Anime Abandon - Mobile Suit Gundam: The 08th MS Team

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  • Опубликовано: 13 окт 2024

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  • @Germania9
    @Germania9 5 лет назад +275

    Worth mentioning is that the character designer of MSG: 08th MS Team is the same guy behind Cowboy Bebop's character design.

    • @katherinealvarez9216
      @katherinealvarez9216 5 лет назад +6

      Cool.

    • @Ichneumonxx
      @Ichneumonxx 5 лет назад +16

      You can totally see that here.

    • @jasonjimerson7046
      @jasonjimerson7046 5 лет назад +11

      It really shows. Good eye.

    • @Germania9
      @Germania9 5 лет назад +13

      @@jasonjimerson7046 Seriously followed his work since his Golden Boy era. His designs in the Ghost in the Shell PS1 game, especially Motoko Kusanagi herself, was phenomenal.

    • @chavesa5
      @chavesa5 3 года назад +2

      Oh that explains an awful lot

  • @pathora44
    @pathora44 5 лет назад +206

    Yes the Norris vs 08th MS team is arguably the greatest MS fight in the franchise and it is glorious. No newtypes and no super gundams/MS/Mobile Armors just a down and dirty fight between a true blue Zeon ace pilot against a team of talented Federation pilots.

    • @mokinokaro
      @mokinokaro 5 лет назад +28

      Every fight with Norris is great. They did such a good job making him really feel like an ace fighter without any cheats.

    • @hariman7727
      @hariman7727 5 лет назад +13

      I'm not putting any qualifiers on it.
      Norris versus the 8th Ms team is my most favorite fight in the franchise.

    • @arsarma1808
      @arsarma1808 5 лет назад +5

      Some of the Newtype fights are good too. Kshatriya versus Stark Jegan demonstrates the differences in philosophy and power of the Zekesand the Feddie’s.

    • @pathora44
      @pathora44 5 лет назад +7

      I am sorry but your extra terrestrial cousin Kira Yamato aka "Space Jesus" is the worst Gary Stu in the entire franchise.

    • @sheridanrises909
      @sheridanrises909 5 лет назад +3

      @Savage Jesus Heero Yuy is much more of a Gary Stu than Shiro.

  • @captainsteroid2454
    @captainsteroid2454 5 лет назад +228

    I place the blame for Gundam Vietnom turning into Michael Bay's Pearl Harbor on the sad fact that the original director, Takeyuki Kanda, was killed in a car wreck midway through the series. Sunrise had to get a new one, and, unfortunately, they picked Umanosuke Iida, who wanted to focus more on the "starstruck lovers" angle than had been originally planned. It's tragic, really. :-(

    • @Razkunn
      @Razkunn 5 лет назад +16

      I hate liking this post, as it seems inappropriate, but at the same time, thanks for sharing this bit of context.

    • @holyordersol2668
      @holyordersol2668 5 лет назад +26

      I did not know the original director passed away during production, but I didn't mind the Romeo & Juliet story they were telling either. The action was still gritty and realistic.
      We need more well choreographed mobile suit ground combat.

    • @ColonelCarnage
      @ColonelCarnage 5 лет назад +8

      Shiro and Aina were the only things that kept me interested in the actual plot. I like the themes, setting and battles. But besides Sanders and Shiro the squad was a bunch of unlikeable dickheads. I also didn’t care about Kiki I wish her screen time was cut in half.

    • @andresmarrero8666
      @andresmarrero8666 5 лет назад +3

      @@holyordersol2668 that would be a bit difficult considering that Gundams aren't made for a terrestrial environment, you would have to use other mechs for that which would be a welcome change of pace for me. That and dropping the whole opra part. There comes to a point where you have way too much drama in a series, I personally never cared about soap operas.

    • @holyordersol2668
      @holyordersol2668 5 лет назад +13

      @@andresmarrero8666 "Gundams aren't made for terrestrial environment"
      Except the existence of the RX-79[G] Ground Type Gundams proves that to be false. Gundams serve a multitude of roles, even if they need to be modified to do so (i.e. the GP01's transition from Earth to space).
      Also, a mainline Gundam series doesn't exist without some serious drama.
      Now, if you're using the word "drama" to refer specifically to "love story", then I can agree with you.
      As for the "opra part" you mentioned, the only thing that would be lacking is the "space" part of "space opera".
      Honestly, 08th MS Team is hardly unbearably gushy (imo). I feel 0083 is far more over-dramatic with its love story that I wish it just didn't exist (especially when the love triangle is revealed out of left field).
      But to each their own.

  • @brunoberserk8010
    @brunoberserk8010 5 лет назад +210

    the original director of this anime, Takeyuki Kanda , died during the production , maybe that 's why the ending is so '' weird '' ...

    • @lorcannagle
      @lorcannagle 5 лет назад +44

      The writer left the production as well, so yeah, it was troubled to say the least.

