The craziest thing is even with these changes and tank buffs, Cho’Gath is actually heavily underperforming, he’s below a 47% win rate across the board. But yet Godzu makes it look like it’s 100%😂
I mean, Cho is still really good in long games, but there are tanks that do a better job, mainly due to their kits, most Tanks are excellent teamfighters, with kits that allow them to peel for carries or hard engage into the enemy, or both, Cho does not have those tools, while he can certainly tank more damage than anyone else once he reaches a certain point, with champions like Ornn or Maokai, you dont need to tank as much damage because you have enough setup to let your team deal as much damage as necessary.
the reason cho under performs in WR% is due to the heavy incentive and ability to get kills. the gold that would normally go to the bursty dmg role is instead funneled into a immobile tank. sadly the best part about cho is also the worst. if they gave cho mobility of any sort he would become god, but as he is now he relys on poor enemy dodging to win the game.
@@petrusv8752 The problem is that you cant really give mobility to a champion that not only scales infinitely on his tankiness, but that said hp scaling also directly enhances his ult true damage
the teammates in this game are astounding to me. you have a chogath with dragon health and 29 kills and your response is to not group with them until the match is nearly over
@@felicianonatalini chog r scales with ap and health along with all of his other abilities. I usually take titanic on tanks but cho and Zac are the exceptions
Literal example of why RIOT shouldn't expect people to carry games. Team games are expected, maybe perhaps having someone catrying it. But it does absolutely nothing if your team is trash. Only mildly good one in that was Brand. Honestly, Godzu, you are a beast for holding that long. This is the reason that I quit playing though, as I always get stuck with games like this. It isn't fun when you get a lot of kills, but end up losing cause no one knows how to defend objective.
Damn. Not only do you carry ur whole team with basically pure tank build, you did it with two literal trolls and feeders in it. Thats just huge. I cant get behind how stupid enemy team was tho.
I was thinking that, like at that point if you sold the a few items for demonics, Titanic, and sunfire, keep Heartsteel obvi, Abyssal and do force of nature for movespeed…the hp scaling synergy lol
He got lucky with the matchup. Most fed member was Sylas who had to go melee range on him. 2nd most fed was MF which was low mobility ADC. That was why he didn't have to build the dmg items and instead went full tank. The other three all had to go in close either way, so yeah, ChoGath dream matchup right there. It would've been hell if he had to fight range. Still nice video showing power of the combo but kinda think this wouldn't have been this close if enemy team just played macro.
44:57 "imagine if I had a team", I skipped to the mid game part of the video and you had a full build and 8k farm, and yet kept farming..... So much for the team spirit :D
I really really wish you built a demonic embrace instead of Gargoyles so that your Q and W go from no damage cc abilities to like 500 damage a piece because you will have like 200 ap or some shit
@@Mori-man demonic doesn't even give that much hp. Now it's more an ap item them a bruiser mage item. And on liandry's. I'm talking about the burn. Along with the shadow flame. Those are giving bonus to each other. Since the liandry's is half amount of the demonic burn it gives a small bonus. Plus the shadowflame magic pen burn gives a buff to the burns. So if not these 3 together, demonic barely usefull.
@@GhoulBandit Shit your serous! I can't believe it. 450 is actually generally considered a lot of HP for an item, mate. The burn isn't a negative, but it's also not needed to build it. Getting that much AP on an item that gives more HP than most tank items is enough, holy shit!
out of boredom, i mathed out some numbers. i acknowledge that for demonic and sunfire there would be some minor discrepancies in the numbers, but titanic isn’t. with de or titanic, you would have had ~286 ap/ad and sunfire would have dealt around 265 damage without it ramping itself up, ~424 when it hits max damage increase, per second.
Titanic Hydra should have been bought here. Imagine the ad scaling you would recieve with 16 K hp. You could probably have oneshot the squishies together with the Heartsteel bonus damage effect.
Im starting to think that HP doesnt mean shit. Because even when he had 16K Hp. He would still take 400 damage autos from MF. And take 500+ damage per auto from sylas. He would stil die just as fast as if he was a 5K HP chogath. TANK ARE STILL USELESS AS LONG AS ANTI-TANK ITEMS STAY AS STRONGS AS THEY ARE NOW.
