Lucas all the way. That man Do know how to love. Every girl should have a guy like this. Caring, thoughtful, supportive, kind romantic. and not to forget also smart, sophisticated, witty and Spicy
I was leaning more toward Nathan, but at the end of the season, I didn't really care which one she picked as long as she picked one of them! I was just tired of the triangle lasting three seasons. Now everyone can finally move on. I'm just sad that her choice has angered so many fans. I wasn't surprised to see who she picked after watching the preview for the finale. The way the preview was cut with certain characters on screen while Rosemary was talking about some people being around for a season and some for a lifetime, I just knew in my gut that was a red herring. On to the other relationships. I was so happy to see that Henry and Abigail have been writing to each other. I've wanted them to get together for a while now. Lee and Rosemary are always wonderful. I like the idea of Mike and Fiona possibly starting as friends and moving on to a romantic relationship, but I'm also okay if they just remain friends. I think Mike has feelings for her, but I'm not sure she'll return them. Florence and Ned are really cute together. I'm also on the fence about Molly and Bill. Rachel and Christopher were pretty baffling, and I'm glad they didn't stick around in town for a long time (sorry). I've never really liked Clara and Jesse, so I'm not very invested in their storyline. The Canfields are a nice new addition. I really like Minnie as the new voice of reason. I hadn't noticed that she seemed to be taking on Abigail's role until you pointed it out. Allie and Robert are cute, but I'm not sure the writers will spend the energy on keeping up with their budding relationship. I can only think of one other schoolyard romance (with Emily's brother, Gabe) they've had on the show and it lasted a few episodes. As for Faith and Carter, I have no idea where that relationship is going. They seemed so hot and cold all season. One episode, Faith is telling Carson he can't miss his opportunity, but he wants to stay with her instead. The next episode, he tells her he's leaving and she gets mad because he's going? Lady, you literally just told him to leave! Then the whole thing with the ring was weird. I don't know. I've never really liked them together. I've always felt that they were only dating because their proximity while working together kept them close. Now, with Carson gone, I wouldn't be surprised if Faith moves on. I didn't even remember the thing about Faith needing to work under a qualified doctor for two years before becoming a doctor herself. I won't be surprised if it's never brought up again. Also, the only thing in the season that really made me mad was when Elizabeth and Rosemary were fighting. I love their friendship and it was so tough to see them not talking to each other. I'm glad it didn't last long. Sorry for the novel in your comments. I guess I just had a lot to say.
I was so upset by Elizabeth and Rosemary fighting too!!! And agree with you on so much stuff. And I think it’s sad how angry fans have gotten over who she picked.
I was shocked when chose Lucas. For 3 seasons we had to be in teams.Mr.Bird the writer had 2 scripts.He made a big mistake! A big one, and I dont appreciate being called a troll. There are hundreds of us, who will not be watching. Kevin deserves more than a few Movies.I am not paying for Hallmark anymore!
Great video and analysis! I never doubted that Lucas would be Elizabeth's choice after the "Unconditional Love" scene in Season 7, Episode 4. The writers conveyed what Lucas believed Elizabeth deserved: to be loved unconditionally. Given that he was already in love with her, it was implied that this is what HE wanted to give her if they ended up together. Then we had the Union City trip, where there was so much foreshadowing about waiting and being patient (a theme that comes back in Season 8.) I think Season 8 was pretty much about Lucas and Elizabeth's journey to finding each other. When Lucas set Elizabeth free, it felt like the typical Hallmark trope where the endgame couple has angst before the resolution. So glad Elizabeth chose the right guy for her! This is a love story I'm going to enjoy seeing play out.
I was noticing a lot of anti Lucas commenters are hung up on the fact that he seemed shady at the get go. They forget about the real reason he was keeping secrets was for a noble cause. Hence we are left with the fact that he has the vice of gambling as his only downfall. Apparently he must be keeping it in check because he isn’t broke. (I don’t condone gambling). But my main point is that when Rosemary first came to the show how did we feel about her? And now look at her she’s half of one of the best couples on the show and has changed from the jealous and vane woman she was to a true friend and a loving wife and an overall good neighbor. Of course this may be because Elizabeth’s other best friend got cancelled but either way she is not who she was on the first season. Completely different lady where it counts (how she cares about other people now). Could it be the same with Lucas? Only he just seemed shady because of a misunderstanding. But he always cared about people.
Secrets are secrets, just like N kept the secret from E about Fort Clay, yet you all condemned N..L doesn't get a pass noble of not...it's still a secret
I have to say I love that you point out all the mistakes that the writers or whoever made up this show. Because everything you just said is 100% true.I'm one of those people that do the same thing I look at things that should have been and things that shouldn't have been. But five stars 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟 to you.
I will be okay with the way it turned out! But I will be up set if Nathan gets stuck with Faith! That will turn me off! Hope a new lady show's up for him!!!!!
I wondered if they where hinting in the Nathan/Faith direction when he was treating his hand in the last episode. Yeah... I don’t really see that relationship working out. 😂
Been a rooting for Lucas since the start. So glad it was him. They had the build up and relationship. And he puts her first and challenges her. Elizabeth lights up with him. They share alot of things. Cant wait to see their love story in season 9
Iam looking forward to the new stories that's to come! Know Nathan will be sad for awhile! So will Nathan's team! Let's see if Lucas makes a good father as love is more then just a good lover! Little Jack needs a trust worthy man in his life now! Looking forward to next season's! I have watched it from the start and will till the end!
I loved your analysis. I couldn’t agree more. I have been a fan of Lucas since season 6. I liked Nathan, but always found him secretive. And we found out why this year. I’ve heard all the comments that Elizabeth has to be with a Mountie because of the original books. But in the book Jack didn’t die. So that premise died with him. I agree with you that having Elizabeth and Lucas together allows Elizabeth to experience a more mature romantic relationship. She was so naive when she married Jack. I’m so looking forward to seeing their romance grow in Season 9. I’m also hoping for some funny scenes of Lucas and little Jack. Lucas was so good with Allie. I think he’s going to be a great father.
I love Lucas and the fact that they end up together..but I have a question...Why did they do the whole hand holding thing? They spent so many episodes focussing on her overcoming being able to first hold hands with Lucas first in private then in public. Only to have her pick Nathans hands in that game? Why would they do that? Just wondering if you have thoughts on that. I can see why Nathan fans were frustrated by that. That and the whole "Love is worth fighting for theme" I didnt get that. Also I do think the writers couls have done better making the conversations between Lucas and Elizabeth a bit deeper amd more meaningful during their courtship. Would have made the ending make more sense.
The fact that L and E have not had ONE SINGLE DEEP CONVERSATION worries me...A true love will have at least a few conversations before you choose that person to be a suitor..There is NO chemistry among E and L, none..N and E had those deep conversations. You can't date someone for a whole year and don't talk about things like LJ,your dreams, your hopes, your hurts, etc. etc..E still doesn't know anything about L father or his pass. She also doesn't know about L hiring Henry son to spy on him and the fact that WCTH writers decided to turn L into N2.0 should concern everyone. If they thought E and L were so right for each other, why change L??? Also, according to KM, the decision to whom E chose did not come until late in season 8. Go back and watch his interview, EK also said the same thing..So for all of you that keep stating, "I never doubted it would be L and E" you are soooooooo wrong. The script was flipped for the "bait and switch" hook, line, and sinker.
I completely agree! I also was resigned to her choosing Nathan but really like Lucas for the same reasons you did. Nathan couldn’t seem to see past his own desire, even after she said no and was actually dating Lucas. Although she was sending mixed signals she had made her choice and he didn’t respect it. That bothered me. Even after Lucas told him to do what is best for Elizabeth and Ally and not just himself. He is a good guy but it seemed his masculine pride and ego got the best of him..
I found Nathan rude since the start with Lucas. Also his attitude towards Elizabeth was something. He also felt like he was entitled to Elizabeth and just going me me me . It was off putting. Lucas put Elizabeth first each time and being patient and understanding and then finally setting her free... for her to find her way back to him. You know how that saying goes
@@janethenderson9818 I am sorry you are so angry and disappointed but the conversation I am referencing happened because Nathan went to Lucas to tell him he was not giving up his fight for Elizabeth. The nerve and inappropriate behavior was on Nathan’s part not Lucas, which was part of my point. I hope Nathan gets a wonderful story, he is a good character. I am looking forward to watching it unfold. I respect your difference of opinion though and wish you the best..
I wasn't surprised about the ending....it didn't make sense Elizabeth and Nathan, I thought from the beginning like your mom did... Elizabeth was looking at Jack everytime she looked at Nathan. For those thinking that Lucas could not be a good father figure for Jack, think how good he was with Allie more than one time. Also, like you, I thought for sure she would have ended up with Nathan because the majority of viewers wanted that to happen. But so very excited for next season to see E and L together....hope there is a Christmas show!
