The concept seems like an adaption of a similar strategy that Vishal Mehta shared in Traders Carnival held 1st week of November 2021. Nevertheless, very useful strategies - this as well as vishal's. Thanks to Jegan and Vishal.
Rire now dt.01.04.22 to 30 aprim this stretagy not work very volitile markt in thisarket what should we do any stretagy for v shape or w shape market. Help us through some light.
Positional strategies are better than intraday strategies when you compare them in terms of profit, margin and psychology... Screen time is more in this. I already tried this strategy for 6 months until the margin rule came. At the end of the month, your profit will be around 4000-6500 per month per lot. That too is without guarantee ( if both sides SL hit many times you will end up in loss). Finally, never ever premiums will match at ATM strikes. It's just my analysis
I experimented this sometime back, the problem I faced was when the market reverses now you have two to worry. one modification I did was move both the leg's SL to the first leg's entry price.
Strategies been discussed or thought with half information.. On these strategies people may or may not loose money however their money will not used for full potential. I don't agree on the margin requirement in this video, there won't be any big difference in the margin requirement even though you enter in both the legs or in one leg. Sometimes when people don't have real valuable content then they work on the existing content and change if & but's to come up with new content.. So sad.. Don't talk very vague, show the back tested results and the period of tested data to validate.. Just take this info if its useful or just ignore as I expect more quality content..
True..I always scrolling up these videos to see if anybody has something new to work upon but after watching them, i realize that, i have wasted my time here and i have better knowledge than them.. i dont understand on what basis these people make video...they make video just to increase their views, subs to make money from youtube.
9.20 straddle works only if the 9.20 candle have high volume second to the 9.15 so for the high volume high time to break the candle high low so time decay happen can catch premium . But if break low or high fast of 9.20 andle can give stoploss hunt so try strangle at same premium 3%away from atm.
In this world no one teach you how to make money.............all the person who make videos for youtube rarely can earn any money from trading, just they are earning money from selling courses......if any one really want to earn money, dont follow anyone, develop your own skill for interpretation, there are only 1% traders can earn money from intraday trading, Believe me they dont share their trading style with anyone, if they share their trading style with you although you cant earn, unless your interpretetion is correct, Believe me its a real tough world
what will you do if the iv of put is increasing and the iv of call dont fall then the put will give losses and the call price will not decay . second - if we sell short straddle and the theta increases then price of both the options will increase and we will close it in loss .
I feel this is extremely risky because in the end to close your trade you need to buy 2 CE now and the market can easily go up after going 20 percent down (correct me if I'm wrong)
bhai poora life risky hai... 2 lots mei hoga ( 15 ke hisab se) i thk 2100. If you fix your loss and then keep at it then the law of probablity will be in your favour. haan,,, beech mein tum buying mei thppe banna chahoge toh usme tumhara paisa jayega. otherwise selling is smooth way to do things, na pressure , heart attack, BP or guidiness, I guess if you are doing a 5 lakh ka selling keep a 1 % loss margin in your brain just cut the trade if you see loss at 5000. Kyu Jagen sir, yenna soringe? if you want to be good in Scalping make your money in selling , then profit ke paise se risk utha, =Not i repeat not with your selling ka capital.
Jegan please stop this circus, you either teach completely or don't tech at all, if all of your videos are crash course for your training, you better follow some ethics an d please don't serve half cooked strategies
Hey this is unfair criticism. I don't claim to know Jegans intention in making these videos but this video has the whole strategy. I don't see any obvious things he intentionally skipped. I found it very insightful for myself. So not what sure what circus you refer to. If he wants to market his workshop along with a really useful video, he is well within his rights to do so and everyone has a choice to ignore that part (like I did). He is not forcing anyone. Also I am sure that those who attend these webinars find huge value in them in terms of networking apart from strategies themselves (I never attended any). I suggest you please introspect your biases in the making this comment.