Last season, i felt like we already had a tank meta. but with these changes and especially with introducing this heartsteel item, the gamedevs broke the game completely imho
That Sylas is the typical EU Mid. Gets fed off of dumb early stuff, gets an ego, starts inting for kills and lose his lead, gets tilted and ints for the loss.
"Imagine, if I had a team"-said Godzu playing 1 v 9
Bro had same amount of hp as baron💀💀
bro was baron
Bro was barons husband
And like Baron, he was taken down by a team.
True what the fuck
@@ImaskarDonotaken down by 2 teams
The most shocking thing Is that the enemy team had still the most kills, while your team without you had a sum of 26
LMAO
The only way to do this good on a chogath is with a crappy team otherwise the enemy team would FF asap
Crazy how Sylas kept fighting thinking he would get the kill. Just shows how busted they think he is
The craziest thing is even with these changes and tank buffs, Cho’Gath is actually heavily underperforming, he’s below a 47% win rate across the board. But yet Godzu makes it look like it’s 100%😂
yea these changes made tanks over all more op, but cho still has some underperformaneces, it seems like cho rework gonna be a blast!
I mean, Cho is still really good in long games, but there are tanks that do a better job, mainly due to their kits, most Tanks are excellent teamfighters, with kits that allow them to peel for carries or hard engage into the enemy, or both, Cho does not have those tools, while he can certainly tank more damage than anyone else once he reaches a certain point, with champions like Ornn or Maokai, you dont need to tank as much damage because you have enough setup to let your team deal as much damage as necessary.
@@gastonzamora4985 I personally think sion manages to tank more dmg than cho'gath usually, his W passive is very fun
the reason cho under performs in WR% is due to the heavy incentive and ability to get kills. the gold that would normally go to the bursty dmg role is instead funneled into a immobile tank. sadly the best part about cho is also the worst. if they gave cho mobility of any sort he would become god, but as he is now he relys on poor enemy dodging to win the game.
@@petrusv8752 The problem is that you cant really give mobility to a champion that not only scales infinitely on his tankiness, but that said hp scaling also directly enhances his ult true damage
That Pyke was a double agent all game long
the teammates in this game are astounding to me. you have a chogath with dragon health and 29 kills and your response is to not group with them until the match is nearly over
imagine how much damage you would've got if you got demonic embrace 😱
Or titanic or both
Or sunfide, he would've been radioactive
16500 x 2 / 100 = would be... 330ap or 380ad if you buy titanic, I would have bought the titanic imo
@@felicianonatalini chog r scales with ap and health along with all of his other abilities. I usually take titanic on tanks but cho and Zac are the exceptions
You played a lot better than I did in my best Cho'gath game, I got x23 feast
thats impressive as well bro, wp
@@Godzu thanks
it was a tough matchup for me, great 1v9 from you, the team didn't demand, hope to see you again in top lane
☝🏻
Shaco?
Tough is ...16k health ? My god what's an easy one ???
Literal example of why RIOT shouldn't expect people to carry games. Team games are expected, maybe perhaps having someone catrying it. But it does absolutely nothing if your team is trash. Only mildly good one in that was Brand. Honestly, Godzu, you are a beast for holding that long. This is the reason that I quit playing though, as I always get stuck with games like this. It isn't fun when you get a lot of kills, but end up losing cause no one knows how to defend objective.
Fr bro
this ideo shows hows my games looks like like 80% of the time (gold 3)
Same here. I just play ARAM from time to time now. If you have like 5 friends to play against 5 that is fun. LOL is dead game.
Wish you would have went sunfire as well. The damage would have been insane, and it's not a mythic anymore
+1 I got 120 dmg per sec on sunfire when playing chog + this item still have stackable dmg soo at max stacks sunfire have 60% more dmg.
And demonic. Get like 250 AP from it with that much health.
Titanic hydra too for ad
@@tomaszproblem4875 I went to practice tool and stacked myself up to just under 16k and sunfire damage was 404 I believe. And demonic gave me 270 ap
@@dark_bs1112 chogath doesnt need ad tho he needs ap
Damn. Not only do you carry ur whole team with basically pure tank build, you did it with two literal trolls and feeders in it. Thats just huge. I cant get behind how stupid enemy team was tho.
thats why i dont like ranked , because if you do such a nice performance, the game will not honor you.