    • @johnnyfountainS
      @johnnyfountainS 5 лет назад +7

      I love the ending. Last Resort.

    • @brayanargandonaflorentino548
      @brayanargandonaflorentino548 5 лет назад +4

      Yeah but the test subject just there to fill up more time than finding Shiro and Aina whereabouts

    • @judeskater93
      @judeskater93 5 лет назад +3

      Bruno Berserk it would also explain why it feels rather rushed as well.

    • @JeffreyPiatt
      @JeffreyPiatt 5 лет назад +8

      Last Resort gave some explanation for the kids. There from the infamous Flanagan Institute. There zeon's first cyber newtypes who were landed to earth on that komusai with the research data.

  • @AnthonyDaFox
    @AnthonyDaFox 5 лет назад +75

    Hands Down, the 08th MS team is the "fortunate Son" of the Gundam Franchise.

  • @driftercarbon
    @driftercarbon 5 лет назад +63

    "[They'll] have to leave without me. I've found my place to die." is such a *BADASS* line that I'm gonna have to go look that fight scene up, even if I don't get around to seeing the full show. That resonates with fan of samurai, cowboy, and drifter tales in me super hard. And as you can tell my name, that's a pretty big part of me.

    • @mokinokaro
      @mokinokaro 5 лет назад +11

      Every fight with him is really good. He shows why the mobile suits that most series treat as cannon fodder are feared in the lore.

    • @SaltpeterTaffy
      @SaltpeterTaffy 5 лет назад +4

      Here you go. :D
      ruclips.net/video/q4kEuNfbTWc/видео.html

    • @kaydwessie296
      @kaydwessie296 5 лет назад +2

      My dad is also a huge fan of those types of stories. To the point of always playing any cgaracter in a game who is either a samurai or a nomad

    • @Talthain
      @Talthain 5 лет назад +2

      Norris's fight aginst the main characters is one of my favorite Gundam battles.

    • @holden_7597
      @holden_7597 5 лет назад +2

      Drifter Carbon it’s a little late, but it’s on Hulu.

  • @RadioPlastic
    @RadioPlastic 5 лет назад +41

    That "war face" bit was priceless. Thanks for covering one of my favorite Gundams.

    • @ChiefXuligan
      @ChiefXuligan 5 лет назад +4

      Agreed! I want to get that in a separate video!

  • @barrybend7189
    @barrybend7189 5 лет назад +94

    5:57 in both Korea and Nam jungles hid large colloms of tanks and artillery I think hiding an 18 meter walking tank is not that much of a stretch( also including certain Gundam staples like Minovsky particle disruption to make it worse). And Sage I asked For SD Gundam Force you know the other Gundam show aired on toonami on the Saturday block after wing.

    • @DrewLSsix
      @DrewLSsix 5 лет назад +5

      Barry Bend Actually a tall object like a fundamental would be far harder to hide. One of the more important aspects of tank design is their profile being as low as practical. All things being equal a taller tank will be easier to spot sooner and thus will lose the advantage of first engagement.
      It was actually one of the major issues with the Bradley fighting vehicle, it started off as a transport then was up armed into a sort of light tank, the problem (or one of them anyway) was the thing was so tall that it became a target of fire before the tanks it may have been accompanying. Being a lightly armored troop carrier playing at a tank this was bad.
      That’s one of the most realistic issues with fundamental type machines in reality.

    • @barrybend7189
      @barrybend7189 5 лет назад +3

      @@DrewLSsix well I did say columns of tanks and artillery in the Korean and Vietnamese Jungles. I wasn't meaning the hight but the numbers.

    • @AlanTheBest97
      @AlanTheBest97 2 года назад +1

      From my millitary service, which was focused on jungle warfare I can 100% tell you that in a dense forest you can barely see past 50m, if that. Sound is really what gives you away.

  • @SMAXZO
    @SMAXZO 5 лет назад +124

    Vietnam War meets Romeo and Juliet except no suicides..

    • @geardog24
      @geardog24 5 лет назад +15

      But a lot more gruesome deaths.

    • @LuckyBastard12345
      @LuckyBastard12345 5 лет назад +4

      geardog24 Thats debatable

    • @ruedelta
      @ruedelta 5 лет назад +8

      @@LuckyBastard12345 The poor mountain range though...

    • @SMAXZO
      @SMAXZO 5 лет назад +8

      @Kaidoku123 You mean the novel ending? That's just the Gundam novels being needlessly dark...

    • @kalebsantos72
      @kalebsantos72 5 лет назад

      Also robots

  • @RandoChrisYT
    @RandoChrisYT 5 лет назад +78

    Gundamcember. The time of the year where I peek in on a franchise that is responsible for a friend and my roommate drowning in model kits.

    • @canalsincontenido
      @canalsincontenido 5 лет назад +12

      They are called gunpla, mom!

