Frederic Rzewski - The People United Will Never Be Defeated (Hamelin)

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  • Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024

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  • @1evonvielen
    @1evonvielen 2 года назад +167

    people are as different as these variations - still they all follow the same theme and therefore they are united and will never be defeated. what a great piece of music

  • @keithtomlinson1280
    @keithtomlinson1280 6 месяцев назад +28

    I first heard these many years ago in a small room in Huddersfield (not long after they were written) performed by Rzewski himself. An experience I will never forget. When the recording (Ursula Oppens) came out it did not leave my turntable for a week. A magnificent piece. Rzewski is one of the great composers of our time. Greatly missed. RIP

  • @stvp68
    @stvp68 3 месяца назад +5

    My professor played this for us back in 1988 and the tune has stayed with me ever since-wow!

  • @JG_1998
    @JG_1998 2 года назад +75

    The improvised cadenza is insane! Hamelin is a real musician, not just a super virtuoso.

    • @__-fu5se
      @__-fu5se Год назад +1

      Is it entirely improvised, as in, live without prior preparation? Otherwise my understanding was that cadenzas could be otherwise thought-out by the performer and written into score for later performance.

    • @davcaslop
      @davcaslop Год назад +2

      @@__-fu5se don’t know if it was improvised, but it seems to just by listening to it. In any case, if we assume he followed the score, it says that the cadenza has to be improvised. Insane either way😮

    • @nigelhaywood9753
      @nigelhaywood9753 Год назад +1

      @@__-fu5se Almost definitely worked out beforehand, I mean it makes sense. But the freedom is there to improvise it if you feel confident enough, some people would.

    • @supasayajinsongoku4464
      @supasayajinsongoku4464 Год назад

      kinda unrelated but whats the most exciting piano piece you've heard this year?

    • @adoser93
      @adoser93 Год назад +3

      @@__-fu5se Can't confirm there was no prep or at least multiple takes but in his live performance the cadenza is completely different: Would ruclips.net/video/_OBeb694QII/видео.html&ab_channel=AprilYu

  • @vaclavmiller8032
    @vaclavmiller8032 3 года назад +37

    RIP a great artist

  • @wonderfalls2
    @wonderfalls2 9 месяцев назад +12

    That sudden black screen at the end of the video was just perfect. What a wild ride this piece is.

  • @feinbird9161
    @feinbird9161 3 года назад +90

    Dude, you did an amazing work. RIP Frederic Rzewski.

  • @minikawildflower
    @minikawildflower Год назад +39

    Hamelin's cadenza is WILD, it's amazing how much he captures Rzewski's sound. It doesn't just sound like an amazing pianist shredding, he's truly improvising on some of the super complex ideas in the piece, it's so far beyond what even some great improvisers could do!

    • @__-fu5se
      @__-fu5se Год назад +4

      He also has an amazing piano-player piece called 'circus gallop' which is quiet enjoyable even if it requires post-human playing capabilities. It only makes me wonder why mr. Hamelin doesn't compose music of his own since he clearly is very capable of it.

    • @Jan-fz3zf
      @Jan-fz3zf Год назад +11

      @@__-fu5se He does compose music of his own: see his etudes!

    • @tommasozucol4160
      @tommasozucol4160 Год назад +8

      @@__-fu5se some of his compositions:
      12 etudes in all the minor keys
      Pavane variée
      Variations on a theme of Paganini
      My feelings about chocolate
      Etude no.1 (bumblebee)
      Nokia waltz
      Cadenza for Hungarian rhapsody no.2
      Minute waltz in seconds
      Cathy's variations
      Circus galop
      Corale transcription
      Toccata l'homme armée

    • @arno_grnfld455
      @arno_grnfld455 Год назад +3

      @@tommasozucol4160 godowsky study no44a (incomplete) i think, completed by Hamelin

    • @tommasozucol4160
      @tommasozucol4160 Год назад +1

      @@arno_grnfld455 thanks!!! Didn't know about that one

  • @dreamsdreams9493
    @dreamsdreams9493 2 года назад +89

    In my view, these are the greatest piano variations ever written (Godowsky's variations on a theme by Schubert deserve silver medal). The composer was a civic-minded man who rose his voice against tyranny.

