You can really see why it internal combustion on the rails didn't catch on until the starter motor became common. I'd much rather put a fire in a steam engine and wait a few hours than have to start that Medieval piece of torture equipment.
Appropriately being called 'Courage' reminds the driver of 2 things:- 1 Courage in wanting to hand start it 2 Courage being the pints of beer to be supped replacing the sweat expended in doing so. Half expected a pack of hounds emerging from the undergrowth every time the 'horn' was sounded......
If you had told me the same uni students that ran the line had knocked this together over a weekend from spare parts as they needed a locomotive quickly I'd have not questioned it... Lovely quaint thing!
when i saw the size of the loco , i couldn't understand how the video was 46 mins .. and then a good % was watching Lawrie suffer & Morgan be 'encouraging '
That thing looks like it was built for shits and giggles. Very much a Lawrie Goes Loco loco. And you could probably have got a steam engine going more quickly to give it the bump start. Also, the exhaust just firing straight back into whoever is coupled behind you exemplifies the entire concept of the little thing! Great video with your usual enthusiasm!
I think they mean diesels with electric starters that do all the hard work for you Cause yeah if you had to give a reason why electric starters were invented this is it, this is the prime example of it
It’s also struck me that having a Courage sign on that loco was also very apt as I think it took a lot of ‘Courage’ to try to start that by crank handle. 😉
My local water scouting group (yes, in the Netherlands) used to have this engine in a 1920's 3,5 meter long tiny tug boat (with the so called 'Amsterdam' stern), I was a hard one to start but it could run all day at a medium RPM. The sound of that engine brings me back to the care free 1990's which I enjoyed as a young adolecense.
I think this must be the ultimate standard gauge critter! Thanks for showing it to us. It's spiritual successor, the Trackmobile, has got to be a lot easier to start. Cheers from Wisconsin.
You have just made my day, I've never laughed so much wathing you try and swing that engine, did you change from highto low compression before you tried starting that, I helped move a 4 cylinder version of that engine with a generator attached from Milton Keynes to Internal Fire museum Tan y Groes in Wales, I had the generator set on a trailer behind my van and a friend had the engine on a trailer behind his van. When we got it built together it took four men, three on the large starting handle and one on a rope attached to the handle to start it. :-) Forgot to mention, that engine is a modified version of a Lister CS twin, CS stands for Cold Start" :-)
really by 7:20 i must laugh and i wearing your LMM T-shirt with the words "I am currently unsupervised" so we made a locomotive and call Courage :D *with two dumbs up and great big smile* this is great
Brilliant my man! This is along one of my lockdown walks as I live near there! They also had stored some trams from Leeds after the network got closed down but they got vandalised by the Riff Raff of the 60's 🙄 love your videos man and its ace you got ride along that line! 😊
That's the cutest little engine. Watching it come out of the trees under the footbridge was a bit like watching Dr Nefario on his mobility scooter 😄 It looked like great fun. 👍😊
This thing really is fascinating. I mean it seems very reliable, as it has nothing that could break. Its the perfect size for smalls goods operations and therefore great at shunting trucks on a heritage railway. I would say it has a great fuel efficiency due to its weight/size/engine. Overall a great loco, that you could even build yourself in the backyard
If Hornby ever made a model of Courage, I’d buy one just for the sheer ridiculousness of it. I love the diesel can, just another example of industrial improvisation another example is one of the sentinels at the railway I volunteer at has a dicky brake cylinder that you have to kick every now and then to get it to shut properly! Brilliant video as always
Reminds me of the Juggernaut from Ivor The Engine. That being said, no wonder it keeps going. Listers engines are notorious for their "Probably will outlive the human race" level of reliability.
A great video and a railway that is close to my heart as my gran lived nearbye and my great grandad Earnest Clapham was a driver in its working days and worked there for over 50 yrs and I have a few pics of various locomotives over the years that served the railway. I still have memories as a kid of the slag heaps as a backdrop and the tram lines that ran nearbye into middleton woods. The place looks totally different now.
Until you try and stop a few wagons in the snow, downhill, and sort of just slide. A 48 goes out of control with a single coach, so I shouldn't wonder the maximum braking load for this.
@@ajaxengineco it tends to be used along the flatter tracks here, a downhill run from Middleton park might be lively if all three coaches , wagon and brake van were in service together.
