The Car Toyota Were Afraid to Build: I Drive a 320HP 3.5L V6 MR2

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  • @JayEmmOnCars
    @JayEmmOnCars  24 дня назад +1

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    • @cmhidalgo
      @cmhidalgo 17 дней назад +1

      They didn't have a 3.5l 2gr v6 til 2005. Sw20 mr2 was 90 to 99. The 3sgte i4 made 260ish hp in 99. I believe the 1mz 3.0l v6 made 200hp. 3mz 3.3l v6 came out in 2004. So the v6s with more power didn't exist til 2004 2005ish. 3sgte i4 in sw20 you just turn up the boost and get more power. I have a 99 beams 3sge vvti non turbo i4 with 190 hp stock. Turbo i4 in 90s vs non turbo v6 in 90s. Boost.

  • @highlandparkguitarlessons8129
    @highlandparkguitarlessons8129 17 дней назад +118

    Honestly, this sounds like a dream Mr2 setup. How Toyota did consider this and have the foresight is beyond me. It’s a great setup for what an enthusiast would enjoy, the sound is very tuneful and lively. If the horsepower was matched to say 330-350hp, what a bargain 355 competitor that Toyota really missed the mark on. I’ve always been perplexed by Toyota, they have shown to genius in engineering in the past and that they can make spectacular examples but not doing something like this just seems like they were asleep at the wheel.
    I do wish the Mr2 was always a tad larger, the design seems like it wants to be actually.
    Great content Jay, as always very insightful and informative.

    • @technosworld2
      @technosworld2 17 дней назад +13

      The 3S-GTE is a legendary turbo engine that Toyota was already using in other cars and can be tuned to make a lot of power, so I think that's why they went with that one for most markets.

    • @TheCraigy83
      @TheCraigy83 17 дней назад +12

      it would be faster then the higher priced Supra , like ford making a xr3 faster then a Sierra cossy .they wouldn't do it .

    • @sergiopereira9546
      @sergiopereira9546 17 дней назад +25

      this engine only came after 2005 and this gen mr2 ended in 99 , before that toyota didnt have a v6 that came even close to 300hp neither they were full aluminium so in the end the car would just be more expensive and unbalanced.
      Europe never had the turbo version but that engine takes mods very well and nowadays can make way more power than this v6 could ever dream

    • @gairnmclennan5876
      @gairnmclennan5876 17 дней назад +2

      94" wheelbase it's ok. A 911 is less. A TVR griff is only 90"

    • @MR2GR
      @MR2GR 17 дней назад +3

      IMO it's already a 355 competitor at 320 hp. That's about what I've estimated mine at (dyno was 265whp, with a ~17% transmission loss for the e153), and my best draggy times were 4.3s 0-6 (4.1s with a 1 foot rollout, like motortrend uses) and 12.89s 1/4 @ 106mph. (Per Motortrend) The 355 berlinetta was tested at 4.7s 0-60, and 12.8s 1/4 @ 110mph.
      Also, thr 3.5l v8 in the 355 may make 375hp, but it only made 275lb-ft tq, where even my mr2, which doesn't post the best 2gr mr2 numbers is ~300lb-ft tq at the crank (250 at the wheels).
      But I do agree with you about toyota never putting a v6 in it from the factory. It's dissapointing.

  • @jimmyfarley5581
    @jimmyfarley5581 9 дней назад +4

    On a personal note I'd like commend you on your swearing free content. My young lads love your channel. They can watch it freely without the risk of them picking up bad language. Thank you. Well spoken,mature professionals are hard to come by . It's appreciated.

  • @eoinmurphy2438
    @eoinmurphy2438 17 дней назад +54

    Mr2s are 30 yrs old now. You wouldn't be long spending 10k rebuilding a 3sgte for power
    If mine goes pop il be doing a 2gr. Its a perfectly realistic diy project with all the bits and information off the shelf
    Makes a much more exotic car than the gen2 turbo
    Frankenstein motorworks has the full build well documented on RUclips.
    Love the content Jay👍

    • @gairnmclennan5876
      @gairnmclennan5876 17 дней назад

      Who would have guessed the V6 would fit! The exhaust note is superb.

    • @eoinmurphy2438
      @eoinmurphy2438 16 дней назад +3

      3 of the 4 engine mounts in an mr2 are on the gearbox. And thankfully the gearbox bolt pattern is the same as the v6.
      It's the perfect engine for an mr2
      Pity you don't come across 2gr in ireland at all

    • @RobertIsaacs-z3c
      @RobertIsaacs-z3c 14 дней назад +1

      Just rebuilt a GEN2. I'm at $3800 for 540WHP, ready to last another 30 years, with enough cylinder wall left to do again in another 30 years.

    • @SoulTouchMusic93
      @SoulTouchMusic93 4 дня назад

      a k20 is one engine mount away from dropping in btw. the gearbox linkage fits on the honda box too.

