddles.
I'm not a big fan of Westcreek. That's for sure. But... man this guitar has captured my attention. It's a looker, and just seems like a really cool guitar. I might just have to check one of these out. Might be a cool mod platform. Or not... depending on how it is out of the box. I'd be interested in maybe throwing some sort of hot rail in the bridge, and see what happens. Anyway - it's a cool guitar for sure.
@@andrewscottfoust I'm pretty sure Musiclily is available in the US as well as in Canada. In your Amazon search window just type Musiclily locking tuners and see if anything comes up. I'd be surprised if it didn't....
@@j-man9457 Awesome, I will definitely try those out. I put Hipshots in my 333 but they are a bit pricey I think. I want to replace my trem springs. Is there a standard size or something I should look for? Also, your playing is fantastic!
@@andrewscottfoust hey Thanks man! Nah these are standard size trem springs. Any good set of trem springs should be fine... Not advocating but pretty sure Musiclily have a spring kit available. Inexpensive and probably as good as anything out there😃
Overall, probably not THE most exciting or technically impressive Telecaster-style guitar you’ve ever done, but it’s clearly FAR better than many, including some more expensive ones out there! This one seems very basic but very solid. If it were me, I might consider replacing the neck pickup-it is rather dark sounding for a Tele… But then again, it could go either way. As for the switch: It sounds like it might be similar to the ones sold under the Kaish brand on Amazon-they do seem more solid and have a much better feel than the typical box switches found in many Squier guitars, for example.
Yup, mod and upgrade possibilities on this are limitless hahaha... The switch is not a Kaish, but it could be from the same factory🤔 because it sure feels like one!
Thanks, brother man. I have been waiting for this video. So, the big question... How would you compare the WestCreek TT-20 to the Musi Classic? Not that it really matters since I can't find the Musi Classics anywhere these days, but I am curious.
Good question! As far as playability, weight, comfort and feel goes, very similar. However the Musi Classic is still the more superior guitar as far as features go... The Musi stock has a real blade switch, puretone jack, SS frets, compound radius fretboard, cloth wire pickups, staggered locking tuners and the truss rod wheel adjustment at the bottom of the neck. However the Musi is almost $200 CAD more. So I guess it comes down to what's important to you feature wise😀
@@j-man9457 - That makes sense. Not a truly fair comparison. Do you know of anything on the market that is on the level of the Musi Classic (as those are unavailable, at least here in the US)? I have a Squire 50s CV which I love (in spite of feeling like it wasn’t worth the money as it was around $425 US and I have done a lot of work to it. Swapped out tuners, replaced the nut with a Graphtech, upgraded to brass compensated saddles, and dealt with a lot of fret issues% Alas, I am not exactly happy with the pups. I hate to dump more money into it at this point, but might as well. Not sure what more I would possible need (smile). Is there an easier way to communicate with you than commenting on vids? Not that we know each other like that or anything.
@@TedTalksGuitars Hahaha I have been through that with Squires and Fenders... I can't justify their asking price and then be not happy with it and sink money in it that I'll never get back. People say a budget guitar doesn't hold their value, but a 300$ guitar will always be a 300$ guitar haha I haven't lost money yet hahaha! Here in Canada I don't know of anything that would come close to the-musi features stock out of the box for $485 CAD! Up in the US, I hear fire fly and Leo Jaymz are pretty interesting. I think neck and body wise they may compare to the Musis, but the electronics fall short, but you could change all that! nosaj39@hotmail.com is my email 😃
@@TedTalksGuitars If you’re in the United States and you’re seeking a traditional Telecaster-style guitar, I would recommend the Firefly FFTL. I have one of these, and it’s VERY similar to the Musi Virgo Classic-it has SS frets, roasted maple neck, full size pots, blade-style switch, locking tuners, and heel-mounted wheel-adjusted truss rod. It’s FANTASTIC. It might even be made in the same factory as the Musi guitars… I love mine.
Sounds great, but you have to figure out how to get that switch tip off and change it. The band may not even allow you to play it live, with that switch tip on it.
@@geralddoyle5131 no they are not, but they are Sister companies. I think they are owned by the same person (who ever that is) The headstock a only look the same from far lol. From close they are quite different. I prefer the Musi headstock to Westcreek's! 😃
I thought of that but most ashtrays available here are 4 hole mount across the bottom. This mounts with 3 holes across the bottom and 2 up top at each corner. You'd have to drill additional holes for an ashtray mount and then you'd see the 2 screw holes at the top as the ashtray base plate is shorter than the traditional base plate...
