I see alot of hurt in Lizzie , that's why I left home at 15 the physical abuse is what made me mean ,I'm thankful it stopped with me ,you can forgive but you never ever forget I'm almost 70 and still have nightmares ,
The lack of eye contact is usually a red flag 🚩 for something wrong......so happy you are sharing this information - does the deacon abuser know of Lizzie’s work? I sure hope so!!
I have worked with the Amish and seen first hand this stuff happen. It ended up bad. Now almost 7 years later, I decided to write an Amish fiction story. that covers this subject. thanks for sharing this.
CJ and Lizzie... thank you so much for doing these videos!! This topic needs SO much to be addressed and talked about everywhere. I am 63 years old, non-Amish and a survivor of childhood sexual abuse. It can destroy a person’s whole life. Girls and boys alike. God bless you both! #voicesofhope #healingispowerful #nomorehiddensecrects #prayer
So very true! I’m 44 year old non Amish woman, wife, and mother but the horrific experiences I endured have followed me and influenced me my entire life. Thankfully my husband is the kindest, most gentle man I have ever known and his love and care have made all the difference in the world to me. Together we created a safe home for myself and our large family. Sexual abuse happens everywhere, including religious communities. ❤
CJ, your interviews with Lizzie Herschberger are so powerful and important. Lizzie is a hero, but without your videos, I wouldn’t have known about her. Now I have another book to order and a donation to make. Thank you.
6 weeks shunned, what a joke! That guy needed time in prison and a confrontation with an angry dad, if i was your dad i would have done something real serious to him. Things in that community need to change, kids need to know they can tell someone if something is happening to them.
Agreed. Sexual abusers should suffer a lifelong punishment, a permanent punishment. It is what they have perpetrated upon an innocent CHILD, therefore that is what they have earned.
For adults, The Wounded Heart by Dr.Dan B. Allender, was helpful to me. But hard to swallow at first, because he talks about forgiving yourself for building walls to keep out relationships. Etc that occurs as a reaction to protect yourself. It's incredible to me that the 'church' expects us to walk normal when we are running around with these bulletholes in us. Got to get that bullet out, the infection around it out and give it time to heal.
Wonderful words. I have had many bullet holes. Finally mending. These happened after marriage. My growing up was loving and had wonderful parents. I no longer beat myself up for other people's problems.
Thank you so much for posting/sharing all of this information. I used to think maybe I'd want to join an amish community... I thought maybe they lived a more Biblical/right life... I have learned that all cultures have their dark sides and humans are humans everywhere. I was shocked to learn how little they study the Bible...
Powerful, powerful Testimony. Thank you CJ for the time you've taken to Interview this amazing woman. If one person reaches out to stop the abuse they're suffering after watching this then it's a huge success. The best to you and your Family. Prayers 🙏
Lizzie.. you have touched my heart. Thank you for being so generous to share your story and reach out to help, and heal some, and hopefully prevent some of this evil abuse. I'm sure everything you do is Christ-centered and many have heard the true healing, eternal gospel! I am going to follow your materials and donate whatever I can! 🤗 thanks CJ for having Lizzie on!
Again a powerful video. I’m not Amish. But I am very interested in the life’s of Amish people. I find it very different from what I had believed prior. I just didn’t know. It’s not much different than my life growing up. I was taught to work hard, was given a lot of responsibility as a young person and learned respect of my parents. I’m so glad that Lisy was strong enough to do this. I too was assaulted as a child, and have never told another person about it except one. He was a member of a church and didn’t know how to respond. He made me feel that I was at fault. But I understand that he just wasn’t trained on dealing with this type of issue so I just moved on. Thank you for your voice in this important matter.
I’ve reported parents because it looked like they had cigarette burns on their arms but it turned out it was impetigo so they said. I still have my doubts.
Pretty large difference between impetigo and a cigarette burn… I am a nurse and I can not see that diagnosis being confused by a medical professional. There are very clear differences in the appearance of these wounds.
I'm so glad you are talking about this! It's needed! Have you read "Plain Anna" yet? She used to go to our church years ago and we never knew, but thinking back, they never sent their kids to the school we went.
Why would the adults in the community punish the victim after horrible sexual abuse? Can't they see that an adult is much physically stronger than a child? And, a child can't give consent. That is absolutely heartbreaking.
Thank you, Lizzie! Forgiveness through Christ sets you and your heart free! Through forgiveness, you're no longer being controlled by the abuser. You're correct-- God will take care of the abuser. God is present with you on this journey. 'Voices of Hope' is such a beautiful gift. Receiving professional counseling is a key part to the individual's healing! Blessings! ✝️
I can't imagine not telling my kids I love them. Sometimes I say it without even realizing I'm going to say it. I just open my mouth to say something and "I love you" comes out instead of whatever I was going to say. Lol
Have you ever read Tears of the Silenced by Misty Griffin? She would be another great person to interview about this. She too walked away from the Amish community after abuse.