Yes! Like you, I think Lucas would be a great father. He was so good with Allie. And really, what a makes a great father is a man of character and good qualities. And he has that. If anything, Elizabeth was always having to coach Nathan on how to be a good father figure to Allie. So it’s not like he exactly had that role figured out himself. 😂
@@EllieDashwood Lucas has been good with Allie few times. He taught the kids to make paper lanterns at xmas. And he did a carnival for xmas so it felt like the family feeling he always had at xmas... Elizabeth pointing that out to him. And not just that he as appreciation for family - cos he values his family even if he didnt see them as much when he was a child only at xmas it seems
Definitely Team Lucas. I thought all along Elizabeth was projecting the feeling she had for Jack toward Nathan. When she walked out of Lucas' office and fanned herself, it told exactly what she felt for Lucas. I think her continued attention to Nathan was pure guilt. If she had told Nathan that she was not IN love with him earlier in the triangle, he would have backed off. He knew that not only was she totally in love with Lucas, but Lucas was totally in love with her.
Ellie, you seem like such a lovely person! Your videos make me happy. The part about "Pintrist board quotes" in place of actually representing an authentic Christian character with real faith and priciples; Ellie, I love how you just described a thing in movies I have seen SO much. I wonder if it's a desire by movie makers to cash in on a demographic, but having limited understanding of said demographic and little interest in understanding them? Maybe an added desire to be PC makes such characters appear shallowly Christian-ish and inauthentic? I'm not sure why, but I have seen what you are talking about. I also love how you can express your love for something while at the same time being fully aware of its faults. I felt the same way about this story. (I haven't watched the series but read the books) I think for me the story did a good job tapping into human emotion and caused me to connect with the characters, but at the same time the history part of it was often all wrong. When I read the books, It felt like an alternate universe to me too.
Aw, that you *so* much! 😃😊 I really wonder if how they represent Christians is like you said, driven by the desire to be PC. And that’s so interesting about the books. I haven’t read them, but I’ve always wondered how different they are from the show. It’s interesting they’re both historically questionable.
Within "the Christian market" there such a wide range of beliefs and practices that the shallowness doesn't really surprise me; they're appealing to the lowest common denominator. As a Christian, I have a very low tolerance for "Christian" movies and media.
@@EllieDashwood I don't remember if I've had the opportunity to read all the books in this series, but I do remember the first book & it was very different than the show! Elizabeth does go west to teach, & has a lot to learn. I really liked the book, but had a difficult time with the TV series. I got through season 1, & I think that's as far as I watched... sometimes they play too much with my emotions with these shows, they're too predictable, or sappy, &/or the historical inaccuracies (& modern mindset/point of view,) bug me to the point where I have to be in the right frame of mind to watch it. ...Of course, being the only woman in a house full of boys also means I rarely watch anything Hallmark to begin with! ~Liz
I agree with your comments. I always thought it would be Lucas because that relationship was healthy. Nathan wasn't a healthy relationship. He didn't know her and only said he loved her yet never did anything to prove he loved her. I saw that she saw Jack in Nathan and a lot of times I thought she was going to call Nathan, Jack. Plus Nathan needed her whereas Lucas was always there for her. Nathan still doesn't know Elizabeth is rich too. Lucas was caring about everyone. He felt deeply for Henry and Christopher. He did a lot for Nathan and Allie and anyone that needed help. Elizabeth could be more herself with Lucas. Good analogy of the show 👏👏👏
I loved all the points you brought up 100%. I was team Nathan because I thought they were basing it loosely on the books and couldn’t see past that. If I take the books out of the picture it totally changes my perspective, however it was hard to get past how they portrayed Lucas in the beginning plus the fact that traditionally saloons and saloonkeepers are not usually considered “good characters” in these books. Also we never saw Lucas interacting with little Jack. So for those reasons I was convinced it was Nathan and I wasn’t sure if I was gonna be able to keep watching the show, but all your points have made me see things from a different perspective and I really appreciate that! I think having the show ride that “PC” line confuses the fans and writing a bit too, let the christians be christians and the others not be….we CAN get along despite what the media shows. It would be a good message.
I think they missed the boat doing a storyline of a blended family theme by not choosing Nathan. I do hope Lori comes back and wish media would quit shaming her and her family by constantly bringing up their failing. She paid her price...now let us all move on to the positive. Agree on missing reality historically but its one of the few "clean" TV shows you can watch with your friends and family so still a big fan 😁
I was hoping to see Elizabeth choose Nathan 😔. I want Abigail to return to the show, miss her a lot, but don't want to see Abigail with Henry YUK! Nor do I want to see Nathan with Faith, I could barely tolerate faith with Carson. Also, no chemistry with Molly and Bill. Bill and nathan need new women on the show.
Another point. There is no training or experience required to be a barber/or woman’s hair stylist. Even if you have zero clue what you are doing you will be left in charge of a barber shop for weeks. 😂
Ellie I really appreciate your comments and generally agree with your points of view, except for the fact that it was a good idea to use a love triangle. I personally hated it and I also think that it might had been useful in the beginning but then they dragged it down so long that it got to a point where it was ridiculous. Another thing negative about that was the fact that people got too engaged in the matter to a point where they even had heated arguments. On the other hand, I don't like Lucas because I don't find chemistry at all between him and Elizabeth and for me that's a most, when they had their first kiss I just cringed. There's not passion in him, I find him too bland. Having said that, I think that if the writers had hinted at an early stage that it was him the one and had made a smoother transition I would have accepted the whole plot. But instead they played with our feelings, at the end the show bacame a soap opera. For me the show lost its essence in so many levels that I stopped watching. But that's just my opinion.
Your analysis was perfect! And I think that what I love about Lucas and Elizabeth is that they made it a maore mature deliberate relationship. Like the fact that she picked Nathan's hands in a silly game didnt upset him or throw them off. Because they are adults they didnt take it as seriously as the fans took it. They knew it meant nothing in reality. I loved that Halmark kept it real like that. People complained that the kissing was too intense but there too I felt like she was a mariied woman and not the innocent Elizabeth who first kissed Jack. She showed very strong physical desire towrads Lucas a few times already so the kissing was intense bec they are both adults and its mot their first time around the block!
From the beginning, I thought they were setting it up for Nathan because of their type of conversations that seemed more emotionally connected, but I do like her with Lucas, too. I can see they make a great couple, but I feel like they needed to go deeper with Lucas emotionally. Most of the time, it has just been hearts and flowers concerning Lucas, and many times in Hallmark movies, they decide the down to earth kinda guy usually gets the girl, but I was surprised when they didn't take that typical path. She actually ends up with the guy who is showering her with flowers, fancy dinners, etc. Those things are definitely not bad of course, but on their channel many times they usually are saying romance is in the day to day and doesn't always have to be really expensive gifts. That is the only reason I was surprised because otherwise , yes, Lucas has been the one actually pursuing Elizabeth which shows true love. Of course, Nathan 's secret put the breaks on pursuing Elizabeth. Because of his secret, that automatically defines her choice of Lucas. Otherwise, we would still be waiting for her to make up her mind! The main thing was I feel that if they wanted the audience to really really want her to seem right with Lucas, they would have shown more moments where he was more vulnerable with her. And that she primarily wouldn't have been sidetracked by Nathan every time he came around. It makes her look very fickle and inconsistent with her emotions, but of course that is what they want to do. Make the audience wonder who will it be?:) I love this show! Been watching since the pilot.:) Have to say, it was a good kiss!:):):)
Oh my goodness thank you for this you literally voiced everything I thought about the love triangle and her picking Lucas!!! When you said “they never pick the guy I want I can’t believe this is actually happening” I couldn’t relate more lol! But love how you pointed out that Lucas was the mature, loving option and how hallmark set a good example by having Elizabeth pick him! Like I was SO surprised, but I was so happy they were going that direction rather than the dramatic, tumultuous (and in my opinion, sort of toxic) relationship she had with Nathan! I can see for some people (team Nathan) how that drama made for better television but to me, Lucas’ qualities made him the better life partner and I’m so happy she picked him!
I have been watching WCTH since season 5. I absolutely love it (though, I think they could be a bit more laid back on the feminism, like, let the women mess up a bit more, and the clothes could obviously be much more historically accurate). Myself, and my whole family (I'm a Catholic with a very big family) are Team Nathan. Also, about the Sci-fi part, I've read the books that the series is based on, and they do go into talking about WWI in the other books, but not the main one. Also, the books are very different, and the series is only based on the first one, but it's really good. Anyway, thanks for the great video! I got so excited when I saw this video in my notifications.
I’ve always wondered how they stacked up against the books! That’s super interesting. And yes, this season was SO feminist it was kind of over the top. 😂 Also, I’m so glad you liked the video! 😃
@@elizabethannsherrill3841 It doesn't really have an official title, but the first book is called "When Calls the Heart" and if you look that up on amazon, you should be able to find all 6.