It is a lovely thing. How much did they take the Mickey out on you for the starter fail I wonder. Only thing I can think of that looks smaller (probably heavier?) Is the Port of Par/China clay twins Judy and Alfred (AKA Bill and Ben for some people of a certain age).
Quirky little diesel. Love the chain underneath. Reminds me of a sentinel, even though it looks like a cross between a Ford model T and a Ruston diesel shunter.
Was that horn seriously used back in those days xD??? Sounds so hilarious!!! Nice, little locomotive yet ridiculously tough to start...and changing gears while keeping it in motion is another tough thing in the list xD!!! Anyways, loved the video as Lawrie has always been my fav! Love from India :)
Have you ever been to/heard of the Tanat Valley Railway in Wales? It appears to be a very small, very independent heritage railway, much like many others, but they also have a monorail system complete with the world's only functioning steam monorail. It seems like the sort of thing you'd be interested in...
Hi Laurie, what a strange but wonderful little engine. From watching you oil Sweet Pea, you might consider adding an oil rag to your kit. I feel for the gentlemen riding in the coach, I am sure they ate their fair share of exhaust. Cheers!!!
Awesome review LMM and what a machine. I love the hand crank engine, you gave it your best. I was weaned on COURAGE ale so it was grand to see the engine that moved the goods that ruined my digestive tracts (sorry too much info I know). Keep it up team, I love your work.
The cabin seems like it would be a bit cold in the winter, why not install a cabin heater and run it off the bean can instead of pouring it back into the diesel tank🤔(and yes, I know museums etc. don't/shouldn't modify historical items)
Lawrie it's not surprising that is hard to start by hand... The JP2 is a whopping 2.9 litre engine for all of its 22hp. And with it being only 2 cylinder, as you said, it will be harder to turn that a 4. Add into that the higher compression of a diesel and yep...It's gonna brake and break you lol. Good video regards Gary
If you momentarily allow the clutch to engage in the neutral position on the way through from low to second, while letting the revs drop as you did, you should be able to engage the higher gear without grinding, enabling a quicker and smoother gear change. Essentially double clutching/rev matching.
Sweet Pea went to the NRM a few years back, did some shunting on a MK1 I think and got some of the biggest cheers and toots from passing locos on the mainlines through York
I see all those practise sessions crank starting Humpty didn't pay off on this loco. Anyway its a interesting diesel loco and its past was upsetting to hear about but like any good story it ends in a good way in its preservation.
Ha ha,that was hilarious! Certainly a good old workout for you there. I've been to the Middleton a few times (I live 10 minutes away) and it is an excellent railway. Now go get a rub down lol.
I think the smallest standard gauge locomotive would be a 2ft gauge locomotive, dropped into a standard gauge frame called Hurculisese,(can't spell, named after t Greek god) which lives at Froxfield. She was a "convention " done by Shelton steel works
What a lovely little loco and may I say a very good video i am never disappointed with your videos they are the best railway content on RUclips so interesting well done Lawrie 😊👍
I also think you should do an episode on a tram, maybe one of the Blackpool trams. There's one Marton VAMBAC tram left at the East Anglia Transport Museum, the only operational Blackpool tram at the moment with the original twin headcode boxes. Blackpool trams are gorgeous
Small world! My 1951 Massey-Harris G22 FS140 4 cylinder makes 22hp from factory. I'm not sure it still makes that, but I still use it every week or so to plow snow!