    • @kaydwessie296
      @kaydwessie296 5 лет назад +8

      My ex had a ton of gundams lol. I still have my SD Gundam I built during those times. I'm surprised it came out OK with my dumb-ass motor skills

    • @RexWort
      @RexWort 5 лет назад +4

      The PlasticCrack 😂

    • @ultris07
      @ultris07 5 лет назад +2

      @@RexWort second only to Warhammer?

  • @romankvapil9184
    @romankvapil9184 5 лет назад +3

    G-Wing had been the show got me in the Gundam series because it was the first show the franchise that got aired on Toonami as one of my first exposures to anime (the first being Sailor Moon) . But 08th MS Team is what made me truly love Gundam and appreciate anime in general.

  • @DocDelray
    @DocDelray 5 лет назад +16

    As a long time Battletech/MechWarrior fan, I actually loved this series for having so many battles being so grounded. It's rare to see a mecha anime where the giant walking tanks actually move and fight like giant walking tanks.

    • @XBloodAngelX10
      @XBloodAngelX10 2 года назад +1

      Just watch it and my god i enjoyed the journey.

    • @thomasffrench3639
      @thomasffrench3639 Год назад +2

      Check out Dougram. It’s a little rough around the edges, but helped establish Battletech.

    • @DocDelray
      @DocDelray Год назад +1

      @@thomasffrench3639 oh I know about it, watched it and loved it, freaking great series.

  • @johnnyfountainS
    @johnnyfountainS 5 лет назад +16

    When I bought the last 08th ms team dvd. I started crying when I saw Shiro Married to Aina. I looked like Kiki seeing him. I was all happy. Shiro is special as in cool special. Shiro got his left leg back when he stood up.

  • @briandoss9232
    @briandoss9232 2 года назад +5

    I loved 8th MS team. One of my favorite anime ever.

  • @zennistrad
    @zennistrad 5 лет назад +75

    Sage reviewing my favorite Gundam series? Hell yeah.

    • @johnnyfountainS
      @johnnyfountainS 5 лет назад +3

      Google Kamille Bidan. You might like Kamille better than Shiro later on. Rent Zeta Gundam on netflix.

    • @supergoron1
      @supergoron1 5 лет назад +1

      Ya, but when is he gonna review SD Gundam ?

    • @johnnyfountainS
      @johnnyfountainS 5 лет назад +3

      @@supergoron1 SD Gundam is not real Gundam.
      Sd gundam si just super deformed gundam. it's au as in alternte universe. Ben might review G Gundam. Ben needs to review Zeta Gundam.

    • @johnnyfountainS
      @johnnyfountainS 5 лет назад +1

      @@supergoron1 if you like sd gundam you can rent it on netflix.

    • @hollowlighter572
      @hollowlighter572 5 лет назад +1

      @@johnnyfountainS G gundam yes this needs to happen

  • @kevindeluna2040
    @kevindeluna2040 5 лет назад +67

    08th ms team and next 0083 stardust memory

    • @thelinedrive
      @thelinedrive 5 лет назад +5

      Kevin DeLuna the most banger of a theme in the entire Gundam franchise.

    • @canalsincontenido
      @canalsincontenido 5 лет назад +1

      SM is so complicated because if you're into mech porn or UC continuity it's just glorious and probably the best the franchise ever did (seeing the heroe who you got to love get into their space nazi uniforms at the end is such a punch in the gut). But a lot of people isn't into either and have the right to dislike and sure do.

    • @rossenator101
      @rossenator101 5 лет назад

      Still waiting for a possible review of g Gundam if we get one this year

    • @kevindeluna2040
      @kevindeluna2040 5 лет назад

      @@rossenator101 Yeah Me Too

    • @user-mz2yh6qz7y
      @user-mz2yh6qz7y 5 лет назад +1

      @Fawlee Runlan I gotta (full) Burnern Love!!!
      Sry

  • @LowellLucasJr.
    @LowellLucasJr. 5 лет назад +9

    Here's some footnotes dealing with 8th MS Team: it was the longest running gundam series as each ova ( in Japan) took a year to produce 3 or so episodes. ( 3 years total for the whole series). The original creator of the spinoff died around episode 7 so the show took a different shift in direction. Lastly the character designer was also responsible for Cowboy Beebop, Wolfs Rain and GUNDAM 0083!

  • @geardog24
    @geardog24 5 лет назад +112

    12:15 Now I want to see an Apocalypse Now version of Gundam.

    • @FortuitusVideo
      @FortuitusVideo 5 лет назад +5

      I think Gundam Narrative is the closest you'll get.

    • @pathora44
      @pathora44 5 лет назад +2

      With singing and dancing Colonel Kurtz!

    • @CornishCreamtea07
      @CornishCreamtea07 5 лет назад +6

      I love the sight of Mechs in the morning

    • @johnnyfountainS
      @johnnyfountainS 5 лет назад +3

      watch mad max 2 instead. Apocalypse pow.

