Metal detecting a hoard again - this time iron crosses - Live!
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
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It was fricking cold when I stumbled over a patch of forrest were it seems nobody had detected before me. I made a stunning discovery. And let the camera roll the whole time.
Please enjoy my first hunt of 2016 like I did- and I really did ;)
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Somewhere there’s a 95 year old soldier watching this saying JeezI didn’t think I would ever see those again!
...if that's the case, it would be nice to hear from them(!)
@@blackops6969696969 WTF why. Fucking idiot
@@nicebluemd7918 why what?
@@blackops6969696969 You said that soldier should burn in hell
This is incredible man, that you found these, I love that you are Preserveing history instead of destroying it like some people believe these days. You sir are Pretty Awesome.
"Come with me and I'll show you where the Iron Crosses grow."
Steiner 2 if I recall correct.
Günther Rall said. In ther German Luftwaffe you had the Chance to get an iron corss or a wooden cross
@@KlugscheisserDan No... Steiner said this to the German officer near the end of Cross of iron -- the first movie.... but as I was watching this, I thought the same thing.
Jes 🤝🏻👍
@Stinger4186 👍👍👍👍👍🤝🏻
This could be a site where medals were striped from German prisoners by the Red army.
You would think you would have more variety
For my money, they took them off and burnt or buried them so the Soviets wouldn’t get them
My guess is these were un-issued medals. That's why they're all second class. As someone else said - you would have more variety. He should have found wound badges etc. Would be interesting to know how these were dispersed during the war. Maybe some adjutant carried them around in an envelope and tossed it as he was being captured.
Burn site, someone tried to get rid of them.
This is what I thought!!
That or was an opposing soldiers kill count.
Or a graveyard
Idk
Wait no if it was a graveyard they would be farther away from each other
With the charcoal deposit I’m assuming they were burned judging by the way they are split in half?
That was my first thought
The 2nd class Iron Cross wasn't worn on the field uniform, only the 1st class and Knights cross were. Instead, it was represented by wearing the ribbon only through the tunic button hole or as a ribbon bar over the left chest pocket. The actual cross for the 2nd class was awarded in the field however by placing the cross through the button hole suspended by its ribbon. After the award ceremony, the cross itself was removed and not worn on the combat tunic. They would have been in light blue paper award packets unless removed by the presenter before bestowing them. Of course the packets, if originally present, have long since deteriorated to nothing as have the ribbons. These were probably intended for an awards ceremony in the field that never happened since they were all found in the same hole.
Die , die im Felde verliehen worden sind , sind auch getragen worden! Oft wurde die Öse entfernt und das EK direkt an die Uniform genäht!
You're very lucky. I dreamed to have one someday in my collection ( I don't care if it's very rusty). Nice find.
When you're freezing to death and starving on the frontlines and the führer sends a much needed airdrop of iron crosses.
One of the cargo planes that actually made it to the 6th Army contained crates of black pepper and a crate of condoms, hows that for planning and logistics ? Goring was a brilliant man and highly intelligent but you have to wonder at some of Germany's management !
Eh, more like they were afraid of being butchered, so they dropped gear and medalia. I suspect the glasses were in there because if caught, they would get abused on that alone, i remember the stories about the Russians during communism, glasses meant you're a target, imagine that'd be even worse in the field.
@@februaryninth3304 brilliant man my arse! A bloated egotist with a morphine addiction.
@@dodibenabba1378 ...THERE'S A FINE LINE BETWEEN GENIUS AND INSANITY!!
@@februaryninth3304 ...THE PROBLEM WAS THAT QUARTERMASTERS WERE NOT ALLOWED TO LOAD THE SUPPLY AIRPLANES-!!!
I’ll have to spare a bit but your videos have given me the push i needed to join the community of detectorist, as it’s something i could do despite my handicap... i can’t wait (i’ll have to as money is quite short) to find things and research them. From Belgium, Thank you!
I inspirated of metal detecting because of these videos, so i purchased metal detector to myself. :D Here Finland the ground is mostly on frost at the moment, however sandy beaches maybe will be doable. I have no pinpointer nor proper shovel yet, so let see, how it's working. :P
Wezzz any good findings?
