The concept seems like an adaption of a similar strategy that Vishal Mehta shared in Traders Carnival held 1st week of November 2021. Nevertheless, very useful strategies - this as well as vishal's. Thanks to Jegan and Vishal.
Positional strategies are better than intraday strategies when you compare them in terms of profit, margin and psychology... Screen time is more in this. I already tried this strategy for 6 months until the margin rule came. At the end of the month, your profit will be around 4000-6500 per month per lot. That too is without guarantee ( if both sides SL hit many times you will end up in loss). Finally, never ever premiums will match at ATM strikes. It's just my analysis
I experimented this sometime back, the problem I faced was when the market reverses now you have two to worry. one modification I did was move both the leg's SL to the first leg's entry price.
9.20 straddle works only if the 9.20 candle have high volume second to the 9.15 so for the high volume high time to break the candle high low so time decay happen can catch premium . But if break low or high fast of 9.20 andle can give stoploss hunt so try strangle at same premium 3%away from atm.
Rire now dt.01.04.22 to 30 aprim this stretagy not work very volitile markt in thisarket what should we do any stretagy for v shape or w shape market. Help us through some light.
what will you do if the iv of put is increasing and the iv of call dont fall then the put will give losses and the call price will not decay . second - if we sell short straddle and the theta increases then price of both the options will increase and we will close it in loss .
You miss one factor, premium difference in each legs. That matters in premium decay. I backtest this idea before but there is no significant difference at 10 am entry.
I feel this is extremely risky because in the end to close your trade you need to buy 2 CE now and the market can easily go up after going 20 percent down (correct me if I'm wrong)
bhai poora life risky hai... 2 lots mei hoga ( 15 ke hisab se) i thk 2100. If you fix your loss and then keep at it then the law of probablity will be in your favour. haan,,, beech mein tum buying mei thppe banna chahoge toh usme tumhara paisa jayega. otherwise selling is smooth way to do things, na pressure , heart attack, BP or guidiness, I guess if you are doing a 5 lakh ka selling keep a 1 % loss margin in your brain just cut the trade if you see loss at 5000. Kyu Jagen sir, yenna soringe? if you want to be good in Scalping make your money in selling , then profit ke paise se risk utha, =Not i repeat not with your selling ka capital.
Writing comment on 15-Nov-2022 So this strategy is like: @ 9.20, Sell PE or CE as per your view, if SL hits, sell opposite side Option type at market price, this will kill more in case of reversals from SL point.. Specially in market like 2022 when it's gap up/down almost 4 out of 5 days
I HAVE A BIG DOUBT... PLEASE CLEAR IT ...SUPPOSE I HAVE TAKEN A MONTHLY IC OR IF (IRON FLY) FOR ANY INDEX AND IF I TAKE ANY OTHER INTRADAY POSITION SAY STRADDLE OR STARNGLE FOR THE SAME INDEX, I FOUND THAT ALL THE GRAPH OR CHART LOOKS ABSURD OR CANNOT DIFFERNTIATE BETWEEN MONTLY OR DAILY INTRADAY.... WHAT CAN BE DONE FOR THAT... IS CORRCT TO TAKE TRADE WHEN ONE TRADE (SETUP) IS ONGOING... PLEASE CLARIFY.
In this world no one teach you how to make money.............all the person who make videos for youtube rarely can earn any money from trading, just they are earning money from selling courses......if any one really want to earn money, dont follow anyone, develop your own skill for interpretation, there are only 1% traders can earn money from intraday trading, Believe me they dont share their trading style with anyone, if they share their trading style with you although you cant earn, unless your interpretetion is correct, Believe me its a real tough world
Strategies been discussed or thought with half information.. On these strategies people may or may not loose money however their money will not used for full potential. I don't agree on the margin requirement in this video, there won't be any big difference in the margin requirement even though you enter in both the legs or in one leg. Sometimes when people don't have real valuable content then they work on the existing content and change if & but's to come up with new content.. So sad.. Don't talk very vague, show the back tested results and the period of tested data to validate.. Just take this info if its useful or just ignore as I expect more quality content..