I would love to have a safe haven home for the Amish who are trying to leave but living in NC that would be hard to do . I would love to go to one of those seminars. Ordering that book.
I would last about one hour as an Amish woman: I am not subservient to men, and I will not take abuse. How in the heck these ladies put up with all of this misogynistic behavior is beyond me.
They mature before they marry honey. Sexual abuse happens everywhere in this world and is far more common in the nonAmish world. Heck what’s happening now in the US with the whole trans movement is far, far, far worse as it is actually the abuse, sexual objectification, and grooming of children. Our popular media is simply another example, pop culture, social media, porn, and the massive sex industry are far more sexist and abusive than a man heading a household. The fact is that marriage requires a leader and men are naturally driven to lead. Most women eventually discover that submission comes naturally when they are in a safe and loving relationship.
Yes, you probably right. Just wish there were more groups out there to help them get out of the horrible abuse. When I learn of Amish families turning on their female relatives for reporting sexual misconduct it irritates me to no end.
The dedication, you give to your religion, is what u do when u believe. It's what your parents taught u, and what they were taught!!! I admire the fact that yourselves have your experiences, outside your religious beliefs, which can be very daunting when your views change, as many faiths do! I'm a brought up Catholic, non practising for over 40 years. I love my god, everyone's God. Every believer in our God, knows his suffering. When did he make rule's?? To my knowledge of the Bible? God only spread love and faith, faith of love. My beliefs are today!! Persons have abused our lord's name in excuses for everything... Just my opionins.. love your channel, courageous lady. But a very, wronged child, but as I comment another child in some religion is suffering!!!!!my thoughts are, take out the perpetrators, they hide behind our God! They are criminals! Abusing, the innocents, they must be brought to justice! The law! And be jailed for what our lord WOULD never accept. In our day CHILD ABUSE..
I was raised strict Catholic upbringing and had to deal with Catholic Nuns. I understand that children need to be shown loved. I did not have that either in my life.
I do not understand why a member is not excommunicated when he commits a sin(our church calls it a sin unto death or a sin of separation) so horrible. Our Anabaptist church would for sins of fornication, adultery, murder and blasphemy. Those members are allowed to come to church but are not members of the church anymore.
Are there any ways of obtaining these books other than Amazon? Since they publicly announced that they will pay for a woman's transportation to obtain an abortion and now sell home suicide kits, I've deleted their app and my account.🙏
WOW!! I had no idea what the AMISH Teach about GOD. NOW, I SEE Why so many people LEAVE the AMISH and Join the MENNONITE Church and other Christian Denominations.
I think a lot of the same stuff goes on in other institutions. Look at the Catholic church for instance. Even the military. Human nature people don't want to deal with these kind of issues. Sometimes they are dealt with sometimes not.
Amish life is bondage. People have the wrong impression about Amish life - what they see in tourist brochures; cute, attractive, photogenic, and all that. But it's hell, for the women especially. U.S. Courts should not deal leniently with Amish child abuse, sexual abuse, physical abuse, and all the sordid crimes hidden under the veneer of "bonnets, beards, horse-drawn buggies, etc". A lot of these vile male perpetrators have gotten away lightly, when they should have been hanged or exiled or kept locked up in prison for 10 years at least. The Amish are no better than the Jehovah Witnesses and Mormons, and probably worse. The least the evangelical church in America can do is to reach out to the Amish with the gospel of the glorious liberty we have in Christ Jesus.
GOD is able to take horrible situations that are bad and use them for good. He can take all that hurt and help others he heals and he changes the heart.
I grew up in a church similar to the Amish. Pride is considered a sin in the Bible. There's humble pride and arrogant pride. Arrogant pride is a sin. Mm arr
So, basiclly, the predator "served" 6 weeks punisment and that is it?? WTF?? I do not care if you are this of that, anyone who abused a young girl has to be punished. My God!.
I'm saying it again here: you are required by law to report abuse of a child, to the law. Sexual predators will get more victims. They often have more than one at a time. There is no program to "heal" them. You will not pray them into better behavior By "forgiving" the abuser, you leave others open to abuse. And it is not the responsibility of the victim. I'm all for letting go of anger. Work past that. Leave the forgiveness of an abuser's soul to Jesus. You nor I are responsible for anyone's salvation.
