I heard Ptx, Voiceplay & Home Free in concert & VIP up close & as a musician: many of Tim's "growl" notes are low chest notes that sound growly cuz a little sharper/country-ish (my bass gospel uncle sounds like that), but has a beautiful 'pop' singing voice: "Tim Foust- 'Can't Help Falling In Love' ", Avi's def. operatic/pop/rounder w/a "sweeter' breathier singing voice, Geoff's also rounder/pop & lovely fuller pop voice than Avi..All pretty amazing & consistent..😊
Fortex vize Geoff’s chest range is from D1-C5 (B4 is the last good sounding melodic note), and Tim’s chest range is Eb1-C5. They’re practically the same, and I’m guessing Tim can go lower than a Eb1 since he hit it years ago
Really glad you included the performance at 13:16, it’s quite an unknown performance - especially with the G#1 in chest. The one at 13:46 too. I’d never noticed that E1 at 19:46 so nice spot. Very well put together video
Thank you very much!! I was thinking about whether to include studio or live versions of What’s this and Aca broadway. Both of the live versions are much clearer than live, but I wanted to show that Geoff is able to do cool things or cooler than studio version, so I chose live one! I’ve never seen anyone doing chest-growl slide in live and that’s really awesome!!
You know that you got some bad ass bass singers if the low note compilation goes down from a c#2... Can‘t even hit a single note in this vid if I don‘t growl
I’m a true tenor with a near 4 octave range and they were both up near the top of my range with falsetto! Amazing! Interestingly my 15 year old son is a base with similar falsetto ability and he went through 5 octaves with my wife on the piano recently! I might be able to make the room shake with the high notes but these dudes cause earthquakes with low notes I can’t touch lol! Awesome!
That's Geoff's son! Daddy Sang Bass is based around Voiceplay's familes. I've never seen videos of his (the baby's name is William, btw)reactions to his dad's bass notes, but I agree with you guys, he's probably like "Mooooommm, what happened to dad's voice?"🤣 Edit:Oof just realized I probably told you guys info you already knew🤣
4:08 I think Tim does sing a C5 there but its almost certainly Austin who is singing the lead C5. If you listen quite closely you'll hear that there is a C5 in the harmony that i believe is Tim.
If you check out Geoff's videos about singing, he claims to be more of a bass baritone. I believe he and Tim both fall comfortably into this category. They are strong representations of what vocal training (and genetics) can produce.
I'm quite glad I found this video, finally finalized my chest range. I'm currently E1/Fb1 - Ab4 My range isn't as high, so I guess I got coverage on the lower side then.
Zabalyro An “Fb1” and E1 are the same note. Remember that an E1 and F1 are only a half step apart. But if you can genuinely hit an E1 in your chest I would love to hear it somehow
What about the A0 in Sold? Personally i believe that they growl or fry everything after a G#1. They have pretty similar vocal ranges, same falsetto, same highs with chest but Tim can go lower with growling because he is propably more experienced with it. But Geoff has way richer and fuller low chest notes.
Giorgio Devez Tim foust uses some chest fry mix in the wagon wheel song and a few other times but I can’t think of an example of when Geoff uses chest fry mix Tbh I try to stay away from Tim storms and his rubbish, he doesn’t even sound like a bass singer to me
@@matthewdockray9745 I agree with you about the Tim Storms thing. Geoff has used some vocal fry in songs such as The Death Of A Bachelor. Still though they are both amazing bass singers, but if you'd like, you should check out the amazing Rodney Britt, the bass singer of Acappella and Paul Kennamer from Valor. They are legends in bass singing. Listen to How Great Thou Art by Valor and When They Ring Those Golden Bells by Acappella. Oh, i almost forgot though, very nice video keep them up! :)
Giorgio Devez all the low notes in death of a bachelor was chest voice, pretty unedited and without bass boost why is why they sound fryish but they’re scraping the bottom of his chest voice. I’ll be honest I’m not much of a fan of PDK, everything below G#1 he fries and I just don’t think it sounds great
While this is true in the original there's definitely a difference if you compare it with the bass boosted version. Original: ruclips.net/video/Bz8OmUMCHZw/видео.html Bass Boosted: ruclips.net/video/4LwMwfL92uc/видео.html
Its great to see an up-to-date vocal range video for Geoff and Tim. However, Geoff's C#5 at 4:20 sounds very chesty in comparison to the D5 afterwards; it sounds much more similar to the chest G#4 than any of Geoff's falsetto. Also: How come the A4 at 3:29 is countable but the B4 at 3:45 isn't.
There's no such thing as C#5 in chest. Unless it is screaming. Even the highest tenors start mixing after F#4. Again unless you consider mixed voice as chest voice.
I thought more than 5 videos in single note is too much, and in my opinion, his chest G1 in Death of a Bachelor and Aca Disney sounds greater than one in White Christmas, so I excluded it..! (Not to mention, White Christmas still sound amazingly fantastic!!)
