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I love how during the faceoff of the Lokis, you can see our Loki shaking his head and looking completely exasperated, like "Oh, Gods, was I really this insufferable?" 🤣
I've argued with friends that this was the single best ending for any Marvel property. Sometimes the best endings aren't the happy ones, and the twist that Loki finally achieved his "glorious purpose", but only through giving up everything he thought he wanted... And making the audience *care* about it? So good. Thank you for doing this one.
An absolutely brilliant series that is one of THE best showcases of character development ever. But you missed my favorite line in the series: "I am not a child, for I realize something that no child does. That there is no one who is good who is entirely good, and no one who is evil who is entirely evil..."
@@curtisholsinger6023 I believe it was right after the time loop with Silf's hair. IIRC, Mobius pulls him out and scolds him for being a child, to which Loki morosely responds with that line. It's a quick moment without much emphasis put on it, but it really stuck in my mind.
One thing I'd like to add is that I loved Classic Loki and Kid Loki too. They too are different. The pain and regret Kid Loki shows when he said he killed his Thor showed the Main Loki what could have been for him. And the Classic Loki's sacrifice shouting "GLORIOUS PURPOSE" while creating an illusion of none other than Asgard in its full glory shows that even if thousands of years had passed, he still missed his home. And I'm crying just writing about it.
They both (and arguably Alligator Loki) also fully admit that they (the Loki collective) have issues and have tried time and again to fix them independently.
Original 2011 Loki: "I could have done it, Father. For you! For all of us!" A desperate plea in an attempt to emotionally manipulate those he loves into somehow justifying his dastardly deeds and never losing their love and support. Loki Variant 2024: "I know what kind of the God I want to be... For you. For all of us." A solemn, heartfelt vow to friends that he will always be thinking of how honored he is to love and protect them.
The best part of that final line, was that it was written by Hiddleston himself. They let him reflect and choose... and it's perfect. Absolutely brilliant and a true example of how well he knows the Loki character.
I'd say 2011 Loki was being truthful there. Look at it this way. He was raised in a culture that clearly holds Joutun in low regard only to discover he's Joutun. Suddenly all the issues he had with his father make sense. No matter how much he does he'll never be really loved. He's the monster that Asgardians tell their children stories about. What a joke they've made of him. How they must have laughed when he tried to do right by them.
Tom Hiddleston is such a fan-fkn-tastic actor. The scene where Loki asks "Without them, where do I belong" had me physically hurting in my chest. As a long term abuse survivor, I'm very comfortable with keeping people out of my life. But once I got married, and after my daughter was born, I finally learned what it means to be a part of loving relationships. It is so much better than safety of isolation.
I'm in that shutting people out phase after a DV situation. Don't know if I will ever get to where you are BUT for the first time in my life I'm OK with being alone instead of longing to be with somebody. And that by is HUGE progress for me all by itself.
every time Loki sits on down and essentially becomes Yggdrasil, i get chills, because one of his more iconic likes is " i an burdened with glorious purpose" and that scene solidified that statement, because he came to understand it. all hail, god of stories, Loki odinson.
I do love the fact that Loki is the only one who can fix this problem. Him being a Loki, someone who always loses, makes him the only person who can possibly fix an impossible problem. Any other superhero would fail, because they don't have the dedication to repeat the same loss for thousands of years. The Avengers lost once in End Game and pretty much gave up. Hell, Thor lost and he nearly ate himself to death. A superhero would try and find a different solution, but the sacred timeline is a problem that has no alternate solution. The instant the Loom is destroyed, all of the timelines instantly start to die. Only a supervillain that always loses, would be crazy enough to dedicate thousands of years repeating the same doomed situation to find a solution.
Maaan I wish you guys talked about his thousands of years repeating and retrying everything and learning everything there is to learn about physics… the sacrifices he made are so remarkable. The dedication and the sheer amount of perseverance he demonstrates is absolutely shattering
A small little detail I love about Loki is how he always talks about how he’s “BURDENED with glorious purpose”, not blessed by it, even before he had realized that purpose. When you think about it, being burdened with purpose is quite similar to “With great power comes great responsibility.”
When the first episode of Loki came out, and Loki said he only hurt people because he had to, and that it was a cruel trick conjured by the weak to inspire fear, I saw little me explaining why she spent her childhood angry and lashing out at her siblings and at last I understood why: not only was I trying to control the situation but I lashed out before they could do it to me, and I was trying to protect myself. And I no longer saw myself as the villain problem child.
We all want to be in control of our own situations. It's s9 easy to lash out, or, "burn it to the ground". It helps us feel righteous and validated. I'm so glad you were able to see the other side and be able to start the healing process. The problem with sibling wars is that all of the siblings want some semblance of control. And that may step on the other siblings' control. It's a hard balance. Sending you internet hugs.
I LOVED this show. One of my very favorite uses of Owen Wilson of all time. He's so low-key (heh) and genuine. And Tom Hiddelston takes his journey *so* beautifully.
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Owen Wilson saying the "I think I'll sit here, let time go by" (paraphrased) line is one of my favorites in the show because of how he delivered it. It's such a beautiful line. I'm so used to seeing Owen in a comedic role that it was nice to see him in a deeper role with more purpose.
13:03 I have a theory as to why Sylvie was pruned. She was a hero at heart from the beginning. That's why Kang picked her, bc he knew she would be determined enough to get the main Loki variant to him. If you look at the tiny bit we see of young Sylvie, she's playing with Valkyrie toys at the start and we also hear that Thor wanted to be a Valkyrie growing up bc of their status as honored warriors. The next thing is when she's being brought through the tva line, she doesn't fight until she sees someone else being roughed up by the tva then she starts to struggle and call for someone to help Him. Kang took the best Loki and corrupted her in order to get her to lead another Loki to him. Kang didn't stop knowing what was going to happen until after Loki and Sylvie reached the end of time.
I think her nexus event was being told she was adopted from an early age. She never got trapped into a cycle of competing with Thor for the throne, but never seemingly measuring up, only to find out after an entire lifetime of trying that it was never in the cards due to being adopted. Instead, she was free from that cycle and got to figure herself out and go in a different direction. She's a girl, she wants to be a valkyrie, etc. That made her a very, very different person from the sacred timeline Loki, or most Lokis in general. It's also an indictment on Odin and Freya that an iteration of Loki like Sylvie is so incredibly rare, imo.