I love your videos please keep them coming because the more I see the more I wish I could be there in your country to live an own my loco and to work for you people
@@lmm Riding a NG Wickham was fun at Corris Railway one evening shifting a delivery of spare rails. (basically scrap but you dont say no, as the next offer might be useful)
That looks to be much the same way as I used to have to start our 1939 John-Deere model "A" farm tractor with the exception of you have a crank handle whereas I had to grab the actual flywheel itself and spin it by hand. Its "pressure relief" was a petcock valve on the side of each of its two cylinders. Some days it'd start on the first couple of cranks. Other days it seems I'd spend an hour of cranking and wheezing for breath before it would pop off and run. :) When starting the process was to turn on the petrol so it would gravity flow down to the carburetor, set the brakes, put the gear lever in neutral, give it some throttle, pull the choke out full, open the petcocks and give it a crank until it reached a compression stroke. If luck were with me I'd get a single pop and then would push the choke halfway back in and on the next compression stroke it would fire off. Then I'd close the petcock valves, push the choke back in fully and climb aboard, release the brake sets, pull the hand clutch, select a gear and push the hand clutch forward and off I'd go, lol. It did have an electric start, but 99% of the time the 6volt battery was always dead as it was set to charge very slowly assuming that you'd be on it in the fields all day. The sound of it running at throttle was amazingly similar to the sound of that Hunslet as you came out of the tunnel. If it were slowed down to idle though, which we would set it on for splitting wood with a hydraulic splitter that coupled to the hydraulic pump in the tractor it sounded like it was going to die which was normal. It would sound like pop-POP-foof-foof-foof-foof-pop-POP. If you ever get the chance look up Hand starting a John Deere "A" sometime on youtube and you'll see and hear what I mean. :)
@@lmm This one, ruclips.net/video/8a-jLedQJhk/видео.html while one size smaller than ours shows how to start and drive one pretty well. Ours was a bit more of a bear as it had a larger flywheel with teeth on the backside of it for the starter motor to engage even though we usually started it by hand anyway as the battery was usually flat. They were originally a 2 fuel tractor with two tanks as back then kerosene was much cheaper than gasoline. You'd start the tractor on gas in the small tank and when the engine warmed up you'd switch to the kerosene tank. We ran gasoline in both tanks, using the small tank as a reserve so that if we ran out of gas while mowing, plowing or whatever, we'd switch to the smaller tank and drive back up to the barn where we stored fuel.
The Shropshire and Montgomeryshire Railway No.1 Gazelle is the actual smallest standard gauge loco in the world, around the same height as Talyllyn locos. Its currently at Tenterden in the museum, at the K&ESR.
I think they REALLY need to figure out some sort of Starter Motor solution for little Courage, she is absolutely adorable, but seems like an absolute misery to start up. I really feel for you Lawrie. XD
Nice video as usual !! if you were to be able to have a go on all of their locos you could make enough episodes for the next couple of years! they do have an immaculate collection. Very nice museum and tea room too ,well worth visiting.
There may be a smaller standard gauge loco than this. JACOB is a small petrol engined loco that worked at a Jacob's biscuit factory. The engine was at Dinting Railway center but where it is now I don't know.....just googled it, the loco is at Statfold Barn Museum
Wow, such an interesting loco, how long did that take to start up🤣 If Sweet Pea had sentience, the amount of times you called it useless and pointless, you have the loco complaining every 5 minutes🤣🤣
Halto county radial museum in halton Ontario Canada was founded back 1954, making one oldest streetcar. It was started by 3 students that wanted to save TRC car 136 from TTC. They bought over time 1,1/4 miles of radial right of way for taxes. The museum has been operating for past 60 plus years
This would be a very interesting engine to drive in Train Simulator. I think the closest TS has to this little Hunslet engine is Corris Railway No. 5 On a personal note, I've seen at least one preserved Hunslet engine here in New Zealand. Said engine is an 0-6-0 diesel called DSA 551.
@@lmm I believe it had a break in the 60's, but that was in order to preserve the railway I believe and get things running? Its still the 'world's oldest railway still in operation' haha
@@lmm The reason we dont count Tanfield is that is on the railways own land, so the Middleton one needs the statement " Railway operating under Act of Parliament" in it for the oldest bit. Middleton has had a bit of traffic downtime for M621 construction and more recently the foot overbridge construction by Leeds Council, and now covid restrictions, though small amounts of outside work and loco mileage are occuring in private for engineering purposes.
So... all in all... how long did it take to actually get the puff-puff-go effect you were looking for, give or take? Seems somewhere around 20-30 minutes or so to me XD
I've seen coal fired steam locos that have made less smoke. Add that to hard starting and "never had any major work since the 1930s" and you come to "could REALLY use a good dose of engine restoration". And one more question - how does it last if the gears grind like that every single time you start?
Oh Lawrie. I feel your pain good sir. Am I right that I though you just wanted to do it properly? It was interesting that they couldn’t do it easily either
There is a RUclips channel called AdventureMe who has done a lot of videos about Middleton, Hunslet and other areas of Leeds where the old train tracks used to be and he looks what is there now. He does excellent overlays from old photographs onto the view today including the one of the photos LMM used at the start of this video. Worth a view if you like industrial history and railways.