Hey this was really well made but there are a lot of mistakes. Tim's lowest chest note is in fact an F1. If you listen to the Sing-Off version on Spotify, it basically takes out the sound of the audience so they're easier to hear. When Tim hits that F1 it's a lot more clear to hear when he hits it (headphones are required tho 😂 😂). Another thing, Tim's lowest growl note is an A0. I saw some of the comments about the Sold cover and that made me think again. I heard the octave up version and that made me think again, but the overtone got to me too, so I'm still a bit stuck on that, but he hits an A0 in Think A Little Less (he hits it either once or twice😂). And one of Tim's F#1 chest notes was actually an F1. You were off by a semitone. For Geoff, his highest recorded chest (or belted) note is an Eb5. It was a several-day-ago thing so I'll give you a pass on that one. Also, Geoff's C#5 was belted not falsetto. If you want another C#5 belt there's one on the Moana Medley when he says "you little semi-demi-mini god OUCHHH!!!!" (sorry for being cringy 😂). One of his G#1 "chest" notes were growled. His B1 in the Moana Medley was chest but the G1 after that was subharmonic. His lowest countable chest note should be an E1. That E2-E1 slide was intentional and it matched perfectly. Non-mistakes (just stuff I was thinking about lol 😂) I was also thinking about this as I was watching this. Some time ago Voiceplay did a cover of Phantom of the Opera. In the beginning Geoff hits a D1 but one thing that got to me was whether it was growl or subharmonic because although that definitely wasn't chest, it could be subharmonic, his growls are super airy and they get airier when he goes lower and it wasn't airy at all. And in the Moana Medley at the end, do you think he growls a B0 at the end (Geoff lol)? And for Geoff again 😂😂 instead should it be lowest RECORDED subharmonic? After all, he IS hiding a LOT of his talent from us. He just showed us his new highest belt 😂😂😂😂 Anyways, nice video. And it's fine to make mistakes. That's why were here to help 😊😊
Its Ethannn Thanks for commenting and giving me a lot of advice!! I've heard Sing Off version of I Want Crazy on Spotify, and I thought it was too airy to be chest voice, because I heard some kind of air rumble, but I have to recheck it! As for his lowest note, there might be A0s in Sold, but all I heard was A1 with subtle E2 layered, and I couldn't prove the A0, so I didn't include it… And I'm sure that it's a growled A1 in the end of Think A Little Less. Geoff's C♯5 in Elvira is very strong (reinforced) falsetto, in my opinion. He did the same thing in Queen in 5 min.(You can hear him switch between chest to falsetto at B♭4) I've never succeeded to hear D1 in Phantom of Opera (I always hear D2), so I can't judge it whether it's a growl of subharmonic :c And I think Geoff's growl slide in Moana Medley is G1-somewhere around D1 as far as I checked with piano! Again, thanks for commenting!! I enjoyed reading your comment and had a great debate!!!
@@hayatropical2659 haha no problem! For Tim I can understand what you're saying, but for Geoff and his high notes, I still don't see from your point of view. His high belts are in mixed voice lol. It does sound like falsetto because of the fact that it's fifth octave from a bass (WHICH IS FRICKIN' LEGENDARY), but it's really mixed voice. If it was falsetto then he probably would have stayed in falsetto throughout the entire phrase. I see the register you're talking about, it's called masked head voice (you probably know it but lol). Geoff doesn't use masked head voice, he does mix them, and mixed voice counts as belts. He probably has a heady mixed (head-dominant). But it's not falsetto. And if you can find comparisons (like his D5 falsetto and the Eb5)(ik they're two different notes but that's the best I can think of since he still owes us a lot of talent) you can hear the difference. But anyways, thanks for the reply! And ik I said no Tim but the rumble was probably either Tim busting the speakers or the timbre of his voice. And if you listen to Timeless, he sings an F1 in chest. He does C2 C1(growled)(pause) C2 C1(growled) F1 F1(both chest) C2 C2 etc. and he does the same but chests a G1 the second time. But yeah... thanks again for the reply!!!
Its Ethannn To be honest, I'm not completely sure about mixed note, but I wanted to say he switches mix or falsetto to chest in the high part of Queen in 5 min. If you listen to very carefully, you'll find that he first quickly changes from chest to mix or falsetto E♭5 and tops that, then descends from E♭5-C♯5 and switches to chest and keeps descending from B♭4-G♯4-F♯4. So there's a high possibility that the note is mixed and what I'm pointing as “reinforced falsetto” actually might be mixed note… I have to study these music theory harder as a people who makes vocal range video… Anyways, thanks for giving me advice!!
Tim is the most impressive bass because he does the growls easily as middle chest notes (He's like the bass god). No other bass can do it like him. Geoff is awesome but... 16:0417:3318:0220:2621:03 this is Tim Foust... ;)
When Tim sings really low notes he puts his hand down on the chest note but he bends knees on growl notes, that being said, the f1 isn’t a growl note it’s a chest along with ring of fire, he also has an A0 in “sold”
boomsnap 18 I think it depends on his feeling. When he sings low notes at the end, or solo part, he tends to put his hand down, but when he sings it at the middle of the song, or singing bass part, he often bends his knees.
boomsnap 18 Honestly, I can't make a conclusion about his low notes in Sing Off, because there are lots of opinions about it, and all of those seem right… But thanks for giving me good mark for this vid!!
Tim voice is higher in his new single release. Way higher than they showed, more like Austin's. Tim has has gone sub harmonic sev÷ral times and busted speakers. These men are both talented and you really can't compare them. The ring of fire was lower for Tim in the video as compared to competion.. When he was young he started as a tenor but with puberty, change of voice. He kept a voice coach to keep His upp range. Thus the the 5 natural octaves. And would sould someone explain the word chest as compared to natural voice? I'm not joking, I don't know.