I don’t find any circus in what Jagan did. I only find ur mindless criticism to be the circus. What’s wrong if he explains whole strategy and then advertises about his training? What kind of entitlement u feel to make such criticism. Pls introspect and get urself fixed.
I HAVE A BIG DOUBT... PLEASE CLEAR IT ...SUPPOSE I HAVE TAKEN A MONTHLY IC OR IF (IRON FLY) FOR ANY INDEX AND IF I TAKE ANY OTHER INTRADAY POSITION SAY STRADDLE OR STARNGLE FOR THE SAME INDEX, I FOUND THAT ALL THE GRAPH OR CHART LOOKS ABSURD OR CANNOT DIFFERNTIATE BETWEEN MONTLY OR DAILY INTRADAY.... WHAT CAN BE DONE FOR THAT... IS CORRCT TO TAKE TRADE WHEN ONE TRADE (SETUP) IS ONGOING... PLEASE CLARIFY.
You miss one factor, premium difference in each legs. That matters in premium decay. I backtest this idea before but there is no significant difference at 10 am entry.
There's nothing confusing. Usually straddle sellers also buy deep OTM options to reduce margin requirements. These buy trades usually lead to small losses which is the cost for hedging
Writing comment on 15-Nov-2022 So this strategy is like: @ 9.20, Sell PE or CE as per your view, if SL hits, sell opposite side Option type at market price, this will kill more in case of reversals from SL point.. Specially in market like 2022 when it's gap up/down almost 4 out of 5 days
Am sorry to say but you don’t have any idea what exactly you are doing 1st you sold your workshop for 5k for 9:20 straddle I also attended that and now you came up with something else to make fool of retail people, just think what you are doing, you are selling your workshop without any solid knowledge
@@arul8750 It seems very strange that after attending PRS workshop, you still think of attending Jegans workshop!!! By the way when did you attend PRS workshop and was it two days or one day? IT would would be very nice if you can describe your experience of benefits you got after attending PRS workshop.
It looks worse then 9:20 straddle, Because when we lose we might lose more than 9:20, because premiums are not equal if SL of small premium is hit first, we will enter bigger premium trade then if this bigger premium also hits SL, we will be losing more than straddle doers, and also miss that 10% range bound days. No Edge can be proven by this, you need to do backtesting. And entering the way you suggested by trigger price than it will be foolishness, we will be losing that extra premium you told and also the rangebound days.
Jegan sir hopefully you are earning good amount in trading....request you not to misguide retail people with your TUGLAK strategies.. people are not worried about loosing of 5k training of your fees...after training people are loosing lakhs of rupees by following your strategies.. Do not eat BLOOD FOOD....PLZ
Jagan ji, I've initiated 9:20 strategy in Banknifty and closed at 3:09 with 1% loss. Could you please tell me the stoploss for the PE in the strangle pair where PE from strangle A and CE from strangle B?
Disadvantage is that this strategy will not work if market is sideways and non trending but beautifully works in trending market as per my backtesting result on opstra.Just today before seeing this vdo I tested this assume first and then trade strategy.
SEBI should ban such video under social media policy and should allow such video when backtest & their own real profit is shown in every market condition, do not misguide retailers we have seen past 3 months what happened v w v w this will be huge loss adding 2 CE or PE. Instead do straddle every 40 min from 9:40a to 1pm exit at 3pm with 25% SL will give you decent returns, recent margin rule has killed , MIS margin should be restored soon.
Kiddish strategy….even watchman working in a hedge fund or brokerage knows this…once or twice if pattern is Vshape…then forget that months whole return
Very risky trade it is like selling naked options, no matter at what time you are selling. For someone who is trading at 9:17 am will enter at 9:20 when market is trending using this method than someone who is planning to watch market after 9:20 am
Jegen, genius person like you could have made better video, naked selling is always very dangerous, especially for banknifty, you could have made some hedge, may be you could some make profit by buying instead of selling, using this method
Why somany videos.? No body thinks somany trading strategies. Traders require simple key parameters 3 or 4. Only naked buy options can fetch with less money around Rs 1 lac. With few indicators like Vwap, macd, Supertrend, Darvas box. No need of somany vides. inforation.