@@e.e.s.6076 Yes, the books are the When Calls the Heart series( 4 books), but I was glad they only referred to the book in the pilot movie which has a different actress than Erin Krakow. In the pilot movie, Elizabeth Thatcher finds a journal belonging to her grandmother who is the original teacher in the books. Obviously, the show decided to do this so that they wouldn't have people complaining that the show was nothing like the books. This way they could write anything they wanted if they made the show about a granddaughter instead of the original character in the books. Michael Landon, Jr. probably got complaints because in his movies the Love Comes Softly series the movies were completely different than the books that Janette Oak wrote. This time he wanted to respect her When Calls the Heart books by pretty much just using the idea that a teacher is in love with a Mountie. Mind you, even though those those movies were different than the books, the movies are still amazing and beautiful. Technically, though I love both the books and the movies. I love each for they are.
Lucas was most certainly the better choice for Elizabeth. He does exhibit unselfish, fully committed love, and there are definitely sparks between him and Elizabeth. Nathan is cocky and self-centered in general except for his relationship with his niece. Summary: yay LUCAS!
I concur Nathan kept acting like he liked her then not like a hot and cold weirdness. Very emotionally immature. Lucas on the other hand is so sweet and considerate.
The choice of Lucas is not a good match. She does not have the chemistry with Lucas like she has with Nathan. Its like the relationship is forced, no real chemistry. But let's see what season 9 will be. I just sent know if she and Lucas will last because they have no chemistry. Like how she and Jack had chemistry and she and Nathan.
Ok so I really wanted her to pick Nathan because it was familiar territory and because baby Jack wouldn't have a lot of change in his life but also Lucas doesn't have children what would he know about raising jack n Jack growing up in bar environment around alcohol and such wouldn't be healthy,just my personal opinion. And I'm glad you talked about Lee's niece falling for a pick pocket like what is up with that how do you see someone stealing from your uncle n think 🤔🤔 wow that's my dream guy awww n look he gave back the stolen item for me wow what a catch NOT
What a silly comment about Jack growing up around a alcohol. He wont be. Also the saloon isnt some shady thing. Its bar and restaurant where literally everyone comes to... and family friendly. So Lucas doesnt have kids, doesnt mean he wont know anything. Its like saying well what does Lee or single men or men without children know about kids.
It's sad that so many think Lucas cannot be a good father, especially since he'll be working with Elizabeth to raise little Jack. Yes, Nathan looks like he's a good father, but remember, he's had Allie since she was 4 yrs old. He's had 6 yrs to get where he is. Plus, because he's a Mountie, I'm sure he's had help along the way. Since he's been in HV, he's asked Elizabeth for advice & Opal's mother's to watch Allie when he's out of town. He's even told Elizabeth that he may need her help now that Allie's getting interested in boys.
We don't have this show in Latin America, but this is very entertaining. I'll check if it's available in our streaming services here - Thanks for the great content Ellie!
Faith and Carson’s relationship story is a hot mess that doesn’t make any sense. Faith is just all over the place emotionally. First its go, don’t miss this opportunity, then its stay, then it’s go but stay. 😄. I feel pretty confident that this is purely the result of bad writing. Or they’re setting the show up for a psychologist and/or relationship counselor to open an office in town in season nine.
Ellie...you are so funny...I agree with all your comments on not accurate times etc however this show is super fun and addictive because....it’s make believe and because it is make believe, things don’t have to make since or follow “logic, reality”.:I think your critique of the show pretty much spoils the enjoyment we Hearties like to fantasize about and escape from the real world, that’s what makes this show a a huge hit! My choice for Elizabeth was Lucas, not because he was MY favorite,but because I thought he was the best fit for her! Thank you Elli..you are a fun voice to listen too! New ideas and thoughts, insights!
They've been having her date and be wooed by Lucas since the middle of season 8. It's a farce to say anyone didn't see it coming. She didn't date Nathan once throughout the whole of season 8. I am team Lucas and thrilled to see what will happen with their love story in season 9
I see your perspective but it was written to look like she might choose Nathan. I agree with Ellie. It was a shock that she chose the mature and healthy guy. That normally doesn’t happen on TV shows.
@@captainjaneway80 It was never written that she would choose Nathan. If you read or follow the writer's information video they put out from the middle of the season they wrote that Lucas would be with Elizabeth that's when they made the decision and that's when all the dating started between the 2 of them. So I think you are looking into this fictitious story a little more than the honest lay out of it due to the fact that you probably liked Nathan more than Lucas. Please watch the writer's explanation of the season you will find it very interesting
I have actually been for Lucas the entire time. I didn’t have any more or less info than anyone else watching the show and I was still worried that she would choose Nathan. What is this writers information you speak of. I would be interested to see if you post a link.
@@captainjaneway80 MIGHT is word. Its a triangle so yeah she MIGHT of chosen but the build up wise this season particularly it seemed very much Lucas, and his act of putting her happiness first, setting her free. Being patient. Lucas literally did what Love embodies. (as for Nathan, he did pressure her and at times it felt like he was putting himself first ( dont telling her the FC secret, he had to be forced, telling her he loves her - thats pressure and it came across him being entitled to her even when she is dating Lucas and seeing her happy in the street with him... he is still thinking about himself rather then seeing E happy that is how he came across, lets not even forget how short he was with her when she tried to address the adoption one person invite thing )
They will not revisit the triangle. Brian Bird said it is done. They are moving forward, and I hope the Nathan fans start to move forward. I wish hs fans would stop saying they are not going to watch anymore. A good fan would be writing and telling Kevin and the world that even if Elizabeth did not pick his character, they have his back. Nathan brought Elizabeth and Lucas together. If Nathan did not go to Lucas and tell him to stick around...Lucas would have been gone. Nathan saw their love and acknowledged it. He went to Lucas to make Elizabeth happy. He freed himself of his guilt for Jack because this time...he gave her back her love.
Lucas is her lifetime love - decision made. Also It wasnt Nathan entirely. Lucas didnt sign (and neither had Elizabeth come to him so he wasnt sure if she wanted him, despite what N about what E said to him etc) Henry was the one who held up a mirror to Lucas... watch that Henry and Lucas scene, and that line Henry says.
He seems more like a business man that happens to own a saloon/upscale restaurant as one of his ventures. Also, he and Elizabeth seem like they are more of the same social standing as we saw when they went on that trip to see Virginia Wolf. They come from similar backgrounds.
“And you can steal from my family members. That’s all I’m looking for in a man!” 😂😂😂 (And what you said about Hallmark advice-giving is SPOT ON! I’ve had the same mini rant before 🤣)
From the beginning when Elizabeth asked Nathan if he knew Jack and he said no, I didn't believe it. It isn't like they lived in San Francisco, Boston or New York they were in the frontier where towns were small and Mounties were a brotherhood. So I always thought we would find out he was lying. So I never saw her with Nathan, now I love the character of Nathan. So when it came out that he took Jack's place on that training mission, sitting on my sofa I screamed I knew he had something to do with Jack.
Thank you for your thoughts. They were interesting. It’s definitely a fictional show but I love it too. I was team Lucas because I think they will have more storyline options. Elizabeth and Lucas are fun together. They laugh and smile together. They have a lot in common. I’m excited to see where the show goes in the 9th season. As for the women roles it’s probably what is going on today that is effecting the storylines. Don’t get me wrong I like that women doing more in the modern world but they are changing history on the show. I wasn’t very fond of how defiant the women were this year. Faith and Clara were not my favorites this season. I understand Elizabeth’s confusion and emotional break downs over letting go of Jack and having to choose. I do think Lucas was her chose at the beginning of the season.
Yep! Nathan was the flawed Character. He lied, A LOT. Lucas was selfless in his genuine love for Elizabeth from the start. Lucas is her True Love and Sole Mate. He always put her first. Nathan did not, he was always thinking about himself.
their clothes are so hilarious it literally looks like the costume a person only had a few hours on the main shopping street of a town today to find them 😂😂
Thank you for your analogy. I totally agree with your comments on why Lucas was chosen instead of Nathan. I'm sure they will have Nathan start a relationship with someone that will become his 'True Love, his Soulmate". All the history information was good to learn, but being honest, I'm 71 yrs old & it was a little too much for this old brain. I'm one of the fans that loves Hallmark for the simplicity of their movies. I don't look into a show as deeply as you, probably should, but heck, I just look at the pretty dresses, etc, LOL.
Omg you are my kindred spirit! I have literally said all of these things, especially the things about Faith. My husband was listening to this with me and laughed when you talked about Faith because he’s heard me say all of those things.
I wasn’t for Lucas because he was too suave, charming, perfect & polished, & that oftentimes is a red flag in real life. But if it’s just a story & he really is meant to be that way, good for her, he was the best pick. They even had the same refined tastes, & seemed to be from the same social class, which had been an obstacle for her & Jack. Now she was getting what was expected for her in that era & would make certain things easier. In that way they were more compatible than Nathan. Nathan seemed more down to earth & real. But when Elizabeth said she had only been interested in him because he was a reminder of Jack (however she worded it), it was like she turned to the camera & told viewers that if they were pro Nathan it was because they missed Jack. That way they couldn’t be too mad that she chose Lucas.