Sa totoo lang subscriber tlaga ako sa kanila bsta bass na.. Ilan na napanood ko but kahit sino ang jujudge totoo na bass lang voice type nila Avi Kaplan and Geoff.. Tim Foust caught me he's voice is purely baritone...I thought nga c Geoff pinakamalaki pro nung napakinggan ko lagi c Tim.. Woowwww!!! Kya kinakanta ko rn mga bass nya eh
Hey! I think Geoff has showed off wy more of his range in the past few years, So I'd be cool to see how that is now, though a lot are right when saying that Geoff is a master of subharmonics while Tim is a master of the growl technique
Tim wins this like always. You’re the only one that said that note in ring of fire was growl. Everybody else said it was chest. F1s are chest!!! His lowest growl note is like a A0. Both of them are bass-baritone. When home free sings a song called sold, Tim hits a A0.
Tha Boy Kota I used to think his F♯1 and F1 in sing off were sung in chest, but when I hear it carefully, both notes have smooth sound which growl note usually has, so I decided to be growl notes. His A0s in Sold! are actually A1s. You can tell it by raising an octave up. Those notes definetely doesn't sound A1s when you raise an octave up. And I made this video based on The Range Place (A site that debates about singer's vocal range) , so I stated Geoff's voice type as bass. I think both singers have fantastic ability, so I can't decide who's better, in my opinion!
This is one of the first times I really tried to hit g1 AND I WAS ABLE TO :) sounded nicer in a growl note than my chest voice but hey I did it in both lol
For one, Geoff can go way lower and so can Tim, There lowest notes both are A0 And Tim is a bass, Geoff is the one that considers himself a baritone-bass......
I believe that A0 is actually an A1. He hits G0 in various live performance, but it's half unintentional (He doesn't aim at that note), so I exclude it.
Fearless GD I’d bet almost any amount of money they’re lying. I’ve seen someone that literally claimed they could sing the entire piano (A0-C8) when they were in middle school. Just people that want praise from random people on the internet.
@@thebigbadbeanman bruh. You might get a C2 from a middle schooler (might). If any middle schooler that isn't a freak of nature can actually sing lower than C2 then assume they got shot in the throat and never completely healed.
Fearless GD getting below like a G2 or an A2 from a middle schooler in chest is surprising (from what I’ve seen) , a C2 from a middle schooler would make them a freak of nature, or they developed super quick
@@joshimmanueltureypurba6738 he still hit an e1 in chest which is basically impossible so i call that a win for chest but tim can hit lower only with growl
I hate how Ptx fans always say that Avi is the best when really, Tim has just as good of or an even better high range than Avi. And then Tim and Geoff both have Avi destroyed when it comes to low notes. Like Avi is good and all, but he’s not as good as these two guys
The first and third G♯1 sound soft tone that usual growl note has, so he may sang it in growl, but the second G♯1 sounds more solid and chesty than others which I can’t think of him singing in growl. Usually people sing all 3 notes in chest or growl, so I think he did it in chest voice. Edit: The third note may be a growled one if he switched from chest to growl.
Actually, I found that his larynx goes down at the first G♯1, and moves back at second and third G♯1, so first one is chest and second and third one are possibly growled.
Eddie Teddie everyone resonance placement is different. Geoff has a very tall and open sound, because of his soft palate placement. Generalizations aren’t really realistic when talking body mechanics
@@hayatropical2659 i can hear that he starts at a g2, then he flips growl and slides down, but it just sounds like exhaling, but then suddenly it's a full note
I know this video is on the older side, but I just wanted to share my piece on Tim’s sing off F1. If you watch the whole video, he sings F1 twice: the one in the middle that everyone has seen a million times, and one at the end of the song. The one at the end of the song is obviously a growl, but you can hear him attempt the note in chest before switching to growl, probably because he couldn’t sing it that quickly. That growl sounds nothing like the F1 in the middle: the one in the middle is very smooth and doesn’t have the breathy, edgy quality of a growl note. This leads me to believe that that note is in his chest range.
Jean Carlos LV His A0s in Sold! are actually A1s. You can tell it by raising the song an octave up. And in my opinion, his F1 in sing off is sung in growl note, because it has smooth tone that growl note usually has.
@hayatropical2 When you turn up the octave, the overtone covers the actual note. It would sound a lot different if it was an A1, so I think the note in Sold is indeed an A0.
He can't hold it that long. While Tim already mastered the growl technique and can go way lower. However, Tim can not do subharmonics (based on their songs/performances. But i'm really sure he can do that somehow. It's just not his thing and not suitable for country music. Geoff needs to growl sometimes although he can do it using subharmonics because he choose what sound fits to the song.
I’d like to think Tim is the master of growl in acapella, and Jeff is the master of subharmonics in acapella. Both are phenomenal basses.
Deputy TacticalLaws So true!
I heard Ptx, Voiceplay & Home Free in concert & VIP up close & as a musician: many of Tim's "growl" notes are low chest notes that sound growly cuz a little sharper/country-ish (my bass gospel uncle sounds like that), but has a beautiful 'pop' singing voice: "Tim Foust- 'Can't Help Falling In Love' ", Avi's def. operatic/pop/rounder w/a "sweeter' breathier singing voice, Geoff's also rounder/pop & lovely fuller pop voice than Avi..All pretty amazing & consistent..😊
Geoff not jeff
Geoff also has the lowest chest voice
subharmonics is a cheap tactic for people without deep enough voices to hit anything below an A1. Geoff is ass
Very similar in range but for me Geoff wins on tone. Smoothest bass notes I ever heard.