True..I always scrolling up these videos to see if anybody has something new to work upon but after watching them, i realize that, i have wasted my time here and i have better knowledge than them.. i dont understand on what basis these people make video...they make video just to increase their views, subs to make money from youtube.
Disadvantage is that this strategy will not work if market is sideways and non trending but beautifully works in trending market as per my backtesting result on opstra.Just today before seeing this vdo I tested this assume first and then trade strategy.
Jagan ji, I've initiated 9:20 strategy in Banknifty and closed at 3:09 with 1% loss. Could you please tell me the stoploss for the PE in the strangle pair where PE from strangle A and CE from strangle B?
There's nothing confusing. Usually straddle sellers also buy deep OTM options to reduce margin requirements. These buy trades usually lead to small losses which is the cost for hedging
It looks worse then 9:20 straddle, Because when we lose we might lose more than 9:20, because premiums are not equal if SL of small premium is hit first, we will enter bigger premium trade then if this bigger premium also hits SL, we will be losing more than straddle doers, and also miss that 10% range bound days. No Edge can be proven by this, you need to do backtesting. And entering the way you suggested by trigger price than it will be foolishness, we will be losing that extra premium you told and also the rangebound days.
Jegan sir hopefully you are earning good amount in trading....request you not to misguide retail people with your TUGLAK strategies.. people are not worried about loosing of 5k training of your fees...after training people are loosing lakhs of rupees by following your strategies.. Do not eat BLOOD FOOD....PLZ
Kiddish strategy….even watchman working in a hedge fund or brokerage knows this…once or twice if pattern is Vshape…then forget that months whole return
Why somany videos.? No body thinks somany trading strategies. Traders require simple key parameters 3 or 4. Only naked buy options can fetch with less money around Rs 1 lac. With few indicators like Vwap, macd, Supertrend, Darvas box. No need of somany vides. inforation.
Jegen, genius person like you could have made better video, naked selling is always very dangerous, especially for banknifty, you could have made some hedge, may be you could some make profit by buying instead of selling, using this method
Very risky trade it is like selling naked options, no matter at what time you are selling. For someone who is trading at 9:17 am will enter at 9:20 when market is trending using this method than someone who is planning to watch market after 9:20 am
The concept seems like an adaption of a similar strategy that Vishal Mehta shared in Traders Carnival held 1st week of November 2021. Nevertheless, very useful strategies - this as well as vishal's. Thanks to Jegan and Vishal.
Thank you. Will refer to that as well
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Positional strategies are better than intraday strategies when you compare them in terms of profit, margin and psychology... Screen time is more in this. I already tried this strategy for 6 months until the margin rule came. At the end of the month, your profit will be around 4000-6500 per month per lot. That too is without guarantee ( if both sides SL hit many times you will end up in loss). Finally, never ever premiums will match at ATM strikes. It's just my analysis
You are simply awesome 😎 Venu , you are true , I agree 💯
If positional, what is the adjustment for gapup and gapdown
@@nitinsubudhi5158 your go to Day Trader thelugu you tube channel
@@alaharisathishbabu3963 thank you ji
@@alaharisathishbabu3963 yes man, those are very good adjustments with very good calculations. Once again thank you for your suggestion.
excellent guide to not to lose much....thank you for your teaching.
I experimented this sometime back, the problem I faced was when the market reverses now you have two to worry. one modification I did was move both the leg's SL to the first leg's entry price.
Can u plz explain. Didn't get
@@MrFinanceWalla same felling here
I do same thing. It's like trailing SL
Good idea...Thank you..🙏🙏
Super video. THANK YOU !
sir plz use graphical representation while teaching it ll help us a lot.....as days go what ll happen
SUPERB SIR.... PRESENTLY I AM TRADING 9:20 STRADDLE
Ur sl not getting hit?