@emilymarriott5927 I feel like our theories are just the cause and effect of the same instance, she's heroic bc she wasn't lied to, so she didn't have that anger at first, she didn't feel like she didn't belong so she wasn't a trickster. And on the last part I very much agree, the fact that such seemingly small lie made such a massive change in them really shows how that grain of negativity grew over the 1500~ years Loki was growing up. And the tva snatching Sylvie up created that negativity in her almost artificially as in it never would've happened if she had been left alone
The reason _any_ of them got pruned was (purportedly) the deviations from the set route ‘somehow’ all result in [any number] of Kang variants spawning into existence. Not necessarily tied _directly_ to the individual that gets targeted-then-pruned, but tangentially, the actions/intents of individuals being scaled out _wildly_ for odds of reaching the particular inevitability.
@alecLogan in all honestly, the reason Kang picked her is bc he picked her and wrote her just how he wanted, just like prime variant Loki. He cultivated them to make them fight over what to do at the end of time and about him. I think his point was to take a Loki who was good from the start and corrupt her, and take a Loki who was rotten at the start and redeem him, let them fight it out and let that settle the cosmic balance. Which I think is to say Loki may be one to experience extremes, and that drew Kang to them. Loki wanted total subjugation (initially) and Sylvie wanted unfettered freedom. It's like Kang made a perfect yin Yang out of Loki and told them to fight for dominance. But they only achieve the end goal by letting their ideas coincide.
One of the moments that stood out to me was when he found all the infinity stones in a desk drawer. Then told they are used as paper weights with how many there are. Just his face realizing all those choices he made to get what was supposed to be these all powerful items actually mean nothing in the bigger outside picture.
I didn't think of Loki's fate to be a reward, so to speak. I thought it was the version of his punishment for killing Balder in norse mythology, chained to a rock and in pain for eternity. A destiny that, in this version, he chose for himself to save the multiverse.
The ending to Loki had my jaw on the floor. It's just an absolutely perfect ending. Perhaps the only thing they could do with this is to have Thor know that a version of his brother became the greatest hero of all. These brothers have been through a lot, and even though they cannot literally be together, there is closure that they have both become their best selves.
Loki was hands down my favorite live action Marvel project. The Laughs, the cries, but especially Tom Hiddelson’s and Owen Wilson’s acting paired with the writing of this masterpiece, and don’t even get me started with the amazing score from Natalie Holt. 💚💚💚
For the past three years, loki had been a comfort character of mine. As he progressed on his journey to healing, I went through a very similar emotional journey in my own life. He helped me through a lot of it. Some of the same issues he dealt with, I dealt with too. He overcame them, and so did I. I will forever be grateful I found this show, and this character when I did. God bless Tom Hiddleston.
"Most purpose is more burden than glory, and trust me, you never want to he the guy that avoids it because you can't live with the burden." "How do you live with it?" "Scar tissue."
10:27 A small thing, but I appreciated that you said “screaming like a cowardly child” rather than “screaming like a girl” or similar iterations. I’m probably going to get murdered in the comments, but I appreciate the lack of sexism, especially when it shows up in small comments like this.
I think the term is used more so in the way that girls scream more so than it being derogatory. All terms of phrase, stereotypes, etc come from a source of reality.
"Any number of actors will tell you that playing the villian is so much fun." As a college student, 100% agree! I've had a blast acting as a part of The White Witch's Army in our student directed play Lion, Witch, and The Wordrobe!
Villains can be so memorable. Disney had some great ones, Hunchback of Notre Dame was one of my favorite movies growing up and I really love Frollo as a villain now that I'm adult and can appreciate it. He's one of the villains that was given ways to redeem himself and chose not to, and it's so amazing how well they did it.
Going into the Loki series, I already loved Tom Hiddleston's Loki, especially with the place that Ragnarok brought him to, but more broadly... seeing his whole arc. The Loki series... especially season 2 took him from being a character that I really loved to... genuinely being my favorite character in the MCU. I... still don't know if I would call him a "hero" exactly, but he is my favorite character, and I genuinely don't see him losing that status. He has such a powerful arc through all of this, and I love the story behind his final line, where they were getting ready to film that moment, and he took a jog around the back lot when it hit him. He came back and told the director, and... man, it gets me every time.
Really good post. I would say that Loki fully earned the hero title by the very end of S2 since he sacrificed his freedom so the others have time to find the Kang variants. If it wasn't for that, the Loom explodes and the multiverse is good as dead. No more MCU. With the upcoming new direction of Dr. Doom, that means that we'll be seeing God Loki again in the not too distant future. Which means, it will give us a chance to fully see him use his powers to save more people (of whatever is left of the universe), while helping the Avengers fight against Doom.
"Glorious Purpose is more burden than glory." What Mobius says in their final conversation that helps Loki realize what he needs to do is so fitting. Heroism and leadership requires sacrificing your own desires for the greater good. We've seen it time and again in movies and TV including in the MCU. All Loki ever wanted was to not be alone. To feel accepted and be apart of a community of people that truly love him. He bolstered about being a God and a King for most of his life. And in the end, even though he wanted to reject the responsibility, he at last took the ultimate throne of power by no means for himself, but for the sake of everyone else. He finally earned his immortality and the adulation of others, only for him to rule in silence and total seclusion away from all other beings in the universe. Most people never knowing what he's done/is dojng to keep then alive and well. It's tragic. It's sad. It's even heartbreaking. But also a beautiful tale of self-acceptance, vulnerability, selflessness, and finding peace in taking a path that leads to being the best verison of one's self.
7:28 "So, let's talk about what you want, how you've been going about getting it - how's that working for you?" Cut to the Hulk smashing Loki into the concrete over and over 😂 Nice one!
"What you want" - shows Thor & Loki as brothers "how you've been going about getting it" - attempting to take over NYC "How that's working for you?" - smashed up by the Hulk
the second loki season hit hard for me. the episodes with everything dissolving and loki trying to grab his five or six people and hold on was heartbreaking. but loki as the god of stories and the core of yggdrasil felt cathartic and fulfilling for the character and i loved the ending despite crying through most of it 😂😭
I really enjoy wheb alan explains how cool a particular set or camera angle is and why. Telling us how the decision to do it that way affects the watcher in ways we didnt realize is just very neat. Makes me realize how much of movie making is psychology.
Genuinely one of the best character arcs I've ever seen. The writing on those last couple of episodes. Possibly the only time I've seen the villian to hero journey without the character being "nerfed" in the process.
that Yddrasil shot at the end of it gave me so many chills. I was already so frail from this series but seeing Loki honoring his heritage with this simple choice was so powerful!
2:22 footnote: since this is the TVA and they can see all the timelines, this would have been a really good spot for Mobius to dig Loki with clips of Phil Coulson (Son of Coul) from Agents of Shield. "But did you?"
