Coarse sand is good for covering services usually covered in marked paving bricks. Concrete is usually comparatively expensive unless you need to buy a minimum volume. Also sand helps with drainage. Were I to do this I would cover the pipe in well compacted river sand then marked paving then crushed sandstone also well compacted in layers then compacted roadbase then the concrete slab. I'd hate to do a cbr on that ground it looks like mushy fill. Maybe I'm a little paranoid about things as I used to do testing on the compacted fill for the roads on new roads and building sites.
Those houses look very familiar! I used to live in that area, and we had to have a raft for our extension (the exisitng house wasn't on a raft though!) The builder described the earth as being like blancmange.
@SteveAndAlexBuild. Thank you for this video on the continuing saga of the “leaning” porch. I hope this is not too much of a stupid question. Do you still need to use those agitator/vibrator wands when pouring big(ger) volumes of concrete - say for foundations? I can only think that these devices were used to drive out air pockets? Maybe certain concrete mixes and more modern ingredients in the mix means you don’t need to in the 21st century - but I am just guessing. Keep up the good work fellas. Stay safe and well.
Would you not consider a small digger one of those ali express jobies with all attachments save Alex and your backs stveve and you can drag it around with your van 🤔
Hope you've had your hip done by now Steve. Had mine done 3 weeks ago. The difference is incredible and well worth the pain and discomfort of the op. I'd say you'll be back building within 6 weeks of having yours done no problem. Modern medical methods are unbelievable. Good luck to you and Alex going forward. 👍
Hey lads! Building mine as we speak I’m doing concrete blocks outside skin and thermalites inside skin porch will have main door and an internal door into the house what do you set the cavity at ? And do you just sit and dab inside ? Would really appreciate your help 🙏
@@DeanW-1990a porch in England and Wales is typically exempt building regs if under 30m2 and thermally separated from the house (so retaining an external quality insulated door between house and porch and no heating in the porch). Under 3m2 and a porch often doesn't require planning either.
My word Steve you certainly pick some jobs , you nearly saw kangaroos at the bottom of that hole. Joking aside, that was filthy ground I certainly would not have enjoyed digging that. Alex was rushing around being busy and showing who was boss I dont know the other chaps name but he was going like stink. A very good video I enjoyed it immensely thanks. Best regards as ever Ken.
@@SteveAndAlexBuild I just think you could have saved half the expensive concrete by filling the bottom of the trench with some limestone ballast, then placing a basic reinforcement in the concrete.
The extra expense of the steel would have cancelled out any saving on concrete plus all the extra hard work barrowing in the stone then wackering it then picking up steel mesh , then cutting it to size then placing it. Trench fill concrete all day long 🧱👍🏽
@@SteveAndAlexBuild Thank you for troubling to reply. There are many ways to "skin a cat" and what you have done suits your operation, but I would have saved more than half the concrete by using ballast and reinforcement, especially on clay ground. Interesting video, as always.
2 people can lift a wheelbarrow to tip into the skip. Then you dont have to dig everything twice. Also why stand in the trench to dig the top 2ft when you can be at ground level, work backwards and throw straight into the skip off the shovel?
Wasn't that 2nd skip a bit on the smll size to use as a bathtub for a big boss like you? Also, why would you want a bacon butty instead of a hearty meal of bubble and squeak and a pint of brown ale?
No wonder the porch failed , slab on grade on poor soil. You think maybe there’s a reason for a proper footing and foundation. I wonder how some contractors sleep at night. Best mates
Cracking job as always .Trench fill concrete is definitely better .very soft ground that but you all did a great job digging to harder ground. Did you have to charge more to the customer Steve 👍🧱🧱💯
@SteveAndAlexBuild Good news then Steve 🤣👍.Anything can happen in the ground .we price up and make it clear then if we need to go deeper etc we can charge extra for it .It's all explained before work begins soft ground or building control changes etc . Glad you got it all right mate 👍 🙌💯
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Dug a big hole and filled it with concrete. Ingenius 🙄
Wow you watched then took the time to write that . Congrats 👏🏽
@@SteveAndAlexBuild Your a cowboy don't know what your doing and rough
I think the word you were looking for was ingenious - which is a great compliment to the lads 😊
And you can’t spell genius 🤣🤣🖕🏾
Cheers jan 🧱👍🏽
Coarse sand is good for covering services usually covered in marked paving bricks. Concrete is usually comparatively expensive unless you need to buy a minimum volume. Also sand helps with drainage. Were I to do this I would cover the pipe in well compacted river sand then marked paving then crushed sandstone also well compacted in layers then compacted roadbase then the concrete slab. I'd hate to do a cbr on that ground it looks like mushy fill. Maybe I'm a little paranoid about things as I used to do testing on the compacted fill for the roads on new roads and building sites.
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Always split duct services running through concrete and add a spare for future use.