The concept seems like an adaption of a similar strategy that Vishal Mehta shared in Traders Carnival held 1st week of November 2021. Nevertheless, very useful strategies - this as well as vishal's. Thanks to Jegan and Vishal.
Thank you. Will refer to that as well
@ravi Kiran pls share that seminar strategy
@@raj1688 GH GH FG FG gz free FG FG FG FG FG
rhat is paid seminar😂
sir plz use graphical representation while teaching it ll help us a lot.....as days go what ll happen
excellent guide to not to lose much....thank you for your teaching.
where we have lost money in opposite side?
Rire now dt.01.04.22 to 30 aprim this stretagy not work very volitile markt in thisarket what should we do any stretagy for v shape or w shape market. Help us through some light.
May God 🙏 Bless you Enough ❣️
Positional strategies are better than intraday strategies when you compare them in terms of profit, margin and psychology... Screen time is more in this. I already tried this strategy for 6 months until the margin rule came. At the end of the month, your profit will be around 4000-6500 per month per lot. That too is without guarantee ( if both sides SL hit many times you will end up in loss). Finally, never ever premiums will match at ATM strikes. It's just my analysis
You are simply awesome 😎 Venu , you are true , I agree 💯
If positional, what is the adjustment for gapup and gapdown
@@nitinsubudhi5158 your go to Day Trader thelugu you tube channel
@@alaharisathishbabu3963 thank you ji
@@alaharisathishbabu3963 yes man, those are very good adjustments with very good calculations. Once again thank you for your suggestion.
Super video. THANK YOU !
Please explain option opstra, it will be helpfull this is confusing
sir with this strategy what one should do on days like 29th april 2022
I experimented this sometime back, the problem I faced was when the market reverses now you have two to worry. one modification I did was move both the leg's SL to the first leg's entry price.
Can u plz explain. Didn't get
@@MrFinanceWalla same felling here
I do same thing. It's like trailing SL
Strategies been discussed or thought with half information.. On these strategies people may or may not loose money however their money will not used for full potential. I don't agree on the margin requirement in this video, there won't be any big difference in the margin requirement even though you enter in both the legs or in one leg. Sometimes when people don't have real valuable content then they work on the existing content and change if & but's to come up with new content.. So sad.. Don't talk very vague, show the back tested results and the period of tested data to validate.. Just take this info if its useful or just ignore as I expect more quality content..
True..I always scrolling up these videos to see if anybody has something new to work upon but after watching them, i realize that, i have wasted my time here and i have better knowledge than them.. i dont understand on what basis these people make video...they make video just to increase their views, subs to make money from youtube.
Jay shree Krishna
I didn't get how to execute?
Can anybody explain
It seems superb ! Good invention !! Thank you Jagan
what if we sell both CE and PE after the assumed SL hits in one side? hope someone could back test the results
Good idea...Thank you..🙏🙏
Super idea sir
Hats off to you
Excellent video with excellent logic
SUPERB SIR.... PRESENTLY I AM TRADING 9:20 STRADDLE
Ur sl not getting hit?
Don't trade in 9.20
Dont follow the crowd its risky
9.20 straddle works only if the 9.20 candle have high volume second to the 9.15 so for the high volume high time to break the candle high low so time decay happen can catch premium . But if break low or high fast of 9.20 andle can give stoploss hunt so try strangle at same premium 3%away from atm.
What is implied future price? Is it bank nifty future price ?
I think it is
Even in this strategy, reversal will hurt
Hlo sir,,, your video is faithfully and good for knowledge but sir i want to tell you something can you explain in hindi to stock market
Sir, your way of teaching is awesome .