@@j-man9457 I thought the footprint was the same. This is unrelated but I have a Godin Radiator that I hated the bridge on and cut down a Tele bridge to replace it. The thing I never counted on was the difference in thickness. I had to shim the Tele bridge up 1 millimeter with shims I made out of a soda can.
@@j-man9457 The 4 vs 3 screw mount and the bridge/saddle lengths are not the only things you have to worry about. The string-through holes will also be in a different place, and that’s CRUCIAL, not just because you’ll have holes to plug, but because it also affects the break angles over the saddles.
@@zuperdee yeah I've done it before and it worked fine but you have to make sure the string through body holes and the pickup rout line up with both bridge plates and the rest you can fill and re-drill and the intonation will dial in with no issues... On the one I did the break angle wasn't a problem...😃
Well, Jay man, you have turned another unfinished item into a treasure again you are a master at it and you make it sound great. Great plan. Oh I love that swap of the hand that made me laugh very very hard. That was good. Have a good one man.
Hahaha thanks! Palm swipe saddle installations.... Sure is a time saver! What will they think of next???? 🤔😉🤣🤣🤣
I really appreciate that you use guitars & parts that are available in Canada at reasonable cost.
Thanks man! I will always support my country first, but sometimes Trudeau's price list is rediculous hahaha
Awesome job J man. That saddle installation was amazing! You keep em rocking man. Thanks for another excellent video.
Hahaha yeah eh? You gotta love those palm swipes install kits hahaha! 😂
Thanks for checking in!
Great job as usual J, WestCreek should put you on the payroll after making them look so good!
Hahahaha that's funny! I'll need more practice and a few lessons before that ever happens I'm sure 😊 but thanks for the kind words and for checking in!
Thanks for sharing, I just ordered the blue one today. Sweet playing too brother. 🙂🇨🇦
@@jamieremus277 hey no prob man! Love sharing information about gear haha! Let me know how you like the new tele!
FANTASTIC video, J!! Thanks for sharing that - great sound and playing. New subscriber here.
@@yanikem6655 ahhh thanks man! Welcome to the family! 😁
Thank you again. Great review. Extremely informative.
@@dmbar1953 thanks! Great guitar, but needs some attention out of the box for sure! 😄
I remember back in '80s my local guitar store had quite a few Westone Spectrum guitars in, they were terrible! I think they all had build issues and the some of saddles were as far forward as they would go but were still not intonated, about 5 or 6 years later I noticed they still had the majority of those same guitars on the floor.
The Westcreek made me think of those Westones!
@@AndrewAHayes well first run at T-style guitars for a company who has only produced set neck G-style models. Other than a few easily resolvable issues, not bad at all for a first kick at the can. No intonation issues on these. They are easily intonated with lots of forward and rearward adjustments. A lot has changed since the 80s 😉
Well it definitely does that tele thing in spades. Great video thanks for sharing😊👍✝️
It does Dan, it sure does! Thanks for checking in!
Another versatile West Creek. Really cool look and sound. The second run should be better, wirh the neck ferrules corrected and proper-sized string trees which are minor quibbles. Happy Canada Day to you and yours, J! Break a leg at that gig!
Thanks buddy! Yeah way better 1st swing at the bat on this one than than on the JX-20 for sure!
Happy Canada Day to you Cal!
A how how how, have mercy! Great re- build!
Guess we’ll have to call you Magic J from now on.. or Angus J, or,,,
Superb video and of course, playing!!💥💪
Hahaha you liked those palm swipes saddles eh? Ya they are cool😂😂😂!
Fun little guitar for sure! Thanks buddy!
Love WestCreek’s take on the Tele. They do a great job of adapting classic styles with their own unique design elements.
Half the time I just tune in to hear you noodle around. I actually clicked on this one because I was curious how it played. Electronics sound great. But you could make just about any guitar sing.
Thanks for another great demo and (as always) for the inspiring jam!
Thanks so much Bill! You're too kind. Just having fun here😄
I agree, Westcreeks take on the T-style, is very interesting. I sent them the videos and if they tweak the minor problems I found, these guitars are going to sell like hotcakes!😁
Another one well done J-Man. Unfortunately for me I've had a setback and now lost control of my Fret hand. I had a minor stroke. I can't even play half as bad as I have before. I'm gonna try to keep on rockin though. All the more reason to keep watching you. You're good motivation.