    • @jackcurley1591
      @jackcurley1591 2 года назад +15

      I think it’s tough to definitively say what the best variations ever are, but I do feel confident saying that these, Godowsky’s Passacaglia, the Goldberg variations and the Diabelli variations are the gold standards. They stand in a class of their own compared to all the others. Also, it’s incredible how politically relevant this piece is today 🇺🇦

    • @dreamsdreams9493
      @dreamsdreams9493 2 года назад +10

      @@jackcurley1591
      Don't forget Brahms' Handel Variations and Reger's Bach Variations.

    • @jackcurley1591
      @jackcurley1591 2 года назад +6

      @@dreamsdreams9493 Yes, the Reger variations are great too, but I actually think I like Brahms' Paganini variations the best out of his several sets. I suppose I also neglected the Schumann Ghost Variations - those are so tragic but touching and charming at the same time

    • @notmusictheory74
      @notmusictheory74 2 года назад +11

      Don’t forget Sorabji’s Sequentia Cyclica! Though this one indeed has more meaning behind it

    • @pjimenez08
      @pjimenez08 2 года назад

      I can certainly tell you I don't agree with that view.

  • @jamesclapperton904
    @jamesclapperton904 Год назад +8

    I knew Frederic when I was a student at the State University of Buffalo. He was teaching composition there and I was studying piano with Yvar Mikhashoff. He was an extraordinarily gifted musician and fabulous company. Great sense of humour.

  • @benharmonics
    @benharmonics Год назад +18

    Part 1
    0:16 theme
    13:34 variation 13
    Part 2
    22:48 variation 19
    30:21 variation 26
    31:28 variation 27
    37:02 variation 28
    Ending
    48:09 Hamelin’s cadenza
    54:32 theme returns
    55:51 coda

  • @christophedevos3760
    @christophedevos3760 Год назад +9

    It is a flabbergasting, spellbinding work, floating between Keith Jarrett's 'Köln Concerto',Rachmaninov and Shostakovitch' piano works and Henri Pousseur-(who was a huge admirer of this work)-like avant garde. And Hamelin is of course amazing, the piano almost exploding in his own cadenza.

  • @christianvennemann9008
    @christianvennemann9008 7 месяцев назад +5

    I love that tiny fugal section at 37:32

  • @johannesbluemink4581
    @johannesbluemink4581 Год назад +5

    Dave Hurwitz mentioned this in '10 Masterpieces of the late 20th Century'. Wow, was he spot-on! From the very first note, my jaw dropped a few inches, haha. Wonderful!

  • @CH3CH2OCH2CH3net
    @CH3CH2OCH2CH3net 2 года назад +41

    I agree: these variations belong in the pantheon of "greatest sets of variations". You mentioned the Bach Goldberg and the Beethoven Diabelli variations; I would include Schumann's "Symphonic Variations", op. 13, Brahms' "Variations on a Theme of Handel" and his two books of Paganini Variations, the Copland Variations and Rachmaninov's "Rhapsody on a Theme of Paganini". A developing composer would really benefit from studying Rzewski's variations to learn how to bring out maximum tonal color from a piano.
    There is a person on RUclips who absolutely *worships* the music of Sorabji. While taking nothing away from anyone who can actually play Sorabji, I would argue that Rzewski is *far and away* better music, and every bit as difficult to play as Sorabji.

    • @dreamsdreams9493
      @dreamsdreams9493 2 года назад +2

      In my view, only Godowsky's variations on a theme by Schubert come close to these master variations.

    • @segmentsAndCurves
      @segmentsAndCurves 2 года назад

      @@dreamsdreams9493 I beg to differ.

    • @segmentsAndCurves
      @segmentsAndCurves 2 года назад +7

      That Sorabji roast -_-

    • @patricknyman727
      @patricknyman727 2 года назад +15

      Lmao you’re talking about toothless toe aren’t you. He knows how to get under people’s skin. I also wouldn’t forget about Alkan’s variation (Le Festin)

    • @danielthonk7481
      @danielthonk7481 2 года назад

      @@patricknyman727 who is he?