It makes me sad that AOS is so underappreciated. I never see it mentioned in anything about the MCU or Disney shows. I think it's some of the best Marvel content out there, because we get to see the characters change and grow over 7 seasons.
@@saena971 especially since, based on the events of Loki season 2, the Agents of Shield timeline(s) now *have* to exist somewhere within Yggdrasil, with Loki, God of Stories at it's heart.
No one mention this but I love how Tom Hiddleston added literary reference: "we die with the dying, we are born with the dead" T.S. Eliot and "I wasted time and now doth times waste me" Shakespeare, it really shows the love for his character and his will to elevate the quality of the second season
Two times I jumped with joy in the last 30 minutes - first: I saw this "Loki Psychology of a Hero" video, second: You're doing a SYLVIE video!! ❤️🔥 god I was sooo happy when I heard that. I love that woman and I love the relationship between them. I also love Mobius and the three of them together as the most badass "Time-travelling buddies" You covered many great scenes here, the thing I missed was the phenomenal debate and dilemma between Loki and Sylvie in S1E6 in the citadel (but maybe you'll cover this in your Sylvie episode? Fingers crossed). This whole show had so many great therapy scenes and I just love, love, love how Loki went from "Freedom is a lie" to "I give the whole multiverse its freedom back" and how Sylvie and Mobius helped him to truly find himself. The ending was bittersweet but at the same time one of the most beautiful things I ever saw in a movie or series. Part of me agrees with you, that it would be a shame to ruin that ending by bringing him back rash and casually..but part of me thinks that I want him to reunite with Thor (and Sylvie and Mobius). But we'll see 🙏 and in the meantime - what a great series and what a great tribute to it! Thank you 💚
YES!! The video I have been waiting for!!! To be honest I was very sour and a bit disappointed with Loki’s first psychology video, because while I understood it… I didn’t feel like it did the character justice. Loki fans have been passionately defending and upholding the character (quite literally, if the stories that he was only supposed to appear in Thor 1 and Avengers are to be believed) for many many years. Sure, I think the fandom definitely took some creative liberties but for us to have the Loki show (which I’m so glad you agree is a freaking masterpiece!) delve deeper into his character was so awesome! I’m just really chuffed that you guys made this video and addressed both the complex journey that Loki has taken and the incredible quality and nuance of this show :) The wait was so worth it
Yes exactly! Kenneth Branagh's Loki and Taika Waititi's Loki are two very different characters, and for the first video (and the show, and therefore this video) to make sense, you have to believe Ragnarok's joke Loki is the real one, which. He's not why we like the character. We like the complex character of the first movie. Literally I've been trying to figure out how to describe my feelings on this video, spent an hour typing and deleting a comment, and I think you described it perfectly. A little sour on the first video. (Like. Which is it? Narcissism, or insecurity? If your insecurity drives you to wear a mask of being better than everyone, is that narcissism?)
I was just watching a clip of LOKI today… the scene where he sees how his life goes and dies, such a wonderful and sad scene. Love the development of his character through the MCU. He’s one of my favourite characters because of it. 💚🌌
I love how the show recontextualize the prior Loki appearances,. Most people only remember the 2012 Avengers version which was in an extremely broken-insecure state (+ apparently he was mind-controlled by the stone) and assumed Loki was always like that. Which he is not. "Meh Loki used to be a badass psychopath" Yet the movie portrayal could also be interpreted as just a ridiculously cringe kid throwing a tantrum. I think it's also the reason why s2 was more appreciated, cuz it was more in line with the "bipolar" playful-dangerous side of Loki while bringing very iconic scenes with his abilities
stop i started jumping up and down when i saw this 😭 not only do i get so excited for any new video from my internet dads, but i loveee loki. so excited for another episode on him
Thank you for this! There is no such thing as enough LOKI content. ^^ My favorite thing about the series is the dynamic between Loki and Mobius. Mobius seems the first person Loki comes across, who sees right through his attitude. The hair flip compilation at the end! 🤣🤣🤣
oh man, I've been hoping for you to make an episode about the Loki series ever since I've finished the second season... Loki means so much to me as a character and you displayed his arc so so well! Thank you!!
One of my favorite scenes in the series is one where Loki isn't even on screen, after his sacrifice where he sits on the throne the song "Purpose is Glorious" plays and shows how many people were moved and affected by his decision, it makes his sacrifice hit much harder
As a little kid who found Loki more than a decade ago and related to him, seeing his character arc completing like this is so bittersweet. Ohhh what a perfect end but also I’m in pain.
I've been waiting patiently for the variant Loki to hopefully get his own video. This show did so much for multiple characters in only 2 seasons that tons of shows can't do in 10. Definitely on my top 5 of shows, and idk how many times I've rewatched it.
I agree with Jonathan's take on other people inhibiting your growth and change (deliberately or not). Especially if they haven't seen you for an extended period. It takes a long time to help them realize the person you were then isn't who you are now.
Loki was handled the best way possible. Ended in the best way possible. I couldn't have asked for more from the cast and crew. Chef's kiss. 10/10. A+. Will recommend.
This is such a great video. Great breakdown. Great commentary. Also, great editing? 23:00 onward was so perfect with the clips chosen! Thank you for revisiting this series.
Who better to tend to the branches of time than the god of chaos! Life is chaos and yet we fear it means losing control. Love this episode and love the show! It was beautifully written and executed ❤❤❤
The scene in the first Thor movie where Odin is going on about how "one of you will be king" hits so much different and hurts so much more when you realize that Loki was NEVER in line for the throne and Odin was actually gaslighting Loki his whole life.
This was so good. Loki was probably my favorite of the Marvel D+ series that I've watched. I love Loki's progression over the various MCU pieces that he's been in from villain to anti-hero to legitimate hero. So good.
I was so sad to find out you did psychology of a villain for Loki without the show. And now you covered the rest of his character with the show. Thank you so much, this made me so happy!
@ I am not surprised. When writing a redemption storyarc we should ask ourselves not just how to redeem the villain, but whom they are besides their villany.
9:16 I love that “about scene”! So many Lokis played by different actors but all having the heart of the Loki we have gotten to know and love! There can never be “too much” Loki lol!
Something I heard about what it means to be a good leader is someone who helps others be the best they can be. Loki n giving everyone freedom to be better than the sacred time line said they shouldn't be is really telling in how Loki grew into the role of a true leader.