Don't trade in 9.20
Dont follow the crowd its risky
Super idea sir
Hats off to you
9.20 straddle works only if the 9.20 candle have high volume second to the 9.15 so for the high volume high time to break the candle high low so time decay happen can catch premium . But if break low or high fast of 9.20 andle can give stoploss hunt so try strangle at same premium 3%away from atm.
Excellent video with excellent logic
Its good to implement Double Diagonal calendar spread strategy Algo that i ran it weekly options and it gives good profit to me
Can u brief more clearly
where we have lost money in opposite side?
Rire now dt.01.04.22 to 30 aprim this stretagy not work very volitile markt in thisarket what should we do any stretagy for v shape or w shape market. Help us through some light.
what will you do if the iv of put is increasing and the iv of call dont fall then the put will give losses and the call price will not decay .
second - if we sell short straddle and the theta increases then price of both the options will increase and we will close it in loss .
May God 🙏 Bless you Enough ❣️
You miss one factor, premium difference in each legs. That matters in premium decay. I backtest this idea before but there is no significant difference at 10 am entry.
Please can you explain? I don't get what you mean.
I feel this is extremely risky because in the end to close your trade you need to buy 2 CE now and the market can easily go up after going 20 percent down (correct me if I'm wrong)
bhai poora life risky hai... 2 lots mei hoga ( 15 ke hisab se) i thk 2100. If you fix your loss and then keep at it then the law of probablity will be in your favour. haan,,, beech mein tum buying mei thppe banna chahoge toh usme tumhara paisa jayega. otherwise selling is smooth way to do things, na pressure , heart attack, BP or guidiness, I guess if you are doing a 5 lakh ka selling keep a 1 % loss margin in your brain just cut the trade if you see loss at 5000. Kyu Jagen sir, yenna soringe?
if you want to be good in Scalping make your money in selling , then profit ke paise se risk utha, =Not i repeat not with your selling ka capital.
Total confusion. Your other videos are very clear
awesome 🙏
Hlo sir,,, your video is faithfully and good for knowledge but sir i want to tell you something can you explain in hindi to stock market
Please explain option opstra, it will be helpfull this is confusing
It seems superb ! Good invention !! Thank you Jagan
What is implied future price? Is it bank nifty future price ?
I think it is
sir y dnt u do this in live MARKET ATLEAST 1 WEEK BCZ IN BACKTEST EVERYTHING LOOKS GOOD
That's what he does everyday, just analyse his screenshots
Wow jagan sir.great video.
What's so great? The great thing is you commented in 3 mins of video was out and video is of 20 mins. Atleast see full video before commenting.
sir with this strategy what one should do on days like 29th april 2022
really good one jagan
Writing comment on 15-Nov-2022
So this strategy is like:
@ 9.20, Sell PE or CE as per your view, if SL hits, sell opposite side Option type at market price, this will kill more in case of reversals from SL point..
Specially in market like 2022 when it's gap up/down almost 4 out of 5 days
May be if you make a follow up video with strategy in market and explain for two days
Yes sir...it is far better than 920...thx...
thank you so much... excellent strategy...thank you
what u understand in this can u explain>>???
Sir, your way of teaching is awesome .
Same strategy in Stock Mock with back tested result before more than 5-6 months back
what if we sell both CE and PE after the assumed SL hits in one side? hope someone could back test the results
Amazing strategy
Nice explanation anna
Backtest looks good, but in real trade need to control emotion because this strategy may give continueous one week loss
Hey can you share the back test data over mail. Would be really helpfull. Thanks in advance
very useful video
Dear Sir ,In this method should we sell one leg only….? If so not a straddle"?
Sir please suggest,if after sl hit ,if we will convert it as calendar ,what will happen sir
Do we buy 2 lots instead of 1?