  • @leonessmann7786
    @leonessmann7786 17 дней назад +26

    I bought an 1991 MR2 as my first car back in 2019. It is a german version with the 156hp 3sge. Even though it has about 275000 kilometers on the odometer, it pushed 160hp and 190nm on the Dyno.
    I love to have the targa roofs off all summer long and I think even in near stock form it is a very delicate machine.
    I love it more and more every single day and I will never sell it.
    Great car btw👆🏻😍

    • @ianedmonds9191
      @ianedmonds9191 17 дней назад +2

      They are so engaging and emotional things to own.
      Please watch for rust on the sills. Take the door cards out and remove the foam. That's what kills most MR2s.

    • @leonessmann7786
      @leonessmann7786 17 дней назад

      @@ianedmonds9191 Thank you for mentioning. It’s very important to know the rust spots on these cars.
      By now I’m aware of pretty much all of them and they’ve ether been repaired or being watched and preserved with wax to prevent more damage. It’s also a garaged car and I never drove it with salt on the road and it rarely sees rain😌

  • @J.Wick.
    @J.Wick. 17 дней назад +26

    One of my favorite cars ever. I got to ride in a near brand new 1994 Turbo Manual back when I was 10 or 11. My dad worked at a Toyota dealer. I'd often go hangout at the lot with him during the summer when out of school. One day, they needed to make a bank run. They usually chose to take something fun. Usually used when they did so. I'll never forget feeling boost for the first time lol. Always wanted one of these. I've owned 2 4G Preludes, very similar looking, but very different otherwise. Maybe one day.

  • @4N15H
    @4N15H 12 дней назад +3

    Great video. As an owner of one of these I can say, with confidence, that you can build a V6 SW20 for significantly less than this build. You can build yourself a fully driving and sorted 1MZ or 3VZ conversion for around £3.5k if you are willing to get your mits grubby. There are even Woodsport wiring harnesses and adapters which plug and play. You can get away with just a standard replacement clutch. Only one specific engine mount is needed for the MR2, the rest just bolt up. 1GR engines are not easy to come by in the UK and can be comparatively much dearer than other markets (US), so consider the cost to value when picking an engine. A BEAMS and 3SGTE conversion will cost similar money to a 2GR, all with their pros and cons.

  • @paultucker1272
    @paultucker1272 17 дней назад +18

    Good lawwwwwd that sounds good! And Mk2 MR2s just seem to get better looking as time goes by. Not sure I could justify that sort of outlay, but I'm really glad this fella has. A seriously desirable car!

  • @starfox_wr-45e93
    @starfox_wr-45e93 17 дней назад +7

    I was so close to building one of these myself. Had the engine, car.. then life got in the way.
    I will build one. I'm not giving up on this one. I will have my Toyota Evora one day.

  • @samuelschelling5382
    @samuelschelling5382 17 дней назад +15

    Glass panels store behind the seats. I owned one and it's a super fun vehicle to daily, even with the stock 3S-GE engine.

  • @capn_shawn
    @capn_shawn 16 дней назад +9

    My '93 hardtop has always been my favorite car.
    Till a pickup pull out in front of it, destroying it and leaving a hole in my heart the shape of the last Toyota worth owning.

    • @EZ-D-FIANT
      @EZ-D-FIANT 14 дней назад +1

      @capn_shawn wounding, I've got a 91 hardtop with a 3rd gen 3sgte in so know how hard ghe tin tops are to find, has mine around 12 years now I bought it as a shell and have built every part myself (skyline brakes, celica front, active aero ect) I'd probably cry for years if someone hit mine like that sorry for your loss buddy....

  • @AntoniusTyas
    @AntoniusTyas 16 дней назад +15

    That intro is both hilarious and alarming. 11/10.
    Also, boy that 2GR sounds so good. Sad Toyota never really made V6-powered MR2. But if the rumours are true and they will actually make GR MR2 in the future with GR Yaris 3-pots, that'll be the next best thing.

    • @alechappy2070
      @alechappy2070 15 дней назад +1

      3 pots will always be half what they really need to be. The 2GR - FE is a motor, if serviced, that will outlive creation. Oh and that linear power build to from 1500 - 6,550 rpm is amazing. I love mine.

    • @tonyireland2234
      @tonyireland2234 14 дней назад

      3 pots ? No thanks and yes I know they are very powerful,but a V6 is a proper engine.(well 3/4).

  • @ExUSSailor
    @ExUSSailor 17 дней назад +30

    Toyota has always been a notoriously conservative car-maker.

    • @izzy031096
      @izzy031096 17 дней назад +1

      They over engineer things for sure. This makes them brilliant tuner vehicles

    • @dougr5809
      @dougr5809 16 дней назад

      ⁠true, but that’s not why

    • @ZyklonBBB
      @ZyklonBBB 16 дней назад +2

      Yes they give us the perfect blank canvas to build stuff very un-conservative.
      86, supra, mr2, JZX platform most of them end up pretty bonkers.
      And than we have the GR Yaris.