  • @singtatsucgc3247
    @singtatsucgc3247 2 года назад +7

    This is the best version, better than the ones recorded by the composer himself.
    RIP Rzewski

  • @robertwarwick3294
    @robertwarwick3294 Год назад +6

    20th century masterpiece, I hope your posting will be a discovery for music lovers and pianists alike.
    I had a Wigmore Hall ticket to see Hamelin play it three years ago which was cancelled because of covid, I was gutted!

    • @sucroseboy4940
      @sucroseboy4940 Год назад +2

      That’s so terrible to hear! I hope that one day you will have another chance to hear this work performed live!

    • @robertwarwick3294
      @robertwarwick3294 Год назад +2

      Thank you, I hope so too!

  • @stefanodigarbo4735
    @stefanodigarbo4735 2 года назад +12

    The Dream Theater variation XXVII is pure genius!

    • @supasayajinsongoku4464
      @supasayajinsongoku4464 Год назад +1

      kinda unrelated but whats the most exciting piano piece you've heard this year?

    • @_TheNoobPlayer
      @_TheNoobPlayer 7 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@supasayajinsongoku4464deez nuts

  • @tatsuhelma
    @tatsuhelma Год назад +2

    One of the greatest pieces that represents 20th century music

    • @supasayajinsongoku4464
      @supasayajinsongoku4464 Год назад

      kinda unrelated but whats the most exciting piano piece you've heard this year?

  • @canticle56
    @canticle56 Год назад +1

    Hamelin is an amazing pianist. I love this work and he does it Justice.

    • @supasayajinsongoku4464
      @supasayajinsongoku4464 Год назад

      kinda unrelated but whats the most exciting piano piece you've heard this year?

  • @francobosio7018
    @francobosio7018 4 месяца назад +1

    Grande bellissima opera. Grazie

  • @zewensenpai
    @zewensenpai 3 года назад +8

    Frederic Rzewski - The People United Will Never Be Defeated (Hamelin)

  • @CharlioXD
    @CharlioXD 2 года назад +4

    That cut to black on the last chord is just perfect. Amazing work.

  • @sorabjiorchestralmusic
    @sorabjiorchestralmusic 4 месяца назад

    There's an eye(ear)opener, what a fantastic piece and performance. Thank you.

  • @christianvennemann9008
    @christianvennemann9008 Год назад +6

    24:17 reminds me of the opening of Grieg's Piano Concerto

    • @supasayajinsongoku4464
      @supasayajinsongoku4464 Год назад +2

      kinda unrelated but whats the most exciting piano piece you've heard this year?

    • @christianvennemann9008
      @christianvennemann9008 Год назад +1

      @@supasayajinsongoku4464 I know this is kind of a go-to answer for classical piano enthusiasts, but Prokofiev's Piano Concerto No. 3 because of the vigorous coda

  • @freddiehoogewerf3328
    @freddiehoogewerf3328 2 года назад +19

    You have no idea how much I appreciate this upload, and it's hamelin, which is even better. Thank you!

  • @jackcurley1591
    @jackcurley1591 2 года назад +5

    What a great recording of what is one of (if not the) best compositions of the 20th century. Thanks a ton for this upload, Hamelin is amazing (as usual); and RIP Rzewski, he had an incredibly inventive and poignant mind!!!

  • @loicboucher-dubuc4563
    @loicboucher-dubuc4563 2 года назад +7

    22:22 autumn leaves

  • @fredericfrancoischopin6971
    @fredericfrancoischopin6971 2 года назад +3

    Oh shit, This is AWESOME
    RIP great composer

  • @parkmusic98
    @parkmusic98 2 года назад +1

    About 10 years ago, there was same video that were splited in 6~7 parts and were made by T.K.. I'm so happy because of this merged video.

  • @ronl7131
    @ronl7131 4 месяца назад

    Interesting Sound World. Glad to hear this. Like others, I first heard U Oppens’ recording of work.

  • @sgut1947
    @sgut1947 2 года назад +5

    Big thank you for uploading this with score -- a very big undertaking. I'm lost for words, both for the music and for Hamlin's superhuman performance.

