@@GBrewner the main issue with the portals on a Can Am x3 is the steering... when the portals are done i added the epowersteering unit which I was told would fix the issue ( it helped a little but not nearly enough ) which is not enough steering force and that shows up when you're in 4x4 on the trail and you just don't have enough strength to deal with the feedback from the trail to the wheel... what I'm going for is full hydro steering so there is zero feedback to the wheel and that would also eliminate the steering rack all together... i do like the portals and what they do but there are some things you'll need to do and some maintenance issues you'll need to just deal with
Dirt Flix i was thinking of using the ZRP alternator but with a hydro pump instead,, i am also thinking of doing portals on my X3 and have Epower right now.. how were you gonna run the pump?
Which Castle nuts did you purchase? Where did you get them from? I called SuperATV and they said that their Castle Nut will not work with RCV Axles. I am going through the same problem right now. Just bought new RCV Pro Axles for my 2019 X3 on Gen 3 Portals. I can not finish reassemble until I get these little guys. Any help will be greatly appreciated!
Question for you. Not fit sure if you tried it or not, or even if you still can just to let me know. Will the stock beadlock rims work with the portals?
Ok good deal. I got my hands on a 2 seater x3 with same stock beadlocks you had with libertys. I wanted to keep the stock beadlocks because I think it will help with width some. I just wanted to double check with you to see if the stock beadlocks still had room over the portal rotors since there really a positive offset wheel.
They did springs in the clutch… while it doesn’t make the engine make more horsepower it gives you more usable horsepower from what’s there plus the engine can rev out another few hundred RPM which is where much of the horsepower comes from, The engine has not been touched but when they put it on the Dino it gets 25 more horsepower in the same test which I think the video shows… I just know there’s way more horsepower than somebody that rock crawls can ever use 🤪
@@ChrisLoomisDirtFlix i was aaking cuz i just had to get a new clutch so i went with goliman which is a cheap one and im only running 33inch tires and 18inch rims and i feel like im slow lol
@@lachyelmulatiko7435 Oh I hear ya well mine has got portals which reduces the gearing by 30% so I’m really slow mine is just solely for rock crawling I don’t think I’ve ever been over 45 miles an hour in it
So I enjoyed this but have what may be a dumb question. I’m new to SxS having bought a 2021 XDS , kept it for a month and traded it for a 2021 XRC which I love. So my dumb question is what is a portal? Did you just make it wider? I have an enclosed car trailer and mine just fits as is. I can’t imagine going wider I’d not be able to take it anywhere.
there's no reason to do portals unless you are hard core into rock crawling... a portal lifts you up while keeping the suspension basically stock and it acts like a low geared rear end in a jeep ( it'll reduce your gearing by either 15% or 30% and really no rock crawler wants 15% ) and now mine is 87" wide so i have a deck over trailer that the deck is 102" wide, it works very awesome but it's going to cost so much to do it that you'll regret starting the project... you can look at my last video and see what it does... if you're still here reading and are interested in doing it i can tell you everything to avoid ( since i made every stinking mistake possible ) and now it works perfect and i love it...
@@ChrisLoomisDirtFlix I have a can am 64"DS RR I want to use for rock and want to put 35 zillas on it but every reach has shown portals are great except they create steering issue, either to hard to steer or move the brackets and cut your turning radius,
Charles Rager Absolutely not, it depends on what kind of rock crawling you want to do do you want to do stuff the size of bowling balls or 4 feet tall, I can tell you that we lost 15 miles an hour off of top end but I don’t care about top end speed I know it sounds strange but I rarely get over 40 mph
Thanks for the information. I do a lot of riding at windrock in Tennessee. It's real slow pace, but I'm local to some riding areas, and just wanted to make sure I could hit 60-70mph on the road sometimes. But I do mostly slow intense rocky trails. I plan on running same tires as you too. I was just afraid 15% wouldn't be low enough.