    • @johnnyfountainS
      @johnnyfountainS 5 лет назад +3

      @@CornishCreamtea07 Just like napalm for coffee.

  • @johannesmakila2459
    @johannesmakila2459 5 лет назад +15

    It's miracle that 08th MS Team exists because of how different it is compared to typical entry in Gundam franchise. Bandai isn't known from wanting to take risks with they beloved cash cow franchise so that tends to limit what Sunrise can do with it. So Stardust Memory in next up eh? It's basically prequel to Zeta Gundam because it sets up Titans that are bad guys in Zeta Gundam.

  • @JayRizzleOhDizzle
    @JayRizzleOhDizzle 5 лет назад +2

    That was awesome man! Thanks! This is my personal favorite Gundam franchise, (Right next to G Gundam), and ot was great to hear your take on it!

  • @aztn19
    @aztn19 5 лет назад +4

    I always viewed episode 12 as a epilogue to the series, and wasn’t really mad at it. Sure, the main story is over by episode 11 with The Shuttering Mountain, and maybe most of Last Resort could be cutout to show Kiki & Mikhail finding Shiro & Ina as the happy-ish ending. I still enjoy the whole of 08th MS Team as one of my favorites in the Gundam franchise.

    • @XBloodAngelX10
      @XBloodAngelX10 2 года назад +2

      Just finished the series anf my god i fell in love with it. Its so good.

  • @Tacom4ster
    @Tacom4ster 5 лет назад +17

    It's on Hulu, more 90s anime for me, thanks Bennet

  • @CYBERDOODY
    @CYBERDOODY 5 лет назад +58

    The Gouf fight in this series was amazing

    • @amw2663
      @amw2663 5 лет назад +6

      if there was one thing, just one solitary thing that burned in my memory from this show's initial run on Toonami 17 yrs ago, it was that fight. Every single part of that fight was just a spectacle, Gouf #1 baby

    • @RexWort
      @RexWort 5 лет назад +2

      It's no Zaku boy!!
      No Zaku!!!
      ....
      Oh wrong series 😅

    • @campkira
      @campkira 5 лет назад +3

      They managed to make Gouf cool is achievement by itself.

    • @hiway19891
      @hiway19891 5 лет назад +1

      And there goes all the big budget they had.

  • @avencree
    @avencree 5 лет назад +3

    8th MS team was one of my favorite gundam series and I’m glad to see it reviewed on this show. The ending fell a bit flat for me but as a kid I never really knew why. As an adult looking back, I can see why. Still it hold a special place in my heart and I’ll probably go binge watch it on Hulu shortly after I write this.

  • @shingshongshamalama
    @shingshongshamalama 5 лет назад +3

    It also has one of the most incredibly real robot fight scenes ever holy shit this show is well animated.

  • @nautdead3197
    @nautdead3197 5 лет назад +4

    08th is my favorite gundam. I really liked the concept that they were just regular soldiers

  • @TheHauntedReader
    @TheHauntedReader 5 лет назад +2

    OMG, I was waiting for a long time for you to do look at this series! Super happy to be watching it. :]

  • @wonderwaffle93
    @wonderwaffle93 5 лет назад +5

    Probably my favorite.
    I remember how different and more grounded it was. Even to the fights.
    You didn’t have your OP special Gundam and it’s pilot running around the battlefield clearing out the area, here you could feel the weight and the intensity and how every shot counted.
    A straight up war story where every move had consequences, the fight with the ms Goud had to be my favorite, it was like if Jaws personified on how he ran around just taking down an entire team.
    That and I won’t lie, loved the figures haha customizable weapons and storage, that’s as some top tier stuff for me.

  • @Nonsensical_Mecha
    @Nonsensical_Mecha 5 лет назад +2

    My favorite Gundam series. It took me years, YEARS, to find the entire series.

  • @WinterFox1000
    @WinterFox1000 5 лет назад +1

    G Gundam was the first series I got to fully watch growing up in middle school as I didn't have cable at the time of Gundam Wing being aired, and for as hammy as it was at time I really loved it and its thanks to G Gundam that I even got into the moble suit series at all.

  • @gtsgreatteacherscathach5550
    @gtsgreatteacherscathach5550 5 лет назад +9

    The fight Sage mentioned was actually #1 on a Watchmojo list of Mecha battles. It even topped the final battle of Gurenn Lagan!

  • @nubreed13
    @nubreed13 4 года назад +1

    If you rewatch gundam 0079 they mention that the original federation mobile suits were only meant for land combat. The ability to fight in space was more of an afterthought. The zeon suits were meant for both since their territory was mostly in space

  • @DavidB.Rockin
    @DavidB.Rockin 5 лет назад +22

    And Festivus...Don't forget Festivus XD

    • @Jag-gr7oq
      @Jag-gr7oq 5 лет назад +2

      Its for the rest of us

  • @geardog24
    @geardog24 5 лет назад +60

    Gundams make every war fun.