    • @warbuzzard7167
      @warbuzzard7167 15 дней назад +1

      By "conservative," you mean "boring."

    • @thrasher10000
      @thrasher10000 15 дней назад +2

      Mid engine is not exactly a conservative move

  • @longtailgt
    @longtailgt 17 дней назад +6

    0:15 that gobsmacking moment coupled with the background music was hilarious! You should do more pieces like this.

  • @mattewj1268
    @mattewj1268 17 дней назад +17

    This car sounds really lovely, I'm seriously tempted to build one of these.

  • @barnestim
    @barnestim 17 дней назад +10

    Why didn't Toyota do it at the time?...The V6s they had at the time (lets say, around 1994/1995 for the mid-model refresh were just not as powerful as the turbo, would've been a lot hard to maintain (i.e. rear cylinder bank spark plugs). The Toyota 3.0 VZ V6 had around 140KW, the later 3.0 MZ had around 150KW and 283Nm The 3S-GTE at this time had 180KW and 304Nm.
    It wasn't until the later GR V6s were released that they were comparable (at least in power and torque)...but again, by this stage the 3S-GTE had also grown in power and torque

  • @242Evangelion
    @242Evangelion 16 дней назад +3

    You are the Top Gear presenteter we never got but should. So good at presenting the story of the car. That you first thought that the car couldn't handle the extra power but you were wrong. You are so balanced in your view of cars overall and great reviewer or cars here on RUclips. Keep it up. Cheers from Sweden.

  • @mrkazman
    @mrkazman 17 дней назад +30

    I have one in Australia, basically the same spec. Originally one of the few dozen Bathurst editions from '99.
    I spank it up and down the mountains near Healesville and Lake Eildon.
    With a free breathing exhaust it is incredibly loud, even on engine braking.
    , but if you just crack the throttle to stop that, it runs almost silently.
    I can tell the ECU reflash wasn't quite done on your example, it was bouncing off the limit far too easily (and no, there is no redline-by-gear. The ECU doesnt know what gear it's in).
    I could bore you all to tears with more details, but Jay got it as right as necessary. Take care of these cars, they are special. But use them. Please.

    • @PiDsPagePrototypes
      @PiDsPagePrototypes 16 дней назад

      Did you do it yourself or pay a workshop? I'm interested to know how difficult it was to fabricate engine and gearbox mounts to suit. Always wanted one of these body styles, and the challange of turning the spanners myself would be a welcome mind clearing relaxation.

    • @Low760
      @Low760 16 дней назад +1

      ​@@PiDsPagePrototypesthe 3s mounts in later camrys so I'd imagine the opposite works

  • @mndlessdrwer
    @mndlessdrwer 10 дней назад +1

    The MR2 can easily handle a naturally aspirated V6 in the 240-300HP range and the added low-end torque and broader torque curve will actually make it a lot easier to drive in certain cases since you aren't needing to shift as frequently to ensure that you're in the power band, since the power band is considerably wider with more displacement and more cylinders. So a corner you'd have to downshift for and risk breaking traction due to the downshift, you can take in the same gear and just power through. No need to 3-2-3 a corner when you've got enough torque to just leave it in third. You'd still need to downshift for hairpins, though.

  • @2amSpeedMerchant
    @2amSpeedMerchant 17 дней назад +11

    I'd love to see jayemm do a Fifth Gear episode with Tiff Needell, Vikki Butler Henderson and Johnny Smith 😂❤

  • @jameshunterford4099
    @jameshunterford4099 17 дней назад +12

    Fun fact: If you tap your screen to fast forward just as the “Dodo Juice” part of the intro comes up, it takes you straight to the start of the video …

    • @jamesengland7461
      @jamesengland7461 17 дней назад +4

      Must not skip the awesome intro music!

    • @lorddoobsworth144
      @lorddoobsworth144 17 дней назад +1

      @@jamesengland7461 I do a little dance almost every time 🕺

    • @jameshunterford4099
      @jameshunterford4099 16 дней назад

      @@lorddoobsworth144 Listen to the music Jay used on the Countach video! It’s soooo good!

    • @jameshunterford4099
      @jameshunterford4099 16 дней назад

      @@jamesengland7461 😬

  • @michaelbishop888
    @michaelbishop888 17 дней назад +5

    Being pedantic - the t-bar panels don’t store in the boot. The gen2 SW20 was also available as a Spider, albeit in very very small numbers 😊

  • @Jettski
    @Jettski 17 дней назад +17

    I can't get over just how good this sounds!

  • @713vinh
    @713vinh 16 дней назад +2

    I had a 1993 MR2 Turbo back in High School and indeed I was the coolest kid on the block. Really loved that csr.

  • @aymaneoubad5057
    @aymaneoubad5057 11 дней назад +1

    The owner made an already cool car even cooler. Thank you and him for sharing, and cheers!

  • @MattBeardless
    @MattBeardless 16 дней назад +2

    It has to be said, having had some dealings with V6 SW20 MR2s over the years, that is an exceptionally well done example of it.