Well, I have serious doubts about that! I was raised in a pentecostal church of God! My dad physically abused all 7 of us (his children) for our ENTIRE CHILDHOOD! He was a "teacher" of the book of revelations in MANY CHURCHES! Because of his abuse and acceptance by the "christian" people in those churches we, his children, were labeled "bad kids".Even through all the abuse and plain meaness of "God's people" I have still believed in God! I can tell you that I have suffered through MANY HORRIBLE THINGS THAT GOD COULD HAVE PREVENTED if he had so chosen! So do not tell me that God don't let bad things happen to people who believe in him! That IS NOT TRUE!!!!
Please have your guests not make noise in the background. She seems to be flipping something and it is very distracting. But her testimony is very powerful!!!
I couldn’t imagine not telling the kids I love them they’re like my life
I see alot of hurt in Lizzie , that's why I left home at 15 the physical abuse is what made me mean ,I'm thankful it stopped with me ,you can forgive but you never ever forget I'm almost 70 and still have nightmares ,
I am so sorry about the nightmares.. Do you have anyone to love up on you? To talk about these dreams to anyone?
I’m 44 and yes the nightmares never end…😓❤️
The lack of eye contact is usually a red flag 🚩 for something wrong......so happy you are sharing this information - does the deacon abuser know of Lizzie’s work? I sure hope so!!
I have worked with the Amish and seen first hand this stuff happen. It ended up bad.
Now almost 7 years later, I decided to write an Amish fiction story. that covers this subject.
thanks for sharing this.
CJ and Lizzie... thank you so much for doing these videos!! This topic needs SO much to be addressed and talked about everywhere.
I am 63 years old, non-Amish and a survivor of childhood sexual abuse. It can destroy a person’s whole life. Girls and boys alike. God bless you both!
#voicesofhope #healingispowerful
#nomorehiddensecrects
#prayer
So very true! I’m 44 year old non Amish woman, wife, and mother but the horrific experiences I endured have followed me and influenced me my entire life. Thankfully my husband is the kindest, most gentle man I have ever known and his love and care have made all the difference in the world to me. Together we created a safe home for myself and our large family. Sexual abuse happens everywhere, including religious communities. ❤
CJ, your interviews with Lizzie Herschberger are so powerful and important. Lizzie is a hero, but without your videos, I wouldn’t have known about her. Now I have another book to order and a donation to make. Thank you.
6 weeks shunned, what a joke! That guy needed time in prison and a confrontation with an angry dad, if i was your dad i would have done something real serious to him. Things in that community need to change, kids need to know they can tell someone if something is happening to them.
Where can law people go to find the nerve to do their job ?
Agreed. Sexual abusers should suffer a lifelong punishment, a permanent punishment. It is what they have perpetrated upon an innocent CHILD, therefore that is what they have earned.
Lizzie, thank you for sharing your story! It's all about the children. 🙏🏻
Lizzie is so well spoken, and such a powerful woman. Praise God.
There is tons of healing in forgiving your abuser.
There’s tons of healing that needs to occur before you can forgive someone who hurts you with such a serious offense as rape
Lizzie, thank you so much for sharing your story
God Bless Lizzy and others..may they find God's Love and may they receive His peace..God Bless..Love Chris
For adults, The Wounded Heart by Dr.Dan B. Allender, was helpful to me. But hard to swallow at first, because he talks about forgiving yourself for building walls to keep out relationships. Etc that occurs as a reaction to protect yourself. It's incredible to me that the 'church' expects us to walk normal when we are running around with these bulletholes in us. Got to get that bullet out, the infection around it out and give it time to heal.
Wonderful words. I have had many bullet holes. Finally mending. These happened after marriage. My growing up was loving and had wonderful parents. I no longer beat myself up for other people's problems.
Thank you so much for posting/sharing all of this information.
I used to think maybe I'd want to join an amish community... I thought maybe they lived a more Biblical/right life... I have learned that all cultures have their dark sides and humans are humans everywhere. I was shocked to learn how little they study the Bible...
Humans are Humans everywhere! How true! We are animals you know!
So sad…😢
Sending love and light to Lizzie…🙏🏼
God Bless you CJ for doing this and thank you very much Lizzie. You are a strong warrior. Prayers and thanks for helping so many of us.
Powerful, powerful Testimony. Thank you CJ for the time you've taken to Interview this amazing woman. If one person reaches out to stop the abuse they're suffering after watching this then it's a huge success. The best to you and your Family. Prayers 🙏
Sexual abuse can make a child loose their self-esteem and confidence. I know I was first abused at age 3.
Me too
CJ you are very empathetic and a great interviewer! Thanks again.