I don't know...Bullard Company #2, a tiny H.K. Porter saddle tank engine, preserved at Steamtown National Historic Site, Scranton, PA, USA, might...MIGHT have it beat. Now, I couldn't find the dimensions and/or weight, but I assure you, it's miniscule!
another great video as always i really enjoy the content you should do a video with the midland railway trust they have some brilliant locos as well as an antique vehicle display
They should try and start it up a little more often! might make it a bit easier! Another great video, and I just realised i'm not subscribed, that has now changed :)
I like it! I think I see the charm and why it has survived all these years. Would probably start better with an overhaul, injectors, valves, pistons, the works. Just my guess. I've never run a Lister.
@@lmm That's what I kept saying to friends about my old '68 Triumph. I was too light to kick start the bike. Really, if i put my helmet on first and I was wearing my heavy jacket it was a lot easier. Just a few pounds made the difference some days.
You can really see why it internal combustion on the rails didn't catch on until the starter motor became common. I'd much rather put a fire in a steam engine and wait a few hours than have to start that Medieval piece of torture equipment.
It's a tossup between starting a diesel or shoveling coal into the firebox every 2 minutes.
@@ach3909 It's absolutely completely *bonkers*
@@PreservationEnthusiast *bonkers*
@@o.m.b.demolitionenterprise5398 It's totally fantastic. It's absolutely completely totally *bonkers*
A great replacement for a horse shunter
Alternative title would probably be "Lawrie attempting to start a sodding locomotive for 25 minutes"
@@idontcareexe9013 It's completely *bonkers*
Appropriately being called 'Courage' reminds the driver of 2 things:-
1 Courage in wanting to hand start it
2 Courage being the pints of beer to be supped replacing the sweat expended in doing so.
Half expected a pack of hounds emerging from the undergrowth every time the 'horn' was sounded......
If you had told me the same uni students that ran the line had knocked this together over a weekend from spare parts as they needed a locomotive quickly I'd have not questioned it...
Lovely quaint thing!
Okay we have chains, a narrow gauge motor and bonnet, truck frame and some metal beams
I can make a loco out of this
Still more effective than the prr q1 locos
I think you mistitled a 'Lawrie Goes a Little Loco' episode, mate.
@Irish sixty Six Fan he’s making a joke because the locomotive is so small
@Irish sixty Six Fan ...You didn't get the joke
@@AlexWeiss94 It's absolutely *bonkers*
@Irish sixty six Fan then, well, nevermind.
@Irish sixty six Fan no you didn't clearly
"Diesel locos took over from steam because they didn't take hours to start"...... Hunslet contradicted this statement when they built Courage!!
Could have an entertaining race of who can get going first vs a steam Loco
"Lawrie cranks it for 15 minutes and other stories."
when i saw the size of the loco , i couldn't understand how the video was 46 mins .. and then a good % was watching Lawrie suffer & Morgan be 'encouraging '
Another great video!!
Wasn’t expecting to see you here!
Oh, hai there.
Hello Plainly Difficult!
No way Mr The Difficult watch's L M M.
wow its you
That thing looks like it was built for shits and giggles. Very much a Lawrie Goes Loco loco. And you could probably have got a steam engine going more quickly to give it the bump start. Also, the exhaust just firing straight back into whoever is coupled behind you exemplifies the entire concept of the little thing!
Great video with your usual enthusiasm!
Wow, that starting procedure was really something! And they say diesels replaced steam cos they’re easier to start...
So much easier 😂
I think they mean diesels with electric starters that do all the hard work for you
Cause yeah if you had to give a reason why electric starters were invented this is it, this is the prime example of it
It’s also struck me that having a Courage sign on that loco was also very apt as I think it took a lot of ‘Courage’ to try to start that by crank handle. 😉
He's absolutely adorable
It's so cute isn't it!
I would have thought that comment was referring to you 😛
33:16 when it’s coming head on I think it kind of looks like a Ruston 48 which has had its body stripped
My local water scouting group (yes, in the Netherlands) used to have this engine in a 1920's 3,5 meter long tiny tug boat (with the so called 'Amsterdam' stern), I was a hard one to start but it could run all day at a medium RPM. The sound of that engine brings me back to the care free 1990's which I enjoyed as a young adolecense.
I think this must be the ultimate standard gauge critter! Thanks for showing it to us. It's spiritual successor, the Trackmobile, has got to be a lot easier to start. Cheers from Wisconsin.
I remember seeing her at railfest 2012, such a cute engine!
You have just made my day, I've never laughed so much wathing you try and swing that engine, did you change from highto low compression before you tried starting that, I helped move a 4 cylinder version of that engine with a generator attached from Milton Keynes to Internal Fire museum Tan y Groes in Wales, I had the generator set on a trailer behind my van and a friend had the engine on a trailer behind his van.