  • @seanweirdbeard
    @seanweirdbeard 17 дней назад +23

    Sarah n Tuned has a lovely Turbo Resto.

    • @Dravensdmf
      @Dravensdmf 17 дней назад +2

      @@seanweirdbeard Mr Dos. An incredible example if an MR2 and Sarah us excellent. Great series to watch with that resto mr2

    • @ecyfoto
      @ecyfoto 17 дней назад +1

      Her ‘91 is way more enjoyable to look at. This one is fugly by comparison. Still an interesting (yet expensive) swap.

    • @schafer240
      @schafer240 16 дней назад +4

      Resto? You talking about "Sarah" or the mr2?

    • @jessecarpenter8760
      @jessecarpenter8760 14 дней назад

      Sara n tuned is a guy. Look at the knees and dude hands and hips. Bruce Jenner working on cars.

  • @markmcgrath9098
    @markmcgrath9098 17 дней назад +4

    I’d argue that the NSX is everyone’s favourite Japanese budget Ferrari.

    • @Boz196
      @Boz196 11 дней назад +2

      Not so budget anymore lol

    • @thrasher10000
      @thrasher10000 10 дней назад +1

      @@markmcgrath9098 worth more than some Ferraris now

  • @gothicpagan.666
    @gothicpagan.666 9 дней назад

    MR2 was the grown up X1/9.
    For a sports car what Jay has there is as perfect as anyone could reasonably expect, short of a Noble

  • @clintmc8285
    @clintmc8285 15 дней назад +1

    I just dropped a fair bit converting my 1990 to a 3SGE BEAMS, I should have gone the V6 route. I love that sound of that V6. I could probably pull the BEAMS motor as this would go a long way to a V6 but i just want to get her back on the road, been a couple years and I miss driving her.

  • @Ottobon
    @Ottobon 17 дней назад +3

    Oh nice, Jay found the coolest Toyota swap. 93+ models like that are trick because you can fix the twitchyness completely by lowering the rear end 1 inch, offset with tire sizes to level (if wanted) and bam, super stable, actually even driftable if desired MR2. FR style handling with rear end bite of MR. Was found out and thoroughly tested to multiple championship victories stateside in Solo ii/Autocross.

    • @paineu_9112
      @paineu_9112 10 дней назад

      @@Ottobon any more information or videos on this?

    • @Ottobon
      @Ottobon 10 дней назад

      @@paineu_9112 Look up XHEADs old posts on mr2oc, if the website is still around

    • @Ottobon
      @Ottobon 2 дня назад

      @@paineu_9112 I thought i responded but may have not properly. If you look up XHEAD's old posts on MR2OC then you can read about it, this is the best route if you can find all his old posts the guy was a legend beyond his pay grade. If you want to see the car he built (which was a AW11 that he shared slightly less info on, instead he prefered to give all his best info for a car he wasn't racing or competing with, the SW20) then look up Steve Hoelscher, #27 DP class
      He only desired to make faster cars, but byproduct of his advice was he made super easy to drive MR2s by just adjusting the issues with the rear end, front doesn't really need much touching, if any. Its all very simple stuff and if you follow swing-axle car development like old porsche/vw, or by contrast drift setups (not his intention but half related and half true) its all similar stuff, you just want a rear end that doesn't go crazy with camber angles. With the MR2s the inside tire going vastly positive camber is most the issue. Why it was setup like this goes down a long route but the simple answer was it was early tech era solution to ride quality vs lateral g, the latest model car i can think that suffers this issue is the S2000 but before that in the 80s it was dozens, from C4s to specific model RX7s to even Mustangs at one point, it just becomes even more a problem on MR, but not a irreconcilable one.

  • @NightfallDrives
    @NightfallDrives 16 дней назад +4

    People pleasantly surprised by the sound need to check out some Lotus products 😉 really interesting prospect this one

  • @robsmith1a
    @robsmith1a 17 дней назад +1

    I had the MK2 MR2 GT T-Bar in 1998, fabulous car. A few years later I had a Ferrari 328 GTS. The Ferrari was a dream for me but I don't think I enjoyed driving the MR2 any less and it was much easier to pile the miles on.

  • @universalclassiccars
    @universalclassiccars 3 дня назад

    You have to admire the passion to place money into a guaranteed no return, but listening to it is enough, what is fantastic noise, smiles per gallon or smile per Roi 😬

  • @maunsell24
    @maunsell24 15 дней назад +1

    I know the owner of this car. I've driven a couple of 2GR-FE powered Mk2 MR2s. The effortless torque from low revs is the big difference compared with the 3S-GTE in the turbo version. Plus that fabulous V6 sound track. :>)

  • @2JZDestroyer
    @2JZDestroyer 17 дней назад +1

    @3:20 you could also send it back to Toyota for the technocraft TRD2000GT(jgtc body, but with all the street car comforts) upfitting , or send it to SARD for the MC4 GTII(information is extremely limited on power output, however it has significant aero updates) upfitting, which in some cases left SW20s with upwards of 500whp. This is very much the 90s equivalent of calling up Manthey Racing for a GT3 RS build; meaning expensive.