I felt she should have ended up with Nathan. It felt like there was a long slow burn heading in that direction. This season seemed to ignore a lot of moments from seasons 6 and 7. Moments that quite a few people thought would be referenced when tying up this triangle. It's like they completely ignored most of the previous two seasons. You bring up this point when you talk about Faith and Carson. Season 8 had a lot of heartbreak for Nathan and his fans even before the final episode. The only logical explanation for dragging this character through all these fires, or so it seemed, was a beautiful love story at the end. One that resulted in a sweet family. I felt that while Elizabeth was dating Lucas, she was actually building a deeper relationship with Nathan. I saw the possibility of an epic love story. One with forgiveness, redemption, sweet and tender love but also immense passion. I felt like they understood one another and needed one another to continue their healing process. I wish the line about Elizabeth looking for Jack in Nathan was never used. Tell your mom I'm sorry and I don't hold it against her😉. That line upset me and a few others a lot. There was never any indication that this was happening. It was a bit of a slap in the face for the character of Nathan and his fans. Similarities to Elizabeth's relationship with Jack could be seen with both men. So that explanation didn't fly for me. Plus in my eyes, it made Elizabeth seem shallow. I was not happy with how the triangle was handled or resolved this season. Those of us hoping for Nathan kept having carrots dangled in front of us. Keeping that hope alive. Instead Elizabeth should have had her talk with Nathan a lot sooner and given us time to warm up to the idea of Lucas as her choice. It's possible that more fans would have been agreeable to the ending. As it stands now, the ending did not match the story that seemed to be unfolding for Nathan. At least in my opinion and it would seem, the opinions of quite a few others
@Maggie 💯💯💯💯 I agree with everything you said! Also, this might be a slightly obscure point, but as a girl who comes from an incredibly long and strong line of military service (stretching back over 200 years- only about 1% of the US serves in the military, so I know most might not understand this point, but I am a proud military daughter and granddaughter and cousin and so on), I was so incredibly disappointed with how they treated Nathan’s service. The “looking for Jack” in Nathan just because he wears the same uniform- no, that’s not on, that’s not okay. It really felt like a slap in the face to those of us who love members of the armed forces (which can include the police), as if saying their jobs are too dangerous to ever take a chance on and to ever get to know the actual person behind the uniform. I’m completely team Nathan and am still not okay with how awful the show was to him. Lucas should not have been chosen. I’m having a hard time even contemplating watching the next season, as it has gone in a direction that really doesn’t mesh with seasons 1-7 at all. Where are the hard working women who got on with things in season 1? I feel like most of E’s choices in season 8 wouldn’t have been tolerated in season 1 and that is so sad that she was allowed to behave the way she did.
I used to love this show and watched it with my mom when I lived at home during university. We must've not gotten very far though, because I didn't realize that Jack died 😅
💯💯💯!! Your commentary on the show itself, and also Lucas (TL since day one). I’ve been heartbroken for months over season 10😭 If you watched it, are you considering doing an updated version? Also, your high criticism and high affection for the show itself is so real. I know exactly how you feel😅
It’s interesting though because he was hiding something that turned out to be protecting his friend. If you really look at Lucas’s true character he’s really a straight up good guy. The show just had to make him look shady at the get go to make it more interesting I think. But notice when he’s dealing with Henry how angry he gets to be involved in Henry’s shady business practices (the episode when Lucas finds out that Henry undercut other businesses to get ahead). I think that says much about his character.
Did you catch that Florence talked about her daughter's name being Deborah? There is a Deborah in the camping episode in season 4 that I believe reoccurs in The Greatest Christmas Blessing. I think that she is the one that makes a big deal about Bill's figgy pudding.
I have never watched this, but you are so talented and modest. All your videos are so great. You seem to be really nice, kind, intelligent, and you are so pretty. Sometimes people have great channels but if they have pretentious or condescending personalities I never subscribe . You seem like someone who would always be super sweet on trips to cool places and nice to talk to! And you know so much! I’d been looking for a channel like yours. Keep being yourself. You shine bright and are like a breath of fresh air because you are yourself, nothing seems fake.
I have never watched this show because I find Halmark movies, etc. A little too predictable and sentimental. However, this video was sooooo entertaining to watch! And thank you for calling out 'Christian ' shows that don't actually reference the Bible. I feel like all the pop 'inspirational' psychology is an attempt to appeal to viewers who are not Christian. Which is fine I suppose, but feels fake. I want to say, "Be something! Let your Christian characters be Christian and your non Christian characters be non Christian. They can still get along and work together." Anyway, great video!👍
So disagree on the love triangle. Bad idea. Maybe a brief one season. Carried in far too long. Worse yet they divided the fan base. Made them pick "teams."
The division of the fan base is super sad! But I think that is more of the fans deciding to be divided. I know as a Lucas supporter, I planned to keep watching and loving the show even if she chose Nathan (which I actually expected her to do). So Nathan fans now threatening to stop watching because it didn’t go their way are deciding to let it divide them. Which I think is sad they’re making that choice. But I don’t think it’s the shows fault. But that’s just my opinion.
Picking teams is fun as long as we don’t take ourselves too seriously. But I must admit. I would have been sorely disappointed had Nathan won. I had a different perspective on the length of the triangle. I feel like it really got people vested in the shows.
@@captainjaneway80 For all of the viewers that got their wish for Elizabeth to pick a gambler saloon owner , they should be elated because the writers and the producers made it to be that way ! To fill a void left by two giant characters , Jack passing and Abigail leaving town , they had to do something to keep the interest of the show favorable to the viewers and to keep the ratings from falling ! The team Gambler fans got caught up in a harlequin style romance novel approach rather than the concept that made WCTH such a wonderful.show ! They created a character that the promos depicted as having a mysterious past and quickly they have him become a love interest of Elizabeth ! They had the viewers anticipating a continue story of a Mountie and her but they purposely did not have Nathan to have any romantic opportunities to show her how much he cared for her ! Then To deliberately make a false scenario where it appeared that she had resorted back towards Nathan , they come up with an excuse that was so outlandish and this is why the many fans disagreed with their writing a gambler to win her heart ! Who creates a " one sided " triangle where only one man gets 100% of quality time , that makes no sense ! Then for all of the Team Gambler fans that only seed that he did this for her , he was patient , he thought of her more than himself , well duh ! It was written to be that way , but had they kept to the theme of Miss O's books , there would not have been a gambler saloon owner winning her heart ! They totally disappointed many long time loyal fans with taking as they said " the riskier of choices " ! To say so many unkind things towards the disgruntled fans is not warranted and the only reason they are doing so ugly , is the guy they wanted won ! To risk losing a great portion of fans just to create something to fill a missing void , yes that risk might come back to haunt them ! No show will survive with that many fans stop watching ! No true fans want that to happen but it comes along with taking risks ! Do the Team Nathan fans agree with the finale , absolutely not , but it's their show and they can do whatever they choose to do , regardless of how the fans like it or not ! This was such a wonderful show but not anymore , in many people's opinion !
Did you know that Logan Williams played Miles Montgomery died of accidental drug overdose. Some of the kids on the past When Calls the Heart is filming different TV show series or movies projects.
Lol you are making my Saturday morning! My favorite Hallmark quote, 'Go boldly in the direction of your dreams! Live the life you imagine.' It's from a Hallmark movie but I'm expecting Elizabeth to use it in WCTH. 😀
@@EllieDashwood I hate the beard this season! He was so much hotter in season 6 and 7 with the scruff. I think they were trying to make him look older so she doesnt look older than him.
So he hasnt got a niece or a kid. But he appreciate family just like he apprecites his family and feeling of it. He will become a family man over time. Jeez Lee hasnt got a kid, but shall i say he isnt a family or Jesse or Bill.
Loved your review and your thoughts- Have you ever watched Signed Sealed Delivered on Hallmark channels- would love to hear your opinion of those movies?
I always thought Nathan was immature in the way he responded when things didn't go his way. Lucas is very mature & patient & loving. I think they will be great together ❤
The optics didn't match the outcome. There was so much chemistry and history between Nathan and Elizabeth and I did not feel it was all about the Mountie factor. Lucas did do a better job of courting her. He was.more physically available but I felt Nathan was more emotionally honest and available. This choice made me care less about Elizabeth's character. I like Lucas but this decision made me very sad for Nathan and Allie.
The Fiona & Mike thing was odd. She was cool, confident, beautiful, & he was not at all compatible with her. Faith & Carson had been such a good match, but then Faith suddenly became very unlikeable & confusing.
I agree with you on Lucas. I also realize that Elizabeth and Lucas has more in common in regards to their family fortunes. They're more equals in that regard...js
I am disappointed that Elizabeth chose Lucas knowing that he was s very sdcc shady character who did not become any better There was intrigue attached to his activities. You could not trust him. It was fumb to choose him Nathan has been noble and decent.
It certainly appeared that way at first! But then there was the episode where it came out that the only reason Lucas appeared shady was because he was in hiding because he did the brave and noble thing of helping a widow being taken advantage of by criminals and now the criminals were after him for helping her.
@@EllieDashwood Yep this exactly. I feel like some ppl have either ignored that, it was dealth with in the same season. We found out Lucas is a good man overall.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts! I also really appreciate you bringing Scripture into the conversation!