I'm bout to pull the trigger on the portals. Your steering issues scare me some, but my machine is a 64" max x3. It should be same with as yours factory or close to it. Do you think the steering will be fine on 64" machine
@@charlesrager2228 Mine started as a 72" car but if i were you just prepare yourself that you may have to do the full hydro steering which is being installed on mine right now... just assume it and it's about $3,500 for the full hydro setup and they install it... oh and make sure you do the frame stiffener and front bulkhead, this is going to be needed... i went through $10,000 in repairs and rework because i just didn't know which was way more than doing it the way it is now... just my opinion
Question for you....with the new portals installed and everything re-assembled, what is the overall width of the buggy now? Outside tire to outside tire width? I want to do this with mine but I can't exceed 80" total overall width.
It's 87" now, but I've heard that 82" is the least it could be... is the 80" because of a trailer or something else? and and are you ready for the steering issue's?
@@ChrisLoomisDirtFlix ... Yes I am on Facebook. And the reason I can't exceed 80" is because I load this on a flatbed on the back of our truck when hauling to remote areas. So are you saying that with the portals there are steering issues?
@@mikemurphy9953 Oh yea, I can only speak to the issues on an x3 because that's what i have but I've heard from several people with different brands and the story is the same and it ranges from it's really hard to steer to ( in my case ) it's a total nightmare , if you go forward and depending on the build and tires you will have the full range from really hard to total nightmare ... and I'm willing to talk with you if you need to know the mistakes i made and the steering resolution... if you send by a fb friend request
@@mikemurphy9953 Oh yea, I can only speak to the issues on an x3 because that's what i have but I've heard from several people with different brands and the story is the same and it ranges from it's really hard to steer to ( in my case ) it's a total nightmare , if you go forward and depending on the build and tires you will have the full range from really hard to total nightmare ... and I'm willing to talk with you if you need to know the mistakes i made and the steering resolution... if you send by a fb friend request
well I've got to say it got much more difficult so i did some research and found a higher power steering motor so we did that and it didn't help as much as i was lead to believe ( but it did help a little ) and now there is a guy that is experimenting with a modified steering bracket that gives more leverage and it should also help some and then i have been speaking with a gentleman in Arkansas that has made a full hydro option as well as a hydro assist option and I'm positive that'll fix the issue... but I've got to say it's hard to deny the ride and performance gain with the portals but if you're not willing to go all in then I'd say don't do it
they are 30% reduction and i use hi range unless I'm on the rocks then low is the way to go... and they are really low, kinda seems like about 10 to 15 mph is about as fast as you'd want to go in low range... i think it's great
@@ChrisLoomisDirtFlix I hope you have better luck with them, I run a mix of rocky trails, some mud and sand and I destroyed 2 had to buy 2 more, anyways I ended up with 6 tires and only 5 held air lol, waiting for warranty now
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87” wide damn! I want to build a portal machine but I think I’ll start with a 64” width and hopefully end up roughly 80”. Definitely a badass machine.
Jay P Thanks... it’s definitely fun
The portals on our 64 put it to about 73
Cool video man! Nice rig! The X3 XRC is my favorite factory SXS on the market.
Thanks Zach
@@ChrisLoomisDirtFlix no problem buddy!
This thing is crazy, it looks like even 37s would fit.Have fun on the rocks
i'd love to do 37's or 40's i'm just dealing with steering issues that need to be resolved
@@ChrisLoomisDirtFlix Issues related to the portals? Can you elaborate? Considering portals for mine.
@@GBrewner the main issue with the portals on a Can Am x3 is the steering... when the portals are done i added the epowersteering unit which I was told would fix the issue ( it helped a little but not nearly enough ) which is not enough steering force and that shows up when you're in 4x4 on the trail and you just don't have enough strength to deal with the feedback from the trail to the wheel... what I'm going for is full hydro steering so there is zero feedback to the wheel and that would also eliminate the steering rack all together...
i do like the portals and what they do but there are some things you'll need to do and some maintenance issues you'll need to just deal with
Dirt Flix i was thinking of using the ZRP alternator but with a hydro pump instead,, i am also thinking of doing portals on my X3 and have Epower right now.. how were you gonna run the pump?
Killed THE RC
Which Castle nuts did you purchase? Where did you get them from? I called SuperATV and they said that their Castle Nut will not work with RCV Axles. I am going through the same problem right now. Just bought new RCV Pro Axles for my 2019 X3 on Gen 3 Portals. I can not finish reassemble until I get these little guys. Any help will be greatly appreciated!