  • @WarriorsPhoto
    @WarriorsPhoto 15 дней назад +1

    That's what the MR2 should have had.
    The MR2 is a great car and I'd like to own one with this swap. 😊

  • @andrewellis5092
    @andrewellis5092 17 дней назад +1

    Wow, that sounds amazing!! It’s not a conversion I even thought about before this video, but totally makes sense!! Brilliant.

  • @MichaelHanna-c5i
    @MichaelHanna-c5i 17 дней назад

    Lovely video! Your 'consumer advice' about the power steering pump is spot on - I've had to do it a few times over the years.
    I have the same Enkeis on my '91 Turbo, but ABS and A/C were options on my original one (which I ticked), and the Cruise was standard. I don't know why the UK market was treated so poorly.
    My second one, which I've had for 10 years, did not come with ABS. It's original owner was cheaper than I was I suppose.
    These days the stock Turbo MR2 is "just a car", but it's still a lovely place to be on a nice twisty road. I agree with you about the chassis. I'm not confident that my car (or myself) could handle 300hp in it, so I think I'll just keep it as it is.
    Thank you for another excellent video.

  • @phillipberk5767
    @phillipberk5767 17 дней назад

    Jay's videos have always been good, but your commentating style and "tone" recently have truly been great, It is A unique twist on the OG top gear review style with a bit more real-world down-to-earth car guy stuff. Loving the content Jay, Keep it up!

  • @TnDAtkinson
    @TnDAtkinson 15 дней назад +1

    That V6 just sounds so good, and proper for that car.

  • @jamesrigby2271
    @jamesrigby2271 14 дней назад

    I had a grey import turbo tuned to the max. A complete handful, I couldn't keep it in a straight line and soon smashed it sideways into the arm rail doing over 120mph on a motorway (A9) near AMS Schiphol in the rain. Managed to bend every panel including the roof and chassis, without amazingly not breaking a single item of glass or light. Threw it in the bin and bought something more sensible.

  • @jamesonslow
    @jamesonslow 17 дней назад +3

    Ooh. An owner after my own heart. As much as it makes no financial sense, I still aim to Rocketeer swap my Mk1 MX-5. 🙂

  • @Wargasm54
    @Wargasm54 17 дней назад +3

    That sound impressed me more than I thought it would. Cool little car. I wouldn’t mind having this or a souped up Miata. But I just look a bit dorky in smaller cars. I’m 6-2 so I always get bigger cars. Although I’m American. I’m not a truck guy. Nor do I care much for SUV’s. So that just leaves me with few options. American muscle cars or German muscle cars 😂. I have a couple Mercedes. Sadly I sold my AMG. So my E550 will have to keep me happy until my next AMG. Which it has 412hp, so it’s not too much of a slouch. And with AWD it’s almost as quick as my old AMG RWD to 60mph. But that MR-2 looks like fun. Cool video.

    • @izzy031096
      @izzy031096 17 дней назад

      Jesus loves you mate. Hell is real, you don’t want to end up there.
      Jesus gave the ultimate sacrifice, so that all we had to do was profess faith in him, and we would be saved from an eternity in hell.
      God bless you
      More to the point of your comment, I love my AMG’s as well, particularly the older stuff. I’ve currently got a C36 AMG, had an e55 w210 for awhile, I can’t get away from straight sixes though..

    • @sayerma
      @sayerma 17 дней назад

      Me too mate, for sure. Aussie car culture is good but you'll never see me in a pick-up or SUV or Ute. Current ride is BMW 335i sedan and next up will be a Merc 43 AMG ESTATE

    • @deanchur
      @deanchur 17 дней назад +1

      I'm 6'4" and daily a Fiesta; don't worry about how you look in a smaller car. If someone has a problem with it they're always welcome to buy you a car they'd like (and pay the running costs).

  • @BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne
    @BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne 17 дней назад +4

    I used to own a V6 Xantia (3.0) and it was a real wolf in sheep's clothing.....

  • @chrisdavidson911
    @chrisdavidson911 17 дней назад +9

    "Picking your line without leaving your side of the road" - i, for one, regard this as not cheating!
    My imaginary tenner is going on Toyota knew they could do it, thought about it, and decided it wasn't allowed to be faster than a Supra. In exactly the way that someone at Lotus said the Esprit's V8 would fit in an Elise but they weren't going to do it.

    • @LukeAnthony-v3r
      @LukeAnthony-v3r 17 дней назад +2

      lets not forget that the 2gr didn't exist until well after the mk2 mr2 finished production

    • @papapetad
      @papapetad 17 дней назад

      Like the bmw 1m not being delivered with the V8...coz y'know...M3 sales.

    • @AbrahamArthemius
      @AbrahamArthemius 17 дней назад

      .. and when they eventually put another engine to the MR2 (V8), it turned into a unicorn Le Mans homologation car called the SARD MC8.
      The race version may not be successful, but the road version? That thing just oozes cool all over.