I found this video again, and realized something about the Iron Crosses. The Knights Cross can be distinguished from the 1st and 2nd Class Crosses by the orientation of the attached loop, or its absence. The 2nd Class loop's openings face the sides of the cross. The 1st Class has no top loop (there will be a clasp or loops on the back for mounting), and the Knight has a loop where the openings face the crosses' front and back. All these differences conform to how each award is worn. The first cross you find is a 2nd Class... the rest I didn't get a good look at, but I suspect they are all 2nd Class. I'm reasonably certain that an adjutant or aide assigned to a high-ranking officer was charged with keeping the crosses for on-the-spot awards when the commander was touring hospitals and line units. Alternately, an awards ceremony was planned but never happened. The crosses were buried/abandoned for one of two reasons... to prevent the identification of the bearer, or to prevent the enemy from easy access to souvenirs. It's possible the awards were lost, but far more likely they were abandoned. Last, I can't believe you metal detect in that weather, and can't understand why the humid ground isn't frozen solid at those temperatures.
Warning: I was stationed in West Germany from 1977-1980. World War II unexploded ordnance was being found, sometimes the hard way, (KABOOM.) Digging up old battlefields can be dangerous. Don't die in a war that ended decades before you were born!
The round ring was your first clue it was an Iron Cross, 2nd Class (the size is also different). A Knight's Cross has a different "loop" the ribbon would go through. Still, how exciting to find pieces of history like that--makes you wonder why they were buried like that. Well done!
Man do I wish I could detect amd dig an area like this. I'd totally spend my spare time trying to perserve such historical objects.
Only detectable objects in my area maybe from when the US had a base stationed a couple hundred km from here.
I am however just a couple hours south of where the Vikings discovered North America(settle down Columbus, you were not the first white to be here). The area is one that has continuous wind bombardment carrying ocean salt with it so doubt any Viking metal would survive. There's plenty of bog areas that would perserve any artifacts but considering the Beothuk's were the majority of tye population here and were the actual demise of the Norseman's attempt at a settlement. I wish they would have lasted though, would have been great to had that as heritage, but thats just from a Viking at heart.
Why did their settlement not make it, well its -33 celcius here today with winds. I dont think I could make it here either without my modern wood/oil combo furnace.
This is my dream hobby! Where can i find locations like this where it’s allowed to Metal Detect?
@Aguila I’m searching in Poland and yes there are still somethings
Maybe officers who were about to be captured getting rid of stuff to show there rank or importance. It’s not uncommon for officers to do that. Great finds tho. I had the good fortune to detect on the western front a few years ago. Well done and hello from England 🏴
maybe..maybe not
RUclips should stop micromanaging and harassing people. After all without the video makers, RUclips would not exist. There are other venues where contributors are not harassed over BS.
ReclusiveMountainMan what are you banging on about?
ReclusiveMountainMan Amen!!!
Why would they through their iron crosses into the fire? We're they captured solders or did they know their days were numbered? Could be a mass grave close by. Wow! Lots of questions unanswered.
*finds pit full of iron crosses*
Says nothing
*finds shell*
"WOW STRANGE*
You have a point, may be this guy buried the crosses 1 year ago
@PABLO DAIZ CACERES no Thats just how he is!
Glad he corrected himself. None of those are Knight's Crosses...it's unlikely that 6 of these much rarer and highly valued awards would be left in a hole in the woods. The 3-million-fold EK2, however, that makes perfect sense. Pluse, you can see the distinctive EK2 ring clasp quite clearly.
"What the f**k is happening here?" Great vid - thank you from America!
Very great find !!
Guess those soldiers never got their crosses. Lol.
Looks like because of the charcoal, they were burned and buried , possibly just about to be caught by allied forces ????
What would they resell for each
Amazing love it .....
Just subscribed ......
Joe ..
I just posted that my grand father flew with the Escadrille and witnessed from the air a massive Russian assault squad captured about 190 German soldiers circa 1915 and about 40 of those German soldiers were officers. The Germans were stripped of their uniforms lined up and shot then dumped in one mass grave just outside of Berlin. Part of the German regiment was escorting evacuating civilians mostly women and children that were also slaughtered at different site and dumped in another mass grave site. Seeing this hoard of crosses and the Russian 7.62 shell and the charcoal which was probably used to burn the uniforms makes me think this guy is smack on top of where all those bodies are at in that grave site. My grand father helped German people search for this site circa 1955 without much luck he still had contact with many people he met during that war until his death in 1995. Yes they found weapons and helmets but not the grave site. Nobody has until this guy came along. The incident is documented all the pilots filed written reports on what happened.
@@thekingsilverado9004 may your grandfather Rest In Peace ! I sure hope that some day they will find the grave and give what they can find a proper burials ! Thank you for sharing your story ! I had an uncle who fought in WWII and one battle was the battle of the Bulge that I know for sure . That one he talked a little about sadly he has passed away years ago . Thank you again for sharing your story !