Geoff’s chest range is insane
Allen So true!!
Tim has practically the same chest range
Both insane?
@@gidster192 no
Fortex vize Geoff’s chest range is from D1-C5 (B4 is the last good sounding melodic note), and Tim’s chest range is Eb1-C5. They’re practically the same, and I’m guessing Tim can go lower than a Eb1 since he hit it years ago
14:42 Chance is chesting that background G1. Absolute unit
Also I played this in my car to test 21:03 and it was shaking my car at 25db LOL
Btw it’s a growl that chance is singing but still pretty impressive
LolMagnum 1 no it’s not
Conclusion: They're both AWESOME!!! And mind-blowing!
And real easy on the eyes.
@@ellicooper2323 Yeah, there is that...but none of the guys in either group are hard on them!
@DravenGal Truth
Really glad you included the performance at 13:16, it’s quite an unknown performance - especially with the G#1 in chest. The one at 13:46 too. I’d never noticed that E1 at 19:46 so nice spot.
Very well put together video
Thank you very much!!
I was thinking about whether to include studio or live versions of What’s this and Aca broadway. Both of the live versions are much clearer than live, but I wanted to show that Geoff is able to do cool things or cooler than studio version, so I chose live one!
I’ve never seen anyone doing chest-growl slide in live and that’s really awesome!!
You know that you got some bad ass bass singers if the low note compilation goes down from a c#2... Can‘t even hit a single note in this vid if I don‘t growl
I can't reach these notes even IF I growl. So be proud of yourself!
Same. Lol. It's the hair man. It gives them power.
I can sing a C2 in chest daily but my lowest ever is an A1
I’m a true tenor with a near 4 octave range and they were both up near the top of my range with falsetto! Amazing! Interestingly my 15 year old son is a base with similar falsetto ability and he went through 5 octaves with my wife on the piano recently! I might be able to make the room shake with the high notes but these dudes cause earthquakes with low notes I can’t touch lol! Awesome!
I love both of these guys. Their deep voices are amazing! Home Free shows off Tim's voice more than Geoff's group shows his.
when geoff hit the low note with the baby on his lap the baby would be like waaaaaaaaaa
Dodge Man
The baby would think "What the hell is this monster!?!?"
100% agreed
That's Geoff's son! Daddy Sang Bass is based around Voiceplay's familes. I've never seen videos of his (the baby's name is William, btw)reactions to his dad's bass notes, but I agree with you guys, he's probably like "Mooooommm, what happened to dad's voice?"🤣
Edit:Oof just realized I probably told you guys info you already knew🤣
He makes the brown note to have baby release his bowels lol
Tim foust is a musician it's just amazing how high he can go and how deep he can get .....Geoff can sing too but tim foust is just something
10:26 even Earls amazed xD
Just watched that again. Never noticed it before.
I was thinking the same thing lol
Christ, the bass boosted Boondocks sounds insane.
My headphones shaked
This was the day my mind got blown because I never thought Geoff and Tim could ever go that high….0-o
4:08 I think Tim does sing a C5 there but its almost certainly Austin who is singing the lead C5. If you listen quite closely you'll hear that there is a C5 in the harmony that i believe is Tim.
TheComedyne I think Austin sings D5-E♭5 in the background while Tim sings B♭4-C5
Tim's range is A0 - A5 not B0 - A5 (Sold cover he hits A0) He hits it in the pre-recorded as WELL as in a live performance.
No. The studio debated version A0 is still debated. It’s A1 live
If you check out Geoff's videos about singing, he claims to be more of a bass baritone. I believe he and Tim both fall comfortably into this category. They are strong representations of what vocal training (and genetics) can produce.
Tim goes down to an A0 so B0 isn’t his lowest note.
I believe that A0 is actually an A1.
hayatropical2 no, try comparing the A in Sold! And compare it to a tuner A1 and you can see that it is an octave lower than A1 so it’s A0
@@thewamr tim said that that a0 was adam chance doing throat bass a1 mixed with his a1 growl and some editing
@@Mitch-zy7dj dont you mean adam rupp?
@@calebcooper2841 yeah
7:48 imma repeat this 1 million times
Which song of Home free was it?
@@allennelson6806 it was "what child is this?" preformed by home free accompanying previous member chris Rupp
@@jacksoncurrin9618 Thanks bro...
I'm quite glad I found this video, finally finalized my chest range.
I'm currently E1/Fb1 - Ab4 My range isn't as high, so I guess I got coverage on the lower side then.
Zabalyro An “Fb1” and E1 are the same note. Remember that an E1 and F1 are only a half step apart. But if you can genuinely hit an E1 in your chest I would love to hear it somehow
11:31
Me this sounds good
Geoff A1
Me falls of chair
The Ring of Fire G1 is probably the best I've ever heard
so true
Geoff did: Far over Misty mountain Cold, at the end he hit chest G1 so breathy and clean.
Honestly i don’t know how many times I’ve watched this.
Thank you very much!
What about the A0 in Sold? Personally i believe that they growl or fry everything after a G#1. They have pretty similar vocal ranges, same falsetto, same highs with chest but Tim can go lower with growling because he is propably more experienced with it. But Geoff has way richer and fuller low chest notes.