Lizzie.. you have touched my heart. Thank you for being so generous to share your story and reach out to help, and heal some, and hopefully prevent some of this evil abuse. I'm sure everything you do is Christ-centered and many have heard the true healing, eternal gospel! I am going to follow your materials and donate whatever I can! 🤗 thanks CJ for having Lizzie on!
Oh thank you for sharing. One of your best videos.
Lizzie, I want you to thank you for being sooo honest!! I just want to hug you! Remember, your a very strong Woman!!🙏🙏❤❤🙏🙏
Again a powerful video. I’m not Amish. But I am very interested in the life’s of Amish people. I find it very different from what I had believed prior. I just didn’t know. It’s not much different than my life growing up. I was taught to work hard, was given a lot of responsibility as a young person and learned respect of my parents. I’m so glad that Lisy was strong enough to do this. I too was assaulted as a child, and have never told another person about it except one. He was a member of a church and didn’t know how to respond. He made me feel that I was at fault. But I understand that he just wasn’t trained on dealing with this type of issue so I just moved on. Thank you for your voice in this important matter.
Thanks cj and cousin Liz keep up the good work you guys
I’ve reported parents because it looked like they had cigarette burns on their arms but it turned out it was impetigo so they said. I still have my doubts.
Pretty large difference between impetigo and a cigarette burn… I am a nurse and I can not see that diagnosis being confused by a medical professional. There are very clear differences in the appearance of these wounds.
Read tears of silence!! That story book is also amazing!!
I just ordered both the books you mentioned in your video. Thank you for being a woman of courage.
That’s crazy because outside the Amish they would go to prison for almost life….
I'm so glad you are talking about this! It's needed! Have you read "Plain Anna" yet? She used to go to our church years ago and we never knew, but thinking back, they never sent their kids to the school we went.
Why would the adults in the community punish the victim after horrible sexual abuse? Can't they see that an adult is much physically stronger than a child? And, a child can't give consent. That is absolutely heartbreaking.
Usually the abuser is another child…
Thank you, Lizzie! Forgiveness through Christ sets you and your heart free! Through forgiveness, you're no longer being controlled by the abuser. You're correct-- God will take care of the abuser. God is present with you on this journey. 'Voices of Hope' is such a beautiful gift. Receiving professional counseling is a key part to the individual's healing! Blessings! ✝️
I can't imagine not telling my kids I love them. Sometimes I say it without even realizing I'm going to say it. I just open my mouth to say something and "I love you" comes out instead of whatever I was going to say. Lol
Thank you for sharing your story x
Have you ever read Tears of the Silenced by Misty Griffin? She would be another great person to interview about this. She too walked away from the Amish community after abuse.
I would love to have a safe haven home for the Amish who are trying to leave but living in NC that would be hard to do . I would love to go to one of those seminars. Ordering that book.
There are some Amish in NC. I saw it on a map. Look it up. It's near the western part.
The Forgive and forget attitude.
I would last about one hour as an Amish woman: I am not subservient to men, and I will not take abuse. How in the heck these ladies put up with all of this misogynistic behavior is beyond me.
They mature before they marry honey. Sexual abuse happens everywhere in this world and is far more common in the nonAmish world. Heck what’s happening now in the US with the whole trans movement is far, far, far worse as it is actually the abuse, sexual objectification, and grooming of children. Our popular media is simply another example, pop culture, social media, porn, and the massive sex industry are far more sexist and abusive than a man heading a household. The fact is that marriage requires a leader and men are naturally driven to lead. Most women eventually discover that submission comes naturally when they are in a safe and loving relationship.
Their sprit is broken early!
Yes, you probably right. Just wish there were more groups out there to help them get out of the horrible abuse. When I learn of Amish families turning on their female relatives for reporting sexual misconduct it irritates me to no end.
The dedication, you give to your religion, is what u do when u believe. It's what your parents taught u, and what they were taught!!! I admire the fact that yourselves have your experiences, outside your religious beliefs, which can be very daunting when your views change, as many faiths do! I'm a brought up Catholic, non practising for over 40 years. I love my god, everyone's God. Every believer in our God, knows his suffering. When did he make rule's?? To my knowledge of the Bible? God only spread love and faith, faith of love. My beliefs are today!! Persons have abused our lord's name in excuses for everything... Just my opionins.. love your channel, courageous lady. But a very, wronged child, but as I comment another child in some religion is suffering!!!!!my thoughts are, take out the perpetrators, they hide behind our God! They are criminals! Abusing, the innocents, they must be brought to justice! The law! And be jailed for what our lord WOULD never accept. In our day CHILD ABUSE..