I HAVE A BIG DOUBT... PLEASE CLEAR IT ...SUPPOSE I HAVE TAKEN A MONTHLY IC OR IF (IRON FLY) FOR ANY INDEX AND IF I TAKE ANY OTHER INTRADAY POSITION SAY STRADDLE OR STARNGLE FOR THE SAME INDEX, I FOUND THAT ALL THE GRAPH OR CHART LOOKS ABSURD OR CANNOT DIFFERNTIATE BETWEEN MONTLY OR DAILY INTRADAY.... WHAT CAN BE DONE FOR THAT... IS CORRCT TO TAKE TRADE WHEN ONE TRADE (SETUP) IS ONGOING... PLEASE CLARIFY.
Sir, For entering stop loss we need all the hedging money as in the morning 9:20 straddle
If we do paper trade
After PE SL HIT in paper trade
And if if we sell CE 2 lots
Then the same logic will work or not
After wait and trade,if Market comes to call option
To sell without buying CE or Put you need high margin ... how is it possible
If this strategy really work then we can take first virtual trade and in which SL hit then oposite side take tread using real money , Concept is same
You🙏 are super brother
In this world no one teach you how to make money.............all the person who make videos for youtube rarely can earn any money from trading, just they are earning money from selling courses......if any one really want to earn money, dont follow anyone, develop your own skill for interpretation, there are only 1% traders can earn money from intraday trading, Believe me they dont share their trading style with anyone, if they share their trading style with you although you cant earn, unless your interpretetion is correct, Believe me its a real tough world
Really good
If so better to buy option straddle to fix this issue instead of sell
Didn’t get it. So one side SL HIT, we buy one more LOT of the other side which is giving profit ? Very badly explained
is it working now also ?
It works all days..... I m following this past 8 months successfully.... Brilliant strategy....
Strategies been discussed or thought with half information.. On these strategies people may or may not loose money however their money will not used for full potential. I don't agree on the margin requirement in this video, there won't be any big difference in the margin requirement even though you enter in both the legs or in one leg. Sometimes when people don't have real valuable content then they work on the existing content and change if & but's to come up with new content.. So sad.. Don't talk very vague, show the back tested results and the period of tested data to validate.. Just take this info if its useful or just ignore as I expect more quality content..
True..I always scrolling up these videos to see if anybody has something new to work upon but after watching them, i realize that, i have wasted my time here and i have better knowledge than them.. i dont understand on what basis these people make video...they make video just to increase their views, subs to make money from youtube.
Jay shree Krishna
I didn't get how to execute?
Can anybody explain
So the simple lesson is..
If 90 percent of time sl is hit in morning short straddle.. Then its better to do long straddle
Pretty sure that's not what he meant :-)
you just can't do the opposite, time decay won't be in your favor 😀
In the morning session within an hour or so if sl is hit in sl based short straddle.. It will be in loss..
@@avinashvijaya2800 not if the rest of the session turns out profitable thereafter!
Disadvantage is that this strategy will not work if market is sideways and non trending but beautifully works in trending market as per my backtesting result on opstra.Just today before seeing this vdo I tested this assume first and then trade strategy.
80% profits comes from trending market & 80% stop loss hit on either side
Even in this strategy, reversal will hurt
Awsome idea Sir!
No matter how great the strategy is, I feel intra day trades don't work that well in the long run.
no bro. weekly option selling strategy may have good chance of winning.
Never say never. It may work or not depending on how and what we trade. It does not depend if the trade was intraday or positional.
Use all Stock mock terms In the video and don't give any credits at all..
Why jegan ? Give credits to stock mock
Sir what to do when the IV are different for CE and PE at 9.20
How much is the drawdown % for this strategy?
Huge losses if market goes up down up down same day.
@@vac2695 how huge loss we already have stop loss
Both the stoploss ll hit these days 😀
Jagan ji,
I've initiated 9:20 strategy in Banknifty and closed at 3:09 with 1% loss. Could you please tell me the stoploss for the PE in the strangle pair where PE from strangle A and CE from strangle B?