Giorgio Devez the A0 is actually a growled A1
There’s literally no fry in this video
@@matthewdockray9745 Well if you don't count Mix as Fry then sure, there isn't any, but do you believe the same about Tim Storm's G -7? It's all fry.
Giorgio Devez Tim foust uses some chest fry mix in the wagon wheel song and a few other times but I can’t think of an example of when Geoff uses chest fry mix
Tbh I try to stay away from Tim storms and his rubbish, he doesn’t even sound like a bass singer to me
@@matthewdockray9745 I agree with you about the Tim Storms thing. Geoff has used some vocal fry in songs such as The Death Of A Bachelor. Still though they are both amazing bass singers, but if you'd like, you should check out the amazing Rodney Britt, the bass singer of Acappella and Paul Kennamer from Valor. They are legends in bass singing. Listen to How Great Thou Art by Valor and When They Ring Those Golden Bells by Acappella. Oh, i almost forgot though, very nice video keep them up! :)
Giorgio Devez all the low notes in death of a bachelor was chest voice, pretty unedited and without bass boost why is why they sound fryish but they’re scraping the bottom of his chest voice.
I’ll be honest I’m not much of a fan of PDK, everything below G#1 he fries and I just don’t think it sounds great
Tim is the one and only. Hes the best ever
ironic that some basses can sing higher than some baritones
And also some tenors.
corrections:
Tim Foust vocal range: (C0) - B0 - G1 - B4 - A5
Geoff Castellucci vocal range: (C#0) - B0 - E1 - C#5 - A5
21:08 Actually, it sounds like that not because it's bass boosted, but because it is backed by the beatboxer doing throat bass notes an octave higher
While this is true in the original there's definitely a difference if you compare it with the bass boosted version.
Original: ruclips.net/video/Bz8OmUMCHZw/видео.html
Bass Boosted: ruclips.net/video/4LwMwfL92uc/видео.html
Tim sounds better to me. I guess it’s because I like the country style more
I think what is interesting, is that they appear to like and respect each other.
Its great to see an up-to-date vocal range video for Geoff and Tim. However, Geoff's C#5 at 4:20 sounds very chesty in comparison to the D5 afterwards; it sounds much more similar to the chest G#4 than any of Geoff's falsetto. Also: How come the A4 at 3:29 is countable but the B4 at 3:45 isn't.
Joseph Owens I think the B4 isn’t (as) countable because it sounds a lot more like strained mixed voice, I’m not sure
The C♯5 sounds very strong, reinforced falsetto to me…
Sorry for the A4, both A4 and B4 are more like shouted notes than singing notes… my mistake :(
There's no such thing as C#5 in chest. Unless it is screaming. Even the highest tenors start mixing after F#4. Again unless you consider mixed voice as chest voice.
Why do Tim, Geoff and Avi all have long hair?
San Kieslarck haha ikr, long and kinda slicked back
I think there's a law that says bass master must have long hair ;)
hayatropical2 lmao, i’m currently letting my hair grow out, hope this works
Umm Tim storms?
As a bass I can confirm that all basses must have long, slicked back hair. Singing bass just isnt the same without it.
I would‘ve used geoffs g1 in white christmas for sure tho. (Its a little bit older but slayyyys)
I thought more than 5 videos in single note is too much, and in my opinion, his chest G1 in Death of a Bachelor and Aca Disney sounds greater than one in White Christmas, so I excluded it..! (Not to mention, White Christmas still sound amazingly fantastic!!)
Tim has superb enunciation
Hey this was really well made but there are a lot of mistakes. Tim's lowest chest note is in fact an F1. If you listen to the Sing-Off version on Spotify, it basically takes out the sound of the audience so they're easier to hear. When Tim hits that F1 it's a lot more clear to hear when he hits it (headphones are required tho 😂 😂). Another thing, Tim's lowest growl note is an A0. I saw some of the comments about the Sold cover and that made me think again. I heard the octave up version and that made me think again, but the overtone got to me too, so I'm still a bit stuck on that, but he hits an A0 in Think A Little Less (he hits it either once or twice😂). And one of Tim's F#1 chest notes was actually an F1. You were off by a semitone. For Geoff, his highest recorded chest (or belted) note is an Eb5. It was a several-day-ago thing so I'll give you a pass on that one. Also, Geoff's C#5 was belted not falsetto. If you want another C#5 belt there's one on the Moana Medley when he says "you little semi-demi-mini god OUCHHH!!!!" (sorry for being cringy 😂). One of his G#1 "chest" notes were growled. His B1 in the Moana Medley was chest but the G1 after that was subharmonic. His lowest countable chest note should be an E1. That E2-E1 slide was intentional and it matched perfectly.
Non-mistakes (just stuff I was thinking about lol 😂)
I was also thinking about this as I was watching this. Some time ago Voiceplay did a cover of Phantom of the Opera. In the beginning Geoff hits a D1 but one thing that got to me was whether it was growl or subharmonic because although that definitely wasn't chest, it could be subharmonic, his growls are super airy and they get airier when he goes lower and it wasn't airy at all. And in the Moana Medley at the end, do you think he growls a B0 at the end (Geoff lol)? And for Geoff again 😂😂 instead should it be lowest RECORDED subharmonic? After all, he IS hiding a LOT of his talent from us. He just showed us his new highest belt 😂😂😂😂
Anyways, nice video. And it's fine to make mistakes. That's why were here to help 😊😊
Its Ethannn Thanks for commenting and giving me a lot of advice!!
