Clan tartans are a Victorian invention
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The 1800s is when most "ancient traditions" were invented.
Traditions none þe less.
More of a Georgian invention by Edinburgh weavers who benefited from the grand pageant produced by Sir Walter Scott for George IV’s visit to Edinburgh in 1822. Tartan became even more fashionable in the Victorian era.
Tartans were actually extremely popular during the Proscription after 1746, with weavers in Bridge of Allan collecting tartan setts from around Scotland and producing new setts. Everyone seems to think it was 50 years later with Walter Scott, but it wasn't.
@@alicemilne1444 Have you got a link?
I know that the Dress Act 1746 was in effect only above the Highland Line.
@@kirsteneasdale5707 It wasn't. The dress act Was in effect throughout Scotland.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dress_Act_1746#:~:text=An%20act%20for%20the%20more,and%20government%2C%20during%20the%20unnatural
You’ve probably got a copy of ‘
the origin for clan tartans is 1700s which isnt the victorian era so total agree
You are walking through a dream. The land behind you is so beautiful.
I never knew that about the Clan Tartans; has thought it to be much older. Thank you!
Plant dyes were by Far the most common prior to the ban, so different areas (rather than different clans) would have natural colours in different volumes. Some areas had lots of reds and oranges, others, strong greens and blues, others yet, purples and yellows. But as they were homespun, even identical dyes, did not mean that great kilts produced looked Anything like that made in the next cottage over.
There are very few traditional dyes that are location, or even region specific, and the idea that certain colours were restricted to certain areas is not borne out by surviving examples. Bear in mind too that the two most commonly used dyestuff in the first half of the 18th century; cochineal and indigo, were both imported.
@@petermacdonald5332 not region specific, as that would be exclusionary and we know trade carried much more than just livestock and crops, but far more prevalent in certain areas.
Cudbar lichen grows in specific environments, not found across the whole of Scotland. (The pre cochineal Dark reds) and while incredibly plentiful in it's perfect environment? Notoriously rare elsewhere.
Sloes for dark blue, common in the south west, much less common elsewhere.
Dulse for a mid brown, Very common in the islands and West coastal communities, not found elsewhere. Waterlilly for Dark brown. Rare in the south east and all but unknown elsewhere.
Mid Green from Broom? Common almost everywhere aside from the central Highlands.
Dark Green from heather, Highlands.
Ragweed for Orange, not too common far from Applecross, though found across most of the country in small clusters.
Sundews grow on the islands, and western coast and isolated other far flung locations so Could have been used for purples... but I've never seen a tradition of doing so.
Red, Rue was reasonably common everywhere, but Shetland had their strong Scarlets from lichen found there and nowhere else.
So, while you are right, that by the ending years of traditional Highland culture, access to dues of any colour was far from beyond even the humblest clothiers, spinners or weavers ... But go back just a few generations and locally sourced dyes (and the easy availability of the dyes derived from the plants in those areas) were much less homogenous than in "modern" (as far as 18th century people knew the term) times. They used what was easily available, and that meant different plants in different parts of the country at different times of year.
I won’t lie, I wish people still dressed like this. Way more impressive than what we’ve got going on now.
He looks like a bag of shite tied in the middle.
Every little piece of the history of these garments gives me vertigo because of the depth and abundance of information. So complex!
Brilliant 👌🏴
So, early plaid would have, theoretically, been regionalised in colour and style dependant of the flora and other ecological colour-catalyst (geologic, microclimate, etc) factors ?
Yes. There's no "theoretical" about it. The various regions had different colours and shades of dyes, and each island also had its own tartans.
@alicemilne1444 well, I am momentarily sitting here, looking at geologic maps of Scotland, and wondering, just wondering, about the uptake of minerals in plants and the subsequent output of dye qualities. On Google images, I am given maps of merely Scotland, with England cropped out, and most of those are much older versions. It seems that England may have had greater geologic diversity, but I cannot see, and I am wondering about (all of) "it" in history, as well as how other peoples in other lands had fared with likened natural resource (the natural resource of colour), the effect on society, etc ... not for conflict inquiry, so much as to establish the concept of different properties (not this is better than this, but this is better for this while this other is better for this that).