So nice that you get out and discover history making something good about this terrible war thank you so much for your videos
Great video and a GREAT find lucky 13, that's great Dan'.
This is first time I have seen one of your videos,I certainly picked the right one to watch,I was with you all the way,it was so exciting what a find ,and it all started with a broken pair of glasses.Thank you so much for a great video.Any one who goes out in weather like that deserves a medal(or 13).lol. wee gran.
Hi Janice, thank you very much for that encouraging comment! It´s much appreciated
All the best from sunny Berlin, Dan
Was stationed in Hohenfels, Germany. Looking to go back and detect & magnet hunt. Would love to catch up with you.
I was there for 3 weeks with the German Bundeswehr for practice. 😉
That first thing you found was probably sterling and it's a pin holder.
After the first one you said, "Let me change position. My knees are freezing."
The thrill of discovery must have warmed you up because as you found more and more you didn't have any more complaints.
Stannous Flouride Id do the same thing!
I have done it too ! Get carried away with the find and end up getting home sitting in front of the fireplace drinking hot coffee to warm up for maybe a hour or more ! Lol
The way to find out which one you have is to measure them all. A knights cross is bigger that the first class and a first class is bigger than the second class but the Grand Cross is bigger than all of them but there have been only three ever issued. Two were during WWI and Goering awarded himself with another during WWII.
1 and 2 are the same size.
Superior heer officers staff carried a number of IronCrosses to be given avoiding contacting the headquarters.
Thank you for unburying all the history and keeping its spirit alive rather than it slowing deteriorating under ground
Stuff is not history. The story associated with the stuff is the history.
Oct 2019 this was in my feed, enjoyed it, very interesting stuff. Keep up the good work. Subscribed after checking out your channel : )
Glad you are back Dan!!!! You seem to have a nose for crosses. Thanks for sharing
Wow!!!!! amazing find!!!! would love to know the story behind those!!!!!I love history...... can you just imagine what those have been through...... great video find!!!!!
Somebody threw them in a fire, see the ashes? A large pile of crosses. Crazy...
It's possible that they got rid of them before surrendering believing that they would be treated badly if the enemy knew. Especially if they were surrendering to the soviets.
I clicked on it because it reminded me of a story I´ve heard from a Bavarian peasant, who found two big buckets full of dogtags belonging to Italian soldiers from a group that went without a trace. I hope that if you find anything indicating a mass murder, that you report it. There are still too many corpses without proper burials.
Wow, incredible find! However, I don’t think those are Knights Crosses. The ring you found indicates an Iron Cross 2nd Class. The Knights Cross had these peculiar “paper clip” like loops for the neck ribbon. However, I might be wrong in this.
Hi! It was nearest some old Fabric when they're left them behind ? When I was kid , we found so many items from Germany in City in Gablonz ( Jablonec nad Nisou in my Country .. We have no idea .
I don't think they tried to get rid of them. It's more likely this was a headquarters location. German higher headquarters (battalion and higher) usually had a lot of EKIIs and possibly some EKIs at regimental or division level to award them in the field. Also, Germans in the field didn't wear the cross part of EKIIs. They only wore the ribbon through a buttonhole on the jackets.
The location indicates no headquarters or any kind of position at all, but it is in an greater area of were the remains of the 9th army was annihilated. They were forced to fight till the last man( it is mentioned in the movie the downfall).
Those cheaply produced EK2 were given out to especially young soldiers like candy to hold up the "moral" of the troop.
My theory why I found thirteen crosses in the middle of the forrest is that: after it was all nearly over a lot of soldiers/officers came to reason and tried to save their skin by removing their rank insignia and all items that would give them away as decision makers to blend in with the mass of ordinary soldiers.(like Himmler did).
So what do you do with a lot of yet not awarded bravery medals in the face of certain capture by the one enemy you fear the most cause you devastated his country slaved it´s population and starved over the three quarters of their pows?
@@KlugscheisserDan I agree they were unissued ones. Yes, I know they gave out EKIIs to almost everyone in the closing days of the war. One old veteran I was friends with in the 1980s was irritated by it because he felt it cheapened the awards other soldiers had earned earlier. He was an NCO and Oberfeldwebel at the end with EKII and EKI, AND a Deutsches Kreuz in Gold. Emil Filsinger. I was also friends with a Ritterkreuztraeger, Heinz Ballreich, in the same little town. I was a career US soldier and already a combat veteran myself back then, so I was accepted into their ,Stammtisch' group as a younger Brother Veteran. I learned a LOT about the reality of the war in the German Army from them. I already knew it from the American side.