I've heard Sing Off version of I Want Crazy on Spotify, and I thought it was too airy to be chest voice, because I heard some kind of air rumble, but I have to recheck it!
As for his lowest note, there might be A0s in Sold, but all I heard was A1 with subtle E2 layered, and I couldn't prove the A0, so I didn't include it… And I'm sure that it's a growled A1 in the end of Think A Little Less.
Geoff's C♯5 in Elvira is very strong (reinforced) falsetto, in my opinion. He did the same thing in Queen in 5 min.(You can hear him switch between chest to falsetto at B♭4)
I've never succeeded to hear D1 in Phantom of Opera (I always hear D2), so I can't judge it whether it's a growl of subharmonic :c
And I think Geoff's growl slide in Moana Medley is G1-somewhere around D1 as far as I checked with piano!
Again, thanks for commenting!! I enjoyed reading your comment and had a great debate!!!
@@hayatropical2659 haha no problem! For Tim I can understand what you're saying, but for Geoff and his high notes, I still don't see from your point of view. His high belts are in mixed voice lol. It does sound like falsetto because of the fact that it's fifth octave from a bass (WHICH IS FRICKIN' LEGENDARY), but it's really mixed voice. If it was falsetto then he probably would have stayed in falsetto throughout the entire phrase. I see the register you're talking about, it's called masked head voice (you probably know it but lol). Geoff doesn't use masked head voice, he does mix them, and mixed voice counts as belts. He probably has a heady mixed (head-dominant). But it's not falsetto. And if you can find comparisons (like his D5 falsetto and the Eb5)(ik they're two different notes but that's the best I can think of since he still owes us a lot of talent) you can hear the difference. But anyways, thanks for the reply! And ik I said no Tim but the rumble was probably either Tim busting the speakers or the timbre of his voice. And if you listen to Timeless, he sings an F1 in chest. He does C2 C1(growled)(pause) C2 C1(growled) F1 F1(both chest) C2 C2 etc. and he does the same but chests a G1 the second time. But yeah... thanks again for the reply!!!
Its Ethannn the D1 in phantom of the opera is an added bass effect. Not countable
Its Ethannn To be honest, I'm not completely sure about mixed note, but I wanted to say he switches mix or falsetto to chest in the high part of Queen in 5 min. If you listen to very carefully, you'll find that he first quickly changes from chest to mix or falsetto E♭5 and tops that, then descends from E♭5-C♯5 and switches to chest and keeps descending from B♭4-G♯4-F♯4. So there's a high possibility that the note is mixed and what I'm pointing as “reinforced falsetto” actually might be mixed note… I have to study these music theory harder as a people who makes vocal range video…
Anyways, thanks for giving me advice!!
Matthew Dockray I also think so… It's very subtle and airy…
Even though they are basses,I'm surprised that they can reach to a A5
Ik most tenors can’t hit that
Marcello Berry do tenors generally have lower falsetto range than basses?
@@zice209 it's due to bassists having thicker vocal chords, allowing them to produce strong low and high frequencies
Allister Crow but is it only due to genetic or you can work on it?
Tim’s lowest chest note is actually an F1. Idk why everyone thinks that in Let’s Get Crazy it’s a growl note
It's very hard to decide whether a chest or growl, but I mostly think it's growled.
Btw, the chest at 17:36 is actually an F1
I will be uploading Avi Kaplan's live vocal range video in two days, so stay tuned!
How do they have such wide ranges!?!? Holy crap
Tim is the most impressive bass because he does the growls easily as middle chest notes (He's like the bass god). No other bass can do it like him. Geoff is awesome but... 16:04 17:33 18:02 20:26 21:03 this is Tim Foust... ;)
When Tim sings really low notes he puts his hand down on the chest note but he bends knees on growl notes, that being said, the f1 isn’t a growl note it’s a chest along with ring of fire, he also has an A0 in “sold”
boomsnap 18 I think it depends on his feeling. When he sings low notes at the end, or solo part, he tends to put his hand down, but when he sings it at the middle of the song, or singing bass part, he often bends his knees.
hayatropical2 those were the only problems I saw, but you could back them pretty well, but it was still a pretty well put together video
boomsnap 18 Honestly, I can't make a conclusion about his low notes in Sing Off, because there are lots of opinions about it, and all of those seem right…
But thanks for giving me good mark for this vid!!
Those are well known growl notes, you're just looking for reasons to say Tim is better than geoff, but geoff is better
@@kn3236 bro that was almost 2 years ago😂 at the time everyone was saying they were chest so I just thought that's what they were🤣
Tim just has it hands down
4:03 Are you sure that C5 is sung by Tim??? It kinda sounds like Austin :/ He's a beast anyway
The “Ooh” after Tim’s part definitely sounds Tim, so I think the chest C5 also comes from Tim
Sounds like Tim
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Tim's voice is so comforting. Geoff is great also but he uses his voice loudly not comforting.
To help with the argument of the note in Sold! I was lucky enough to ask Tim himself at a concert and he said it was A0
Jacob Howard Really? That's very helpful information!!