Imagine Sett use his ult on 16k HP Cho'Gath and throw him onto the ADC :)
That's satisfying ☺
Cho gath with 15% hp left
"I'm not really low bro, I have more hp than you".
Imagine a titanic hydra. You'd be auto attacking for 1k damage.
Or demonic embrace
I was thinking that, like at that point if you sold the a few items for demonics, Titanic, and sunfire, keep Heartsteel obvi, Abyssal and do force of nature for movespeed…the hp scaling synergy lol
He could've just anathema chained the mf and fully built mr, ignoring the damage of the whole enemy team and building fon and abyssal
Fun fact: Did you know that the mass of the sun is only 1/10 of Godzu's team ?
Cho gats win rate after godzu plays him 📈
The least tanky chogath be like:
The most impressive thing here is getting a game to last more than 20 minutes lol
Imagine Demonic with that hp xD
This just shows how riot has 200+ game design
I played once against a similar cho' gath in aram, that piece of suit literally tanked our base... an I'm still traumatized.
at some point demonic embrace would be a game changer
Now this is a Raid Boss.
Yes, thanks Godzu this is the perfect chogath heartsteel video!
dude turned himself into a playable raid boss, bro
scariest shit I've ever seen
I wanna see Vayne fight this
I wanna see AP Varus hit that for 20K magic damage. :D
I want to see Fiora melting all tanks lol
Gwen better
Zed is literally Inting and trolling the game and guess what? RIOT WILL NOT BAN HIM.
6:00 free real estate meme
Gg vebs
The thing is u only deal damage to them because of E and myth, if the enemys had more iq you'll kil 1-2 max. the damage without sunfire is low
He got lucky with the matchup. Most fed member was Sylas who had to go melee range on him. 2nd most fed was MF which was low mobility ADC. That was why he didn't have to build the dmg items and instead went full tank. The other three all had to go in close either way, so yeah, ChoGath dream matchup right there.
It would've been hell if he had to fight range. Still nice video showing power of the combo but kinda think this wouldn't have been this close if enemy team just played macro.
33:56 Man... Cho'gath here making herald feel inadequate.
Jax: Imagine if I had a real weapon...
Godzu: imagine if I had a real team (facepalm)!
My man inted like never before he didn't buy demonic embrace
6:49 Watch your wording there
31:53 Bonk! to Pyke 🤣
44:57 "imagine if I had a team", I skipped to the mid game part of the video and you had a full build and 8k farm, and yet kept farming..... So much for the team spirit :D
Lmao literally! People only think about their own gold
More like “imagine if I didn’t take 80% of the gold on the map”
Imagine having titanic hydra with that hp
Tbh, you are that type of teammate that keeps bullying
(Also does a great job)
So in the end Shaco, who completely lost the lane, has won the game.
Godzu best ASMR RUclipsr
Your last two teams have been a daycare session
The bro decided become great kaiju because his team cant function well 😔
when you get a 50-6 kills, 16ks life, and its not enougth to carry a team, true 1v9 here XD
21:10 love how panth takes a step back like he's the adc
Fiora: Divine sunderer + R + 1 AA = 1minute of gray screen
Varus ap full magic penetration :>
thumbs up for the more plates more dates reference
29:29 and 31:04 RAID BOSS COMING THROUGH!!! *Gets kills*
Could have been one of hell of a win if your team were not trolls
Bro gonna do 1 v 1 with Baron
Ultimate 1v9
And bros so wholesome he even woahd when noticed ez was trolling (and it wasnt when seen his kda)
bro became the baron
Omg, I'm so disappointed that you didn't win the game. Those guys in your team are just stupid, especially Ez.
Hahahhaah😂😂 and you still get the "L" 😂😂😂
Bro definitely DO NOT clickbait us💀🙏🏻
Jsem tě začal sledovat a ani jsem si neuvědomil že si čech xd, teďka jsem na 30:56 spozoroval to "š". Dobrej gameplay
now try the damage version with titanic hydra, demonic embrace and sunfire
I really really wish you built a demonic embrace instead of Gargoyles so that your Q and W go from no damage cc abilities to like 500 damage a piece because you will have like 200 ap or some shit
Its more like 290ap with demonic embrace
No. Demonic is not whole without liandry's and shadowflame. Either buy all 3 of them or none.