  • @lolllololllo
    @lolllololllo 2 года назад +3

    56:38 I've never heard a climax more... climatic than this one.

  • @leecherlarry
    @leecherlarry 3 года назад +7

    rip

  • @adam4n1um
    @adam4n1um Год назад +5

    Truly incredible stuff...I've been listening to this over and over again. If you had to choose a portion of these variations for a performance and didn't have time (or the ability perhaps) to learn all of them---which would you pick? I'm finding it very difficult to keep the list down. They are all so fantastic

  • @Juscz
    @Juscz 2 года назад +8

    My first time hearing this composition. That was INCREDIBLE! Thank you for sharing! Truly a classic and beautiful set of piano variations right up there with Bach's Goldberg Variations and Beethoven's Diabelli Variations.

    • @supasayajinsongoku4464
      @supasayajinsongoku4464 14 дней назад +1

      they are miles better if we were to put them side by side and ask an honest question, "which is a better, more representative art?" However, most people will prefer the former as it dosent confront nearly as many different styles as this piece so brilliantly does, so one can understand why people would rather something else other then what this piece offers, but as i have said before, there is no doubt this is better art

  • @eustachiusvonackertiban1958
    @eustachiusvonackertiban1958 2 года назад +3

    VAR 1 reminds my of Weberns „Variation for Piano“ 3. Part

  • @BaileyPhillipsComposer
    @BaileyPhillipsComposer 8 месяцев назад +2

    00:16 Theme: With determination
    01:37 Var. I Weaving, delicate but firm
    02:28 Var. II With firmness
    09:33 Var. IX Evenly
    13:34 Var. XIII q = 72
    30:21 Var. XXVI In a militant manner
    32:39 Var. XXVII Tenderly, and with a hopeful expression [Cadenza]
    37:02 Var. XXVIII q = 160
    38:21 Var. XXIX q = 144-152
    41:32 Var. XXXI (q = 160)
    54:32 Theme

  • @jean-pierreboudine720
    @jean-pierreboudine720 Год назад +1

    C'est une œuvre MAJEURE, trop peu jouée, Merci Hamelin ! Cela me fait penser que les compositeurs sont faignants , au regard de Rzewski ! Et les pianistes de même, en comparaison de Hamelin ! Quelle beauté, quelle imagination !

  • @CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji
    @CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji 2 года назад +3

    Based

  • @WeiChin-oj7jr
    @WeiChin-oj7jr Год назад

    We all die together. We all live together.

  • @evifnoskcaj
    @evifnoskcaj Год назад +1

    Hamelin and Rzewski is a match made in heaven. Also, that cluster chord in your profile pic makes me hot. 😂 Thanks for sharing this!

  • @sfopera
    @sfopera 5 месяцев назад

    Stunning and very interesting. My don't more pianists include at least some of these in their recitals?

  • @AsrielKujo
    @AsrielKujo 3 года назад +13

    Var 13 is probably my favorite, amazing harmonic rearrangement...really beautiful!
    18 is also very interesting!
    and 27 minimalism xD, very cute

  • @ianmoore5502
    @ianmoore5502 2 года назад

    The transition from var 17 to 18 was stuuuupidly smooth. Wow.

  • @LucTaMusic
    @LucTaMusic 6 месяцев назад

    Monumental! I wonder if variations 27 or 29 inspired any of Yoshimatsu's Pleiades Dances...

  • @StanislasP
    @StanislasP Год назад

    The beginning and main theme is a melody from polish prewar Drunken Tango ("Piłem, kto mówi że nie piłem? Butelkę wytrąbiłem!" - I drank, who says I didn't? All bottle!) with melody from "Esta noche me emborracho". Very usefull for unification and solidarity.

  • @TempodiPiano
    @TempodiPiano 2 года назад

    Fantastic, with a good number of climaxes

  • @mariadoloresvidalpianista3225
    @mariadoloresvidalpianista3225 Год назад +1

    Interesting channel!