Yes, he also does it I believe at the end of “Think a little less”
Jacob Howard think a little less is an A1 at the end
Tim Foust’s Vocal Range is C0-A5 and Geoff Castellucci’s Vocal Range is C0/C#0-A5!😮 You are the best!❤
I like how both of them sound, Tim is more of a singing voice and Geoff sounds more like bass to me
The funny thing is that Geoff considers himself a baritone with a bass range
Exactly what I think. Tim has a very airy low range. Geoff has ways to make it sound powerful with chest.
Tim voice is higher in his new single release. Way higher than they showed, more like Austin's. Tim has has gone sub harmonic sev÷ral times and busted speakers. These men are both talented and you really can't compare them. The ring of fire was lower for Tim in the video as compared to competion..
When he was young he started as a tenor but with puberty, change of voice. He kept a voice coach to keep His upp range. Thus the the 5 natural octaves.
And would sould someone explain the word chest as compared to natural voice? I'm not joking, I don't know.
17:33 F1, but it's most likely growl close to the mic
Sa totoo lang subscriber tlaga ako sa kanila bsta bass na.. Ilan na napanood ko but kahit sino ang jujudge totoo na bass lang voice type nila Avi Kaplan and Geoff.. Tim Foust caught me he's voice is purely baritone...I thought nga c Geoff pinakamalaki pro nung napakinggan ko lagi c Tim.. Woowwww!!! Kya kinakanta ko rn mga bass nya eh
Their both phenomenal !
what kind of technology do they have inside them?
Seb Bagley Autotune
And Basebooster
@@faulerpanda7376 Bruh
Pure talent with different vibe, one is mostly country and some Blues, one is pure bread pop.
A lot of Geoff's "chest" notes were subharmonics. Specifically the death of a bachelor on
12:00 is growl isn’t it?
Hank__ Bk yea
Tim and Geoff are very good. But did I miss a vibrato? What about Ko Woo Rim from Forestella?? Hmm. Why isn't he included. Interesting.
I can literally hear the soundwaves
Fan girling and quaking over geoffs F#1
18:05 i always tim's f1 there was a chest note and it doesnt really sound like a growl
I think it’s growl, but it’s worth debating
It's similiar to throat bass that is used in beatboxing and I think this is probably what Tim did here or very similiar to it.
Chest F1 at 17:36
Gidster1 what is that performance called
Hey! I think Geoff has showed off wy more of his range in the past few years, So I'd be cool to see how that is now, though a lot are right when saying that Geoff is a master of subharmonics while Tim is a master of the growl technique
Tims lowest growl is actually A0, lowest fry is G0 Geoffs lowest growl is C#1
Tim!!! Holy crap!!!
They do a lot of B1 and Bb1, I like that.
Tim wins this like always. You’re the only one that said that note in ring of fire was growl. Everybody else said it was chest. F1s are chest!!! His lowest growl note is like a A0. Both of them are bass-baritone. When home free sings a song called sold, Tim hits a A0.
Tha Boy Kota I used to think his F♯1 and F1 in sing off were sung in chest, but when I hear it carefully, both notes have smooth sound which growl note usually has, so I decided to be growl notes.
His A0s in Sold! are actually A1s. You can tell it by raising an octave up. Those notes definetely doesn't sound A1s when you raise an octave up.
And I made this video based on The Range Place (A site that debates about singer's vocal range) , so I stated Geoff's voice type as bass.
I think both singers have fantastic ability, so I can't decide who's better, in my opinion!
Loads of people say that his F1 was growled
Geoff Win In Subharmonics
Tim Win in growls
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This is one of the first times I really tried to hit g1 AND I WAS ABLE TO :) sounded nicer in a growl note than my chest voice but hey I did it in both lol
7:20 yo that dude next to Tim ... that’s the son from interstellar as a grown up
6:05 for the low notes
What song is that
Great video!
Lucas Oliveira Moraes de Azevedo Thank you very much!
For one, Geoff can go way lower and so can Tim, There lowest notes both are A0
And Tim is a bass, Geoff is the one that considers himself a baritone-bass......
Tim Foust has an A0 in Sold and he also has a G0 in a live performance of your man.
I believe that A0 is actually an A1.
He hits G0 in various live performance, but it's half unintentional (He doesn't aim at that note), so I exclude it.
hayatropical2 Tim wouldn’t growl an a1. It’s obviously an A0
Gidster1 I agree, he’s only growled an A1 once that I’ve ever heard
Tim foust is amazing
I love how whenever there’s a video like this 9/10 there are comments of people being like “I could hit that g1 in chest voice when I was 13”
They're just flexing. Or lying.
I'm 16 and I can only manage Eb2...
No G1 for me.
Fearless GD I’d bet almost any amount of money they’re lying. I’ve seen someone that literally claimed they could sing the entire piano (A0-C8) when they were in middle school. Just people that want praise from random people on the internet.
@@thebigbadbeanman bruh. You might get a C2 from a middle schooler (might). If any middle schooler that isn't a freak of nature can actually sing lower than C2 then assume they got shot in the throat and never completely healed.
Fearless GD getting below like a G2 or an A2 from a middle schooler in chest is surprising (from what I’ve seen) , a C2 from a middle schooler would make them a freak of nature, or they developed super quick
@@thebigbadbeanman I personally only know 1 kid in middle school who can hit an F2 but that's it.
18:13 chest?