What type of metal detector are you using ? It looks hand held size?
Absolutely stunning. Great recoveries 👍
This is so brilliant. I liked it lots when you got really pumped and did proper swear words. Thank you for sharing your raw excitement. :-) :-)
My bet is the crosses were in a box stored at the command post and command post was blown up and caught on fire. The wooden box burned giving the charcoal.
Thank you for sharing your videos and what you find. My father was in the Army Air Corp during WWII. I wish he were alive to see what you are finding it would be so exciting to him!
Today my grandfather gave me 2 well preserved ww1 iron crosses, mabey second class. Still have the ribbons too.
did they too many iron crosses ? i think they dump them then go hidden anywhere when war is over ?
Guten tag Dan! Such a lucky find! Do you ever use a gps to mark these locations where you find cashes of things like this, and then try to find out from historic records what happened in that area? I would think commanding officers would keep records of what they did each day, who died, was captured, and where these things occured, etc. Have you found burials with bones and metal artifacts with them? I'm new to your channel, and subscribed just now....
I'd love to detect in Europe, especially some old battle sites such as you do.
nice vids, nice finds.
In my opinion I think those EK2s were from a box or packet of unissued awards that were thrown away and burnt - possibly near the war's end when they were of no use anymore, and perhaps the German troops were withdrawing knowing that the end was near? - Still, it was an amazing find.
The first object is part of a chatelaine...most lightly for sewing needles. Two other pieces are missing...& the bar that held them
huggs silky
Dan, What Happened? How Come You Are Not Making Anymore Videos. I Enjoy Them. Still Watch Them Over & Over.
Dan finds the pickle barrel, awesome!!! Doesn't matter if they're broken, still an incredible, exciting video. WooHoo
Great finds! I think there were only less than 8000 Knight cross have been issued during the WWII. It is very rare you can find so many Knight cross metals in one place.Cheers!👍💪
MY GOD! I would love just one piece of NAZI history and you just pulled out a german Scheiße load of crosses! :D
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Some was soo pissed they tried to burn them and melt them down. Maybe they belonged to some POWs. Where were they found ? Along the estern front.
Such a ammazing dream finds Nice video
Who else is reading the comments while watching this? 2018
Michele Conley always it’s right to cooments
Michele Conley 2019
Me too.
2019 :/
No it’s 2019
why are they bunched up in one spot?Did they have a recipient ?Did some general dump them before he was captured?Were the guys getting them already dead ? Did the Russians bury them?
I going digging for old bottle anx you found glass and ash. Did you dig deeper. I reckon there be old bottles
Not sure how I ended up here, as an ex-archaeologist, the handling of the artefacts is giving me a sphincter factor of 10.
archaeobard1 haha yeah a trowel and some dental tools and some light handling would benefit this.
Sphincter factor of ten?? Could it make diamonds? Lmao
I enjoyed watching you find the iron crosses that had to feel awesome
Did you thinking about that it can be a mass grave that you was digging in and people were burned there, this is why you can see so much ash under the ground?
Be careful what you say, write or listen to... Next I'm thinking, they'll be controlling our thoughts. I must be old because the stuff I was taught growing up was wrong, they now say is right, and everything that was right is now wrong. It makes my head hurt, lol
John Ballard The EU UN all Zionist media NGOs and borderless charities must be disbanded for Europe to keep it's European cultural heritage identity and have a peaceful future.
John Ballard hey, the US are developing something to control our thoughts
@william hunter your right just look at the television shows and the advertisements now days ! Subliminal messages are illegal but now they just put it right in your face everywhere ! Not just on TV it is everywhere radio , newspapers all kinds of mass media ! In between fake news and other BS causing hate against one another ! I call it military 101 divide and conquer ! Dummy people with a bunch of BS and get them to fight amongst themselves so they won't help each other out ! Thank you on the info about the book as I will check it out !
Where are you located in this film?
To be clear, these are 2nd class IRON crosses, not Knights crosses. A difference of the loop, a few millimetres and several thousand pounds!
I feel SO EXCITED almost as if I was Pulling those Knight Crosses myself!!!
Goring promised them food, he gave them Iron Crosses. Looks like an air drop, it would seem to be more mixed (a mix of different awards) if it was a site the Red Army removed them from POW's. All the same thing would be possible air drop.
Your first find is an etui which is a decorative needle case. It is very lovely too.