When we got it built together it took four men, three on the large starting handle and one on a rope attached to the handle to start it. :-) Forgot to mention, that engine is a modified version of a Lister CS twin, CS stands for Cold Start" :-)
It's surprisingly entertaining to watch some lads failing to turn a crank.
really by 7:20 i must laugh and i wearing your LMM T-shirt with the words "I am currently unsupervised" so we made a locomotive and call Courage :D *with two dumbs up and great big smile* this is great
Brilliant my man! This is along one of my lockdown walks as I live near there! They also had stored some trams from Leeds after the network got closed down but they got vandalised by the Riff Raff of the 60's 🙄 love your videos man and its ace you got ride along that line! 😊
That's the cutest little engine. Watching it come out of the trees under the footbridge was a bit like watching Dr Nefario on his mobility scooter 😄 It looked like great fun. 👍😊
This thing really is fascinating. I mean it seems very reliable, as it has nothing that could break. Its the perfect size for smalls goods operations and therefore great at shunting trucks on a heritage railway. I would say it has a great fuel efficiency due to its weight/size/engine. Overall a great loco, that you could even build yourself in the backyard
It's a really interesting little thing!
If Hornby ever made a model of Courage, I’d buy one just for the sheer ridiculousness of it. I love the diesel can, just another example of industrial improvisation another example is one of the sentinels at the railway I volunteer at has a dicky brake cylinder that you have to kick every now and then to get it to shut properly! Brilliant video as always
There's a 3d print on Shapeways, not sure if it's 00 but it does exist.
Reminds me of the Juggernaut from Ivor The Engine.
That being said, no wonder it keeps going. Listers engines are notorious for their "Probably will outlive the human race" level of reliability.
I wonder if after all the effort to start it, it would have been less work just to push the wagon alone.
A great video and a railway that is close to my heart as my gran lived nearbye and my great grandad Earnest Clapham was a driver in its working days and worked there for over 50 yrs and I have a few pics of various locomotives over the years that served the railway. I still have memories as a kid of the slag heaps as a backdrop and the tram lines that ran nearbye into middleton woods. The place looks totally different now.
Drop a line to the line of any memories, there is a book recently published on the coal mines and the line and the locality.
That's one racey shunting engine! You see, Hunslet understood that a true fast shunter should be light as possible for handling
Until you try and stop a few wagons in the snow, downhill, and sort of just slide. A 48 goes out of control with a single coach, so I shouldn't wonder the maximum braking load for this.
@@ajaxengineco it tends to be used along the flatter tracks here, a downhill run from Middleton park might be lively if all three coaches , wagon and brake van were in service together.
Given the customer it was built for I think your idea about being devised late on a Friday night in a pub makes a lot of sense :-)
😂 😂 Thank you
I just hear John Cleese going "START YOU VISCIOUS BASTARD!!!" while Lawrie is trying to crank it to life
It is a lovely thing. How much did they take the Mickey out on you for the starter fail I wonder. Only thing I can think of that looks smaller (probably heavier?) Is the Port of Par/China clay twins Judy and Alfred (AKA Bill and Ben for some people of a certain age).
Quirky little diesel. Love the chain underneath. Reminds me of a sentinel, even though it looks like a cross between a Ford model T and a Ruston diesel shunter.
When that engine fired, it reminded me of the sound two-cylinder John Deere tractors I ran at my first job. (Poppin' Johnnies)
Was that horn seriously used back in those days xD??? Sounds so hilarious!!! Nice, little locomotive yet ridiculously tough to start...and changing gears while keeping it in motion is another tough thing in the list xD!!! Anyways, loved the video as Lawrie has always been my fav! Love from India :)
Have you ever been to/heard of the Tanat Valley Railway in Wales? It appears to be a very small, very independent heritage railway, much like many others, but they also have a monorail system complete with the world's only functioning steam monorail. It seems like the sort of thing you'd be interested in...
Looks like it built a bits from hunslet shelf’s coupled together
that moment when a model railroad kitbasher accidentally joins a real engine company.
It’s the duck billed platypus of railway engines!!!!
by the looks of it some of the shelves themselves were included for good measure
@@roseroserose588 It's totally fantastic. It's just absolutely completely *bonkers*
Probably one of the only locomotives, since the 1840's, to still utilise a post horn as an audible warning device.