Aw, thank you!!!
Lucas all the way. That man Do know how to love. Every girl should have a guy like this. Caring, thoughtful, supportive, kind romantic. and not to forget also smart, sophisticated, witty and Spicy
I was leaning more toward Nathan, but at the end of the season, I didn't really care which one she picked as long as she picked one of them! I was just tired of the triangle lasting three seasons. Now everyone can finally move on. I'm just sad that her choice has angered so many fans. I wasn't surprised to see who she picked after watching the preview for the finale. The way the preview was cut with certain characters on screen while Rosemary was talking about some people being around for a season and some for a lifetime, I just knew in my gut that was a red herring.
On to the other relationships. I was so happy to see that Henry and Abigail have been writing to each other. I've wanted them to get together for a while now. Lee and Rosemary are always wonderful. I like the idea of Mike and Fiona possibly starting as friends and moving on to a romantic relationship, but I'm also okay if they just remain friends. I think Mike has feelings for her, but I'm not sure she'll return them. Florence and Ned are really cute together. I'm also on the fence about Molly and Bill. Rachel and Christopher were pretty baffling, and I'm glad they didn't stick around in town for a long time (sorry). I've never really liked Clara and Jesse, so I'm not very invested in their storyline. The Canfields are a nice new addition. I really like Minnie as the new voice of reason. I hadn't noticed that she seemed to be taking on Abigail's role until you pointed it out. Allie and Robert are cute, but I'm not sure the writers will spend the energy on keeping up with their budding relationship. I can only think of one other schoolyard romance (with Emily's brother, Gabe) they've had on the show and it lasted a few episodes.
As for Faith and Carter, I have no idea where that relationship is going. They seemed so hot and cold all season. One episode, Faith is telling Carson he can't miss his opportunity, but he wants to stay with her instead. The next episode, he tells her he's leaving and she gets mad because he's going? Lady, you literally just told him to leave! Then the whole thing with the ring was weird. I don't know. I've never really liked them together. I've always felt that they were only dating because their proximity while working together kept them close. Now, with Carson gone, I wouldn't be surprised if Faith moves on. I didn't even remember the thing about Faith needing to work under a qualified doctor for two years before becoming a doctor herself. I won't be surprised if it's never brought up again.
Also, the only thing in the season that really made me mad was when Elizabeth and Rosemary were fighting. I love their friendship and it was so tough to see them not talking to each other. I'm glad it didn't last long.
Sorry for the novel in your comments. I guess I just had a lot to say.
I was so upset by Elizabeth and Rosemary fighting too!!! And agree with you on so much stuff. And I think it’s sad how angry fans have gotten over who she picked.
I was shocked when chose Lucas. For 3 seasons we had to be in teams.Mr.Bird the writer had 2 scripts.He made a big mistake! A big one, and I dont appreciate being called a troll.
There are hundreds of us, who will not be watching. Kevin deserves more than a few
Movies.I am not paying for Hallmark anymore!
I am removing Hallmark from my bill. They hurt the fans and they hurt Kevin😢😢
@@Kitanaangel49 Get a life
Great video and analysis! I never doubted that Lucas would be Elizabeth's choice after the "Unconditional Love" scene in Season 7, Episode 4. The writers conveyed what Lucas believed Elizabeth deserved: to be loved unconditionally. Given that he was already in love with her, it was implied that this is what HE wanted to give her if they ended up together. Then we had the Union City trip, where there was so much foreshadowing about waiting and being patient (a theme that comes back in Season 8.)
I think Season 8 was pretty much about Lucas and Elizabeth's journey to finding each other. When Lucas set Elizabeth free, it felt like the typical Hallmark trope where the endgame couple has angst before the resolution. So glad Elizabeth chose the right guy for her! This is a love story I'm going to enjoy seeing play out.
I was noticing a lot of anti Lucas commenters are hung up on the fact that he seemed shady at the get go. They forget about the real reason he was keeping secrets was for a noble cause. Hence we are left with the fact that he has the vice of gambling as his only downfall. Apparently he must be keeping it in check because he isn’t broke. (I don’t condone gambling). But my main point is that when Rosemary first came to the show how did we feel about her? And now look at her she’s half of one of the best couples on the show and has changed from the jealous and vane woman she was to a true friend and a loving wife and an overall good neighbor. Of course this may be because Elizabeth’s other best friend got cancelled but either way she is not who she was on the first season. Completely different lady where it counts (how she cares about other people now). Could it be the same with Lucas? Only he just seemed shady because of a misunderstanding. But he always cared about people.
Secrets are secrets, just like N kept the secret from E about Fort Clay, yet you all condemned N..L doesn't get a pass noble of not...it's still a secret
Lucas seemed shady because he was too charming. It felt like red flags in how he was so perfect & polished & too good to be true.
Great points!
I have to say I love that you point out all the mistakes that the writers or whoever made up this show. Because everything you just said is 100% true.I'm one of those people that do the same thing I look at things that should have been and things that shouldn't have been. But five stars 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟 to you.
I will be okay with the way it turned out! But I will be up set if Nathan gets stuck with Faith! That will turn me off! Hope a new lady show's up for him!!!!!
I wondered if they where hinting in the Nathan/Faith direction when he was treating his hand in the last episode. Yeah... I don’t really see that relationship working out. 😂
Been a rooting for Lucas since the start. So glad it was him. They had the build up and relationship. And he puts her first and challenges her. Elizabeth lights up with him. They share alot of things. Cant wait to see their love story in season 9
Iam looking forward to the new stories that's to come! Know Nathan will be sad for awhile! So will Nathan's team! Let's see if Lucas makes a good father as love is more then just a good lover! Little Jack needs a trust worthy man in his life now! Looking forward to next season's! I have watched it from the start and will till the end!
I've always wanted her to pick Lucas! So glad she did!
I loved your analysis. I couldn’t agree more. I have been a fan of Lucas since season 6. I liked Nathan, but always found him secretive. And we found out why this year. I’ve heard all the comments that Elizabeth has to be with a Mountie because of the original books. But in the book Jack didn’t die. So that premise died with him. I agree with you that having Elizabeth and Lucas together allows Elizabeth to experience a more mature romantic relationship. She was so naive when she married Jack. I’m so looking forward to seeing their romance grow in Season 9. I’m also hoping for some funny scenes of Lucas and little Jack. Lucas was so good with Allie. I think he’s going to be a great father.
I love Lucas and the fact that they end up together..but I have a question...Why did they do the whole hand holding thing? They spent so many episodes focussing on her overcoming being able to first hold hands with Lucas first in private then in public. Only to have her pick Nathans hands in that game? Why would they do that? Just wondering if you have thoughts on that. I can see why Nathan fans were frustrated by that. That and the whole "Love is worth fighting for theme" I didnt get that.
Also I do think the writers couls have done better making the conversations between Lucas and Elizabeth a bit deeper amd more meaningful during their courtship. Would have made the ending make more sense.
Yes, it would have. Thank you!
that's bc N was suppose to be the one she choose, instead HM did the old "bait and switch"
The fact that L and E have not had ONE SINGLE DEEP CONVERSATION worries me...A true love will have at least a few conversations before you choose that person to be a suitor..There is NO chemistry among E and L, none..N and E had those deep conversations. You can't date someone for a whole year and don't talk about things like LJ,your dreams, your hopes, your hurts, etc. etc..E still doesn't know anything about L father or his pass. She also doesn't know about L hiring Henry son to spy on him and the fact that WCTH writers decided to turn L into N2.0 should concern everyone. If they thought E and L were so right for each other, why change L??? Also, according to KM, the decision to whom E chose did not come until late in season 8. Go back and watch his interview, EK also said the same thing..So for all of you that keep stating, "I never doubted it would be L and E" you are soooooooo wrong. The script was flipped for the "bait and switch" hook, line, and sinker.
I completely agree! I also was resigned to her choosing Nathan but really like Lucas for the same reasons you did. Nathan couldn’t seem to see past his own desire, even after she said no and was actually dating Lucas. Although she was sending mixed signals she had made her choice and he didn’t respect it. That bothered me. Even after Lucas told him to do what is best for Elizabeth and Ally and not just himself. He is a good guy but it seemed his masculine pride and ego got the best of him..
So much yes! That bothered me so much! It showed so little respect for both Elizabeth and Lucas. I think he was just blinded by his own desires. 😔
I found Nathan rude since the start with Lucas. Also his attitude towards Elizabeth was something. He also felt like he was entitled to Elizabeth and just going me me me . It was off putting. Lucas put Elizabeth first each time and being patient and understanding and then finally setting her free... for her to find her way back to him. You know how that saying goes
He had no business telling Nathan anything!!! Of all the nerve!!! I can't stand Lucas and will not be watching!!#
@@janethenderson9818 I am sorry you are so angry and disappointed but the conversation I am referencing happened because Nathan went to Lucas to tell him he was not giving up his fight for Elizabeth. The nerve and inappropriate behavior was on Nathan’s part not Lucas, which was part of my point. I hope Nathan gets a wonderful story, he is a good character. I am looking forward to watching it unfold. I respect your difference of opinion though and wish you the best..