I didn't know the cold bothered metal detectors.that cold is what those poor soles had to fight in terriable,I feel very bad for them.
they wanted these gone clearly on the run from the allies
Not ripped from captured German soldiers before they were murdered? Or taken from dead German soldiers and dumped by the souvenir hunter, not wanting to have to explain how he got them to the Germans who have just captured him?
My god you are the luckiest dude ive ever seen, definitely subbed. Be careful out there my friend you may find live ordinance....
"I will show you where the Iron crosses bloom" (Sgt. Steiner to Col. Stransky in 'Iron Cross')
Sgt. Steiner actually says: "and I will show you where the Iron Crosses grow".
Brilliant find ,I collect ww2 artifacts so a find like this is amazing.
What he had found first, and second, are EK II... Knights Cross was only awarded by the Fuhrer.. Usually,EK II was worn instead of Knights Cross, on front
I reckon they hadn't even been handed out, an officer in charge of giving them out has burnt them whilst on the run. You wouldn't have had that many Iron Crosses given out in one platoon. What dates were on them?
That´s what I think too their dates are all 1939 but from the poor quality you can easily determine them as last days of war effort to hold up the morale especially for very young soldiers.
You could rebuild the German war machine with that much iron!
But first he needs oil
Amazing! I would love to see these cleaned up!
I didn´t clean them.
@@KlugscheisserDan you can clean them restore them and sell them....
It looks like you found an officers supply of medals that he buried so the enemy wouldn't get them. There is a group on youtube that recovers remains of soldiers and they came across a bunch of these medals. Where is this?
Did someone not need their glasses any more, or was the person shot and all his things burned.
A dumping ground for Iron Crosses. Maybe while fleeing, or someone had them and dumped them.
Really enjoyed the vids! Keep up the great work! Love history.
Hmm, a large number of iron crosses and some russian ammo in the same hole. Perhaps it does not take a genius to deuce that those crosses were trophies collected by a russian soldier.
Hi Dan, my heart is pumping so hard :)
Seek a doctor, you're having a stroke
@@DinoNucci good one !!!!!
My guess is an officer tasked with awarding these medals near the end of the war said to hell with it, threw his bag of medals down and went home.
A very likely scenario.
not likely. more likely medals torn from uniforms by their enemy
(for those who've posted about seeing this one before)
We should be thanking Dan for performing a FREE, and costly medical exam(s) for sight and memory ;-) I'd mention hearing, but if your THAT GOOD, kudos lol!
Some of you, failed the reading test LOL
I can't believe YT is that nit picky, I mean I've watched several videos, backwards lol
Stay safe!
LOVE IT!
GL & HH
Vonda Hartsock-Oneil Hitler took Rothschild money.
Very cool, Dan. Do you sell any of your finds on ebay?
Now thats rock n roll mate, cheers ♠🍺♠
Where about was this finding? And would you be willing to sell an Iron cross.
Hey guys Please help!
I’ve always wanted an iron cross to display but the real ones are far too expensive and i cant seem to find a site that makes good reproductions... any suggestions?
Are those available ???
Doubtful these are Knights Crosses but actually Iron Crosses First Class which also had a metal ring and were worn under the second button on first occasion of awarding it and ceremonial there after.
To find in close proximity that many iron crosses it's amazing you haven't stumbled upon nazi gold.
No unfortunately not.
I half expected some bones next.
Nice findings, too bad I live in a small country in which there was no big battles (except battle of Mojkovac) so I do not know where to search for those things :/
Dan, I always love watching your video on your find on the night crosses, I must of watch it loads of times. Well done to you.
Called a "housewife" for sewing needles.Art deco/nouveau?
Are they still worth anything in that condition ?
Actually I saw them being sold in that condition for 35€
Why should I bury them again?
@@KlugscheisserDan Cool ,i would be happy to have them in that cond ,i used to dig old 1860 gold camp sites for old bottles etc ,,loved it .A lady i was with once pull an old pair of miners trousers out that was preserved in the clay & she stuck her hand in pocket & pull out a 1860,s full gold sovereign you just don't know what you could find ..
What ? A copyright infringement ? Well, I'll have to watch it again I now un-see the first one. LOL Oh Dan, they might try to nail you for the music (Johnny Cash) intro.
No they tried to nail me for outro. I remixed the intro so I assume they can´t trace it. But you´ll never know
Yeah, I hear you, one never knows with these new youtube standards.
Charles Wilson Peale no they tried to nail me for the outro which i had to remove. Surprisingly the intro is fun ne