It's brilliant isn't it
Hi Laurie, what a strange but wonderful little engine. From watching you oil Sweet Pea, you might consider adding an oil rag to your kit. I feel for the gentlemen riding in the coach, I am sure they ate their fair share of exhaust. Cheers!!!
Awesome review LMM and what a machine. I love the hand crank engine, you gave it your best. I was weaned on COURAGE ale so it was grand to see the engine that moved the goods that ruined my digestive tracts (sorry too much info I know). Keep it up team, I love your work.
Heard you on absolute radio this morning!!
Excellent! Fame at last 😂
The cabin seems like it would be a bit cold in the winter, why not install a cabin heater and run it off the bean can instead of pouring it back into the diesel tank🤔(and yes, I know museums etc. don't/shouldn't modify historical items)
Because there's no sides to the cab 😂
Serious competition for Mallard I think.
You had to make sure we knew you knew what you were doing Lawrie. Lol
Lawrie it's not surprising that is hard to start by hand... The JP2 is a whopping 2.9 litre engine for all of its 22hp. And with it being only 2 cylinder, as you said, it will be harder to turn that a 4. Add into that the higher compression of a diesel and yep...It's gonna brake and break you lol. Good video regards Gary
If you momentarily allow the clutch to engage in the neutral position on the way through from low to second, while letting the revs drop as you did, you should be able to engage the higher gear without grinding, enabling a quicker and smoother gear change. Essentially double clutching/rev matching.
One tends to need both feet on the clutch and brake bars on this.
Sweet Pea went to the NRM a few years back, did some shunting on a MK1 I think and got some of the biggest cheers and toots from passing locos on the mainlines through York
Awesome video. Truly.
Thank you
I see all those practise sessions crank starting Humpty didn't pay off on this loco. Anyway its a interesting diesel loco and its past was upsetting to hear about but like any good story it ends in a good way in its preservation.
Ha ha,that was hilarious! Certainly a good old workout for you there. I've been to the Middleton a few times (I live 10 minutes away) and it is an excellent railway. Now go get a rub down lol.
I’ve only watched 2 vids and I think ur Chanel is amazing! Keep up the good work!
Thank you very much!
@@lmm your welcome!
I think the smallest standard gauge locomotive would be a 2ft gauge locomotive, dropped into a standard gauge frame called Hurculisese,(can't spell, named after t Greek god) which lives at Froxfield. She was a "convention " done by Shelton steel works
Hercules?
What a lovely little loco and may I say a very good video i am never disappointed with your videos they are the best railway content on RUclips so interesting well done Lawrie 😊👍
Hi, I subscribed suddenly to your very intresting channel! Keep safe and cheers, Fabrizio
Thanks for joining us 😊
@@lmm Thanks to you for sharing! Cheers Fabrizio
I also think you should do an episode on a tram, maybe one of the Blackpool trams. There's one Marton VAMBAC tram left at the East Anglia Transport Museum, the only operational Blackpool tram at the moment with the original twin headcode boxes. Blackpool trams are gorgeous
" I need a locomotive ? "
"Well how much have you got"
😂 😂 I think we've something lying around
The first word that springs to mind when I see this is "awww".
Small world! My 1951 Massey-Harris G22 FS140 4 cylinder makes 22hp from factory. I'm not sure it still makes that, but I still use it every week or so to plow snow!
Good to hear that it's still in use!
@@lmm I hope I work as good as my tractor does when I'm 70 years old!
An oil can should always be accompanied by a rag....👍
I love your videos please keep them coming because the more I see the more I wish I could be there in your country to live an own my loco and to work for you people
We've got loads lined up!
Very interesting histories and superb restorations, just Subscribed thanks for showing these fascinating old Locos. Regards, Paul.
Pleased to hear you're enjoying them!
Great episode. I remember seeing pictures of this and thinking it was a plaything made by someone just for the fun of it
Middleton is amazing. They allowed us to use their train museum Hall to study for our PTS
It's a really super place!
Pea is a fun to start as i have seen in person but ended up as a bump start at a gala oh how fun 🤣👌🏼 can't wait for the next vid
Now another railroad in the us I want to visit I love how it just has small locomotives
Lovely little engine but she seems like she’s hell to drive - I was wincing at the noise she made with every gear change
Gear changes were to slow that's why.
The Whickham Trolly is probably smaller though! Well done, I love this series! Keep it up :-)
Wickhams are trolleys though, and not locomotives
Oh, Thanks for clearing that up.