In this world no one teach you how to make money.............all the person who make videos for youtube rarely can earn any money from trading, just they are earning money from selling courses......if any one really want to earn money, dont follow anyone, develop your own skill for interpretation, there are only 1% traders can earn money from intraday trading, Believe me they dont share their trading style with anyone, if they share their trading style with you although you cant earn, unless your interpretetion is correct, Believe me its a real tough world
Do we buy 2 lots instead of 1?
is it working now also ?
It works all days..... I m following this past 8 months successfully.... Brilliant strategy....
what will you do if the iv of put is increasing and the iv of call dont fall then the put will give losses and the call price will not decay .
second - if we sell short straddle and the theta increases then price of both the options will increase and we will close it in loss .
Its good to implement Double Diagonal calendar spread strategy Algo that i ran it weekly options and it gives good profit to me
Can u brief more clearly
May be if you make a follow up video with strategy in market and explain for two days
I feel this is extremely risky because in the end to close your trade you need to buy 2 CE now and the market can easily go up after going 20 percent down (correct me if I'm wrong)
bhai poora life risky hai... 2 lots mei hoga ( 15 ke hisab se) i thk 2100. If you fix your loss and then keep at it then the law of probablity will be in your favour. haan,,, beech mein tum buying mei thppe banna chahoge toh usme tumhara paisa jayega. otherwise selling is smooth way to do things, na pressure , heart attack, BP or guidiness, I guess if you are doing a 5 lakh ka selling keep a 1 % loss margin in your brain just cut the trade if you see loss at 5000. Kyu Jagen sir, yenna soringe?
if you want to be good in Scalping make your money in selling , then profit ke paise se risk utha, =Not i repeat not with your selling ka capital.
awesome 🙏
sir y dnt u do this in live MARKET ATLEAST 1 WEEK BCZ IN BACKTEST EVERYTHING LOOKS GOOD
That's what he does everyday, just analyse his screenshots
Jegan please stop this circus, you either teach completely or don't tech at all, if all of your videos are crash course for your training, you better follow some ethics an d please don't serve half cooked strategies
Hey this is unfair criticism. I don't claim to know Jegans intention in making these videos but this video has the whole strategy. I don't see any obvious things he intentionally skipped. I found it very insightful for myself. So not what sure what circus you refer to.
If he wants to market his workshop along with a really useful video, he is well within his rights to do so and everyone has a choice to ignore that part (like I did). He is not forcing anyone. Also I am sure that those who attend these webinars find huge value in them in terms of networking apart from strategies themselves (I never attended any). I suggest you please introspect your biases in the making this comment.
I don’t find any circus in what Jagan did. I only find ur mindless criticism to be the circus. What’s wrong if he explains whole strategy and then advertises about his training? What kind of entitlement u feel to make such criticism. Pls introspect and get urself fixed.
Didn’t get it. So one side SL HIT, we buy one more LOT of the other side which is giving profit ? Very badly explained
Total confusion. Your other videos are very clear
I HAVE A BIG DOUBT... PLEASE CLEAR IT ...SUPPOSE I HAVE TAKEN A MONTHLY IC OR IF (IRON FLY) FOR ANY INDEX AND IF I TAKE ANY OTHER INTRADAY POSITION SAY STRADDLE OR STARNGLE FOR THE SAME INDEX, I FOUND THAT ALL THE GRAPH OR CHART LOOKS ABSURD OR CANNOT DIFFERNTIATE BETWEEN MONTLY OR DAILY INTRADAY.... WHAT CAN BE DONE FOR THAT... IS CORRCT TO TAKE TRADE WHEN ONE TRADE (SETUP) IS ONGOING... PLEASE CLARIFY.
Backtest looks good, but in real trade need to control emotion because this strategy may give continueous one week loss
Hey can you share the back test data over mail. Would be really helpfull. Thanks in advance
You miss one factor, premium difference in each legs. That matters in premium decay. I backtest this idea before but there is no significant difference at 10 am entry.