It could be due to IV spike which happens on few days. In long term, it gets evened out.
Any strategy will not work if done at same time everyday.
Totally confusing from 13:40 onwards...you suddenly start talking about "buying for hedging" and lost me.
There's nothing confusing. Usually straddle sellers also buy deep OTM options to reduce margin requirements. These buy trades usually lead to small losses which is the cost for hedging
Half in RUclips video and remaining half in workshop
Current market scenario is almost everyday this stoploss will hit
LOW ME SELL HIGH ME SL KYA LOGIC HAI SAMJH KE PARE
Genius
👌No other word.
Hi jegan or anyone : is it naked ce selling without selling pe ?
Same question i have, entry not mentioned...i didn't understand
Can we use this for range bound stocks of wide cpr too jegan sir??
Watching this video in 2023 and v,w,u,y and z all the patterns seeing everyday😂😂😂😂😂😅😅😅😅
It's better to close this position by 9.40
Totally confusing.. suddenly you started hedging.. suddenly confused 😕
Sir one doubt... Assuming if pe sl hit at 360 then we are entering ce at 240 r 250 r 260 ...then when we will enter pe again??
Why to enter PE again?
In this case, you are not entering pe. Neither at 9.20 nor after entering ce
@@MrFinanceWalla okay thanku
What if it reverses for the next 100 points and stays there
@@MrFinanceWalla is it naked ce sell ? Without pe leg
It looks worse then 9:20 straddle,
Because when we lose we might lose more than 9:20, because premiums are not equal if SL of small premium is hit first, we will enter bigger premium trade then if this bigger premium also hits SL, we will be losing more than straddle doers, and also miss that 10% range bound days.
No Edge can be proven by this, you need to do backtesting.
And entering the way you suggested by trigger price than it will be foolishness, we will be losing that extra premium you told and also the rangebound days.
Actually u don't understand the strategy. Pls listen again & again thanks
I think you didn't understand the strategy...
1st view sir... Great
1st comment for 1view comment
Still the basic problem of V, M, N and W remains.
how much money needed for the straddle
Agar sl leke reverse hua tab
There is no logic behind wait and trade i think
Then why u need to trade straddle, just trade directional by putting sl😃😃
SL 360 for put is wrong
The best way is create a new straddle for every 1% move....
Jegan sir hopefully you are earning good amount in trading....request you not to misguide retail people with your TUGLAK strategies..
people are not worried about loosing of 5k training of your fees...after training people are loosing lakhs of rupees by following your strategies..
Do not eat BLOOD FOOD....PLZ
Well said bro
Sir , please make it a little bit conplecated
Kiddish strategy….even watchman working in a hedge fund or brokerage knows this…once or twice if pattern is Vshape…then forget that months whole return
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This is a loss making sir. Both ce and pe hitting sl
1 view and 12 likes aa.
OMG youtube . whats happen to you.
hey annaa manam andaram trading trolls family ey kada he he
@@chaitanyamattaparthi Oo. welcome brother
Why somany videos.?
No body thinks somany trading strategies.
Traders require simple key parameters 3 or 4.
Only naked buy options can fetch with less money around Rs 1 lac.
With few indicators like
Vwap, macd, Supertrend, Darvas box.
No need of somany vides. inforation.
Jegen, genius person like you could have made better video, naked selling is always very dangerous, especially for banknifty, you could have made some hedge, may be you could some make profit by buying instead of selling, using this method
Very risky trade it is like selling naked options, no matter at what time you are selling. For someone who is trading at 9:17 am will enter at 9:20 when market is trending using this method than someone who is planning to watch market after 9:20 am
Too confusing bro.. Not sure how many strategy you said.. and no clarity...
Marketing gimmick
Please dont fool retail traders with your fishy strategy....
Baalaa shivaa reddy...this niggaa jagan is mad....😂😂😂
Yes I was also thinking...what the f is he saying, 😂😂😂
Content is good but your are not explaining clearly.try to explain in easy way.