I was raised strict Catholic upbringing and had to deal with Catholic Nuns. I understand that children need to be shown loved. I did not have that either in my life.
I do not understand why a member is not excommunicated when he commits a sin(our church calls it a sin unto death or a sin of separation) so horrible. Our Anabaptist church would for sins of fornication, adultery, murder and blasphemy. Those members are allowed to come to church but are not members of the church anymore.
Are there any ways of obtaining these books other than Amazon? Since they publicly announced that they will pay for a woman's transportation to obtain an abortion and now sell home suicide kits, I've deleted their app and my account.🙏
www.barnesandnoble.com/w/behind-blue-curtains-molly-maeve-eagan/1139028911;jsessionid=09FA84A63315F989A2F149EDB0BB1FDA.prodny_store02-atgap18?ean=9780990715498
@@theamishpotato Thanks....I'll check them out. Hoping they ship to Canada.🙏
The Father and Son always love you and us all.
Sad story!😔
WOW!! I had no idea what the AMISH Teach about GOD. NOW, I SEE Why so many people LEAVE the AMISH and Join the MENNONITE Church and other Christian Denominations.
I wonder if Lizzy is still in the amish church
I think a lot of the same stuff goes on in other institutions. Look at the Catholic church for instance. Even the military. Human nature people don't want to deal with these kind of issues. Sometimes they are dealt with sometimes not.
There are a number of Voices of Hope links.. yours is a bit difficult to find
Amish life is bondage. People have the wrong impression about Amish life - what they see in tourist brochures; cute, attractive, photogenic, and all that. But it's hell, for the women especially. U.S. Courts should not deal leniently with Amish child abuse, sexual abuse, physical abuse, and all the sordid crimes hidden under the veneer of "bonnets, beards, horse-drawn buggies, etc". A lot of these vile male perpetrators have gotten away lightly, when they should have been hanged or exiled or kept locked up in prison for 10 years at least.
The Amish are no better than the Jehovah Witnesses and Mormons, and probably worse.
The least the evangelical church in America can do is to reach out to the Amish with the gospel of the glorious liberty we have in Christ Jesus.
Could you PLEASE send me information about voices of Hope in Indiana?... thank you! Somehow I want to help. I'll be coming from iowa...
voicesofhope.events
Or contact Lizzie Hershberger on Facebook
@@theamishpotato, I will reach out!!
I need to start proof reading!,,
Keep your inner strengths.
GOD is able to take horrible situations that are bad and use them for good. He can take all that hurt and help others he heals and he changes the heart.
Please, PLEASE, reach out to me!!!
I grew up in a church similar to the Amish. Pride is considered a sin in the Bible. There's humble pride and arrogant pride. Arrogant pride is a sin. Mm arr
So, basiclly, the predator "served" 6 weeks punisment and that is it?? WTF?? I do not care if you are this of that, anyone who abused a young girl has to be punished. My God!.
I'm saying it again here: you are required by law to report abuse of a child, to the law.
Sexual predators will get more victims. They often have more than one at a time. There is no program to "heal" them. You will not pray them into better behavior By "forgiving" the abuser, you leave others open to abuse. And it is not the responsibility of the victim.
I'm all for letting go of anger. Work past that. Leave the forgiveness of an abuser's soul to Jesus. You nor I are responsible for anyone's salvation.
Check. Quite a guy to care and cover this issue and have your values.
God does NOT allow bad things to happen to us. He does redeem the bad however.
Well, I have serious doubts about that! I was raised in a pentecostal church of God! My dad physically abused all 7 of us (his children) for our ENTIRE CHILDHOOD! He was a "teacher" of the book of revelations in MANY CHURCHES! Because of his abuse and acceptance by the "christian" people in those churches we, his children, were labeled "bad kids".Even through all the abuse and plain meaness of "God's people" I have still believed in God! I can tell you that I have suffered through MANY HORRIBLE THINGS THAT GOD COULD HAVE PREVENTED if he had so chosen! So do not tell me that God don't let bad things happen to people who believe in him! That IS NOT TRUE!!!!
WAS LIZZY SHUNED AFTER HE CONFESSED TO COMMUNITY
Please have your guests not make noise in the background. She seems to be flipping something and it is very distracting. But her testimony is very powerful!!!
Thank you. But nobody was making noise in the background. It was something with the live stream audio on my part.
I think it is her microphone making that noise as she moves it crackles.
God's watching every move you make, i wonder what he was doing while all this abuse was going on?
C.J. could we chat please? Im at the end of my rope thank you Bobby
Can you email me at theamishpotato1@gmail.com
Wow that's great i wish I was a postman😂
Love
No no no there is no jesus
He lives
God is good all the time