    • @chrisdavidson911
      @chrisdavidson911 16 дней назад

      @@LukeAnthony-v3ri hadn’t actually checked anything like that 😂

    • @lazarushernandez5827
      @lazarushernandez5827 16 дней назад

      That is it, another car in the lineup limiting the potential.
      Imagine if the Boxster/Cayman wasn't restricted by the 911, or if you could get a BRZ from factory with a turbocharged WRX engine, or a limited edition MX-5 Miata with a Rotary from an RX-7/RX-8...

  • @uptownsamcv
    @uptownsamcv 14 дней назад +1

    I believe the main reason Toyota didn't put a V6 in the 2nd generation MR2 was the fact that they only had iron block V6's while the 2nd gen MR2 was being developed and none of those V6's made more power than the 3SGTE. the all aluminum 1MZ-FE didn't make it into production until 93 when it was offered in the 93 Camry and ES300...

  • @Dankturboz
    @Dankturboz 17 дней назад +1

    Actually the turbo models can have both AC and cruise control. I own a very early Japanese market model with both. It even has fog lights that turn with the wheels like an old mercedes

  • @afoolandhismoneychannel
    @afoolandhismoneychannel 17 дней назад +4

    It's a labour of love. You can't put a price on that.

    •  17 дней назад

      Maybe should have paid for some spelling lessons.

    • @afoolandhismoneychannel
      @afoolandhismoneychannel 17 дней назад +1

      Look everyone, an American is here!

  • @mickstereftb
    @mickstereftb 17 дней назад +4

    I always wanted to do this with my 3 previous Mister 2's. Never did though, could never afford the 4k, as it cost then, with Woodsport, 15 years ago, to do it.

    • @wrench8677
      @wrench8677 16 дней назад

      It’s crazy how much the price of work has risen.
      I was so close to getting the 3vz in mine, I saved up and then crashed it a few days before I was going to book the conversion.
      I later found out mine had been in a front end crash before and badly repaired causing it to spin under braking in a straight line 😢

    • @mickstereftb
      @mickstereftb 16 дней назад +1

      @@wrench8677 Most just spun if you gave it the beans around corners. 😁

    • @wrench8677
      @wrench8677 16 дней назад

      @@mickstereftb I used to love the way the back end kicked out and then wiggled back into line when you put your foot down on a slow 90 turn

    • @mickstereftb
      @mickstereftb 16 дней назад +1

      @@wrench8677 Me too until it one day it didn't wiggle as much as I needed it too and I slammed into a kerb. Thank god for eBay and a cheap new wheel. 😬

  • @thomassmith3817
    @thomassmith3817 17 дней назад +108

    This is what people do when they A haven’t got a turbo and want it to be quick or B blew the 3SGTE up and can’t afford another

    • @kevinvanneste2500
      @kevinvanneste2500 17 дней назад +18

      Or want more sound

    • @davekennedy6315
      @davekennedy6315 17 дней назад +19

      Yup defo way, WAY better soundtrack, way more power, way more torque, way more driveability.

    • @dreaddarven
      @dreaddarven 17 дней назад +16

      Or want less moving parts = more reliability, Better throttle response, way better sound (imho), more "grown up" feel of the car etc

    • @davekennedy6315
      @davekennedy6315 17 дней назад +12

      This would drive SO much better than a turbo! You would have way more power and torque from 1000rpm all the way to its red line (at a guess 6000+rpm?) There would be zero lag and instant healthy throttle response from the larger capacity, a flat torque curve giving a much more enjoyable and easier to control all round driving experience. Old School turbos are not exactly smooth or controllable. If you fitted a bigger turbo to hit 350bhp like this the car would be a laggy turd with boost coming on late in the rev range and then only giving you 1500-2000rpm of pull? Shite. Even if the turbo had another 50bhp on this I guarantee THIS would easily run rings round it on the road or track!

    • @austinpaulr35
      @austinpaulr35 17 дней назад +3

      Perhaps. Although I had a perfectly fine 3SGTE and swapped in the 2GR. I did it because I track the car and I prefer the 2GR for that purpose.

  • @chadbauer8990
    @chadbauer8990 17 дней назад

    I have an Estima with this engine and it is actually bloody fast. So 500 Kg less weight give or take can only yield a stupendous result.!

  • @andrewsmart2949
    @andrewsmart2949 15 дней назад +1

    i guess toyota never really saw any of their V6's as performance engines,the 3VZ-Fe had forged crank and rods so there was a base to work from i guess

    • @p3ggy80
      @p3ggy80 14 дней назад

      Yep. Someone should supercharge one :)

  • @SillyPuddy2012
    @SillyPuddy2012 13 дней назад

    Good timing with Number 27’s review of a Gen 2 MR2.

