Clay, thanks for another in-depth, and informative video. Watching your videos has educated me enough successfully to build an all Unifi network with 1-UDM SE, 1-UNVR, 1-USW-Aggregation, 2-Pro48 POE, 1-Pro24 POE, 11-APs, 2-4K cameras, 21-2K cameras, and much more on my 5-acre property. Unifi Access will be coming soon.
Hi mate, do you know if the UDM SE or UNVR are remotely accessible for viewing etc? I am looking at getting the UDM pro or similar to use as an all-in-one solution for networking and security. I will be overseas and just curious if this equipment could be accessed whilst I’m away
You likely should have included the Cloud Gateway Ultra as well, not sure if the Cloud Gateway Max was already already released when this video was released, but that is also a good option for a small deployment and you are starting out. The Cloud Gateway Ultra and Max would suit people who may have considered the CloudKey 2 Plus. I've noticed that Protect has a cloud upload option to upload footage to Onedrive or similar cloud storage. This may work as a limited backup for the single drive devices.
Note that there really isn’t a compatible surveillance grade 2.5” larger than 1TB. You can certainly use any but I would be very surprised if they last longer than 2 years. Heat is potentially a factor as well. While those 1TB drives are cheap ($35) they still may only last 2-4 years or less. I did put a good quality SSD in a mobile one that has worked for a year now with no issues.
Great points. I typically feel like CKG2+ footage shouldnt be mission critical. If a drive fails a few days downtime should be tolerable. but a very solid post and thanks for taking the time!
Nice video, really good info! Quite the crime we cant run Unifi Video/ now protect on our own hardware anymore.. In my opinion it was a Huge Middle finger to users. My experience with the CK Plus is like you say, its better not to run multiple 4k on it, its a hot and slow device, plus you cant exchange the battery when dead which makes it a waste product.. In my personal view its better to separate cloud controllers from NVR´s and maybe run the controller from AWS. For home use the CK plus is awesome but i think Dream Machine Special Edition is a bang for the Buck with the Poe ports for home /semi pro use:)
Thank you for this informative project .. I learned a lot being that I am also trying to decide which cameras and storage since I am currently using a cloud gen 2 plus ….
Thank you! I already have Network via UCG Ultra and looking to add Protect. It's for my house. Max 3 cameras (G5 turret). I'm torn between CloudKey Gen 2 which now is only the SSD variant ($249) or UNVM which is at $299 but they're also giving a free G4 Bullet. Price-wise, they're about the same if you factor in one less camera to buy or extra HDD for UNVM. Between these 2, I'm leaning towards CloudKey just because it's a smaller footprint - I don't have a network rack and don't want to start one quite yet. Only concern as you pointed out is that it's an older hardware. But despite that, it sounds like I should be fine for the small number of cameras plus I'm only using it for Protect. I'm curious which one you would recommend for my use case. Thank you!
@@shreyasdube ckg2+.. I would wait for the spinning rust version to be available. Check out my video on Discord! To get notified when they are available, they come available every a few days if you're looking for them.. we buy them for our clients and typically can find them within a few days...
UniFi Protect on the UDR/Drea Wall is a "Forget It" thing. SD cards for storage, money is on it being the same tool who use a USB thumb drive in the UNVR's (used to be UNVR Pro's in those days before being renamed). You need big HDD's if you want storage. UCK G2 Plus, ditch the crappy laptop HDD and use a big SSD to keep heat down and have decent camera performance and up to half-dozen cameras. Be careful with the camera count calculators, drop 20-25% off the claims for more realistic real-world use. Maxxing out the units makes them really suck.
When adding additional drives in the nvr do they need to be identical? If i have 2 do choose if they are mirroring data or expanding storage capacity. Also, do you notice a difference in any of them for notifying the smartphone app of a detention on a camera? Thanks!
From a pure performance standpoints (dashboard snapiness and scrubbing performance of footage) would stacking two UNVRs be better or would splitting your cameras manually and running two "sites" be better?
can the UNVR also do the doorbell? I want to move over to Unifi but in 2 stages. First the cameras (using my existing network) then the networking eqp.
Some feedback... it is always good to define more obscure terms. Stacking of NVR's (in UniFi terminology) is the use of two of the same model NVR devices to provide storage for one Protect deployment. Also, the jerking around of the mouse pointer is very distracting.
Hi clay great videos as always! I was just wondering if you are looking for installer in the state of Florida . I’m a structural cabling technician and a Ubiquiti enthusiast . Thanks for the great content
Hi Clay. Love the content. I’m a little confused. I want to run a single G4 PTZ and that ONLY. I don’t have a Mac or PC - just iPads/iPhone , and have no real intention of expanding the protect system. Would the dreamwall be the best solution for me? Or will I need additional equipment beyond the PTZ and the dreamwall? I also know the dreamwall is a router, but plan to use my existing Amplifi alien as my home network. Thanks in advance!!
Clay, thanks for another in-depth, and informative video. Watching your videos has educated me enough successfully to build an all Unifi network with 1-UDM SE, 1-UNVR, 1-USW-Aggregation, 2-Pro48 POE, 1-Pro24 POE, 11-APs, 2-4K cameras, 21-2K cameras, and much more on my 5-acre property. Unifi Access will be coming soon.
Glad to help! Sounds like an awesome setup!
Hi mate, do you know if the UDM SE or UNVR are remotely accessible for viewing etc? I am looking at getting the UDM pro or similar to use as an all-in-one solution for networking and security. I will be overseas and just curious if this equipment could be accessed whilst I’m away
You likely should have included the Cloud Gateway Ultra as well, not sure if the Cloud Gateway Max was already already released when this video was released, but that is also a good option for a small deployment and you are starting out. The Cloud Gateway Ultra and Max would suit people who may have considered the CloudKey 2 Plus.