Istg from the moment I saw Loki's first appearance I knew I would love him because of how complex he is. Seeing his journey in the Loki series made me love him even harder and it's all thanks to Tom Hiddleston's performance along with the glorious writing from the team
The fact that Loki is one of my favorite entities may or may not have anything to do with it, but imo, how they handled him makes up for everything they got wrong about Norse mythology. And the way you guys broke it down was just... incredibly meaningful for me. You are both definitely fulfilling your glorious purpose.
Tom Hiddleston deserves an award for his role as Loki. Loki the serious is a masterpiece my husband and I loved it. It's probably our favorite marvel series they've made. Right up there with Hawkeye and Daredevil.
This video is timely as heck. We are ALL burdened with glorious purpose, and we can save the world if we can be courageous enough to be vulnerable, act in alignment with our values, and embrace/protect our communities.
I know he says “I’m a narcissist” but I’ve seen some very spot on breakdowns about the possibility of bpd. And as someone with BPD… I can see it (which is probably why I’m drawn to characters like this.) The deep seated fear of being alone, being abandoned. Doing everything possible to not be abandoned, and that causing it to happen anyway. The black and white thinking, the anger blowouts. These don’t go away through the show but they are tempered, focused. And the thing is, BPD has such a bad reputation among therapists even, but if we are aware of why we do what we do, it can be as much a vehicle for altruism and connection and heroism as it can be villainy, of being the bad guy. I was never interested in Marvel before this show. Still not interested in much of it. But the existential quandaries, the personal growth, tackling Big Questions through characters who feel small and vulnerable… so well done. As you can see from my icon it made an impression 😂
i once, many years ago, wrote an entire essay about Loki, and how i identified with him and just tragic his character truly is. i stand by it even now and gods do i adore what the show did for him, even as i weep for his fate. (though season 3 gonna really tell whats up) he is such an important character to me and has stood, with deadpool, as one of my greatest comfort characters simply bc they are just so tortured (frequently by their own mind) but still do the best they can do do whats right in the end. (even after making terrible mistakes.) i too have made terrible mistakes and have tried as hard as i can to move past them into being a better person in the end. tldr, i have never clicked a link so fast and i havent even watched it yet and gods im already in tears.
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The only thing I want from Marvel with Loki is for Thor to give him a hug while he's on his throne
YES!
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That comic strip of this Loki variant going to see Thor who's seen everyone and everything disappear needs to be canon.
You can't believe how often i think of/pray for this
AAAAAAAAA 😭😭😭
I love that Loki has featured on Villain therapy AND psychology of a hero... truly showing the whole journey
I love how during the faceoff of the Lokis, you can see our Loki shaking his head and looking completely exasperated, like "Oh, Gods, was I really this insufferable?" 🤣
It's such a great piece of acting!
Bro had that mirror giving different angles, and he didn't like any of them!
@@Crowelephant exactly it's a case of looking in the mirror to try and capture your good side only to find out there aren't any
Our Loki was like “these motherfuckers… 😞”
It really solidified his realisation of “oh, so this is why Thor and others found me insufferable…”
I've argued with friends that this was the single best ending for any Marvel property. Sometimes the best endings aren't the happy ones, and the twist that Loki finally achieved his "glorious purpose", but only through giving up everything he thought he wanted... And making the audience *care* about it? So good.
Thank you for doing this one.
An absolutely brilliant series that is one of THE best showcases of character development ever. But you missed my favorite line in the series: "I am not a child, for I realize something that no child does. That there is no one who is good who is entirely good, and no one who is evil who is entirely evil..."
Blew it! That is a great line.
HOW THE HELL DID K FORGET SUCH A PERFECT LINE?!
I mean, I forgot that line. Where does Loki say it?
False. There is evil in the world which is entirely evil. Multiple of those actually.
@@curtisholsinger6023 I believe it was right after the time loop with Silf's hair. IIRC, Mobius pulls him out and scolds him for being a child, to which Loki morosely responds with that line. It's a quick moment without much emphasis put on it, but it really stuck in my mind.
One thing I'd like to add is that I loved Classic Loki and Kid Loki too. They too are different. The pain and regret Kid Loki shows when he said he killed his Thor showed the Main Loki what could have been for him. And the Classic Loki's sacrifice shouting "GLORIOUS PURPOSE" while creating an illusion of none other than Asgard in its full glory shows that even if thousands of years had passed, he still missed his home. And I'm crying just writing about it.
They both (and arguably Alligator Loki) also fully admit that they (the Loki collective) have issues and have tried time and again to fix them independently.
B****, I never even watched the show, and you got ME misty eyed just imagining it! 😂
Original 2011 Loki: "I could have done it, Father. For you! For all of us!" A desperate plea in an attempt to emotionally manipulate those he loves into somehow justifying his dastardly deeds and never losing their love and support.
Loki Variant 2024: "I know what kind of the God I want to be... For you. For all of us." A solemn, heartfelt vow to friends that he will always be thinking of how honored he is to love and protect them.
A beautiful redemption arc. His and Zuko's are the best I've seen.
The best part of that final line, was that it was written by Hiddleston himself. They let him reflect and choose... and it's perfect. Absolutely brilliant and a true example of how well he knows the Loki character.
I'd say 2011 Loki was being truthful there. Look at it this way. He was raised in a culture that clearly holds Joutun in low regard only to discover he's Joutun. Suddenly all the issues he had with his father make sense. No matter how much he does he'll never be really loved. He's the monster that Asgardians tell their children stories about. What a joke they've made of him. How they must have laughed when he tried to do right by them.
Tom Hiddleston is such a fan-fkn-tastic actor. The scene where Loki asks "Without them, where do I belong" had me physically hurting in my chest.
As a long term abuse survivor, I'm very comfortable with keeping people out of my life. But once I got married, and after my daughter was born, I finally learned what it means to be a part of loving relationships. It is so much better than safety of isolation.
Thank you for sharing this about yourself :) And yes, Hiddleston ftw!
I'm in that shutting people out phase after a DV situation. Don't know if I will ever get to where you are BUT for the first time in my life I'm OK with being alone instead of longing to be with somebody. And that by is HUGE progress for me all by itself.
every time Loki sits on down and essentially becomes Yggdrasil, i get chills, because one of his more iconic likes is " i an burdened with glorious purpose" and that scene solidified that statement, because he came to understand it.
all hail, god of stories, Loki odinson.
Because it truly is a burden, he's Atlas, holding the world on his shoulders for eternity.
Tom Hiddleston is so good at playing a complex character. Loki’s arc is so underrated.