I wasn't surprised about the ending....it didn't make sense Elizabeth and Nathan, I thought from the beginning like your mom did... Elizabeth was looking at Jack everytime she looked at Nathan. For those thinking that Lucas could not be a good father figure for Jack, think how good he was with Allie more than one time. Also, like you, I thought for sure she would have ended up with Nathan because the majority of viewers wanted that to happen. But so very excited for next season to see E and L together....hope there is a Christmas show!
Yes! Like you, I think Lucas would be a great father. He was so good with Allie. And really, what a makes a great father is a man of character and good qualities. And he has that. If anything, Elizabeth was always having to coach Nathan on how to be a good father figure to Allie. So it’s not like he exactly had that role figured out himself. 😂
@@EllieDashwood Lucas has been good with Allie few times. He taught the kids to make paper lanterns at xmas. And he did a carnival for xmas so it felt like the family feeling he always had at xmas... Elizabeth pointing that out to him. And not just that he as appreciation for family - cos he values his family even if he didnt see them as much when he was a child only at xmas it seems
Definitely Team Lucas. I thought all along Elizabeth was projecting the feeling she had for Jack toward Nathan. When she walked out of Lucas' office and fanned herself, it told exactly what she felt for Lucas. I think her continued attention to Nathan was pure guilt. If she had told Nathan that she was not IN love with him earlier in the triangle, he would have backed off. He knew that not only was she totally in love with Lucas, but Lucas was totally in love with her.
Ellie, you seem like such a lovely person! Your videos make me happy. The part about "Pintrist board quotes" in place of actually representing an authentic Christian character with real faith and priciples; Ellie, I love how you just described a thing in movies I have seen SO much. I wonder if it's a desire by movie makers to cash in on a demographic, but having limited understanding of said demographic and little interest in understanding them? Maybe an added desire to be PC makes such characters appear shallowly Christian-ish and inauthentic? I'm not sure why, but I have seen what you are talking about. I also love how you can express your love for something while at the same time being fully aware of its faults. I felt the same way about this story. (I haven't watched the series but read the books) I think for me the story did a good job tapping into human emotion and caused me to connect with the characters, but at the same time the history part of it was often all wrong. When I read the books, It felt like an alternate universe to me too.
Aw, that you *so* much! 😃😊 I really wonder if how they represent Christians is like you said, driven by the desire to be PC. And that’s so interesting about the books. I haven’t read them, but I’ve always wondered how different they are from the show. It’s interesting they’re both historically questionable.
Within "the Christian market" there such a wide range of beliefs and practices that the shallowness doesn't really surprise me; they're appealing to the lowest common denominator.
As a Christian, I have a very low tolerance for "Christian" movies and media.
@@EllieDashwood I don't remember if I've had the opportunity to read all the books in this series, but I do remember the first book & it was very different than the show! Elizabeth does go west to teach, & has a lot to learn. I really liked the book, but had a difficult time with the TV series. I got through season 1, & I think that's as far as I watched... sometimes they play too much with my emotions with these shows, they're too predictable, or sappy, &/or the historical inaccuracies (& modern mindset/point of view,) bug me to the point where I have to be in the right frame of mind to watch it. ...Of course, being the only woman in a house full of boys also means I rarely watch anything Hallmark to begin with! ~Liz
I am a Lucas & Elisabeth fan all the way!
I agree with your comments. I always thought it would be Lucas because that relationship was healthy. Nathan wasn't a healthy relationship. He didn't know her and only said he loved her yet never did anything to prove he loved her. I saw that she saw Jack in Nathan and a lot of times I thought she was going to call Nathan, Jack. Plus Nathan needed her whereas Lucas was always there for her. Nathan still doesn't know Elizabeth is rich too. Lucas was caring about everyone. He felt deeply for Henry and Christopher. He did a lot for Nathan and Allie and anyone that needed help. Elizabeth could be more herself with Lucas. Good analogy of the show 👏👏👏
So glad it was Lucas!!! What a relief!!!
I loved all the points you brought up 100%. I was team Nathan because I thought they were basing it loosely on the books and couldn’t see past that. If I take the books out of the picture it totally changes my perspective, however it was hard to get past how they portrayed Lucas in the beginning plus the fact that traditionally saloons and saloonkeepers are not usually considered “good characters” in these books. Also we never saw Lucas interacting with little Jack. So for those reasons I was convinced it was Nathan and I wasn’t sure if I was gonna be able to keep watching the show, but all your points have made me see things from a different perspective and I really appreciate that! I think having the show ride that “PC” line confuses the fans and writing a bit too, let the christians be christians and the others not be….we CAN get along despite what the media shows. It would be a good message.
I think they missed the boat doing a storyline of a blended family theme by not choosing Nathan.
I do hope Lori comes back and wish media would quit shaming her and her family by constantly bringing up their failing. She paid her price...now let us all move on to the positive.
Agree on missing reality historically but its one of the few "clean" TV shows you can watch with your friends and family so still a big fan 😁
It’s so hard to find clean shows! And yes, I love it for that reason too!
I hope the original Abigail comes back too.
I was hoping to see Elizabeth choose Nathan 😔. I want Abigail to return to the show, miss her a lot, but don't want to see Abigail with Henry YUK! Nor do I want to see Nathan with Faith, I could barely tolerate faith with Carson. Also, no chemistry with Molly and Bill. Bill and nathan need new women on the show.
I REALLY hope they’d don’t try to match up Nathan with Faith! That would be awful!
@@EllieDashwood really awfil!
A School Teacher With a Saloon Keeper not right There is something fishy about Lucas and his dealing's 🤔🤔
It was looking that way though on the last episode.
@@cherylbrown485 yep
I would love to see you react to Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman. It was my favorite show as a teen.
I agree with writers, who were all new this season, I wanted Lucas for Elizabeth during the entire season. I think this was the best one I watched.
Team Lucas! I have always wanted he & Elizabeth together.
Another point. There is no training or experience required to be a barber/or woman’s hair stylist. Even if you have zero clue what you are doing you will be left in charge of a barber shop for weeks. 😂
This is so true! Anyone can cut and style hair apparently 😂
Ellie I really appreciate your comments and generally agree with your points of view, except for the fact that it was a good idea to use a love triangle. I personally hated it and I also think that it might had been useful in the beginning but then they dragged it down so long that it got to a point where it was ridiculous. Another thing negative about that was the fact that people got too engaged in the matter to a point where they even had heated arguments. On the other hand, I don't like Lucas because I don't find chemistry at all between him and Elizabeth and for me that's a most, when they had their first kiss I just cringed. There's not passion in him, I find him too bland. Having said that, I think that if the writers had hinted at an early stage that it was him the one and had made a smoother transition I would have accepted the whole plot. But instead they played with our feelings, at the end the show bacame a soap opera. For me the show lost its essence in so many levels that I stopped watching. But that's just my opinion.
I am very excited Elizabeth chose Lucas.
Your analysis was perfect! And I think that what I love about Lucas and Elizabeth is that they made it a maore mature deliberate relationship. Like the fact that she picked Nathan's hands in a silly game didnt upset him or throw them off. Because they are adults they didnt take it as seriously as the fans took it. They knew it meant nothing in reality. I loved that Halmark kept it real like that. People complained that the kissing was too intense but there too I felt like she was a mariied woman and not the innocent Elizabeth who first kissed Jack. She showed very strong physical desire towrads Lucas a few times already so the kissing was intense bec they are both adults and its mot their first time around the block!
From the beginning, I thought they were setting it up for Nathan because of their type of conversations that seemed more emotionally connected, but I do like her with Lucas, too. I can see they make a great couple, but I feel like they needed to go deeper with Lucas emotionally. Most of the time, it has just been hearts and flowers concerning Lucas, and many times in Hallmark movies, they decide the down to earth kinda guy usually gets the girl, but I was surprised when they didn't take that typical path. She actually ends up with the guy who is showering her with flowers, fancy dinners, etc. Those things are definitely not bad of course, but on their channel many times they usually are saying romance is in the day to day and doesn't always have to be really expensive gifts. That is the only reason I was surprised because otherwise , yes, Lucas has been the one actually pursuing Elizabeth which shows true love. Of course, Nathan 's secret put the breaks on pursuing Elizabeth. Because of his secret, that automatically defines her choice of Lucas. Otherwise, we would still be waiting for her to make up her mind! The main thing was I feel that if they wanted the audience to really really want her to seem right with Lucas, they would have shown more moments where he was more vulnerable with her. And that she primarily wouldn't have been sidetracked by Nathan every time he came around. It makes her look very fickle and inconsistent with her emotions, but of course that is what they want to do. Make the audience wonder who will it be?:) I love this show! Been watching since the pilot.:) Have to say, it was a good kiss!:):):)
Oh my goodness thank you for this you literally voiced everything I thought about the love triangle and her picking Lucas!!! When you said “they never pick the guy I want I can’t believe this is actually happening” I couldn’t relate more lol! But love how you pointed out that Lucas was the mature, loving option and how hallmark set a good example by having Elizabeth pick him! Like I was SO surprised, but I was so happy they were going that direction rather than the dramatic, tumultuous (and in my opinion, sort of toxic) relationship she had with Nathan! I can see for some people (team Nathan) how that drama made for better television but to me, Lucas’ qualities made him the better life partner and I’m so happy she picked him!