I got mine from super ATV plus I also found out that you can get them from RCV’s also but the ones I got came from super ATV
Question for you. Not fit sure if you tried it or not, or even if you still can just to let me know. Will the stock beadlock rims work with the portals?
yes they will... those are stock size i was just going for a little different look
Ok good deal. I got my hands on a 2 seater x3 with same stock beadlocks you had with libertys. I wanted to keep the stock beadlocks because I think it will help with width some. I just wanted to double check with you to see if the stock beadlocks still had room over the portal rotors since there really a positive offset wheel.
Holy cow that's awesome
Thanks much
What size portals are you running
Those are the 4" 30% reduction portals
So what was done to that clutch so it makes more horse power, i would like info and do you have a tunner aswell
They did springs in the clutch… while it doesn’t make the engine make more horsepower it gives you more usable horsepower from what’s there plus the engine can rev out another few hundred RPM which is where much of the horsepower comes from, The engine has not been touched but when they put it on the Dino it gets 25 more horsepower in the same test which I think the video shows… I just know there’s way more horsepower than somebody that rock crawls can ever use 🤪
@@ChrisLoomisDirtFlix i was aaking cuz i just had to get a new clutch so i went with goliman which is a cheap one and im only running 33inch tires and 18inch rims and i feel like im slow lol
@@lachyelmulatiko7435 Oh I hear ya well mine has got portals which reduces the gearing by 30% so I’m really slow mine is just solely for rock crawling I don’t think I’ve ever been over 45 miles an hour in it
Hi!
Which gear reduction you choose: 15% or 30% ?
Volodymyr I have the 30% which is perfect but when I got it the 15% did not exist
@@ChrisLoomisDirtFlix Hi
Thank you
But, if you choose right now: which ratio you will be prefer?
@@volodymyr6909 without a doubt i would do the 30%
So I enjoyed this but have what may be a dumb question. I’m new to SxS having bought a 2021 XDS , kept it for a month and traded it for a 2021 XRC which I love. So my dumb question is what is a portal? Did you just make it wider? I have an enclosed car trailer and mine just fits as is. I can’t imagine going wider I’d not be able to take it anywhere.
there's no reason to do portals unless you are hard core into rock crawling... a portal lifts you up while keeping the suspension basically stock and it acts like a low geared rear end in a jeep ( it'll reduce your gearing by either 15% or 30% and really no rock crawler wants 15% ) and now mine is 87" wide so i have a deck over trailer that the deck is 102" wide, it works very awesome but it's going to cost so much to do it that you'll regret starting the project... you can look at my last video and see what it does... if you're still here reading and are interested in doing it i can tell you everything to avoid ( since i made every stinking mistake possible ) and now it works perfect and i love it...
Wow, tyvm for the complete explanation. Much appreciated.
Did you ever get the steering issue fixed?
yep sure did... it's now full hydro and works awesome
@@ChrisLoomisDirtFlix I have a can am 64"DS RR I want to use for rock and want to put 35 zillas on it but every reach has shown portals are great except they create steering issue, either to hard to steer or move the brackets and cut your turning radius,
where did you get your steering systems?
@@scottwray663 Look up on Facebook the name Ross Pilgreen He’s the guy who fixed mine and it was awesome
@@scottwray663 Give him my name and tell him I sent you I am chris loomis
If you had to do over. Would you get the 15%? I'm just curious because I don't want to totally kill my top speed but crawl rocks too
Charles Rager Absolutely not, it depends on what kind of rock crawling you want to do do you want to do stuff the size of bowling balls or 4 feet tall, I can tell you that we lost 15 miles an hour off of top end but I don’t care about top end speed I know it sounds strange but I rarely get over 40 mph
Thanks for the information. I do a lot of riding at windrock in Tennessee. It's real slow pace, but I'm local to some riding areas, and just wanted to make sure I could hit 60-70mph on the road sometimes. But I do mostly slow intense rocky trails. I plan on running same tires as you too. I was just afraid 15% wouldn't be low enough.