Er no
I love hard work, I could watch it all day, good job
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Nice wall rebuild that Steve. Blends in well. No wonder the "footings" failed 😱
Shite behaviour Doug 😒🧱👍🏽
Great Teamwork 👍👍Coming together nicely 👍👍
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Those houses look very familiar! I used to live in that area, and we had to have a raft for our extension (the exisitng house wasn't on a raft though!) The builder described the earth as being like blancmange.
Sounds about right 😩🧱👍🏽
great job as always guys.
Thanks again Eddie 🧱👍🏽
@SteveAndAlexBuild. Thank you for this video on the continuing saga of the “leaning” porch. I hope this is not too much of a stupid question. Do you still need to use those agitator/vibrator wands when pouring big(ger) volumes of concrete - say for foundations? I can only think that these devices were used to drive out air pockets? Maybe certain concrete mixes and more modern ingredients in the mix means you don’t need to in the 21st century - but I am just guessing. Keep up the good work fellas. Stay safe and well.
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Good job guys .. finding good ground can feel like finding the jackpot 😁 nice work
You’re not kidding Jay 🤩🤩🧱👍🏽
Bring back the days before the internet. So many reasons.
Even more reasons to keep it .
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I like the finish your Homemade tamper leaves.
Cheers 🧱👍🏽
Great job lads nice to see proper builders do a great job well done
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Hi great vid. I know it built under permitted development but Did you have to inform the council at all?
Cheers. No we were replacing like for like 🧱👍🏽
A porch is exempt from Building Regulations so long as it remains thermally separated from dwelling with existing front door.
@malcolmclark5043 🧱👍🏽
I really think you guys need to invest in a mini digger👍
We have a PayPal account feel free to donate the money for a mini digger
I agree or bloody hire one dirt ,,,, cheap
To dig a porch ? Not worth the extra cost to the customer
hello there guy's are you having fun😄👍
I was 😉🧱👍🏽
Hi just noticed going by the Ormskirk skips hire , that your possibly local to Lancashire/ Merseyside maybe 🤔? , let me know !!👍🏻
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Would you not consider a small digger one of those ali express jobies with all attachments save Alex and your backs stveve and you can drag it around with your van 🤔
Nope absolutely not 🧱👍🏽
It makes more sense to get a digger to dig footings
@nigelhaines7900 not for a porch
@@SteveAndAlexBuild Stop being so tite hahaha
At least with hand digging you're not so liable to destroy services.
is that big deep concrete base a must for a porch? or it was just for this one?
Just this one 🧱👍🏽
Over kill and over charged if you ask me. Those footings were for an extension not a porch!
@patrickdaly2121 . Nobody asked you .
Did you do the original ones that sank ?
@@patrickdaly2121wait till he replaces the driveway, going to need 20 concrete trucks...😂
Why ?
What a bunch of 🤠 ‘s
It wasn’t good 😩🧱👍🏽
a great job being done and what a depth you had to go to to get solid ground I wonder what the house is on , Thanks for the video
Cheers Eddie 🙌🏽🧱🤙🏾
Nice one Steve and Alex 👍👍 did you still have to get building inspector out to check or wasn’t they needed for such a s,all job sorry if missed 🙌🏻
No inspection on this one 🧱👍🏽
Who built the original porch? Windowtec?
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Nice work Lads so was that a sewer pipe when you were digging down 4 foot?
Cheers .. no pipes 🧱👍🏽
Hope you've had your hip done by now Steve. Had mine done 3 weeks ago. The difference is incredible and well worth the pain and discomfort of the op. I'd say you'll be back building within 6 weeks of having yours done no problem. Modern medical methods are unbelievable. Good luck to you and Alex going forward. 👍
Be lucky if it’s done within 12 months . Been waiting 14 now 😔
I am ex nhs. You should make an appointment to see your MP and state your case. He should sort it they carry a lot of clout with the nhs.
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Dang, my sewer pipe is 8’ down. I have split in pipe. $$$ to fix.
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What were the services? You just concreted them in the footings with no protection. Just curious.
The lead pipe is dead and the electric cable was protected 🧱👍🏽
@@SteveAndAlexBuild Thanks for the quick reply. 👍
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It's only 1.2 M.
Not really an issue, to dig down to that.
Solid pier ?
@@SteveAndAlexBuild My mistake.
Good work, by the way, ex trowel.
No probs 🤙🏾. Thanks for watching and commenting 🧱👍🏽
How far down do you have to dig your footings!??
This one was 4 feet 🧱👍🏽
@@SteveAndAlexBuildthat nuts, in the us. We probably would go half that!
Crap ground 🧱👍🏽
Hey lads! Building mine as we speak I’m doing concrete blocks outside skin and thermalites inside skin porch will have main door and an internal door into the house what do you set the cavity at ? And do you just sit and dab inside ? Would really appreciate your help 🙏
We have done a 50 mm cavity for space.
we are dot n dabbing the boards inside
good luck 🧱👍🏽
@@SteveAndAlexBuild thanks mate, do building control not want you to insulate it ? I thought I had to do 150mm cavity insulation 🤯
@DeanW-1990 . Not in a porch under 3 m square 🧱👍🏽
@@SteveAndAlexBuild So you leave a clear 50mm cavity and don’t insulate the porch what so ever ?