Low chest voice from Geof more full of bass
it's called "subharmonics"
@@joshimmanueltureypurba6738 he still hit an e1 in chest which is basically impossible so i call that a win for chest but tim can hit lower only with growl
Josh Immanuel Turey Purba that’s not even related to what he said
watching this with bass boost, my ears are bleeding..
I hate how Ptx fans always say that Avi is the best when really, Tim has just as good of or an even better high range than Avi. And then Tim and Geoff both have Avi destroyed when it comes to low notes. Like Avi is good and all, but he’s not as good as these two guys
Also, I think the G#1 at 12:00 is growl, not chest.
The first and third G♯1 sound soft tone that usual growl note has, so he may sang it in growl, but the second G♯1 sounds more solid and chesty than others which I can’t think of him singing in growl.
Usually people sing all 3 notes in chest or growl, so I think he did it in chest voice.
Edit: The third note may be a growled one if he switched from chest to growl.
Yeah, I agree.
All those 3 G#1s were growls.
Actually, I found that his larynx goes down at the first G♯1, and moves back at second and third G♯1, so first one is chest and second and third one are possibly growled.
That G1 from tim isnt a chest its chest/fry mixed. Chest G1's sound like Geoff's
Eddie Teddie everyone resonance placement is different. Geoff has a very tall and open sound, because of his soft palate placement. Generalizations aren’t really realistic when talking body mechanics
Tim Foust - Most Versatile Bottom End
I'm not a bass and my highest is only G#4. They can sing higher than me and they're bass...
I really want to add Geoff's E♭5 and chest G♯4 from their newest video!!
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13:44 sounds weird, he tries to growl but doesn't get a note out of it, and then it's suddenly mega clear. Call me crazy but that might be chest...
I think he first starts at G2 in chest voice, and then flips to growl and sustains G1
@@hayatropical2659 i can hear that he starts at a g2, then he flips growl and slides down, but it just sounds like exhaling, but then suddenly it's a full note
@@herringhome Maybe it's because of the sounding system and the place where the cameraman records..
@@hayatropical2659 maybe... Maybe.
I know this video is on the older side, but I just wanted to share my piece on Tim’s sing off F1. If you watch the whole video, he sings F1 twice: the one in the middle that everyone has seen a million times, and one at the end of the song. The one at the end of the song is obviously a growl, but you can hear him attempt the note in chest before switching to growl, probably because he couldn’t sing it that quickly. That growl sounds nothing like the F1 in the middle: the one in the middle is very smooth and doesn’t have the breathy, edgy quality of a growl note. This leads me to believe that that note is in his chest range.
Would I be right in saying 13:18 is the lowest chest note Geoff has sung live?
Yes, as far as I searched, his lowest chest note in live is G♯1.
At 14:36 its actually home free's bass 1 that hits that G not Tim
Nah it’s tim
Tim foust all the way. Geoff gets louder as he gets deeper witch take away some of the effect
At extremely low note, Tim shines at using growl and Geoff shines at using subharmonic. Both are equally talented and good imo.
You missed the A0 in the chorus of Sold
Not produced by Tim
What is 7:14 from? What is the video title?
Tim Foust has an A0 at "Sold!", and his lowest chest note is F1, his F1 is not growl.
Jean Carlos LV His A0s in Sold! are actually A1s. You can tell it by raising the song an octave up.
And in my opinion, his F1 in sing off is sung in growl note, because it has smooth tone that growl note usually has.
@@hayatropical2659 Ok, sorry!
Jean Carlos LV yeah this is so fucked up
@hayatropical2 When you turn up the octave, the overtone covers the actual note. It would sound a lot different if it was an A1, so I think the note in Sold is indeed an A0.
It is. All Tim's notes under A1 are growls. It's pretty obvious for someone who knows something about the vocals and vocal techniques.
Which Tim’s song is 1:36?
18:19 Geoff’s lowest growl note is actually C#1
Tim Faust is hot hot hot
What’s the name of the song at 1:18?
Can someone please tell me
Synxtosix Bax Greensleeves. I think that video is on Peter Hollens channel
Hank__ Bk thank you I really appreciate it
6:05 low notes start
The F#1 Geoff did in the 21 pilot mashup was subharmonic not chest
They are correctly marked in this video
Some were chest, and others were subharmonic
@@matthewdockray9745 how are you gonna tell me
@@matthewdockray9745 the F#1 in the 21 pilot mashup isn't correctly marked
sama lama duma lamaa the ones at 16:50 are subharmonic, as marked in the video. The ones at 17:13 are chest, as correctly marked in the video
Prefer Tim's voice.
Look up and listen to: Land of the Free ( not the original by Tim Foust) with Home Free.
Tim’s lowest note is a G0, but that make not have happened when this video was made
It's indeed one of his lowest notes, but I didn't include it since it's a random fry note.
FYI Tim’s lowest growl note is a A0, check it out on their song “sold”
Geoff growl notes are very short... 🤔
He can't hold it that long. While Tim already mastered the growl technique and can go way lower. However, Tim can not do subharmonics (based on their songs/performances. But i'm really sure he can do that somehow. It's just not his thing and not suitable for country music. Geoff needs to growl sometimes although he can do it using subharmonics because he choose what sound fits to the song.
18:05 is actually Tim’s lowest chest note, how about researching other videos to see what they say
Other videos could be wrong?
Sounds nothing like his chest voice either
Matthew Dockray it sound too smooth to be girls though
7:48 song?
What Child Is This
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