@@thestandardfour0699 it's just a specification really, they're self propelled trolleys.
Though yes, they are much smaller!
@@lmm Riding a NG Wickham was fun at Corris Railway one evening shifting a delivery of spare rails. (basically scrap but you dont say no, as the next offer might be useful)
That looks to be much the same way as I used to have to start our 1939 John-Deere model "A" farm tractor with the exception of you have a crank handle whereas I had to grab the actual flywheel itself and spin it by hand. Its "pressure relief" was a petcock valve on the side of each of its two cylinders. Some days it'd start on the first couple of cranks. Other days it seems I'd spend an hour of cranking and wheezing for breath before it would pop off and run. :) When starting the process was to turn on the petrol so it would gravity flow down to the carburetor, set the brakes, put the gear lever in neutral, give it some throttle, pull the choke out full, open the petcocks and give it a crank until it reached a compression stroke. If luck were with me I'd get a single pop and then would push the choke halfway back in and on the next compression stroke it would fire off. Then I'd close the petcock valves, push the choke back in fully and climb aboard, release the brake sets, pull the hand clutch, select a gear and push the hand clutch forward and off I'd go, lol. It did have an electric start, but 99% of the time the 6volt battery was always dead as it was set to charge very slowly assuming that you'd be on it in the fields all day. The sound of it running at throttle was amazingly similar to the sound of that Hunslet as you came out of the tunnel. If it were slowed down to idle though, which we would set it on for splitting wood with a hydraulic splitter that coupled to the hydraulic pump in the tractor it sounded like it was going to die which was normal. It would sound like pop-POP-foof-foof-foof-foof-pop-POP. If you ever get the chance look up Hand starting a John Deere "A" sometime on youtube and you'll see and hear what I mean. :)
I'll have a look, cause that sounds awesome!
@@lmm This one, ruclips.net/video/8a-jLedQJhk/видео.html while one size smaller than ours shows how to start and drive one pretty well. Ours was a bit more of a bear as it had a larger flywheel with teeth on the backside of it for the starter motor to engage even though we usually started it by hand anyway as the battery was usually flat. They were originally a 2 fuel tractor with two tanks as back then kerosene was much cheaper than gasoline. You'd start the tractor on gas in the small tank and when the engine warmed up you'd switch to the kerosene tank. We ran gasoline in both tanks, using the small tank as a reserve so that if we ran out of gas while mowing, plowing or whatever, we'd switch to the smaller tank and drive back up to the barn where we stored fuel.
The Shropshire and Montgomeryshire Railway No.1 Gazelle is the actual smallest standard gauge loco in the world, around the same height as Talyllyn locos. Its currently at Tenterden in the museum, at the K&ESR.
Look up The Flying Bufferbeam Peckett 1900 you'll be surprised
@@Synchro-Mesh Yes I know that, but Gazelle is genuinely really small
Peckett 1900 is low, but nowhere near as small.
Courage is shorter though.
My 48 is shorter
I think Gazelle is 17 foot?
I do wonder if the Howard Petrol-engined locomotive that's at the Bluebell railway is shorter than it.
I think they REALLY need to figure out some sort of Starter Motor solution for little Courage, she is absolutely adorable, but seems like an absolute misery to start up. I really feel for you Lawrie. XD
A Dog link from the larger Fowler might work
Nice video as usual !! if you were to be able to have a go on all of their locos you could make enough episodes for the next couple of years! they do have an immaculate collection.
Very nice museum and tea room too ,well worth visiting.
Excellent Lawrie, the 'new Fred Dibnah' Stewart & Linda (Js mum & dad)
Thank you very much!
It's all rather quite mad.
There may be a smaller standard gauge loco than this. JACOB is a small petrol engined loco that worked at a Jacob's biscuit factory. The engine was at Dinting Railway center but where it is now I don't know.....just googled it, the loco is at Statfold Barn Museum
That is a nice looking train my friend
that hock is in the way and a smaller sprocket on the starting handle side would help even more !
Wow, such an interesting loco, how long did that take to start up🤣 If Sweet Pea had sentience, the amount of times you called it useless and pointless, you have the loco complaining every 5 minutes🤣🤣
When talking about small locomotives I can’t help thinking about DSB Traktor 48 and DSB Traktor 57. Not British but tiny. And a bit silly.
or the french Moyse tractor "Bête à cornes", lovely cast chassis
@@SDE1994 that is a fine bit of kit as well. 😀
This little loco reminds me of the Juggernaut in ‘Ivor the Engine’, great film Lawrie :)
Oh yes! Me too!