I have been watching WCTH since season 5. I absolutely love it (though, I think they could be a bit more laid back on the feminism, like, let the women mess up a bit more, and the clothes could obviously be much more historically accurate). Myself, and my whole family (I'm a Catholic with a very big family) are Team Nathan. Also, about the Sci-fi part, I've read the books that the series is based on, and they do go into talking about WWI in the other books, but not the main one. Also, the books are very different, and the series is only based on the first one, but it's really good.
Anyway, thanks for the great video! I got so excited when I saw this video in my notifications.
I’ve always wondered how they stacked up against the books! That’s super interesting. And yes, this season was SO feminist it was kind of over the top. 😂 Also, I’m so glad you liked the video! 😃
I totally agree with you.
What books are they based on
@@elizabethannsherrill3841 It doesn't really have an official title, but the first book is called "When Calls the Heart" and if you look that up on amazon, you should be able to find all 6.
@@e.e.s.6076 Yes, the books are the When Calls the Heart series( 4 books), but I was glad they only referred to the book in the pilot movie which has a different actress than Erin Krakow. In the pilot movie, Elizabeth Thatcher finds a journal belonging to her grandmother who is the original teacher in the books. Obviously, the show decided to do this so that they wouldn't have people complaining that the show was nothing like the books. This way they could write anything they wanted if they made the show about a granddaughter instead of the original character in the books. Michael Landon, Jr. probably got complaints because in his movies the Love Comes Softly series the movies were completely different than the books that Janette Oak wrote. This time he wanted to respect her When Calls the Heart books by pretty much just using the idea that a teacher is in love with a Mountie. Mind you, even though those those movies were different than the books, the movies are still amazing and beautiful. Technically, though I love both the books and the movies. I love each for they are.
but then... she turns him down saying "it would be too hard if you died", and then... she gets with Lucas 😂😂😂
I died
I felt Lucas was the right choice almost from the start. He showed his love in so many ways. I can't wait to see more of their romance.
Lucas was most certainly the better choice for Elizabeth. He does exhibit unselfish, fully committed love, and there are definitely sparks between him and Elizabeth. Nathan is cocky and self-centered in general except for his relationship with his niece. Summary: yay LUCAS!
I love the sparks between them too! ✨
I concur Nathan kept acting like he liked her then not like a hot and cold weirdness. Very emotionally immature. Lucas on the other hand is so sweet and considerate.
The choice of Lucas is not a good match. She does not have the chemistry with Lucas like she has with Nathan. Its like the relationship is forced, no real chemistry. But let's see what season 9 will be. I just sent know if she and Lucas will last because they have no chemistry. Like how she and Jack had chemistry and she and Nathan.
Ok so I really wanted her to pick Nathan because it was familiar territory and because baby Jack wouldn't have a lot of change in his life but also Lucas doesn't have children what would he know about raising jack n Jack growing up in bar environment around alcohol and such wouldn't be healthy,just my personal opinion. And I'm glad you talked about Lee's niece falling for a pick pocket like what is up with that how do you see someone stealing from your uncle n think 🤔🤔 wow that's my dream guy awww n look he gave back the stolen item for me wow what a catch NOT
Yay, I’m glad I’m not the only one who though the pickpocket romance was awful! 😂
@@EllieDashwood nope I got red flags right off the back
What a silly comment about Jack growing up around a alcohol. He wont be. Also the saloon isnt some shady thing. Its bar and restaurant where literally everyone comes to... and family friendly. So Lucas doesnt have kids, doesnt mean he wont know anything. Its like saying well what does Lee or single men or men without children know about kids.
It's sad that so many think Lucas cannot be a good father, especially since he'll be working with Elizabeth to raise little Jack. Yes, Nathan looks like he's a good father, but remember, he's had Allie since she was 4 yrs old. He's had 6 yrs to get where he is. Plus, because he's a Mountie, I'm sure he's had help along the way. Since he's been in HV, he's asked Elizabeth for advice & Opal's mother's to watch Allie when he's out of town. He's even told Elizabeth that he may need her help now that Allie's getting interested in boys.
We don't have this show in Latin America, but this is very entertaining. I'll check if it's available in our streaming services here - Thanks for the great content Ellie!
Thank you! I hope you can find it because it’s awesome! 😃
In brazil it's on netflix, but I don't know for the rest of latin america
Faith and Carson’s relationship story is a hot mess that doesn’t make any sense. Faith is just all over the place emotionally. First its go, don’t miss this opportunity, then its stay, then it’s go but stay. 😄. I feel pretty confident that this is purely the result of bad writing. Or they’re setting the show up for a psychologist and/or relationship counselor to open an office in town in season nine.
I love Lucas! ❤️
Ellie...you are so funny...I agree with all your comments on not accurate times etc however this show is super fun and addictive because....it’s make believe and because it is make believe, things don’t have to make since or follow “logic, reality”.:I think your critique of the show pretty much spoils the enjoyment we Hearties like to fantasize about and escape from the real world, that’s what makes this show a a huge hit! My choice for Elizabeth was Lucas, not because he was MY favorite,but because I thought he was the best fit for her! Thank you Elli..you are a fun voice to listen too! New ideas and thoughts, insights!
Love love love Lucas and Beth love 💕 them both
They've been having her date and be wooed by Lucas since the middle of season 8. It's a farce to say anyone didn't see it coming.
She didn't date Nathan once throughout the whole of season 8. I am team Lucas and thrilled to see what will happen with their love story in season 9
I’m so excited for season 9! And yes, they have had such a romantic back story compared to her and Nathan. Good point!
I see your perspective but it was written to look like she might choose Nathan. I agree with Ellie. It was a shock that she chose the mature and healthy guy. That normally doesn’t happen on TV shows.
@@captainjaneway80 It was never written that she would choose Nathan. If you read or follow the writer's information video they put out from the middle of the season they wrote that Lucas would be with Elizabeth that's when they made the decision and that's when all the dating started between the 2 of them. So I think you are looking into this fictitious story a little more than the honest lay out of it due to the fact that you probably liked Nathan more than Lucas. Please watch the writer's explanation of the season you will find it very interesting
I have actually been for Lucas the entire time. I didn’t have any more or less info than anyone else watching the show and I was still worried that she would choose Nathan. What is this writers information you speak of. I would be interested to see if you post a link.
@@captainjaneway80 MIGHT is word. Its a triangle so yeah she MIGHT of chosen but the build up wise this season particularly it seemed very much Lucas, and his act of putting her happiness first, setting her free. Being patient. Lucas literally did what Love embodies. (as for Nathan, he did pressure her and at times it felt like he was putting himself first ( dont telling her the FC secret, he had to be forced, telling her he loves her - thats pressure and it came across him being entitled to her even when she is dating Lucas and seeing her happy in the street with him... he is still thinking about himself rather then seeing E happy that is how he came across, lets not even forget how short he was with her when she tried to address the adoption one person invite thing )
They will not revisit the triangle. Brian Bird said it is done. They are moving forward, and I hope the Nathan fans start to move forward. I wish hs fans would stop saying they are not going to watch anymore. A good fan would be writing and telling Kevin and the world that even if Elizabeth did not pick his character, they have his back. Nathan brought Elizabeth and Lucas together. If Nathan did not go to Lucas and tell him to stick around...Lucas would have been gone. Nathan saw their love and acknowledged it. He went to Lucas to make Elizabeth happy. He freed himself of his guilt for Jack because this time...he gave her back her love.
Lucas is her lifetime love - decision made. Also It wasnt Nathan entirely. Lucas didnt sign (and neither had Elizabeth come to him so he wasnt sure if she wanted him, despite what N about what E said to him etc) Henry was the one who held up a mirror to Lucas... watch that Henry and Lucas scene, and that line Henry says.
@@varisol6675 Lucas is her love we agree. They will be very happy.
Spare me!
@@janethenderson9818 Save it!
Also if people stop watching we will lose the only good quality clean show on TV!!
Definitely Team Lucas. Nothing against Nathan. He's very nice. But Elizabeth has already done the whole Mountie Wife and Widow thing.
Agreed! I felt like it would be so not genuine for her to go for a guy just because he’s a Mountie like Jack.
I couldn't agree more definitely team Lucas!! 🤍💚
A Saloon keeper and A School Teacher 🤔🤔 that Lucas. seems like he's hiding something dealing with some bad people
He seems more like a business man that happens to own a saloon/upscale restaurant as one of his ventures. Also, he and Elizabeth seem like they are more of the same social standing as we saw when they went on that trip to see Virginia Wolf. They come from similar backgrounds.