  • @F1Guy-Guy
    @F1Guy-Guy 6 дней назад

    I bought a MR2 yesterday thanks to this video

  • @johancoetzer2165
    @johancoetzer2165 16 дней назад

    As a former RX350 owner, I am astounded about how good this engine can sound!

  • @Z-u-m-a
    @Z-u-m-a 16 дней назад

    I love cars like that. High mileage and cared for, and also a bit different. Nice one Nick.

  • @oggie1967
    @oggie1967 17 дней назад

    Oh James, loving the howl of that V6!
    Wouldn't mind an MR2 like that for the weekends.
    Thanks for sharing!👍👏👏👏♥️

  • @alouiciousjackson5812
    @alouiciousjackson5812 13 дней назад

    The idea is cool and a good option if you can't get a turbo. I had a '93 turbo for 10 years with lots of upgrades and for me, that's the best option if you can find it.

  • @teckniec2
    @teckniec2 15 дней назад +1

    One of my dream cars is an AW11 MR2. This one is really clean though.

  • @meekrab9027
    @meekrab9027 8 дней назад

    TRD also sells a supercharger that bolts right on ... 400+ whp in an MR2 will surprise even modern sports cars

  • @TenMillionYearProgram42
    @TenMillionYearProgram42 17 дней назад +4

    Bot city in the comments wowza!
    Edit: love love love these MR2s. Been my dream car since childhood! SW20 ftw!

  • @AndrewDobie
    @AndrewDobie 9 дней назад

    This reminds me of my Rocketeer Mk1 Mx5 (which you'll be welcome to drive JayEmm!). It has cost me about the same money. Both are fairly unique, make a wonderful v6 noise and yes are not for everyone; no accountant in the world would sign off what ive spent on mine :D

  • @jacobhelm7779
    @jacobhelm7779 17 дней назад

    The 2gr completes the car imo. Give the looks the sound to complement. Once I have the money I’ll be doing this to my SW20.

  • @davieboywassup
    @davieboywassup 17 дней назад

    That just might be my favourite car so far. It sounds great, is plenty quick and an evora looks half as good.

  • @cdlelondon
    @cdlelondon 16 дней назад

    The MRT GT T bar is the only car I've ever bought new twice, I absolutely loved both of mine and I soooooo want to get another one when I've got 12k 🙏🙏🙏

  • @DOJAx707
    @DOJAx707 9 дней назад

    I'm a Honda guy, but damn that MR2 looks and sounds good.

  • @rustbeltrobclassic2512
    @rustbeltrobclassic2512 17 дней назад +1

    It's wild, i have driven the 3sgte and the us spec 5sfe.. and at no point did i think, man! this thing needs to be more scary.. 😂.. i have been in the 1mzfe swapped which is the 3.0 from the same generation, those were torquey engines, but it didn't feel as fast as the 3sgte.. Then at a car show i ran into a guy who K20 turbo swapped one, and that's when i immediately decided the balance was more fun in the 5sfe than the terror of 700whp in a k20 turbo powered version.. 😂

  • @mrt2760
    @mrt2760 16 дней назад

    Had an MR2 Turbo/GTS around 1999, brilliant car. Head gasket blew which I think is common on these due to engine location and airflow.

  • @X774M
    @X774M 16 дней назад

    I remember when I was 17 passed my driving test and I was looking into doing one of these conversions but i ended up buying an mx5 nb a year later. Maybe one day I'll actually buy one after the many e36 projects I want to build

  • @PinkyAndTheBrainTumor
    @PinkyAndTheBrainTumor 17 дней назад +1

    Six weeks and 13k is wild. I guess if you have a lot of money and no interest in working with cars then yeah, go for it. But it is not that complicated and definitely something you can do on your own.

  • @RobertNES816
    @RobertNES816 15 дней назад

    That is the right sound for the MR2! Most definitely should've come with a V6!

  • @timj41
    @timj41 16 дней назад +1

    Don’t forget to Hoover up the piece of biscuit off the carpet before you give it back mate

  • @AnonymousAndy2
    @AnonymousAndy2 16 дней назад

    Lovely looking car. Love how owner has kept it looking pretty stock. If you said it left the factory looking like that with that engine I would have believed you, nice job 👍🏻

  • @20vtechnik
    @20vtechnik 17 дней назад

    We have had a few toyotas in the past and they have been.....well, boring and short lived (mainly due to rust and rot).
    Shockingly our older Audis have far surpased them in terms of lifespan, mileage, age and obviously spirited driving.
    A decade or so ago i was able to drive a couple mr2s and it was fun.
    Underpowered but fun.
    Truthfully, It made me appreciate the mazda miata a bit more...
    However, with this hp output, this mr2 would no doubt be a blast to drive!
    Thanks for sharing!

  • @getplaning
    @getplaning 14 дней назад

    I have always said that cars like the FIAT X1-9, Lancia Beta Scorpion, and Toyota MR-2 should have been offered with at least a 2.5L V-6 engine. Look what a collector car the Porsche 914/6 became.