I've noticed that Protect has a cloud upload option to upload footage to Onedrive or similar cloud storage. This may work as a limited backup for the single drive devices.
Note that there really isn’t a compatible surveillance grade 2.5” larger than 1TB. You can certainly use any but I would be very surprised if they last longer than 2 years. Heat is potentially a factor as well. While those 1TB drives are cheap ($35) they still may only last 2-4 years or less. I did put a good quality SSD in a mobile one that has worked for a year now with no issues.
Great points. I typically feel like CKG2+ footage shouldnt be mission critical. If a drive fails a few days downtime should be tolerable. but a very solid post and thanks for taking the time!
Nice video, really good info! Quite the crime we cant run Unifi Video/ now protect on our own hardware anymore.. In my opinion it was a Huge Middle finger to users. My experience with the CK Plus is like you say, its better not to run multiple 4k on it, its a hot and slow device, plus you cant exchange the battery when dead which makes it a waste product.. In my personal view its better to separate cloud controllers from NVR´s and maybe run the controller from AWS. For home use the CK plus is awesome but i think Dream Machine Special Edition is a bang for the Buck with the Poe ports for home /semi pro use:)
All good points. Yeah if u dont have offboard PoE the SE is a great deal.
Excellent video, thank you for this! 🙌🏼
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you for this informative project .. I learned a lot being that I am also trying to decide which cameras and storage since I am currently using a cloud gen 2 plus ….
Thanks for the kind feedback!
Thank you! I already have Network via UCG Ultra and looking to add Protect. It's for my house. Max 3 cameras (G5 turret).
I'm torn between CloudKey Gen 2 which now is only the SSD variant ($249) or UNVM which is at $299 but they're also giving a free G4 Bullet. Price-wise, they're about the same if you factor in one less camera to buy or extra HDD for UNVM. Between these 2, I'm leaning towards CloudKey just because it's a smaller footprint - I don't have a network rack and don't want to start one quite yet. Only concern as you pointed out is that it's an older hardware. But despite that, it sounds like I should be fine for the small number of cameras plus I'm only using it for Protect.
I'm curious which one you would recommend for my use case. Thank you!
@@shreyasdube ckg2+.. I would wait for the spinning rust version to be available. Check out my video on Discord! To get notified when they are available, they come available every a few days if you're looking for them.. we buy them for our clients and typically can find them within a few days...
UniFi Protect on the UDR/Drea Wall is a "Forget It" thing. SD cards for storage, money is on it being the same tool who use a USB thumb drive in the UNVR's (used to be UNVR Pro's in those days before being renamed). You need big HDD's if you want storage.
UCK G2 Plus, ditch the crappy laptop HDD and use a big SSD to keep heat down and have decent camera performance and up to half-dozen cameras.
Be careful with the camera count calculators, drop 20-25% off the claims for more realistic real-world use. Maxxing out the units makes them really suck.
Great feedback, thanks for posting!
They need to come up with a cost effective kit, 2 or 4 cameras and a unvr with Poe and compete with other brands targeting everyday people.
Great idea! They have the UNVR deal but a "kit" would be awesome
The small, medium and large bundles. Out of stock the moment it gets announced.
When adding additional drives in the nvr do they need to be identical?
If i have 2 do choose if they are mirroring data or expanding storage capacity.
Also, do you notice a difference in any of them for notifying the smartphone app of a detention on a camera?
Thanks!
they do need to be identical OR it will use the amount of space of the SMALLER drive.
Stacking should also work between UNVR and UNVR Pro. Same devices is a bit limiting imo
Yeah, I'm not sure what the technical issue is but they cannot.. I would love it because i have them both, but alas, i cannot...
From a pure performance standpoints (dashboard snapiness and scrubbing performance of footage) would stacking two UNVRs be better or would splitting your cameras manually and running two "sites" be better?
@@Porsche7905 I would just do it in software now. There has also been leaked images of a 16 drive NVR, if u can wait for that I would.
Been looking to get a unifi cctv system, am completely lost, seems like you need to stack products, seems uneconomical
can the UNVR also do the doorbell? I want to move over to Unifi but in 2 stages. First the cameras (using my existing network) then the networking eqp.
@@SK0R092 yes
Some feedback... it is always good to define more obscure terms. Stacking of NVR's (in UniFi terminology) is the use of two of the same model NVR devices to provide storage for one Protect deployment. Also, the jerking around of the mouse pointer is very distracting.
@@bryandulock5286 good point, thanks for the constructive feedback
Hi clay great videos as always! I was just wondering if you are looking for installer in the state of Florida . I’m a structural cabling technician and a Ubiquiti enthusiast . Thanks for the great content
Always looking, where in Florida are you?
Orlando
Hi Clay. Love the content. I’m a little confused. I want to run a single G4 PTZ and that ONLY. I don’t have a Mac or PC - just iPads/iPhone , and have no real intention of expanding the protect system. Would the dreamwall be the best solution for me? Or will I need additional equipment beyond the PTZ and the dreamwall? I also know the dreamwall is a router, but plan to use my existing Amplifi alien as my home network. Thanks in advance!!
I would probably go with a dream machine for home.. And check out the new G5PTZ they released today, it is a killer little camera!
Thank you!
Good stuff!
If you have two Dream Machine Pro Max devices (one in shadow mode) can the two Pro Max's be stacked to double the NVR recording capacity?
They cannot.
Any way to offload footage to an AWS S3 bucket or equivalent?
You can to OneDrive and GoogleDrive..
@@DPCTechnology I’m new to it. How’s that work?
@@mtnsolutions you just add it with ur credentials. I demo it on my protect 4.0 review
@@DPCTechnology thanks. I’d like to check that out. Have you got the link handy for me or anyone else reading this thread?