@@DeanW-1990a porch in England and Wales is typically exempt building regs if under 30m2 and thermally separated from the house (so retaining an external quality insulated door between house and porch and no heating in the porch). Under 3m2 and a porch often doesn't require planning either.
Wrong choice of word there Steve, competent 😂😂
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My word Steve you certainly pick some jobs , you nearly saw kangaroos at the bottom of that hole.
Joking aside, that was filthy ground I certainly would not have enjoyed digging that. Alex was rushing around being busy and showing who was boss I dont know the other chaps name but he was going like stink.
A very good video I enjoyed it immensely thanks.
Best regards as ever Ken.
Jason and lex make a great team 😁🧱👍🏽
All that lovely topsoil 3 ft down . Lol
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Why do you not use any bar reinforcement in the concrete, especially when working on "dodgy" clay ground?
No Need
@@SteveAndAlexBuild I just think you could have saved half the expensive concrete by filling the bottom of the trench with some limestone ballast, then placing a basic reinforcement in the concrete.
The extra expense of the steel would have cancelled out any saving on concrete plus all the extra hard work barrowing in the stone then wackering it then picking up steel mesh , then cutting it to size then placing it.
Trench fill concrete all day long 🧱👍🏽
@@SteveAndAlexBuild Thank you for troubling to reply. There are many ways to "skin a cat" and what you have done suits your operation, but I would have saved more than half the concrete by using ballast and reinforcement, especially on clay ground. Interesting video, as always.
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Do you reckon that wall is the remains of a Roman fort
Definitely 👍🏽
8:47 - the word is industrious
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We have free location for utilities. If you damage it, you pay.
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Sole destroying moving the spoil twice and costly too
No choice if you’re waiting on a skip swap
Im a builder and i notice its the wjat looks like the older guy doing all the digging?
Nope
Building on clay? That moves more than anything!
Well that’s all we’ve got 😒🧱👍🏽
The whole house is on a clay footing, as long as the clay does not alter it's moisture content that much it should be fine.
Gaz UK.
@Gazr965 🧱👍🏽
Jimmy Hoffa may be under somebody’s porch.
Who ?
2 people can lift a wheelbarrow to tip into the skip. Then you dont have to dig everything twice. Also why stand in the trench to dig the top 2ft when you can be at ground level, work backwards and throw straight into the skip off the shovel?
You work your way and we will work ours . No biggy
As he had his hip done yet
Nope 😒🥺🧱👍🏽
Forgot the outro again Alex.😂
Nope just too busy 🧱👍🏽
How come you are not signing off the videos now? Enjoying the videos a lot though.
To be honest they are a waste of time , very few people watch that long and even less listen and even less bother to act on it 😔🧱🧱👍🏽
Don't work to hard will ya 👍
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Wasn't that 2nd skip a bit on the smll size to use as a bathtub for a big boss like you? Also, why would you want a bacon butty instead of a hearty meal of bubble and squeak and a pint of brown ale?
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No wonder the porch failed , slab on grade on poor soil. You think maybe there’s a reason for a proper footing and foundation. I wonder how some contractors sleep at night. Best mates
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Good luck to the unlucky one that ever might have to change that pipe.
Why would you change a dead pipe
All that for a bloody porch.I wouldn't have bothered.
Well we did
Omg it's not self levelling concrete bloody hell. You're supposed to be brickies. Use a level on your footings
Nobody said it was .
Bloody hell !!
You didn’t see us putting levels in with a laser level then as we do on every job then ?!
Again, the intro spoils it for me....
Skip it then
I do....
@@SteveAndAlexBuild 😂 Simply put!
I do it seems to be the trend, lots of RUclipsrs do this spoils it for me as well.
Agreed - I always skip the intro... Don't see the point 🤷🏻♂️
Thanks very much 🤜🏾🤛🏾🧱👍🏽
No Re Bar or mesh ??
Nope
Here in the States we're using fiberglass in concrete instead of rebar for some jobs.
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Cracking job as always .Trench fill concrete is definitely better .very soft ground that but you all did a great job digging to harder ground.
Did you have to charge more to the customer Steve 👍🧱🧱💯
I actually priced this one quite well for a change Justin 🤣🤣
I allowed 2 days to demo and dig and allowed f or 2 cube of conc which was spot on 👌🏼😍🧱👍🏽
@SteveAndAlexBuild
Good news then Steve 🤣👍.Anything can happen in the ground .we price up and make it clear then if we need to go deeper etc we can charge extra for it .It's all explained before work begins soft ground or building control changes etc .
Glad you got it all right mate 👍 🙌💯
Yeah mate we ve started doing that .
Covers everyone 👌🏼🧱👍🏽