@@alicemilne1444 That is a mis-quote of Martin Martin and not borne out by extant specimens.
Awesome explanation.
A run down of the clothes your actually wearing would be interesting and its era and relationship to how it was made.
The dedication for this clip is amazing! Claiming the hill after putting everything on, setting up the camera, running down the hill to run back up at! I wonder if this was done in one take
Wallace clan tartan is my ancestral tartan. My best friend had the Stewart tartan.
Beautiful ceremonial dréss.
Thanks so much for making our history accessible! There's no way I could afford enough of my clan tartan to make a great kilt, and I don't like the colour and pattern anyway. As it is, I just got some sturdy wool and have had a blast with it ever since! Cheers from Down Under!👍
could just listen to you talk forever, so soothing.
Scottish men are awesome! 😍
LOOOOOVE THE SCOTTISH BROAD SWORD! The best sword for self defense and my preference.
When was the last time anyone used a sword for self defence?
Ironically enough: (I just wanted to share smth cool)
Where my family comes from in Assam (Northeast India), there has been a very recent boom in indigenous fashion, with more people starting to wear clothes that are coded with the colors and designs of their people and ethnic nations. Most of this fashion is effected by the politics in the region, with more people suddenly becoming more aligned with their ethnic identity as for them to be able to get "Scheduled Tribes" status from the Indian government. Ironically enough, most of the people didn't really wear these indigenous designs en masse on a daily basis back in the day, unless of course they probably were a very isolated/hostile nation.
But I live in America, and I am not a part of any indigenous community, so take that as you will.
Bro watched outlander and here we are.
I'm guessing he was doing this before Outlander came out.
Besides, I'm sure it was more popular in the USA.
My great great grandfather came from Scotland and it’s nice to see his history
Wonder why he left if its so great. ?
@@daviddixon286money and adventure : Although the Scottish emigrants, in coming to America, were assured freedom to exercise their Presbyterian religion at a time when the Stuart monarchy favored spreading the Anglican Church throughout the British Isles, the most important motivation for Scottish emigration was economic.
I like the Claymore.
My treasured book is catalogue of real pieces of tartan my dad rescued from a bin when fitting out a shop in Aberdeen; there are a hundred tartans !
Love scotland
Yes evolve the ancestors 🔥
I love your videos.
It's good to see you reclaiming your actual national dress, rather than the later thing which always looks like it came off of a machine (national dress always harkens back to the last culture prior industrialisation, so the original plaid is a much better option).
I just wish that we in England could reclaim our true national dress (that of the 1750s just prior to the industrial revolution here).
The plaid wasn't national dress, though. It's Highland dress. People in the Lowlands didn't dress like that.
@@alicemilne1444Go back a bit further though and people in the lowlands certainly spoke Gaelic so I'm not sure it's correct to say they didn't wear tartan.
@@sky37blue People often confuse the plaid (a blanket like piece of cloth made up of two loom-widths of woven woollen material) with tartans, which are the patterns woven into the cloth. The plaid was an all-purpose piece of cloth that could be used as the great kilt (the belted plaid), a blanket or a tent. It was a specifically Highland garment/piece of gear. In the south only shepherds usually had a plaid they used like a cloak or could drape around themselves to form a sling to carry lambs. Tartans were all over Scotland, but the Borders tartan was more of a black and white check pattern without the repeating rectangular setts of the northerly weavers.
Still proud to be part of the McCallum clan
From what I heard in other places the clan tartans were "assigned" by the writers of a book printed back in the day with no justification other than their whim.
You are referring to the Allen (Sobieski Stuart) Brothers and the book of 1842. Specifically, it gave/assigned tartans to Lowland families who'd not previously wore it in the context of Highland Dress.