@@GhoulBandit what?! what are you talking about? Liandries doesn't even give hp, which Demonic scales off of!
@@Mori-man demonic doesn't even give that much hp. Now it's more an ap item them a bruiser mage item. And on liandry's. I'm talking about the burn. Along with the shadow flame. Those are giving bonus to each other. Since the liandry's is half amount of the demonic burn it gives a small bonus. Plus the shadowflame magic pen burn gives a buff to the burns. So if not these 3 together, demonic barely usefull.
@@GhoulBandit Shit your serous! I can't believe it. 450 is actually generally considered a lot of HP for an item, mate. The burn isn't a negative, but it's also not needed to build it. Getting that much AP on an item that gives more HP than most tank items is enough, holy shit!
"I do like your style" short for "nice try" "that tickles"
Imagine sett just walking up like “OHHHH IM GUNNA FUCK SHIT UP!”
No one: how many HP do you want?
Godsu: yes
That was so satisfying to watch until the end 😔
Let's make baron, ohh wait, it is not baron, it is actualy the cho gath 😂
I started crying laughing when you missed that cannon bro lol
Bro isnt a tank at this point, he is the whole fkin military
POV:ur watching an Pacific rim and this vids pop off out of nowhere
Now imagine enemy team had a Fiora, that sounds like no fun.
I wantet to see the dmg done lol… also dmg tanked XD
Wow, thats a big chogat 😂
what a true beast 😂😂😂 first time I seen such a performance man you are impressive 😮👏😮
That zed tho 😂
How u healing?
“If you ever feel like you can’t, UConn” -Gigi Bryant
If you can’t carry a game, try to carry it instead
With changes Cho Gath is stonger then ever ! I played him semi-tank ap and with stacks he is like heavy tank but deal good damage and carry team .
out of boredom, i mathed out some numbers. i acknowledge that for demonic and sunfire there would be some minor discrepancies in the numbers, but titanic isn’t. with de or titanic, you would have had ~286 ap/ad and sunfire would have dealt around 265 damage without it ramping itself up, ~424 when it hits max damage increase, per second.
love you humor bro😂😂
WTF did i just watch, jeah TANKS SEEM BALANCED this season🤣🤙
Lore accurate Cho Gath
“ Someone deff top at all time “
Zed is a troll……WHO I HAAATE! 😂🤣
This Ez, this Zed.... OMFG 🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️
At this point i believe this zed is a paid actor
When Godzu becomes god himself xP. I want to see Sion with those items, must be op. Ggs
Never thought I would hear an MPMD reference in a league video
Zed is just waiting for any low health to ks lmao
Titanic Hydra should have been bought here. Imagine the ad scaling you would recieve with 16 K hp. You could probably have oneshot the squishies together with the Heartsteel bonus damage effect.
Imagine he would have bought titanic hydra at 16k hp
WOW!
I didn't expect you to lose this game at the end, lol! That's how my teams usually look like when I go play lol haha.
you missed an o. it's looose
Hahaha everyone's big till you find ap Varus
Btw u hitting the q is really rare
Im starting to think that HP doesnt mean shit. Because even when he had 16K Hp. He would still take 400 damage autos from MF. And take 500+ damage per auto from sylas. He would stil die just as fast as if he was a 5K HP chogath. TANK ARE STILL USELESS AS LONG AS ANTI-TANK ITEMS STAY AS STRONGS AS THEY ARE NOW.
Try Shen, just really recommended (you can beat Sion late game with him too)
Ur smoking something, sion way outscales shen
@@aidanthomas250 idk man, Shen's Q gives da bonk remember? :D
@@aidanthomas250 Look how Petu with Shen melted Baus Sion
@@mmr1137 :)))
@Adam Thomas also shen passive
every champ with % health beat sion
How did you not buy force of nature tho 😝 still sick gameplay my GGuy 🔥
5:31 O MIZEROS
Last season, i felt like we already had a tank meta. but with these changes and especially with introducing this heartsteel item, the gamedevs broke the game completely imho
GODZU HAS A COMMENTARY?!?!
GG NO TEAAAAM, bro it's so sad, but you ever be OP
That Sylas is the typical EU Mid. Gets fed off of dumb early stuff, gets an ego, starts inting for kills and lose his lead, gets tilted and ints for the loss.
Love your glorious Czech accent
Bro played starcraft 2 in lol