I do love the fact that Loki is the only one who can fix this problem. Him being a Loki, someone who always loses, makes him the only person who can possibly fix an impossible problem. Any other superhero would fail, because they don't have the dedication to repeat the same loss for thousands of years. The Avengers lost once in End Game and pretty much gave up. Hell, Thor lost and he nearly ate himself to death. A superhero would try and find a different solution, but the sacred timeline is a problem that has no alternate solution. The instant the Loom is destroyed, all of the timelines instantly start to die. Only a supervillain that always loses, would be crazy enough to dedicate thousands of years repeating the same doomed situation to find a solution.
This is a really interesting point!
I never considered that, this is very insightful!
Maaan I wish you guys talked about his thousands of years repeating and retrying everything and learning everything there is to learn about physics… the sacrifices he made are so remarkable. The dedication and the sheer amount of perseverance he demonstrates is absolutely shattering
i think this series is the good version of what the flash movie tried to do with the flashpoint arc
Very Groundhog Day reminiscent - Loki had his own version of Bill Murray’s Punxatawny Purgatory
"Best episode of Doctor Who Marvel ever made"
Also explains why the void was filled with Lokis . They’re survivors and don’t give up . Failure doesn’t discourage them
Could easily have been like Professor Paradox, went insane and after getting tired of insanity recentered on understanding
A small little detail I love about Loki is how he always talks about how he’s “BURDENED with glorious purpose”, not blessed by it, even before he had realized that purpose. When you think about it, being burdened with purpose is quite similar to “With great power comes great responsibility.”
The same sentiment , just written differently !!
I truly think the fan's love for Loki is justified. He's not a villian, more of an antihero. So caring and deep and actually quite powerful.
He's a villain who had a real and believable redemption arc vs most other 'redemptions' that are an insult to our intelligence.
@@WalkerRileyMC *cough* Iron Man & Xavier in comics
*cough*
More like an antivillian
I've been saying this for years
When the first episode of Loki came out, and Loki said he only hurt people because he had to, and that it was a cruel trick conjured by the weak to inspire fear, I saw little me explaining why she spent her childhood angry and lashing out at her siblings and at last I understood why: not only was I trying to control the situation but I lashed out before they could do it to me, and I was trying to protect myself. And I no longer saw myself as the villain problem child.
We all want to be in control of our own situations. It's s9 easy to lash out, or, "burn it to the ground". It helps us feel righteous and validated.
I'm so glad you were able to see the other side and be able to start the healing process.
The problem with sibling wars is that all of the siblings want some semblance of control. And that may step on the other siblings' control. It's a hard balance. Sending you internet hugs.
"We are gods" with the tone and everything really was the shortest version of "With great power comes great responsibility"
I LOVED this show. One of my very favorite uses of Owen Wilson of all time. He's so low-key (heh) and genuine. And Tom Hiddelston takes his journey *so* beautifully.
Shameless self-plug, but we've got a Patreon-exclusive episode on Owen Wilson's Mobius that goes live today! My favorite role of his as well :) www.patreon.com/c/CinemaTherapy
Yes! I love that Owen Wilson was given a chance to truly act. He is absolutely BRILLIANT in this 👏.
@@CinemaTherapyShow It's your channel, by all means plug.
@SaucyJTD Couldn't agree more. He was fantastic.
Owen Wilson saying the "I think I'll sit here, let time go by" (paraphrased) line is one of my favorites in the show because of how he delivered it. It's such a beautiful line. I'm so used to seeing Owen in a comedic role that it was nice to see him in a deeper role with more purpose.
Loki seeing all the variants betraying each other he totally has a look like. “Man, I’ve got issues.”
13:03 I have a theory as to why Sylvie was pruned. She was a hero at heart from the beginning. That's why Kang picked her, bc he knew she would be determined enough to get the main Loki variant to him. If you look at the tiny bit we see of young Sylvie, she's playing with Valkyrie toys at the start and we also hear that Thor wanted to be a Valkyrie growing up bc of their status as honored warriors. The next thing is when she's being brought through the tva line, she doesn't fight until she sees someone else being roughed up by the tva then she starts to struggle and call for someone to help Him. Kang took the best Loki and corrupted her in order to get her to lead another Loki to him. Kang didn't stop knowing what was going to happen until after Loki and Sylvie reached the end of time.
I think her nexus event was being told she was adopted from an early age. She never got trapped into a cycle of competing with Thor for the throne, but never seemingly measuring up, only to find out after an entire lifetime of trying that it was never in the cards due to being adopted. Instead, she was free from that cycle and got to figure herself out and go in a different direction. She's a girl, she wants to be a valkyrie, etc. That made her a very, very different person from the sacred timeline Loki, or most Lokis in general.
It's also an indictment on Odin and Freya that an iteration of Loki like Sylvie is so incredibly rare, imo.
@emilymarriott5927 I feel like our theories are just the cause and effect of the same instance, she's heroic bc she wasn't lied to, so she didn't have that anger at first, she didn't feel like she didn't belong so she wasn't a trickster.
And on the last part I very much agree, the fact that such seemingly small lie made such a massive change in them really shows how that grain of negativity grew over the 1500~ years Loki was growing up. And the tva snatching Sylvie up created that negativity in her almost artificially as in it never would've happened if she had been left alone
@@richardchisenhall387 Pretty much, yeah.
The reason _any_ of them got pruned was (purportedly) the deviations from the set route ‘somehow’ all result in [any number] of Kang variants spawning into existence. Not necessarily tied _directly_ to the individual that gets targeted-then-pruned, but tangentially, the actions/intents of individuals being scaled out _wildly_ for odds of reaching the particular inevitability.
@alecLogan in all honestly, the reason Kang picked her is bc he picked her and wrote her just how he wanted, just like prime variant Loki. He cultivated them to make them fight over what to do at the end of time and about him. I think his point was to take a Loki who was good from the start and corrupt her, and take a Loki who was rotten at the start and redeem him, let them fight it out and let that settle the cosmic balance. Which I think is to say Loki may be one to experience extremes, and that drew Kang to them. Loki wanted total subjugation (initially) and Sylvie wanted unfettered freedom. It's like Kang made a perfect yin Yang out of Loki and told them to fight for dominance. But they only achieve the end goal by letting their ideas coincide.
One of the moments that stood out to me was when he found all the infinity stones in a desk drawer. Then told they are used as paper weights with how many there are.
Just his face realizing all those choices he made to get what was supposed to be these all powerful items actually mean nothing in the bigger outside picture.
I didn't think of Loki's fate to be a reward, so to speak. I thought it was the version of his punishment for killing Balder in norse mythology, chained to a rock and in pain for eternity. A destiny that, in this version, he chose for himself to save the multiverse.
yesssssssssss i made that connection too.