This is the perfect loco for learning how to drive locomotives
It's actually not 😂 there are much easier things out there
Halto county radial museum in halton Ontario Canada was founded back 1954, making one oldest streetcar. It was started by 3 students that wanted to save TRC car 136 from TTC. They bought over time 1,1/4 miles of radial right of way for taxes. The museum has been operating for past 60 plus years
This would be a very interesting engine to drive in Train Simulator. I think the closest TS has to this little Hunslet engine is Corris Railway No. 5
On a personal note, I've seen at least one preserved Hunslet engine here in New Zealand. Said engine is an 0-6-0 diesel called DSA 551.
Is this what happens when someone decides to re-gauge Alf from the Talyllyn?
Alf is a lot more powerful!
Originally worked at Courage...
This is clearly the first, and maybe only, standard gauge locomotive designed to pull pints...
Hey Lawrie, the world's oldest railway is actually Tanfield Railway in County Durham, which started operating in 1720 ☺️
But this is the oldest continually worked railway - Tanfield had a break in operation I believe?
@@lmm I believe it had a break in the 60's, but that was in order to preserve the railway I believe and get things running? Its still the 'world's oldest railway still in operation' haha
Yes, I Middleton is the oldest continually operating railway - I think that's what I say in the video
@@lmm The reason we dont count Tanfield is that is on the railways own land, so the Middleton one needs the statement " Railway operating under Act of Parliament" in it for the oldest bit. Middleton has had a bit of traffic downtime for M621 construction and more recently the foot overbridge construction by Leeds Council, and now covid restrictions, though small amounts of outside work and loco mileage are occuring in private for engineering purposes.
So... all in all... how long did it take to actually get the puff-puff-go effect you were looking for, give or take? Seems somewhere around 20-30 minutes or so to me XD
The good thing about the handbrake being in the middle is that it can keep you socially distancing!
Used as the front bogie of the Class 31 mock-up in the TV series "Edge of Darkness".
Yes it was!
I've seen coal fired steam locos that have made less smoke. Add that to hard starting and "never had any major work since the 1930s" and you come to "could REALLY use a good dose of engine restoration". And one more question - how does it last if the gears grind like that every single time you start?
I prefer the name Sweet Pea after all she’s a lovely little flower! (Sweet peas are cute flowers so it’s aptly named!)
Oh Lawrie. I feel your pain good sir. Am I right that I though you just wanted to do it properly? It was interesting that they couldn’t do it easily either
There is a RUclips channel called AdventureMe who has done a lot of videos about Middleton, Hunslet and other areas of Leeds where the old train tracks used to be and he looks what is there now. He does excellent overlays from old photographs onto the view today including the one of the photos LMM used at the start of this video. Worth a view if you like industrial history and railways.
I don't know...Bullard Company #2, a tiny H.K. Porter saddle tank engine, preserved at Steamtown National Historic Site, Scranton, PA, USA, might...MIGHT have it beat. Now, I couldn't find the dimensions and/or weight, but I assure you, it's miniscule!
another great video as always i really enjoy the content you should do a video with the midland railway trust they have some brilliant locos as well as an antique vehicle display
I love lawries excitement for this little engine. ☺️
They should try and start it up a little more often! might make it a bit easier! Another great video, and I just realised i'm not subscribed, that has now changed :)
Thank you very much!
To bed fair it doesn't get used much these days
going to snap his thumb you never hook thumb over a starting handle but pain a great teacher when engine kicks back
Apparently it doesn't.
You have to push the thing in to keep it engaged, which is very difficult to do if you don't hold it.
I like it! I think I see the charm and why it has survived all these years. Would probably start better with an overhaul, injectors, valves, pistons, the works. Just my guess. I've never run a Lister.
She's actually in really good condition. You just need to really throw it over!
@@lmm That's what I kept saying to friends about my old '68 Triumph. I was too light to kick start the bike. Really, if i put my helmet on first and I was wearing my heavy jacket it was a lot easier. Just a few pounds made the difference some days.
Hold my beer. I got an idea. Let's build a Loco in my garage lol
Great plan
What a crazy little locomotive!! Is it designed to be a yard runaround? I think it’s the supermini of locomotives!!
Have you ever double declutched before? If not, try it on this little machine!! It might help you to change gears without too much grinding.