Ahhhh Rainer, I'm surprised and saddened to hear this!😯🙁
I am however glad to be reading your comment as this means you're still with us and in good spirits!😀
I'll send some prayers your way for a speedy recovery.🙏😎
Take care and stay positive!😃
@@j-man9457 Thaks J-Man, it means a lot to me. Play Copperhead Road for me on your net gig.
@@rainerjaschke5216 I'll do my best!
i think them "bross" saddles made the bridge pup twankier!
have jazzmaster style knobs on me tease tele and les paul style knobs on others lol!
man i liked that saddle install trick woooo!!!
Hahaha! Thanks brother!
Nice man. had my eye on these westcreek teles. Sounds great. I also use the vox mini heads great amp.
@@darkscribblings yeah great guitar, and surprising little amps for sure! 😁
@@j-man9457 question sir. Were you able to lower the action? If so how? (I recall in your first unboxing you showed it was fairly high... I definitely prefer low action guitars or at least be adjustable)
@@darkscribblings yes, I just added a small credit card thickness shim at the very front of the neck pocket and that was all it needed 😃
Neck almost sounds like a bright (old LP) humbucker❤
The mods sound totally worth it. Especially the tone NOBS 😅. Bridge PU i'd probably changed it to a quarterpound, stagered 😊
@@markusfinkler9625 yup pickups would be a good upgrade for this!
AND ROCK it Does!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@theguitarprofessionals8584 not bad at all for a 1st kick at the can for a Tele from WestCreek!
Man, I looked that up and $199 in the US, that is an amazing guitar for that amount of coin. I am looking for a Tele and this might find a way in to my cart
@@GeoffreyAnderson2112 wow! 199 for you? 100$ more for us here in Canada!
Great guitars but more than likely, it will need some setting up!
Rock on!
J-man nice job modding the TT-20! I think the pups sound pretty good. That neck pup is kinda Straty.
You need to get the dremel out & grind that switch tip off, haha.
Have you seen the Slick brand brass switch tip & knobs at Guitar Fetish? They would look cool with the brass saddles.
Yeah they look cool!
Thanks! The guitar is really good for a $299 tele hahaha!
What’s next? Are you going to get one of the WestCreek TT-50 in the b&w checker pattern. Then you can get Cheap Trick vibe going haha.
@@johnjolly9519 hahaha! Not a bad idea! They are not available here yet, but I'll keep an eye out!
Ain’t that a shame!
Haha
Yup you're right!
That is a sweet Tele.
Hey Shane, I agree. It really is! WestCreek did a great job on this one!😀
I'm not a big fan of Westcreek. That's for sure. But... man this guitar has captured my attention. It's a looker, and just seems like a really cool guitar. I might just have to check one of these out. Might be a cool mod platform. Or not... depending on how it is out of the box. I'd be interested in maybe throwing some sort of hot rail in the bridge, and see what happens. Anyway - it's a cool guitar for sure.
Thanks buddy! Yeah way better out of the box than the JX-20!was for sure! Lots of possibilities with this thing 😁
J-Man is there any Tele you don't like? Does sound good though.
Just the ones I've sent back hahaha!
Simplicity at its best = Tele!
Haha
Are those locking tuners available in the US?
@@andrewscottfoust I'm pretty sure Musiclily is available in the US as well as in Canada. In your Amazon search window just type Musiclily locking tuners and see if anything comes up. I'd be surprised if it didn't....
@@j-man9457 Awesome, I will definitely try those out. I put Hipshots in my 333 but they are a bit pricey I think. I want to replace my trem springs. Is there a standard size or something I should look for? Also, your playing is fantastic!
@@andrewscottfoust hey Thanks man!
Nah these are standard size trem springs. Any good set of trem springs should be fine... Not advocating but pretty sure Musiclily have a spring kit available. Inexpensive and probably as good as anything out there😃
How loud are you in the room? Sounds big and loud.
Nice job!
That sounds good.
👍
Not very loud Vern, just a little louder than my talking voice 😃
You look like Dustin Hoffman in the movie Papillon. 😀
Hahaha really? Well I'll bet our bank accounts don't look alike! 😂😂😂
Overall, probably not THE most exciting or technically impressive Telecaster-style guitar you’ve ever done, but it’s clearly FAR better than many, including some more expensive ones out there! This one seems very basic but very solid. If it were me, I might consider replacing the neck pickup-it is rather dark sounding for a Tele… But then again, it could go either way. As for the switch: It sounds like it might be similar to the ones sold under the Kaish brand on Amazon-they do seem more solid and have a much better feel than the typical box switches found in many Squier guitars, for example.