Please can you explain? I don't get what you mean.
really good one jagan
So the simple lesson is..
If 90 percent of time sl is hit in morning short straddle.. Then its better to do long straddle
Pretty sure that's not what he meant :-)
you just can't do the opposite, time decay won't be in your favor 😀
In the morning session within an hour or so if sl is hit in sl based short straddle.. It will be in loss..
@@avinashvijaya2800 not if the rest of the session turns out profitable thereafter!
Totally confusing from 13:40 onwards...you suddenly start talking about "buying for hedging" and lost me.
There's nothing confusing. Usually straddle sellers also buy deep OTM options to reduce margin requirements. These buy trades usually lead to small losses which is the cost for hedging
Same strategy in Stock Mock with back tested result before more than 5-6 months back
Hi jegan or anyone : is it naked ce selling without selling pe ?
Same question i have, entry not mentioned...i didn't understand
After wait and trade,if Market comes to call option
Dear Sir ,In this method should we sell one leg only….? If so not a straddle"?
Writing comment on 15-Nov-2022
So this strategy is like:
@ 9.20, Sell PE or CE as per your view, if SL hits, sell opposite side Option type at market price, this will kill more in case of reversals from SL point..
Specially in market like 2022 when it's gap up/down almost 4 out of 5 days
Sir please suggest,if after sl hit ,if we will convert it as calendar ,what will happen sir
Wow jagan sir.great video.
What's so great? The great thing is you commented in 3 mins of video was out and video is of 20 mins. Atleast see full video before commenting.
To sell without buying CE or Put you need high margin ... how is it possible
If this strategy really work then we can take first virtual trade and in which SL hit then oposite side take tread using real money , Concept is same
Use all Stock mock terms In the video and don't give any credits at all..
Why jegan ? Give credits to stock mock
thank you so much... excellent strategy...thank you
what u understand in this can u explain>>???
Am sorry to say but you don’t have any idea what exactly you are doing 1st you sold your workshop for 5k for 9:20 straddle I also attended that and now you came up with something else to make fool of retail people, just think what you are doing, you are selling your workshop without any solid knowledge
workshop also does he teaches the same concepts?then what is the advantage of paying?
@@arul8750 he hardly know what he does and he just focused on charging money from small traders on basis of his nonsense workshop
I agree completely..
@@manojkumar-qs6vu I thought of attending his workshop but just now I changed the mind I already attended pr sunder's course. It was useful then
@@arul8750 It seems very strange that after attending PRS workshop, you still think of attending Jegans workshop!!! By the way when did you attend PRS workshop and was it two days or one day? IT would would be very nice if you can describe your experience of benefits you got after attending PRS workshop.
No matter how great the strategy is, I feel intra day trades don't work that well in the long run.
no bro. weekly option selling strategy may have good chance of winning.
Never say never. It may work or not depending on how and what we trade. It does not depend if the trade was intraday or positional.
If so better to buy option straddle to fix this issue instead of sell
Sir, For entering stop loss we need all the hedging money as in the morning 9:20 straddle
How much is the drawdown % for this strategy?
Huge losses if market goes up down up down same day.
@@vac2695 how huge loss we already have stop loss
It looks worse then 9:20 straddle,
Because when we lose we might lose more than 9:20, because premiums are not equal if SL of small premium is hit first, we will enter bigger premium trade then if this bigger premium also hits SL, we will be losing more than straddle doers, and also miss that 10% range bound days.
No Edge can be proven by this, you need to do backtesting.
And entering the way you suggested by trigger price than it will be foolishness, we will be losing that extra premium you told and also the rangebound days.
Actually u don't understand the strategy. Pls listen again & again thanks
I think you didn't understand the strategy...
Amazing strategy
Sir what to do when the IV are different for CE and PE at 9.20
Yes sir...it is far better than 920...thx...
LOW ME SELL HIGH ME SL KYA LOGIC HAI SAMJH KE PARE
Any strategy will not work if done at same time everyday.
