Что тут не понятного? У чувака на аккумуляторе накрылась плата BMS и он правильно сообразил что чем заказывать у производителя новую батарею по бешеной цене (плату на замену там купить невозможно), то ,дешевле купить комплект литиевых ячеек (42 шт), новую плату BMS 7S для литиевых ячеек, другой контроллер и другой дисплей и прочую мелочевку и все это собрать по схеме на 24 вольта на велике. При этом у него получился выигрыш в емкости аккумулятора в 2 раза. У старого было 9000 mah , а он получил новую батарею на 18000 mah и при этом получилось по деньгам реально почти в 3 раза дешевле. Я бы на его месте за потраченные им 200 евро собирал батарею с контроллером и тем же дисплеем на 36 вольт по схеме 10S 6P. Вот и вся суть, а как он это делал и как кинул европейского производителя, все подробно показано
Thank you for good video...question-how you manage a speed sensor? Is it must be separate sensor, or board computer calculates speed by rpm on hall sensors?
You can even do it for under € 100,- if you use the original NiMh batteries. Often these are OK and only the circuitboard is faulty. Just take the + 24 volt from the fuseholder to circumvent the electronics.
what and why is that...¨..just take the + 24 volt from the fuseholder to circumvent the electronics...¨ The BMS is no problem when doing this, i read somewhere saying BMS dont accept new cells or is this nonsense..?
@@mathw2703 original bms needs programming by a dealer. these bikes suck for diy u cant do anything without extensive modding or compeltely rebuilding everything.
Hola David, I have a Sparta Ion LS with a bad battery. Can I also just replace the original green batteries and keep the original sofware/controller or is the software on the controller not allowing this?
Hi. Great video. What changes did you do to hub motor. My motor have two electronic boards inside. By look it looks that whole controler is inside the hub itself.
Hi Bassel, first of all I never used the oginial battery for anything, the cells are OK but the electronic sucks, so if you want to reuse the cells is not needed to remove from the case. I never was able to remove from the case, the epoxy they use in factory is too strong to be removed. PLEASE TAKE A LOT OF CARE WOTH THIS ACTIVITY, I SHORTED OUT ONE CELL TRYING TO REMOVE IT FROM THE ORIGINAL CASE AND ONE PACK GET ON FIRE FULL OF CELLS, VERY VERY DANGEROUS, DON´T DO IT. WITH ONE STUPID, ME, IS ENOUGH. Thanks. DJ.
Very nice video! I have a Batavus Viento easy pedelec bicycle, with similar in-frame battery like yours , which is dead. Do you think it is possible to fix that as well?
I can’t be more satisface, I use the bicicle every day. The max speed pedaling and helping the system is around 40km/h. I changed nothing at all after this time.
Hi David, did you found out how to solve the error E007? I have the same error on my bike but I'm not using the throttle, so my motor doesn't work. I'm only using a PAS sensor. Any help is welcome. I checked the hall sensors and they are working, also when I connect the green settings cables the wheel spins. Any suggestions?
Hi Ruben, Sorry for the late reply, too much work now. Sorry but finnaly this motor controller never works as expected and I returned to the supplier and I order another model.
@@Davideljeringa I have the same problem. I put everything together and I have an error E07: / hall I did not connect only the 3 phases of the engine. It's strange how I hold it - the bike goes for a few seconds, but only 6 km / h
Sir, what a Great step - by - step tutorial! Thank you so much! May i have just two questions:is there any possibility to use li-ion battery pack with an old controller pbc (inside the wheel) and original monitor? Wha didn't you build 36v battery (the motor seems good enough for that)?
Hi and thanks for your coment. The controller has been installed in the same space that the battery, so the order is battery, then controller and the last the whole wiring and connections. Cheers. DJ
hi mein Vater hat im Heimat 2 stuck davon ich auch mit dem gute Akkus aber von andere fahhhrad,yellen wurde ich behalten nur die bms wurde ich ausbauen und neue einbauen, kannst du mir sagen welche bis ich nehmen soll für originale ladergerat bye Akku mit 9000mh und 11000mh 24v. DEINE Videos sind echt professionell,also so ameteur Profi . danke Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Can this motor take 75v 50A or 60A? I am willing to get this motor to test how much power it can take just for fun. They are super cheap here in Poland.
It should be able to take at least 55 volts. That has been done. But you have to realise that the only way to determine the maximum wattage is to raise the voltage untill smoke comes out :-)
@@mbcrecords2356 kinda the same of rest of Europe but the service of a battery builder is cheaper. You buy the cells and give to the guy who build custom battery. I only use Lipos so I don't have to deal with that
Hi thank you for a great video !! I almost have all the parts needed for the restore .can you tell me what BMS you use and a link for it ( if possible ) Also where can I get the plans for the Banana case or do you sell the case if you do I would buy one from you,Again thank you so much for the video Phil, Wexford Ireland.