Wallace Wallace Wallace
Never knew this. Very interesting
My Clan Tartan is basically greens. SUTHERLAND
Well that's just because they'd finally invented the tartan paint!
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I’d love to wear a kilt but the cost plus I don’t know my Scots-Irish heritage. My Grandfather didn’t talk about the past, we aren’t sure when he immigrated to Canada - he did mention that there’s family in Scotland and in Ireland - he was born in Southern Ireland. But his folks moved around trying to find work. We don’t know the clan tartan because he changed his last name to Smith when he went through Chicago and landed in Alberta Canada 🇨🇦 he didn’t talk about his family or the past. We don’t even know his original sir name. He just appears in record’s starting in Chicago. It would be nice to know.
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Where do you buy your plaids from brother. I cant find any to order online that are cheaper than a car. You never tell us where to source fabric from help a brother out.
As the big renaissance was from 1822-ish it would actually be Georgian era
I worked for a Scot that that was gifted with a Tartan Breeze flag because of his flatulence problem.
He loved that flag.
Tartan was never completely banned. Read the Act. It only prohibits tartan being used for great coats and top coats. You could still wear kilts if you wanted.
No quite. The Act specifically banned Highland clothes for men (less those in the army and the gentry). The reference to tartan great coats was probably to cover non-Highland Jacobites who'd worn them to show their support to the cause.
Today on how Victorians messed up everything.
An English man invented the kilt for foundry work.
Bhideo sgoinneil!
I want to ask questions but afraid . I live in the arctic . My old realations tell stories of Scott the land. Was there travel to arctic circle travel .? There are elders of 100 years tell stories.
Although you’d have to do some fast talking to get me to soak my kilt in a freezing stream and wrap it around me for the night. Just don’t know how effective it would be.
How do o get that hat
Scotland looks a lot like the SW USA
There can be only one
Pretty sure they used clan tartan in uniforms since like the 1700s aint the victorian era like 1800s
Highland regiments were drawn from a mixture of clans in the same regiment and were provided with matching tartan plaids as military uniform.
So the existence of these uniform tartans probably contributed to the myth of clan tartans, but in fact none of the tartans used were tied to any specific clan.
Correct it was brits in London that assigned Tartans to Clans. Hogan Eire.
Do they have one for Smith or Peterson?
Sounds like old school England, in make the world as home and country.
Ofcourse an attempt to crush Gaelic culture, the culture of our forebears, so that one may fall in-line with the new ideological structure.
😂😂 yea ok
Wait Scotland has clans? What im American so i have never heard of this
Did have
The ways in which the english have tried to culturally genocide celtic peoples never ceases to break my heart
they tried to force a jacobite king on england wales and ireland, raided england murdering women and children.. they even burnt a church full of english civilians, the scottish are lucky they still exist ... well they dont most of them are irish and should go back to ireland
Yeah. Look into it some further. You'd find most of those decisions made were made by Scots. The Highland clearances, the unification of kingdoms, the act of the union, all made by Scots. The battle of culloden was a Scottish civil war between Catholic and protestant Scots with English and Scots both fighting on both sides, but don't let facts get I'm the way of your romanticised version of history.
My history has it as being “invented” by the Geordie Mill owners, to replace the huge blankets worn by Scot’s, that were dangerous in Mills and Foundry.
I think I just feel in love with you. Sorry!
You're telling me that Outlander *lied* to me? 😢
What about Jacobite Plaid?
Was there any clans or families before Victoria that had a uniformed tartan
you'll never beat the redcoats mate...balmoral is capital of scotland
🤣 aye, whatever you say.
Clan tartans were a Georgian, rather than Victorian, invention; specifically, in 1815 as a misguided attempt by the Highland Society of London to preserve something that had not previously existed.
I am so pleased you came out with this true, the kilt was invented" by Victoria's husband, time someone educated the Americans.
This is the same pattern true Hebrews wore.
🤣🤣🤣 sure.
@@ianmacfarlane1241 Are you a Yid Devil?
I bet he's wearing underwear under that kilt you owe me a beer if you are