Current market scenario is almost everyday this stoploss will hit
Nice explanation anna
You🙏 are super brother
Both the stoploss ll hit these days 😀
how much money needed for the straddle
Jegan sir hopefully you are earning good amount in trading....request you not to misguide retail people with your TUGLAK strategies..
people are not worried about loosing of 5k training of your fees...after training people are loosing lakhs of rupees by following your strategies..
Do not eat BLOOD FOOD....PLZ
Well said bro
very useful video
Half in RUclips video and remaining half in workshop
Watching this video in 2023 and v,w,u,y and z all the patterns seeing everyday😂😂😂😂😂😅😅😅😅
Jagan ji,
I've initiated 9:20 strategy in Banknifty and closed at 3:09 with 1% loss. Could you please tell me the stoploss for the PE in the strangle pair where PE from strangle A and CE from strangle B?
It could be due to IV spike which happens on few days. In long term, it gets evened out.
1st view sir... Great
1st comment for 1view comment
It's better to close this position by 9.40
If we do paper trade
After PE SL HIT in paper trade
And if if we sell CE 2 lots
Then the same logic will work or not
👌No other word.
Disadvantage is that this strategy will not work if market is sideways and non trending but beautifully works in trending market as per my backtesting result on opstra.Just today before seeing this vdo I tested this assume first and then trade strategy.
80% profits comes from trending market & 80% stop loss hit on either side
Sir , please make it a little bit conplecated
Really good
Agar sl leke reverse hua tab
Still the basic problem of V, M, N and W remains.
Awsome idea Sir!
Can we use this for range bound stocks of wide cpr too jegan sir??
Please dont fool retail traders with your fishy strategy....
Baalaa shivaa reddy...this niggaa jagan is mad....😂😂😂
Yes I was also thinking...what the f is he saying, 😂😂😂
Sir one doubt... Assuming if pe sl hit at 360 then we are entering ce at 240 r 250 r 260 ...then when we will enter pe again??
Why to enter PE again?
In this case, you are not entering pe. Neither at 9.20 nor after entering ce
@@MrFinanceWalla okay thanku
What if it reverses for the next 100 points and stays there
@@MrFinanceWalla is it naked ce sell ? Without pe leg
SEBI should ban such video under social media policy and should allow such video when backtest & their own real profit is shown in every market condition, do not misguide retailers we have seen past 3 months what happened v w v w this will be huge loss adding 2 CE or PE. Instead do straddle every 40 min from 9:40a to 1pm exit at 3pm with 25% SL will give you decent returns, recent margin rule has killed , MIS margin should be restored soon.
Totally confusing.. suddenly you started hedging.. suddenly confused 😕
The best way is create a new straddle for every 1% move....
Kiddish strategy….even watchman working in a hedge fund or brokerage knows this…once or twice if pattern is Vshape…then forget that months whole return
Genius
There is no logic behind wait and trade i think
Then why u need to trade straddle, just trade directional by putting sl😃😃
SL 360 for put is wrong
This is a loss making sir. Both ce and pe hitting sl
Very risky trade it is like selling naked options, no matter at what time you are selling. For someone who is trading at 9:17 am will enter at 9:20 when market is trending using this method than someone who is planning to watch market after 9:20 am
Jegen, genius person like you could have made better video, naked selling is always very dangerous, especially for banknifty, you could have made some hedge, may be you could some make profit by buying instead of selling, using this method
Why somany videos.?
No body thinks somany trading strategies.
Traders require simple key parameters 3 or 4.
Only naked buy options can fetch with less money around Rs 1 lac.
With few indicators like
Vwap, macd, Supertrend, Darvas box.
No need of somany vides. inforation.
1 view and 12 likes aa.
OMG youtube . whats happen to you.
hey annaa manam andaram trading trolls family ey kada he he
@@chaitanyamattaparthi Oo. welcome brother
Content is good but your are not explaining clearly.try to explain in easy way.