I was just sifting through the channel a week ago, hoping to find a video on Loki. This is like an answer to my prayers
We also have an episode on his arc in the MCU movies :) ruclips.net/video/cubUtEjhNfc/видео.html
@@CinemaTherapyShow y'all have no idea how many times I scanned all your videos looking for this specific one.
Did NOT disappoint.
The ending to Loki had my jaw on the floor. It's just an absolutely perfect ending. Perhaps the only thing they could do with this is to have Thor know that a version of his brother became the greatest hero of all. These brothers have been through a lot, and even though they cannot literally be together, there is closure that they have both become their best selves.
Loki was hands down my favorite live action Marvel project. The Laughs, the cries, but especially Tom Hiddelson’s and Owen Wilson’s acting paired with the writing of this masterpiece, and don’t even get me started with the amazing score from Natalie Holt. 💚💚💚
For the past three years, loki had been a comfort character of mine. As he progressed on his journey to healing, I went through a very similar emotional journey in my own life. He helped me through a lot of it. Some of the same issues he dealt with, I dealt with too. He overcame them, and so did I. I will forever be grateful I found this show, and this character when I did. God bless Tom Hiddleston.
"Most purpose is more burden than glory, and trust me, you never want to he the guy that avoids it because you can't live with the burden."
"How do you live with it?"
"Scar tissue."
Who said that first one again, when?
@@GummyCalico Mobius, Loki, Mobius
What did he mean by scar tissue?
@@tex3781 enduring the pain of the burden no matter how uncomfortable or painful it may be so in the end all it does is leave you with scar tissue
10:27 A small thing, but I appreciated that you said “screaming like a cowardly child” rather than “screaming like a girl” or similar iterations. I’m probably going to get murdered in the comments, but I appreciate the lack of sexism, especially when it shows up in small comments like this.
I was thinking "Screaming like a banshee". And in Marvel, Banshee is a male mutant 😊
I appreciated it too. I'm so tired of my gender being used as a source of shame.
As an uncle of 7 i started realizing that it shouldn’t be “scream like a little girl” because holy shit boy scream just as much and just as loudly
I think the term is used more so in the way that girls scream more so than it being derogatory. All terms of phrase, stereotypes, etc come from a source of reality.
I'm a Cinema Therapy fan and I am burdened with glorious entertainment 💚😆
Let us add to your burdens!
"Any number of actors will tell you that playing the villian is so much fun." As a college student, 100% agree! I've had a blast acting as a part of The White Witch's Army in our student directed play Lion, Witch, and The Wordrobe!
Villains can be so memorable. Disney had some great ones, Hunchback of Notre Dame was one of my favorite movies growing up and I really love Frollo as a villain now that I'm adult and can appreciate it. He's one of the villains that was given ways to redeem himself and chose not to, and it's so amazing how well they did it.
Going into the Loki series, I already loved Tom Hiddleston's Loki, especially with the place that Ragnarok brought him to, but more broadly... seeing his whole arc. The Loki series... especially season 2 took him from being a character that I really loved to... genuinely being my favorite character in the MCU. I... still don't know if I would call him a "hero" exactly, but he is my favorite character, and I genuinely don't see him losing that status. He has such a powerful arc through all of this, and I love the story behind his final line, where they were getting ready to film that moment, and he took a jog around the back lot when it hit him. He came back and told the director, and... man, it gets me every time.
Really good post. I would say that Loki fully earned the hero title by the very end of S2 since he sacrificed his freedom so the others have time to find the Kang variants. If it wasn't for that, the Loom explodes and the multiverse is good as dead. No more MCU. With the upcoming new direction of Dr. Doom, that means that we'll be seeing God Loki again in the not too distant future. Which means, it will give us a chance to fully see him use his powers to save more people (of whatever is left of the universe), while helping the Avengers fight against Doom.
"Glorious Purpose is more burden than glory." What Mobius says in their final conversation that helps Loki realize what he needs to do is so fitting. Heroism and leadership requires sacrificing your own desires for the greater good. We've seen it time and again in movies and TV including in the MCU.
All Loki ever wanted was to not be alone. To feel accepted and be apart of a community of people that truly love him. He bolstered about being a God and a King for most of his life. And in the end, even though he wanted to reject the responsibility, he at last took the ultimate throne of power by no means for himself, but for the sake of everyone else.
He finally earned his immortality and the adulation of others, only for him to rule in silence and total seclusion away from all other beings in the universe. Most people never knowing what he's done/is dojng to keep then alive and well.
It's tragic. It's sad. It's even heartbreaking. But also a beautiful tale of self-acceptance, vulnerability, selflessness, and finding peace in taking a path that leads to being the best verison of one's self.
7:28 "So, let's talk about what you want, how you've been going about getting it - how's that working for you?" Cut to the Hulk smashing Loki into the concrete over and over 😂 Nice one!
"What you want" - shows Thor & Loki as brothers
"how you've been going about getting it" - attempting to take over NYC
"How that's working for you?" - smashed up by the Hulk
These editors are geniuses. :D
the second loki season hit hard for me. the episodes with everything dissolving and loki trying to grab his five or six people and hold on was heartbreaking. but loki as the god of stories and the core of yggdrasil felt cathartic and fulfilling for the character and i loved the ending despite crying through most of it 😂😭
props to the editor, that opening segment is awesome!
Our editors are the best!
YES! Thank you for doing this! That show cemented Loki as, in my opinion, the best "villain" in the MCU.
SO complex 💚.
You're welcome! Thanks for watching!
I would even argue quite possibly the best character, period, in the MCU.
@@Aeras89 i mean there really isn't another MCU character who's had like a decade+ worth of character development so I very much agree.
@@potatofarmergyro1720 Iron Man. Thor.
I really enjoy wheb alan explains how cool a particular set or camera angle is and why. Telling us how the decision to do it that way affects the watcher in ways we didnt realize is just very neat. Makes me realize how much of movie making is psychology.
This! Alan's insights are awesome 🤘.
I loved this ending for Loki, I’m so glad you covered this. I hope you cover Loki and Mobius’s relationship in the future!
In the episode and linked in the description, we link to a Patreon-exclusive Mobius episode that dives into their relationship a bit. :)
Genuinely one of the best character arcs I've ever seen. The writing on those last couple of episodes. Possibly the only time I've seen the villian to hero journey without the character being "nerfed" in the process.
Mobius picking apart Loki was fantastic. Both Tom Hiddleston and Owen Wilson killed it at this.
Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU for the hair flip montage. You know not just what the fans want, but what they need 😂❤ Love your channel guys!