  • @martinordovasgracia3868
    @martinordovasgracia3868 14 дней назад

    I swear to god, RPF1's on MR2's has to be the perfect spec 🫠

  • @oukie666
    @oukie666 15 дней назад

    Just a correction, the Rev3 did have traction control and ABS in the UK as an option, back in the 90's I had a Rev 3 UK car which had both, it had every option available in the UK when it was new £25k if I remember correctly, if you looked under the bonnet the unit had plethora of pipes, something thats not even there on the non traction control/ABS cars, I believe the Rev4 got these as standard.

  • @royferntorp
    @royferntorp 16 дней назад

    Mister Two had a way of teaching one a different driving style. Oversteer was fun. As it was in the Dino or that Lancia monster.

  • @garethpetley6715
    @garethpetley6715 9 дней назад

    That learner car at the start was already past the point where he could have given way to you- that one was your fault for just barrelling through thinking "my right of way"

  • @mantarayal
    @mantarayal 16 дней назад +1

    Check out Sarah'n'Tuned currently fitting a V8 into a gorgeous 70s Celica. She also has a nut and bolt resto MK2 MR2. She's awesome.

  • @justinpayne9457
    @justinpayne9457 13 дней назад

    Yup sounds just like my 08 Lexus IS350. It’s a quick motor in my 3500lbs car. 5sec 0-60 times. 13 sec 1/4 mile. I could only imagine in an mr2

  • @garethjohnstone9282
    @garethjohnstone9282 8 дней назад

    The Mister Two is still a fantastic looking car.

  • @Nico_lente
    @Nico_lente 17 дней назад

    Great video of such a great car

  • @jabberwockytdi8901
    @jabberwockytdi8901 13 дней назад

    doesn't surprise me it was never sold in Europe , but as cars usually get larger engine in the US than they do here the V6 version is one you would really expect to find in the US ( though likely often in auto form even in a car like the MR2)

  • @CherylCold
    @CherylCold 16 дней назад

    You have to remember the build was over many years, factor in the use the car has had and hopefully no finance and you have a win win. Who cares about what its resale value is if you enjoy it and can still afford to go out for a meal and fill it with fuel and smile,

  • @001dman
    @001dman 16 дней назад

    most fun i have is in my v6 mr2.. 1ar swapped on coming soon. going to see how the GRs 4 cylinder brother propels one of these beauties with some light mods. (my v6 is also... very not stock, 320 wheel is a fun thing)

  • @florider_hd
    @florider_hd 17 дней назад +1

    it just sounds so good

  • @davesloat9006
    @davesloat9006 17 дней назад

    The second gen MR2 is a beautiful car for the 90s!

  • @hell_tiger7163
    @hell_tiger7163 15 дней назад

    If the owner also finds the clutch to be a bit heavy on the foot, he might want to swap to a turbo clutch pedal assembly. It has a spring assembly to assist with a heavier clutch. I have a exedy stage 1 in my 3sgte swapped celica (no helper springs) and a stage 2 in my 1994 jdm mr2 turbo. The mr2's pedal is so much lighter i almost thought it wasn't engaging the clutch!

  • @ThecultofCon
    @ThecultofCon 13 дней назад

    The RHD markets always get the best Toyotas. Not to say we didnt get the MR2 in the states, but a lot of the better Toyota variants arent available here or in LHD.

  • @seinsmeld13
    @seinsmeld13 15 дней назад

    I almost bought a 1985 MR2 here in Canada. I didn't because the ex couldn't drive a standard. Therefore I bought a GTS which was a great car.

  • @WiseGuyzGarage
    @WiseGuyzGarage 16 дней назад

    I personally built one of these. I say if you want to do it on a budget, pull the engine yourself and start with a RUNNING AND DRIVING SW20.

  • @lqr824
    @lqr824 15 дней назад

    Interesting that the stock model had an iron block. So did the famous 4th-generation Supra. The current 5th-gen Supra is the same displacement yet 100lb/45kg lighter. Nominally the power was 330PS vs. 370PS but in fact either engine will make whatever power level you wish. I gather the old iron block is more reliable over 1000hp though, and apparently good for 2000.

  • @stevegee6529
    @stevegee6529 16 дней назад

    Perfect amount power, set the suspension up and it will be a cracking car. I think 30k is a great price if it's set up right

  • @eric-wb7gj
    @eric-wb7gj 17 дней назад

    TY J! 🙏🙏 A great project, but as you say, an Evora would be tempting to!

  • @OYisit
    @OYisit 15 дней назад

    Yes since mk 2 mr was based on a Camry powertrain instead of the Corolla it would be a easy option to offer but since the price range was getting to close to Corvette territory it was voted down in favor of a larger market share price point..

  • @miked5789
    @miked5789 16 дней назад +1

    13k sound like a bargain, considering how much work it is.

  • @julianevans9548
    @julianevans9548 17 дней назад +2

    Love the driving tip!

  • @CHUNGHO3
    @CHUNGHO3 17 дней назад

    Sounds phenomenal and i love the intro! Thanks!