    • @TheRezro
      @TheRezro 5 лет назад +2

      If you think so, then sign up for new Gundam pilot training project. If you ask if we develop such, then it is unimportant. You brain will be ready to operate this amazing project if it will be ready! MK Ultra signing out 0_0

    • @SaltpeterTaffy
      @SaltpeterTaffy 5 лет назад +6

      Unless it's War in the Pocket.

    • @XxnamcoxcapcomxX
      @XxnamcoxcapcomxX 5 лет назад +7

      Too bad teenagers and children nearly ruin Gundam.

    • @Idunnoyouguessit
      @Idunnoyouguessit 5 лет назад +3

      geardog24 Tell that to Usso, Judau, Amuro, or Domon

    • @RexWort
      @RexWort 5 лет назад +2

      XxnamcoxcapcomxX
      Well kids and teenagers that act they don't belong in that situation
      Real ones will break down or toughen up
      Or died

  • @gobokinje9183
    @gobokinje9183 5 лет назад

    This is the best time of year because of your series, Sage.
    Thank you so much for making these.

  • @eltrainmaroon1352
    @eltrainmaroon1352 5 лет назад +2

    The 08th mobile suit core is using mass production G class Gundams. These were reserved for units that had advanced piloting skills.

  • @alluringming
    @alluringming 3 года назад +2

    Can you imagine gundam series combining bits of 8th ms team and operation stardust? Possibly the two best universal era side stories. I think stated this on one of your other videos but i do love gundam series more focused on the soldiers rather than some kid learning to pilot mobile suit for first time and is the main focus of series.
    Am i also the only one odd that war only last a full year...you think with how big the earth is and how vast it is between earth, the moon, and colonies, you think that it would last longer too. I might be over thinking things and trying to apply logic to this.

  • @5ch3nk
    @5ch3nk 4 года назад +1

    The only Gundam series I could ever really get into, and I still love it.

  • @VengadorDorado91
    @VengadorDorado91 5 лет назад +3

    while 08th MS Team is one of my favorite Gundams, I can also see why someone would pick 0083 over it. it's definitely more streamlined and completely embraces the angle it's going for, aka, "Top Gun in space". it also has better overall animation and highly detailed designs.

  • @ryancarrell3186
    @ryancarrell3186 5 лет назад +8

    *chanting*
    Unicorn... unicorn. Unicorn! UNICORN! U N I C O R N !

  • @GFluegel
    @GFluegel 5 лет назад +2

    Not gonna lie, 8th MS Team is easily my favorite entry into the Gundam-franchise, next to the more recent "Iron-Blooded Orphans" you mentioned. I'm much more into the grounded scenario&warfare and relatable character interactions, compared to the mopey-kid-melodrama and superweapon-spacemagicks of many other Gundam-shows.
    And I even liked the starcross'd-lovers aspect here well enough. Both characters were pretty likable and had good chemistry and I feel that it added a nice additional angle to the entire story. But the series definitely has a somewhat lackluster dub... I enjoyed it much more once I switched to the sub, which has some excellent VAs (funfact: Shiro shares his voice with Zelda's Adult Link... very obvious when he screams :D).
    Would love to see an "Oldtaku, New Tricks"-episode on IBO.

  • @Wolfheartgal
    @Wolfheartgal 5 лет назад +1

    Yo, the female leads' name Aina was my grandmother's name. This episode was trippy for me just hearing her name peppered through out it; thank you for pouncing it right too - i have heard way too many variations of the name (some not too clean to say the least) . Had to check if it was spelled right too, and holy hell it was. Thanks for this episode and happy Holidays!

  • @fatcoyote2
    @fatcoyote2 5 лет назад +1

    I agree. THE best fight scene in Gundam, but a collection of the rest are amongst the most visceral and excellent in the franchise as a whole.

  • @jehb8945
    @jehb8945 5 лет назад +1

    I saw this on Toonami and I really enjoyed this and sage is not kidding about that fight scene as well as the sequence leading up to it as there is palpable Palm sweat inducing suspense.
    I thought this was a great Gundam series and hope to get my hands on the Blu-ray

  • @cjackproductionsemergencyc9161
    @cjackproductionsemergencyc9161 5 лет назад +2

    One of my ALL TIME GUNDAM SERIES IM AAAAALLL OVER THIS

  • @gunswinger3110
    @gunswinger3110 5 лет назад +6

    I've always liked the more grounded Gundam stories and that's probably the beginning parts of Gundam Seed and Iron-Blooded Orphans pulled me in. Almost no beam weapons, machine guns, melee weapons and all that. It really gives weight to the fights when you can see bullets ricochet off armor and shells hitting the ground.

    • @holyordersol2668
      @holyordersol2668 5 лет назад

      Agreed. Beam weapons are great and all, but they're almost always one-hit-kill wonders, which really takes the meat & potatoes out of a fight.