Full kudos to the editor there. Thanks for watching!
that Yddrasil shot at the end of it gave me so many chills. I was already so frail from this series but seeing Loki honoring his heritage with this simple choice was so powerful!
12:27 I absolutely adore how alligator Loki waddles after them through the grass OMG XD
I hadn't noticed😂 that is so funny!
My heart melted when I saw "Psychology of a HERO" ❤❤
RIGHT?! I was scrolling through my feed and instantly stopped everything when I saw that.
Me: *blinks* what......FOR REAL?!!!!!!
You didn't have to do Loki/Hiddleston so dirty after the credits xD
#longhairstruggles 😂
But it's so silly!
THIS IS THE ONE I’VE BEEN WAITING FOR!!!!!
WOOOO!
2:22 footnote: since this is the TVA and they can see all the timelines, this would have been a really good spot for Mobius to dig Loki with clips of Phil Coulson (Son of Coul) from Agents of Shield. "But did you?"
It makes me sad that AOS is so underappreciated. I never see it mentioned in anything about the MCU or Disney shows. I think it's some of the best Marvel content out there, because we get to see the characters change and grow over 7 seasons.
@@saena971 especially since, based on the events of Loki season 2, the Agents of Shield timeline(s) now *have* to exist somewhere within Yggdrasil, with Loki, God of Stories at it's heart.
No one mention this but I love how Tom Hiddleston added literary reference: "we die with the dying, we are born with the dead" T.S. Eliot and "I wasted time and now doth times waste me" Shakespeare, it really shows the love for his character and his will to elevate the quality of the second season
Loki had the best arc in the MCU. And yes, Marvel should never touch him again. This is just right.
I don't want them to touch a Hiddleston Loki or an adult Loki. But I would absolutely watch Kid and Lokigator go on adventures and grow up.
“How do I know in your final moments you won’t betray me?”
You won’t. It’s a leap of faith.
The timing is impeccable. I just made my friends binge loki season 1 & 2 yesterday with me and now I got a cinema therapy video about Loki.
I loved this version of Loki's character arc, and I agree it had such a good ending to it that it doesn't need more
Two times I jumped with joy in the last 30 minutes - first: I saw this "Loki Psychology of a Hero" video, second: You're doing a SYLVIE video!! ❤️🔥 god I was sooo happy when I heard that. I love that woman and I love the relationship between them. I also love Mobius and the three of them together as the most badass "Time-travelling buddies" You covered many great scenes here, the thing I missed was the phenomenal debate and dilemma between Loki and Sylvie in S1E6 in the citadel (but maybe you'll cover this in your Sylvie episode? Fingers crossed). This whole show had so many great therapy scenes and I just love, love, love how Loki went from "Freedom is a lie" to "I give the whole multiverse its freedom back" and how Sylvie and Mobius helped him to truly find himself. The ending was bittersweet but at the same time one of the most beautiful things I ever saw in a movie or series. Part of me agrees with you, that it would be a shame to ruin that ending by bringing him back rash and casually..but part of me thinks that I want him to reunite with Thor (and Sylvie and Mobius). But we'll see 🙏 and in the meantime - what a great series and what a great tribute to it! Thank you 💚
Villains are great, fun characters. But well-written villain redemption storylines are always my favorite! Loki, Zuko... such amazing characters
YES!! The video I have been waiting for!!!
To be honest I was very sour and a bit disappointed with Loki’s first psychology video, because while I understood it… I didn’t feel like it did the character justice. Loki fans have been passionately defending and upholding the character (quite literally, if the stories that he was only supposed to appear in Thor 1 and Avengers are to be believed) for many many years. Sure, I think the fandom definitely took some creative liberties but for us to have the Loki show (which I’m so glad you agree is a freaking masterpiece!) delve deeper into his character was so awesome!
I’m just really chuffed that you guys made this video and addressed both the complex journey that Loki has taken and the incredible quality and nuance of this show :) The wait was so worth it
Yes exactly! Kenneth Branagh's Loki and Taika Waititi's Loki are two very different characters, and for the first video (and the show, and therefore this video) to make sense, you have to believe Ragnarok's joke Loki is the real one, which.
He's not why we like the character. We like the complex character of the first movie.
Literally I've been trying to figure out how to describe my feelings on this video, spent an hour typing and deleting a comment, and I think you described it perfectly. A little sour on the first video.
(Like. Which is it? Narcissism, or insecurity? If your insecurity drives you to wear a mask of being better than everyone, is that narcissism?)
25:08 "Till you're 90." - Marvel to Tom Hiddleston, probably
I was just watching a clip of LOKI today… the scene where he sees how his life goes and dies, such a wonderful and sad scene. Love the development of his character through the MCU. He’s one of my favourite characters because of it. 💚🌌
I love how the show recontextualize the prior Loki appearances,. Most people only remember the 2012 Avengers version which was in an extremely broken-insecure state (+ apparently he was mind-controlled by the stone) and assumed Loki was always like that. Which he is not. "Meh Loki used to be a badass psychopath" Yet the movie portrayal could also be interpreted as just a ridiculously cringe kid throwing a tantrum. I think it's also the reason why s2 was more appreciated, cuz it was more in line with the "bipolar" playful-dangerous side of Loki while bringing very iconic scenes with his abilities
stop i started jumping up and down when i saw this 😭
not only do i get so excited for any new video from my internet dads, but i loveee loki. so excited for another episode on him
Thank you for this! There is no such thing as enough LOKI content. ^^
My favorite thing about the series is the dynamic between Loki and Mobius. Mobius seems the first person Loki comes across, who sees right through his attitude.
The hair flip compilation at the end! 🤣🤣🤣
Its been a year since i finished the Loki series and its still been with me ever since the finale, i still think about it to this day.
oh man, I've been hoping for you to make an episode about the Loki series ever since I've finished the second season... Loki means so much to me as a character and you displayed his arc so so well! Thank you!!
We're so glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching!
One of my favorite scenes in the series is one where Loki isn't even on screen, after his sacrifice where he sits on the throne the song "Purpose is Glorious" plays and shows how many people were moved and affected by his decision, it makes his sacrifice hit much harder
As a little kid who found Loki more than a decade ago and related to him, seeing his character arc completing like this is so bittersweet. Ohhh what a perfect end but also I’m in pain.
I've been waiting patiently for the variant Loki to hopefully get his own video. This show did so much for multiple characters in only 2 seasons that tons of shows can't do in 10. Definitely on my top 5 of shows, and idk how many times I've rewatched it.