Yup, mod and upgrade possibilities on this are limitless hahaha... The switch is not a Kaish, but it could be from the same factory🤔 because it sure feels like one!
Thanks, brother man. I have been waiting for this video. So, the big question... How would you compare the WestCreek TT-20 to the Musi Classic? Not that it really matters since I can't find the Musi Classics anywhere these days, but I am curious.
Good question!
As far as playability, weight, comfort and feel goes, very similar. However the Musi Classic is still the more superior guitar as far as features go...
The Musi stock has a real blade switch, puretone jack, SS frets, compound radius fretboard, cloth wire pickups, staggered locking tuners and the truss rod wheel adjustment at the bottom of the neck. However the Musi is almost $200 CAD more. So I guess it comes down to what's important to you feature wise😀
@@j-man9457 - That makes sense. Not a truly fair comparison. Do you know of anything on the market that is on the level of the Musi Classic (as those are unavailable, at least here in the US)? I have a Squire 50s CV which I love (in spite of feeling like it wasn’t worth the money as it was around $425 US and I have done a lot of work to it. Swapped out tuners, replaced the nut with a Graphtech, upgraded to brass compensated saddles, and dealt with a lot of fret issues% Alas, I am not exactly happy with the pups. I hate to dump more money into it at this point, but might as well. Not sure what more I would possible need (smile). Is there an easier way to communicate with you than commenting on vids? Not that we know each other like that or anything.
@@TedTalksGuitars Hahaha I have been through that with Squires and Fenders... I can't justify their asking price and then be not happy with it and sink money in it that I'll never get back. People say a budget guitar doesn't hold their value, but a 300$ guitar will always be a 300$ guitar haha I haven't lost money yet hahaha!
Here in Canada I don't know of anything that would come close to the-musi features stock out of the box for $485 CAD!
Up in the US, I hear fire fly and Leo Jaymz are pretty interesting. I think neck and body wise they may compare to the Musis, but the electronics fall short, but you could change all that!
nosaj39@hotmail.com is my email 😃
@@TedTalksGuitars If you’re in the United States and you’re seeking a traditional Telecaster-style guitar, I would recommend the Firefly FFTL. I have one of these, and it’s VERY similar to the Musi Virgo Classic-it has SS frets, roasted maple neck, full size pots, blade-style switch, locking tuners, and heel-mounted wheel-adjusted truss rod. It’s FANTASTIC. It might even be made in the same factory as the Musi guitars… I love mine.
@@zuperdee - Thanks. I am checking out the Firefly FFTL. Seems like the body, neck, and frets would be a good platform for mods.
Sounds great, but you have to figure out how to get that switch tip off and change it. The band may not even allow you to play it live, with that switch tip on it.
Hahaha I know. It's welded on!
Hey J Man, is West Creek and M Musi the same Company? Headstocks look the same!
@@geralddoyle5131 no they are not, but they are Sister companies. I think they are owned by the same person (who ever that is)
The headstock a only look the same from far lol. From close they are quite different. I prefer the Musi headstock to Westcreek's! 😃
Just received mine. The tuners you installed, was it a straight bolt on? Any drilling? Thank you.
@@vladimirrosales3 direct fit! No issues😀
You look like Paul Reed Smith in the thumbnail lol
Hahaha I wish I could afford one of his guitars! Lol
Can i buy that from you???
@@lauriemacquanan2141 sorry it's already sold... 😔
That guitar needs a proper ash tray bridge.
I thought of that but most ashtrays available here are 4 hole mount across the bottom. This mounts with 3 holes across the bottom and 2 up top at each corner. You'd have to drill additional holes for an ashtray mount and then you'd see the 2 screw holes at the top as the ashtray base plate is shorter than the traditional base plate...
@@j-man9457 I thought the footprint was the same. This is unrelated but I have a Godin Radiator that I hated the bridge on and cut down a Tele bridge to replace it. The thing I never counted on was the difference in thickness. I had to shim the Tele bridge up 1 millimeter with shims I made out of a soda can.
@@keenedgedesigns oh cool nice mod man!
Yeah unfortunately not the same foot print!
@@j-man9457 The 4 vs 3 screw mount and the bridge/saddle lengths are not the only things you have to worry about. The string-through holes will also be in a different place, and that’s CRUCIAL, not just because you’ll have holes to plug, but because it also affects the break angles over the saddles.
@@zuperdee yeah I've done it before and it worked fine but you have to make sure the string through body holes and the pickup rout line up with both bridge plates and the rest you can fill and re-drill and the intonation will dial in with no issues... On the one I did the break angle wasn't a problem...😃