  • @lightningcomet7307
    @lightningcomet7307 5 лет назад +1

    Bennett: "not my personal favorite Gundam..."
    Me: "yeeeessss..."
    Bennett: "that title belongs to another OVA..."
    Me: "YEEEEEEEESSSSS....."
    *Bennett holds up 0083*
    Me: "FUCK YEAH!!!!!!"

  • @DreamerFromBeyond
    @DreamerFromBeyond 4 года назад +1

    18:17 He was so shock at how terrible a shot the Main protagonist was he just gives up on his life in search for a better isekai world. XD

  • @jesseguajardo8592
    @jesseguajardo8592 5 лет назад +1

    The One year war took place on all fronts both in space and the earth! Which means both sides needed Mobile Suits on all fronts. The Mobile Suits you see in this series on the ground type which means the mobile suit aren't going to be built the same way.

  • @TheKeyser94
    @TheKeyser94 5 лет назад +1

    Seeing how vast and dense the jungles are in Vietnam I would say that it would be very hard to find a robot that large, more if it camouflage with the environment, if you look from the air you wouldn't known the difference.

  • @QuintonTV
    @QuintonTV 5 лет назад +1

    Dude Stardust memory is your #1 Gundam pick. You sir, have great taste. Stardust is in my top 3, 8th MS team is #2, December Sky/ Thunderbolt #1. Great review man.

  • @Supramedical68
    @Supramedical68 5 лет назад +1

    0083 and 8th MS Team were two of my favorite Gundam products. Really great OVAs.

  • @rossenator101
    @rossenator101 5 лет назад +1

    Watched a few episodes of this. One of my favorite Gundam series of all time

  • @MegaBlacksocks
    @MegaBlacksocks 5 лет назад +1

    Thanks for reviewing this-my favorite Gundam series that’s basically the best of the series, if not the best mecha series ever

  • @vidk1dd96
    @vidk1dd96 5 лет назад +1

    Sage reviewing two of my favorite Gundam series back to back? Tis' certanly the season to be very joy. :)

  • @Superhrnet
    @Superhrnet 5 лет назад +17

    I disagree with the little nit-picks and hang-ups Sage has with the series, but his description of the major strengths and weaknesses are spot on, with the exception of the final conclusion: War movie and space opera do not mix. It may not be easy, but I think they do mix, and the praise Sage himself espoused to the show demonstrates this. I think 0080 demonstrates this as well.

    • @CosmoShidan
      @CosmoShidan 3 года назад

      Gundam's aim is to show how close to fascism that space opera is, in that the genre is colonialist. I would suggest reading Joe Haldeman's The Forever War, which is similar in themes to gundam.

    • @Superhrnet
      @Superhrnet 3 года назад

      @@CosmoShidan I will have to check it out, you aren't the first to recommend it to me. As for the thematic criticism of Space Opera as a genre; I guess I can see it, considering many of the Tomino directed series specifically emphasize the misery rather than the triumph. As for Anti-Colonialist messaging, I guess Zeta would exemplify that the most, and that Char's near genocidal ideas in CCA are a direct result of the impact the major political forces had on his life; the Zabis, the Feds, the different factions of the Titans, etc.

    • @CosmoShidan
      @CosmoShidan 3 года назад

      @@Superhrnet Space opera is generally a western in space, as it uses a space setting and planets as a stand-in for the USA as an uninhabited frontier. This in turn is perpetuating the American frontier myth, that the US was uninhabited when it was already settled by Native Americans. And yes, aliens are a stand-in for Native Americans. The original series is anti-colonialist in how the Federation imposes its will over its colonial subjects that we see in the first 13 episodes much like the USA or Britain were doing in the 19th and 20th centuries.

  • @raycearcher5794
    @raycearcher5794 5 лет назад +2

    After 00 I've had a hard time enjoying other Gundam as much. It's like a distillation of all the best parts of all the other shows, trimmed down to an extremely manageable length, with a really good soundtrack.

  • @ellnats
    @ellnats 5 лет назад +1

    14:03 I LOVE THAT GUY!!!, he was actually one of my favorite voice actors to play venom, and im not gonna lie even in kiddy or tween crap, he can get a good laugh

  • @Isildun9
    @Isildun9 5 лет назад

    Thank you, Sage, for doing this OVA. It is, hands down, my favorite Gundam series of all time.

  • @machetesaint2355
    @machetesaint2355 5 лет назад +15

    Platoon Gundam

  • @Zero-ry2rc
    @Zero-ry2rc 5 лет назад +1

    One thing that always leaves me floored by Gundam is its use of music. Even the bad series can utilize music pretty well.