  • @lazu_
    @lazu_ Год назад

    Amazing

  • @commentingchannel9776
    @commentingchannel9776 Год назад +3

    What the 🅱️oulez is Variation 10
    I swear there are even some quotes to him

  • @arno_grnfld455
    @arno_grnfld455 Год назад +1

    Rzewski is as good as if not even better than godowsky, the two polish legends, RIP Rzewski

  • @SPscorevideos
    @SPscorevideos 3 года назад +13

    This recording is doomed, set this video as unlisted before they take down your channel!

    • @joshscores3360
      @joshscores3360 3 года назад

      No, private it

    • @SPscorevideos
      @SPscorevideos 3 года назад +2

      @@joshscores3360 Yeah, you're probably right, caution is never too much...

    • @scriabinismydog2439
      @scriabinismydog2439  3 года назад +11

      I'll take the risk temporarily; I'll eventually unlist or private it after some days

    • @SPscorevideos
      @SPscorevideos 3 года назад +2

      @@scriabinismydog2439 I hope for you that there will be enough days....

    • @WEEBLLOM
      @WEEBLLOM 3 года назад +4

      @@scriabinismydog2439 s o m e d a y s

  • @nigelhaywood9753
    @nigelhaywood9753 Год назад

    Is it my imagination or does the pianist make a passing reference to 'Wish I could be like David Watts' during the cadenza?

  • @zswu31416
    @zswu31416 Год назад +2

    I'm practicing this and my family does not like the piece... How do I convince them otherwise?

    • @advikthepianokid4583
      @advikthepianokid4583 Год назад +1

      I see you on literally every video, even your own channel. I am just surprised how you and I seem to visit the same videos?! Oh and for your question…just make them listen again and again or give up.

    • @RanBlakePiano
      @RanBlakePiano 2 месяца назад

      Persist with vacations !

  • @jtchapman01
    @jtchapman01 2 месяца назад

    any piece recommendations that sound mostly like the 13th variation?

    • @imdarealani
      @imdarealani Месяц назад

      A lot of William Bolcom works are kind of like that. Maybe try the Bagatelles.

  • @ZewenShifu
    @ZewenShifu 3 месяца назад +1

    giga based

    • @Dichweed
      @Dichweed Месяц назад

      Do you have anything valuable to comment or do you just spam "based" on every video you click on

  • @Paganini-Liszt
    @Paganini-Liszt 8 месяцев назад +1

    45:40 Holy

  • @juanchacon8846
    @juanchacon8846 2 года назад

    The theme sounds like the coda from the first movement of Beethoven's 9th

  • @etiennedauphin
    @etiennedauphin 2 года назад

    Var. X is akin to any great painting by Jean-Paul Riopelle : calculated, precise and very violent.

  • @JohannesBruhms
    @JohannesBruhms 2 года назад +5

    Maybe I'm not familiar with this kind of modern music yet.
    I can't understand var.10.

    • @GUILLOM
      @GUILLOM 2 года назад +4

      You haven't listened to var. 13 then

    • @cadenzalien4554
      @cadenzalien4554 2 года назад +3

      Var. 10 fucking slaps

    • @nikitalvov40
      @nikitalvov40 2 года назад +3

      Yo var 10 is a banger

    • @javascriptkiddie2718
      @javascriptkiddie2718 11 месяцев назад

      sounds like my puppy trying to get the lunch I left on the lid of piano.

  • @alcyonecrucis
    @alcyonecrucis 2 года назад +4

    How did he ever write all this down...

    • @ericrakestraw664
      @ericrakestraw664 2 года назад +5

      With a pencil and music paper, I presume. ;)

  • @arno_grnfld455
    @arno_grnfld455 Год назад +1

    Is anyone able to transcribe the Hamelin cadenza?

  • @collinm.4652
    @collinm.4652 5 месяцев назад

    37:38 epic win

  • @skfovbk
    @skfovbk 5 месяцев назад

    Hamelin's rendition is significantly better than Oppens' rendition. He just had better overall control. (You can get an idea from Var 27)

  • @williamhornabrook8081
    @williamhornabrook8081 8 месяцев назад

    Anyone up for transcribing the cadenza for us?