Loki’s character arc - satisfyingly brilliant.
Tom Hiddleston as Loki - exceptionally outstanding!!
I agree with Jonathan's take on other people inhibiting your growth and change (deliberately or not). Especially if they haven't seen you for an extended period. It takes a long time to help them realize the person you were then isn't who you are now.
I loooooved the Loki series so so much and as expected, your take on it just went in and made it even better! I love you for that, internet dads!!
Loki was handled the best way possible. Ended in the best way possible. I couldn't have asked for more from the cast and crew. Chef's kiss. 10/10. A+. Will recommend.
OOOOOOO I am so happy you guys finally made a video of loki's version of the series! Can't wait for the sylvie one
This is such a great video. Great breakdown. Great commentary. Also, great editing? 23:00 onward was so perfect with the clips chosen! Thank you for revisiting this series.
Who better to tend to the branches of time than the god of chaos! Life is chaos and yet we fear it means losing control. Love this episode and love the show! It was beautifully written and executed ❤❤❤
The scene in the first Thor movie where Odin is going on about how "one of you will be king" hits so much different and hurts so much more when you realize that Loki was NEVER in line for the throne and Odin was actually gaslighting Loki his whole life.
This was so good. Loki was probably my favorite of the Marvel D+ series that I've watched. I love Loki's progression over the various MCU pieces that he's been in from villain to anti-hero to legitimate hero. So good.
I was so sad to find out you did psychology of a villain for Loki without the show. And now you covered the rest of his character with the show. Thank you so much, this made me so happy!
I like that his redemption didn't make him a flat character like I have seen happen to a villain in another piece of fiction.
What other villain? I'm curious.
@@Aeras89 Swedish children's comics not known abroad. The villain was called Vargen = The Wolf, and lost his personality when he became good.
@@larssjostrom6565 Gotcha. Don't know the character, but I feel like I've definitely seen that happen to villains before.
@ I am not surprised. When writing a redemption storyarc we should ask ourselves not just how to redeem the villain, but whom they are besides their villany.
9:16 I love that “about scene”! So many Lokis played by different actors but all having the heart of the Loki we have gotten to know and love! There can never be “too much” Loki lol!
I hope Jack Veal, the actor who played Kid Loki, is okay. He recently became homeless.
Google says he found a home, I hope it works out for him, too.
Thank you for inserting that _Hot Fuzz_ clip after "the greater good" because my mind does that literally every time I hear that phrase anywhere.
I like how this is 'psychology of a hero' now than 'psychology of a villain' here. Cause deep inside, Loki is not truly a pure villain.
I absolutely LOVE that you guys did a sequel to Loki with his tv series. Hands down my favorite MCU show of them all.
Woo! Thanks for watching!
“YES, THAT’S HOW IT FEELS!!!!” Seriously though, I finished this show recently and I loved it!! So happy that we’re talking about this!
Something I heard about what it means to be a good leader is someone who helps others be the best they can be. Loki n giving everyone freedom to be better than the sacred time line said they shouldn't be is really telling in how Loki grew into the role of a true leader.
YYYYEEEESSSS IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE FOR SO LONG!!!!! 💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚
I really needed this episode right now. Thank you.
You're very welcome ❤️
Istg from the moment I saw Loki's first appearance I knew I would love him because of how complex he is. Seeing his journey in the Loki series made me love him even harder and it's all thanks to Tom Hiddleston's performance along with the glorious writing from the team
OH MY GOD I was yearning to see another Loki episode that take into account the series but I thought you didn't do TV series 😭THANK YOU SO MUCH !
Going from seeing him under the villian therapy to seeing him under the psychology of hero is so nice
A true villain to hero arc!
@CinemaTherapyShow yes!
Thank you for such a wonderful video with spectacular subtitles.
Thanks for watching!
That season 2 loop reveal was crazy good too.
The fact that Loki is one of my favorite entities may or may not have anything to do with it, but imo, how they handled him makes up for everything they got wrong about Norse mythology.
And the way you guys broke it down was just... incredibly meaningful for me. You are both definitely fulfilling your glorious purpose.
Tom Hiddleston deserves an award for his role as Loki. Loki the serious is a masterpiece my husband and I loved it. It's probably our favorite marvel series they've made. Right up there with Hawkeye and Daredevil.
So excited for more Charlie Cox as Daredevil!
Yay for an episode on Sylvie! My boyfriend had me watch Loki and I loved it! It's so cool to see the growth over what would be his therapy
This video is timely as heck. We are ALL burdened with glorious purpose, and we can save the world if we can be courageous enough to be vulnerable, act in alignment with our values, and embrace/protect our communities.
Why do all your videos cut so deep? Love your channel, thanks and keep making gold.
I know he says “I’m a narcissist” but I’ve seen some very spot on breakdowns about the possibility of bpd. And as someone with BPD… I can see it (which is probably why I’m drawn to characters like this.)
The deep seated fear of being alone, being abandoned. Doing everything possible to not be abandoned, and that causing it to happen anyway. The black and white thinking, the anger blowouts. These don’t go away through the show but they are tempered, focused.
And the thing is, BPD has such a bad reputation among therapists even, but if we are aware of why we do what we do, it can be as much a vehicle for altruism and connection and heroism as it can be villainy, of being the bad guy.
I was never interested in Marvel before this show. Still not interested in much of it. But the existential quandaries, the personal growth, tackling Big Questions through characters who feel small and vulnerable… so well done. As you can see from my icon it made an impression 😂
…. But also, if you’re doing TV shows 👀 Arcane anyone?
Man, you guys! I loved this series and cried at it at the end. Your depth of understanding made me cry all over again. Thanks for what you do!
Best. Character. Arc. Ever.
He's always been my favorite in the Marvel films and this was a fitting end(?) to his story.
i once, many years ago, wrote an entire essay about Loki, and how i identified with him and just tragic his character truly is.
i stand by it even now and gods do i adore what the show did for him, even as i weep for his fate. (though season 3 gonna really tell whats up)
he is such an important character to me and has stood, with deadpool, as one of my greatest comfort characters simply bc they are just so tortured (frequently by their own mind) but still do the best they can do do whats right in the end. (even after making terrible mistakes.) i too have made terrible mistakes and have tried as hard as i can to move past them into being a better person in the end.
tldr, i have never clicked a link so fast and i havent even watched it yet and gods im already in tears.
The last scene was such a spiritual moment for pagans/heathens. My husband gasped at the beauty of it.
YES. I loved that they used Yggdrasil as the new shape of the timeline. It speaks so deeply to just how much Loki has genuinely changed 💚.