@@Davideljeringa I am trying to figure out what to buy so I can use the original charger and some lipo's. controller: www.banggood.com/24V36V48V-350W-E-bike-Brushless-Speed-Controller-Dial-LCD-Meter-For-Motorcycle-p-1151793.html Which bms?: www.banggood.com/search/bms-7s.html
@@Davideljeringa I was thinking about buying this one. Cheap and cheerful. But I don't see a max voltage in the specs. www.banggood.com/3S-4S-5S-6S-7S-15A-20A-18650-Lithium-Battery-Protection-Board-12V-24V-29_4V-Li-ion-Packs-BMS-with-Balance-Heat-Sink-p-1816421.html
It's great. Thanks to this I have an electric bicycle. It's going great. Thank you !!!
Like a pro indeed.... thanks for the lessons of today mr.david
How do u pair the new battery with the bike.... Its wont accept a new battery i am told
your content is very professional and unique mate,, keep it up
Дорогой человек. Как же не зватает перевода !!! Видео хорошее, всё досконально показываете- но какие то моменты хотелось бы понимать из разговора.
Что тут не понятного? У чувака на аккумуляторе накрылась плата BMS и он правильно сообразил что чем заказывать у производителя новую батарею по бешеной цене (плату на замену там купить невозможно), то ,дешевле купить комплект литиевых ячеек (42 шт), новую плату BMS 7S для литиевых ячеек, другой контроллер и другой дисплей и прочую мелочевку и все это собрать по схеме на 24 вольта на велике. При этом у него получился выигрыш в емкости аккумулятора в 2 раза. У старого было 9000 mah , а он получил новую батарею на 18000 mah и при этом получилось по деньгам реально почти в 3 раза дешевле. Я бы на его месте за потраченные им 200 евро собирал батарею с контроллером и тем же дисплеем на 36 вольт по схеме 10S 6P. Вот и вся суть, а как он это делал и как кинул европейского производителя, все подробно показано
Thank you for good video...question-how you manage a speed sensor? Is it must be separate sensor, or board computer calculates speed by rpm on hall sensors?
You can even do it for under € 100,- if you use the original NiMh batteries. Often these are OK and only the circuitboard is faulty. Just take the + 24 volt from the fuseholder to circumvent the electronics.
what and why is that...¨..just take the + 24 volt from the fuseholder to circumvent the electronics...¨ The BMS is no problem when doing this, i read somewhere saying BMS dont accept new cells or is this nonsense..?
@@mathw2703 original bms needs programming by a dealer. these bikes suck for diy u cant do anything without extensive modding or compeltely rebuilding everything.
Hoi Jos wat bedoel met de 24 volt afhalen?
Hola David, I have a Sparta Ion LS with a bad battery. Can I also just replace the original green batteries and keep the original sofware/controller or is the software on the controller not allowing this?
I tried to take out the cells from the banana but they are stuck.. do you have an idea on how to take'em out?
hey do these bikes move on their own or do you have to drive manually
@@sTale0 hall sensors and a weird sensor that measures the pressure put on the axle
Hi. Great video. What changes did you do to hub motor. My motor have two electronic boards inside. By look it looks that whole controler is inside the hub itself.
hi david , did you used old original Throttle or you replace it with new one ???
Please tell me how to fix error code E000 for ebike SPARTA ion. Thank you
how did you install the pas sensors ?
I bought a secondhand sparta ion bike, the charging port is removed. Where can I get it, and how to check the battery condition?
can you show us how to open the battery? and how we can remove the cells from the original battery? I tried and they are stuck
The cells in the original battery are glued, you cannot replace them.
Hi Bassel, first of all I never used the oginial battery for anything, the cells are OK but the electronic sucks, so if you want to reuse the cells is not needed to remove from the case. I never was able to remove from the case, the epoxy they use in factory is too strong to be removed.
PLEASE TAKE A LOT OF CARE WOTH THIS ACTIVITY, I SHORTED OUT ONE CELL TRYING TO REMOVE IT FROM THE ORIGINAL CASE AND ONE PACK GET ON FIRE FULL OF CELLS, VERY VERY DANGEROUS, DON´T DO IT. WITH ONE STUPID, ME, IS ENOUGH.
Thanks.
DJ.
May I know the website from which you buy the plastic tube for batteries?
Hello sir,what kind of controller do you assemble bacause you can t put in the video thank you .
Good afternoon David, could you publish the settings for the controller?
Hello , where I can buy the controller and the sensor?
Where is the PAS sensor in this case? Can't you use both?
Hello , did you find the PAS sensor?
hey friend, I appreciate your help but your hand was in front of the camera for the most of the time.....
nice video
do you have a link of the controler???
Great video! At 19:10 you show the end cap on the bike frame. How did you make it?
Do you think I can do the same with a Koga Miyata Tesla?