  • @danielthonk7481
    @danielthonk7481 2 года назад +2

    how does he play var 23 like that

  • @handledav
    @handledav 5 месяцев назад +1

    never

  • @Contrapunctus1984
    @Contrapunctus1984 2 года назад +2

    Ok Guys can I ask in the Superchat where are the fugues and the Giant Steps?

  • @yannickm5237
    @yannickm5237 Год назад

    Var 27 + 28 !!!

  • @federicolegrand863
    @federicolegrand863 Год назад

    Where the hell pedal goes! Help I need somebody help 😭

  • @DunkinTunic
    @DunkinTunic День назад

    Lopez Sandra Young Gary Anderson Richard

  • @user-gi6lk7sb8b
    @user-gi6lk7sb8b 2 года назад +1

    26:44

  • @imdarealani
    @imdarealani Год назад +1

    35:54

  • @studioscienzacultura
    @studioscienzacultura 24 дня назад

    Molto lunghe ma belle.

  • @minakhan-c4m
    @minakhan-c4m 15 дней назад

    Thomas Donald Martin Brian Harris Kenneth

  • @thmsrttg
    @thmsrttg 5 месяцев назад

    34:48
    37:59

  • @марияагафоник
    @марияагафоник 2 дня назад

    Thompson Sharon Clark Patricia Walker Deborah

  • @user-ss8es8gl6w
    @user-ss8es8gl6w 2 года назад

    13:35

  • @LloydBates-t6x
    @LloydBates-t6x 5 дней назад

    Allen Deborah Williams Donald Taylor Elizabeth

  • @ChAlkan
    @ChAlkan 4 месяца назад

    Var. 10 = Stockhausen

  • @sanfayyaad
    @sanfayyaad 9 месяцев назад

    I’m having trouble understanding why this is a good piece. Can someone give their opinions as to why it is?

    • @WEEBLLOM
      @WEEBLLOM 7 месяцев назад +2

      It sounds cool :D

  • @handledav
    @handledav 8 месяцев назад +1

    do

  • @thaddeusdubois6209
    @thaddeusdubois6209 3 года назад +2

    Obvious he learned a lot of variation techniques from Beethoven

  • @Real_Scriabin_Official
    @Real_Scriabin_Official Год назад

    dude, I offended by that name

  • @supasayajinsongoku4464
    @supasayajinsongoku4464 2 года назад

    Why did people say this was the greatest work in piano literature

    • @segmentsAndCurves
      @segmentsAndCurves 2 года назад +4

      one of the greatest i guess, it's big and good

    • @supasayajinsongoku4464
      @supasayajinsongoku4464 2 года назад

      @@segmentsAndCurves whats the most enjoyable piece in your opinion. Im kinda bored but im too lazy to find good pieces pls help suggest

    • @mysterium364
      @mysterium364 Год назад

      @@supasayajinsongoku4464 Scriabin Sonata 8 is good. Protopopv sonata 3 is good. Feinberg sonata 3 is good. Anything on the MusicForever60 channel is good.

    • @nikitalvov40
      @nikitalvov40 Год назад +5

      Well, I has incredibly unique form, also unique harmonic language, really developed texture and such.
      Imho it's one of the best variation pieces there are

    • @supasayajinsongoku4464
      @supasayajinsongoku4464 Год назад

      @@nikitalvov40 chopin op2 variations tho?

  • @benderbnyramacey7093
    @benderbnyramacey7093 2 дня назад

    White Lisa Rodriguez Robert Lee Karen

  • @skfovbk
    @skfovbk Год назад

    best piano variation in my opinion personally don't quite like hamelin's cadenza though, too far away from the mood

  • @user-jh1ty3dk7m
    @user-jh1ty3dk7m 2 года назад

    음역 갇히지 않은것 보기

  • @RozarSmacco
    @RozarSmacco Год назад

    Defeated? They sure were in 2020

    • @imdarealani
      @imdarealani Год назад +2

      I don't think the pandemic really united us much. With the whole mask vs no-mask and vaccine vs antivaxx stuff, we only got pulled farther apart.
      Unless you are referring to something else?

  • @LouisHernandez-u1j
    @LouisHernandez-u1j 2 дня назад

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