  • @OniScythe
    @OniScythe 5 лет назад +2

    I love 8th Ms team....excluding the true ending. I remember Stardust Memory fondly but i forgot all of it aside from the mobile suit having a portable nuke attached. :)

  • @ShadowACE1998
    @ShadowACE1998 5 лет назад +1

    18:39 No need to explain. Stardust Memory is my favorite too. The first MG 1/100th scale Gunpla I built was the GP-01fb. Ive since built the GP-02, GP-03, and GP-04. Which wasn't in the anime, but is till bad ass.

  • @Foxpawed
    @Foxpawed 5 лет назад +2

    My favorite's still G Gundam because of how gloriously campy it is, and the fact that piloting gundams directly like what Pacific Rim later did goes a very long way in helping to justify why the hell you'd even bother making a giant death robot a bipedal human.

    • @asher8754
      @asher8754 5 лет назад +1

      it’s basiclly space robot wrestling which is why it’s the best. Yes there is melodrama but it’s not trying to preach to me some trite philosophic point about war. Bitch all I want is to see shining gundam and the other alliance gundam s best the shit out of devil gundam American history x style.

    • @holyordersol2668
      @holyordersol2668 5 лет назад +1

      @@asher8754 G Gundam does have a brief moment where it covers the anti-war message, but it's more of an add-on and it has an environmental spin on it.

  • @bryanadkins6776
    @bryanadkins6776 5 лет назад +1

    I remember really loving the ascetic of this show, the main Federation MS are cobbled together bullshit, all the gear has a palpable layer of rust and grime and dirt to it,
    It just really sticks out when compared to other entries.

  • @stephennootens916
    @stephennootens916 5 лет назад +1

    The only thing that I remember about The O8th MS Team was the Vietnam war feel to it that I thought was so damn cool, in a strange way it reminds me of Full Metal Panic at least the dark war parts of that series.

  • @Donk2015
    @Donk2015 5 лет назад +1

    By far my favorite Gundam series. I absolutely hate “the special” that crops up in most of these shows. And I love that these are just “weapons of war” and they have a huge support staff to keep these things up and running on the front lines. Really cool to see a “realistic” take of fantastic tech.

  • @Ratchetfan321
    @Ratchetfan321 5 лет назад +6

    i HOPE this goes well. MS Team is still my fav Gundam.

  • @bionicdragon5
    @bionicdragon5 5 лет назад +1

    16:07
    That has to be the best executed Saitama meme I've ever seen!

  • @MutaScale
    @MutaScale 5 лет назад +15

    #NotSpaceNazis thanks for that Sage, needed that chuckle.

    • @jf4132
      @jf4132 4 года назад

      Oh hey James didn’t know you stopped by here

  • @TheRezro
    @TheRezro 5 лет назад +2

    I like that Sage can point out flaws of this OVA so much :D

  • @chonwai
    @chonwai 5 лет назад +1

    one of the best soundtrack in any Gundam series!

  • @wdcain1
    @wdcain1 5 лет назад +1

    I remember being lukewarm to _08th MS Team_ since I thought the whole "fighting is wrong" message Shiro had halfway bugged me. The story of the Midnight Fenrir Corp. from the _Zeonic Front_ ps2 game would make a great OVA since they win every battle they fight and score some impressive victories (even getting one over Whitebase) but in the end, none of it matters since they weren't the "right" battles.
    I'm surprised you didn't mention how the original director died halfway through the series. That definitely accounts for the change in tone and story in the latter half.

    • @Temujin18S
      @Temujin18S 5 лет назад +2

      Couldn't agree more especially with his own declaration during his introduction to kill the Zeon soldiers and end the war, due to his colony being gassed. Somehow that's all negated because is infuated with a girl on the opposite side.

  • @sebastianemond5313
    @sebastianemond5313 2 года назад

    16:19 - 16:26 Why do I get vibes of Oblivion (2013) at the end of this series? Especially with that close up on Shiro smiling.
    "I am Shiro Amada... And I am home."

  • @roboticcynic580
    @roboticcynic580 5 лет назад

    Missed opportunity Bennett: you could have said joke "Ever had a Vietnam flashback."

  • @thedefinitive6296
    @thedefinitive6296 5 лет назад

    This is my favorite Gundam series. I loved how it was a more grounded look at the price of war especially, but OMG the action scenes are so good! Especially EZ-8 vs Gouf Custom.

  • @LazySamurai1354
    @LazySamurai1354 5 лет назад +1

    08th MS Team is seriously my favorite Gundam series

  • @kaydwessie296
    @kaydwessie296 5 лет назад +1

    I remember this playing and I remember watching it, but I remember nothing about it.
    It wasn't even bad I don't think (watched it on Toonami lol), but it played during the years of my life I've purged 90% of from my memory

  • @ellnats
    @ellnats 5 лет назад +2

    having not really watching much of the show, i kinda got the theme of the show just by seeing stuff and how the mobile suits operate, i was pretty much right that it was Gundam Vietnam

  • @Excalibur01
    @Excalibur01 5 лет назад

    Oddly enough, this was my FIRST Gundam series. I had no idea what the war was about or the previous series, but the story alone kept me interested and got me into watching the rest and boy...there was so much to see

  • @Earthshaker513
    @Earthshaker513 5 лет назад +1

    Aww yeah, we're getting Stardust Memory this year! Thank you, Santa Sage!!!!