Very nice video! I have a Batavus Viento easy pedelec bicycle, with similar in-frame battery like yours , which is dead. Do you think it is possible to fix that as well?
Мотор штатный на 24 вольт?
Witam. Mozna schemat. Jak. Podpioc kable z silnika hall
Hi. please tell me if you are satisfied with the result? what is the maximum speed? what changes did you make after a year?
I can’t be more satisface, I use the bicicle every day. The max speed pedaling and helping the system is around 40km/h. I changed nothing at all after this time.
Goood!) is the controller the same?
@@ziki19931 of course is the same that I saw on the video
Какая модель контроллера ?
Hi David, did you found out how to solve the error E007? I have the same error on my bike but I'm not using the throttle, so my motor doesn't work. I'm only using a PAS sensor.
Any help is welcome. I checked the hall sensors and they are working, also when I connect the green settings cables the wheel spins. Any suggestions?
Hi Ruben,
Sorry for the late reply, too much work now. Sorry but finnaly this motor controller never works as expected and I returned to the supplier and I order another model.
@@Davideljeringa what controller do u have now ? cheers
@@Davideljeringa I have the same problem. I put everything together and I have an error E07: / hall I did not connect only the 3 phases of the engine. It's strange how I hold it - the bike goes for a few seconds, but only 6 km / h
Sir, what a Great step - by - step tutorial! Thank you so much!
May i have just two questions:is there any possibility to use li-ion battery pack with an old controller pbc (inside the wheel) and original monitor?
Wha didn't you build 36v battery (the motor seems good enough for that)?
Giede avond Mag ik weten de merk van deze controller
Very nice video and good explanation, bud where did you put the controller if I may ask?
Hi and thanks for your coment.
The controller has been installed in the same space that the battery, so the order is battery, then controller and the last the whole wiring and connections.
Cheers.
DJ
hi
mein Vater hat im Heimat 2 stuck davon ich auch mit dem gute Akkus aber von andere fahhhrad,yellen wurde ich behalten nur die bms wurde ich ausbauen und neue einbauen, kannst du mir sagen welche bis ich nehmen soll für originale ladergerat bye Akku mit 9000mh und 11000mh 24v.
DEINE Videos sind echt professionell,also so ameteur Profi .
danke
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Can this motor take 75v 50A or 60A? I am willing to get this motor to test how much power it can take just for fun. They are super cheap here in Poland.
It should be able to take at least 55 volts. That has been done. But you have to realise that the only way to determine the maximum wattage is to raise the voltage untill smoke comes out :-)
Wassup diogo, what does an average full battery cost in poland? I would like to hear from you man
@@josmeijer this is the way
@@mbcrecords2356 kinda the same of rest of Europe but the service of a battery builder is cheaper. You buy the cells and give to the guy who build custom battery. I only use Lipos so I don't have to deal with that
Hi, can you share the 3d printed files?
Bravo🎉
Hi David, I have a few questions about the motor control and motor sensors you are using. I want to mail you. Is this possible?
Yes sure, email is davideljeringa@gmail.com
@@Davideljeringa I sent an e-mail
Hi thank you for a great video !! I almost have all the parts needed for the restore .can you tell me what BMS you use and a link for it ( if possible ) Also where can I get the plans for the Banana case or do you sell the case if you do I would buy one from you,Again thank you so much for the video Phil, Wexford Ireland.
Hi did you find out? and whrere did you get the battery cells from? and how can I contact you?
also can you share the links for all the items you bought?
I would recommend Daly. They cost a few bucks more but are highly superior to the real cheap ones.
Can the original charger be used on the BMS?
Depend which bmw are you using,
@@Davideljeringa I am trying to figure out what to buy so I can use the original charger and some lipo's.
controller: www.banggood.com/24V36V48V-350W-E-bike-Brushless-Speed-Controller-Dial-LCD-Meter-For-Motorcycle-p-1151793.html
Which bms?: www.banggood.com/search/bms-7s.html
I am using the original charger, you must check the max input voltage of the bms, for your info the sparta original charger supply 34vdc
@@Davideljeringa I was thinking about buying this one. Cheap and cheerful. But I don't see a max voltage in the specs. www.banggood.com/3S-4S-5S-6S-7S-15A-20A-18650-Lithium-Battery-Protection-Board-12V-24V-29_4V-Li-ion-Packs-BMS-with-Balance-Heat-Sink-p-1816421.html
Witaj jaki jest to sterownik bo nic nie widać jak pokazujesz.
Sorry also how many batterys do you use ??
Hi sorry for late reply How many batterys do you need for the same as you have on the video ?? The battery in video is the same on my wife's bike
Very well done!
perfect...👍
Sabes si se puede oir en castellano
super.
Dont understand a word youre saying ...pretty bad mumbled English...
Hallo i try too download the battery holder but Is no file. Can you check please thanks.