@@charlesrager2228 Cool, I've never been there but everyone tells me I'm way to wide for the trails ... so fyi mine is 87" wide just s you are aware
I'm bout to pull the trigger on the portals. Your steering issues scare me some, but my machine is a 64" max x3. It should be same with as yours factory or close to it. Do you think the steering will be fine on 64" machine
@@charlesrager2228 Mine started as a 72" car but if i were you just prepare yourself that you may have to do the full hydro steering which is being installed on mine right now... just assume it and it's about $3,500 for the full hydro setup and they install it... oh and make sure you do the frame stiffener and front bulkhead, this is going to be needed... i went through $10,000 in repairs and rework because i just didn't know which was way more than doing it the way it is now... just my opinion
My name is Darcy Remmick I just want to let you know that’s a great X.3 beast
Darcy Awww thanks for saying so
How much wider was the machine with the portals?
it started out at 72" stock and is now 87"
Question for you....with the new portals installed and everything re-assembled, what is the overall width of the buggy now? Outside tire to outside tire width? I want to do this with mine but I can't exceed 80" total overall width.
It's 87" now, but I've heard that 82" is the least it could be... is the 80" because of a trailer or something else? and and are you ready for the steering issue's?
Are you on fb
@@ChrisLoomisDirtFlix ... Yes I am on Facebook. And the reason I can't exceed 80" is because I load this on a flatbed on the back of our truck when hauling to remote areas. So are you saying that with the portals there are steering issues?
@@mikemurphy9953 Oh yea, I can only speak to the issues on an x3 because that's what i have but I've heard from several people with different brands and the story is the same and it ranges from it's really hard to steer to ( in my case ) it's a total nightmare , if you go forward and depending on the build and tires you will have the full range from really hard to total nightmare ... and I'm willing to talk with you if you need to know the mistakes i made and the steering resolution... if you send by a fb friend request
@@mikemurphy9953 Oh yea, I can only speak to the issues on an x3 because that's what i have but I've heard from several people with different brands and the story is the same and it ranges from it's really hard to steer to ( in my case ) it's a total nightmare , if you go forward and depending on the build and tires you will have the full range from really hard to total nightmare ... and I'm willing to talk with you if you need to know the mistakes i made and the steering resolution... if you send by a fb friend request
Sweet!
Thanks :)
I hear everyone complain about the steering on the X3 with portals. What are your thoughts on it?
well I've got to say it got much more difficult so i did some research and found a higher power steering motor so we did that and it didn't help as much as i was lead to believe ( but it did help a little ) and now there is a guy that is experimenting with a modified steering bracket that gives more leverage and it should also help some and then i have been speaking with a gentleman in Arkansas that has made a full hydro option as well as a hydro assist option and I'm positive that'll fix the issue... but I've got to say it's hard to deny the ride and performance gain with the portals but if you're not willing to go all in then I'd say don't do it
How tall are the tires actually? And what was the weight of just the tire?
Chad Roberts They actually measure out at 35 inches
What % portal gear reduction did you choose and are you in high or low range when crawling?
they are 30% reduction and i use hi range unless I'm on the rocks then low is the way to go... and they are really low, kinda seems like about 10 to 15 mph is about as fast as you'd want to go in low range... i think it's great
Figataaaaaa
Looks awesome! But those tires are horrible, about as tough as 1 ply tp lol
this is a rock rig only and they are the best and softest tires i have found... nothing out there with better grip
@@ChrisLoomisDirtFlix I hope you have better luck with them, I run a mix of rocky trails, some mud and sand and I destroyed 2 had to buy 2 more, anyways I ended up with 6 tires and only 5 held air lol, waiting for warranty now
@@collinmorgan20 i hear ya, i have 6 and so far so good after 1 season, the grip is just to good to pass up
good video
Thanks much
♿🇨🇴🤑🤑🤑🤑😞😞mucho money es injusto
I love when these type of guys try to get more hp out of their UTV’s, and then just put it in low gear for rock crawling 🤣🤣. Literally pointless.
Ride Catch I had my clutch worked and I happen to pick up 25 hp I didn’t do anything to the engine