  • @Vixenluvr
    @Vixenluvr 5 лет назад +1

    No need to justify, Sage. Stardust Memory is my favorite of the Universal Century line too. ^u^
    Only other one to be in my tops is a side story called "The Blue Destiny" and that's mainly for the technical aspect of the suits.

  • @SwiftGundam
    @SwiftGundam 5 лет назад

    You are right that mobile suits are design for space combat first in mind and that terrestrial combat hinders them. But they have addressed this issue in universe by making several models and variants better suited for the role of ground combat and able to get around without being THAT obvious.

  • @veowsaku
    @veowsaku 2 года назад

    This is the best Gundam series of the whole Gundam franchise. The physics of the mobile suits are the most real and the story line is also too real.

  • @XBloodAngelX10
    @XBloodAngelX10 2 года назад

    Just watch 08 MS TEAM my god it was an amazing experience. Haven't watch anime for a good while and this one really really made me grateful. Also awesome review!!!

  • @TheCreepypro
    @TheCreepypro 5 лет назад +1

    very nice to see this as this was the gundam that got me into gundam after this I watched everything toonami aired and I couldn't get enough glad to hear it actually holds up even if it is wonky here and there and has a bad final episode that I've never seen

  • @asarishepard8171
    @asarishepard8171 5 лет назад +1

    nothing like a good old fashioned Gundam series to get you loving anime again. Is that 0083 Stardust memory that's your favorite? Cause it happens to be my fave Gundam! :P

  • @SukiNoKoe
    @SukiNoKoe 4 года назад

    One of my favorite things about this was the ED song which was cut on Toonami but it starts with Shiro reading a book and then when it ends, he turns towards the camera looking mad about you "spying" on him and throws the book at you. xD It's really funny because it's so random.

  • @shivammane661
    @shivammane661 5 лет назад +16

    When are you going to do an episode on great teacher onizuka

  • @Jetblast01
    @Jetblast01 5 лет назад

    Fun fact: The space colony Shiro was on was gassed by Cima from Stardust Memory, which is the start of her arc. Ironic how her actions leads to what was Shiro stopping Zeon's new prototype super weapon the Apsalus. Also, Aina is one of the best girls in the Gundam series along with Mora, Sayla, and Rain.

  • @Jaebird88
    @Jaebird88 5 лет назад

    I remember liking 08th MS Team back when it aired. Surely based on these clips certain aspects haven't aged well, but I wouldn't mind rewatching it after so long.

  • @nightdevil6666
    @nightdevil6666 5 лет назад

    8thMS Team will always be my favorite. I love realism with a dash of fantasy. Oh and the Guff fight scene is fucking cash money!

  • @AvarllanTelesto
    @AvarllanTelesto 5 лет назад

    I was really excited for the Gundam series when Iron Blooded Orphans came out, but it really dropped the serious tone and darker atmosphere it had built during the first few episodes. Luckily not long after Gundam Thunderbolt came out and is easily my favourite Gundam series hands down.

  • @devildavin
    @devildavin 5 лет назад

    Fuck yea! Stardust Memory! that one has been my top favorite Gundam since i first saw it, i can't fucking remember if it was on Toonami or Adult Swim. I have a soft spot for Wing since it first got me into Gundam and it was my favorite for a long time until Stardust Memory.
    I was a big Metal gear fan so a Gundam story dealing with a Nuclear warhead lauching mobile suit that goes against some sort of treaty hit all the notes for me to love it.
    Fun fact for MGS fans. Gato's japanese voice actor was Solid Snakes voice actor.

  • @campkira
    @campkira 5 лет назад +1

    It is a good series. Still alot better than today anime.

  • @hariman7727
    @hariman7727 5 лет назад

    The battle with the enemy ace. That episode is the best of Gundam.

  • @YeagerBomb-ww3bn
    @YeagerBomb-ww3bn 5 лет назад

    Well done. Hit every nail on the head. Love the 8th team, but it did shoot itself in the foot. Wish there were more like it. Thunderbolt kind of came close. So can't wait to see your review on 0083. Good one too.

  • @jaredsamples6969
    @jaredsamples6969 5 лет назад

    14:15 I also recognize his voice from the John tucker must die multiple choice commercial. "You bet you should lie your butt off!"

  • @johnnyfountainS
    @johnnyfountainS 5 лет назад +2

    Last Resort. I watched the 08th ms team when I was in college. Then I saw last resort in 2003.

  • @domsquad4209
    @domsquad4209 5 лет назад +1

    Yuri is amazing and he's probably my favorite character after Ghinius. Darren Norris has great range.