“And you can steal from my family members. That’s all I’m looking for in a man!” 😂😂😂 (And what you said about Hallmark advice-giving is SPOT ON! I’ve had the same mini rant before 🤣)
From the beginning when Elizabeth asked Nathan if he knew Jack and he said no, I didn't believe it. It isn't like they lived in San Francisco, Boston or New York they were in the frontier where towns were small and Mounties were a brotherhood. So I always thought we would find out he was lying. So I never saw her with Nathan, now I love the character of Nathan. So when it came out that he took Jack's place on that training mission, sitting on my sofa I screamed I knew he had something to do with Jack.
Happy for Elizabeth and Lucas ❣️
Yes! 💕💕💕
Yes, I am glad she chose Lucas.
So happy Elizabeth chose Lucas.
There’s something shifty and secretive about Nathan. Elisabeth chose the right man with Lucas.
Thank you for your thoughts. They were interesting. It’s definitely a fictional show but I love it too. I was team Lucas because I think they will have more storyline options. Elizabeth and Lucas are fun together. They laugh and smile together. They have a lot in common. I’m excited to see where the show goes in the 9th season. As for the women roles it’s probably what is going on today that is effecting the storylines. Don’t get me wrong I like that women doing more in the modern world but they are changing history on the show. I wasn’t very fond of how defiant the women were this year. Faith and Clara were not my favorites this season. I understand Elizabeth’s confusion and emotional break downs over letting go of Jack and having to choose. I do think Lucas was her chose at the beginning of the season.
Yep! Nathan was the flawed Character. He lied, A LOT. Lucas was selfless in his genuine love for Elizabeth from the start. Lucas is her True Love and Sole Mate. He always put her first. Nathan did not, he was always thinking about himself.
their clothes are so hilarious it literally looks like the costume a
person only had a few hours on the main shopping street of a town today to find them 😂😂
I meant Nathan is better off not getting Elizabeth. Bathe deserves someone better so I'm glad she didn't pick Nathan.
they both needed that indirectly being responsible for J's death be not hanging over their heads.
Thank you for your analogy. I totally agree with your comments on why Lucas was chosen instead of Nathan. I'm sure they will have Nathan start a relationship with someone that will become his 'True Love, his Soulmate". All the history information was good to learn, but being honest, I'm 71 yrs old & it was a little too much for this old brain. I'm one of the fans that loves Hallmark for the simplicity of their movies. I don't look into a show as deeply as you, probably should, but heck, I just look at the pretty dresses, etc, LOL.
Team Lucas!! Yay!!
Omg you are my kindred spirit! I have literally said all of these things, especially the things about Faith. My husband was listening to this with me and laughed when you talked about Faith because he’s heard me say all of those things.
I wasn’t for Lucas because he was too suave, charming, perfect & polished, & that oftentimes is a red flag in real life. But if it’s just a story & he really is meant to be that way, good for her, he was the best pick. They even had the same refined tastes, & seemed to be from the same social class, which had been an obstacle for her & Jack. Now she was getting what was expected for her in that era & would make certain things easier. In that way they were more compatible than Nathan.
Nathan seemed more down to earth & real. But when Elizabeth said she had only been interested in him because he was a reminder of Jack (however she worded it), it was like she turned to the camera & told viewers that if they were pro Nathan it was because they missed Jack. That way they couldn’t be too mad that she chose Lucas.
Team Nathan
I felt she should have ended up with Nathan. It felt like there was a long slow burn heading in that direction. This season seemed to ignore a lot of moments from seasons 6 and 7. Moments that quite a few people thought would be referenced when tying up this triangle. It's like they completely ignored most of the previous two seasons. You bring up this point when you talk about Faith and Carson. Season 8 had a lot of heartbreak for Nathan and his fans even before the final episode. The only logical explanation for dragging this character through all these fires, or so it seemed, was a beautiful love story at the end. One that resulted in a sweet family. I felt that while Elizabeth was dating Lucas, she was actually building a deeper relationship with Nathan. I saw the possibility of an epic love story. One with forgiveness, redemption, sweet and tender love but also immense passion. I felt like they understood one another and needed one another to continue their healing process. I wish the line about Elizabeth looking for Jack in Nathan was never used. Tell your mom I'm sorry and I don't hold it against her😉. That line upset me and a few others a lot. There was never any indication that this was happening. It was a bit of a slap in the face for the character of Nathan and his fans. Similarities to Elizabeth's relationship with Jack could be seen with both men. So that explanation didn't fly for me. Plus in my eyes, it made Elizabeth seem shallow. I was not happy with how the triangle was handled or resolved this season. Those of us hoping for Nathan kept having carrots dangled in front of us. Keeping that hope alive. Instead Elizabeth should have had her talk with Nathan a lot sooner and given us time to warm up to the idea of Lucas as her choice. It's possible that more fans would have been agreeable to the ending. As it stands now, the ending did not match the story that seemed to be unfolding for Nathan. At least in my opinion and it would seem, the opinions of quite a few others
@Maggie 💯💯💯💯 I agree with everything you said!
Also, this might be a slightly obscure point, but as a girl who comes from an incredibly long and strong line of military service (stretching back over 200 years- only about 1% of the US serves in the military, so I know most might not understand this point, but I am a proud military daughter and granddaughter and cousin and so on), I was so incredibly disappointed with how they treated Nathan’s service. The “looking for Jack” in Nathan just because he wears the same uniform- no, that’s not on, that’s not okay. It really felt like a slap in the face to those of us who love members of the armed forces (which can include the police), as if saying their jobs are too dangerous to ever take a chance on and to ever get to know the actual person behind the uniform. I’m completely team Nathan and am still not okay with how awful the show was to him. Lucas should not have been chosen. I’m having a hard time even contemplating watching the next season, as it has gone in a direction that really doesn’t mesh with seasons 1-7 at all. Where are the hard working women who got on with things in season 1? I feel like most of E’s choices in season 8 wouldn’t have been tolerated in season 1 and that is so sad that she was allowed to behave the way she did.
I used to love this show and watched it with my mom when I lived at home during university. We must've not gotten very far though, because I didn't realize that Jack died 😅
💯💯💯!! Your commentary on the show itself, and also Lucas (TL since day one). I’ve been heartbroken for months over season 10😭 If you watched it, are you considering doing an updated version?
Also, your high criticism and high affection for the show itself is so real. I know exactly how you feel😅
Definitely Nathan! When they brought in Lucas, they made him shady and showed him hiding something but never explained it. That never left me.
It’s interesting though because he was hiding something that turned out to be protecting his friend. If you really look at Lucas’s true character he’s really a straight up good guy. The show just had to make him look shady at the get go to make it more interesting I think. But notice when he’s dealing with Henry how angry he gets to be involved in Henry’s shady business practices (the episode when Lucas finds out that Henry undercut other businesses to get ahead). I think that says much about his character.
Did you catch that Florence talked about her daughter's name being Deborah? There is a Deborah in the camping episode in season 4 that I believe reoccurs in The Greatest Christmas Blessing. I think that she is the one that makes a big deal about Bill's figgy pudding.
I have never watched this, but you are so talented and modest. All your videos are so great. You seem to be really nice, kind, intelligent, and you are so pretty. Sometimes people have great channels but if they have pretentious or condescending personalities I never subscribe . You seem like someone who would always be super sweet on trips to cool places and nice to talk to! And you know so much! I’d been looking for a channel like yours. Keep being yourself. You shine bright and are like a breath of fresh air because you are yourself, nothing seems fake.
I'm OK with Elizabeth choosing Lucas. I'm team Nathan; however, I would like to see Nathan with Fiona.
Yes yes yes! I completely agree with you!! Lucas had my heart from the beginning. Such unconditional love and support.
Love your videos!! ❤️
Woohoo team Lucas and team Henry + Abigail! 💕
Yay for a fellow team Lucas! And Henry and Abigail!
So happy that Elizabeth chose Lucas.
Definitely, team Henry and Abigail.
Lucas 100%!
I have never watched this show because I find Halmark movies, etc. A little too predictable and sentimental.
However, this video was sooooo entertaining to watch!
And thank you for calling out 'Christian ' shows that don't actually reference the Bible. I feel like all the pop 'inspirational' psychology is an attempt to appeal to viewers who are not Christian. Which is fine I suppose, but feels fake. I want to say, "Be something! Let your Christian characters be Christian and your non Christian characters be non Christian. They can still get along and work together."
Anyway, great video!👍
Aw, thank you so much! And yes, I wish they would let their Christians be Christian too!
Yes hallmark is way too predictable but the writing for these last 2 seasons broke that mold for me.
Definitely Lucas and Elizabeth!!!!!!
So disagree on the love triangle. Bad idea. Maybe a brief one season. Carried in far too long. Worse yet they divided the fan base. Made them pick "teams."
The division of the fan base is super sad! But I think that is more of the fans deciding to be divided. I know as a Lucas supporter, I planned to keep watching and loving the show even if she chose Nathan (which I actually expected her to do). So Nathan fans now threatening to stop watching because it didn’t go their way are deciding to let it divide them. Which I think is sad they’re making that choice. But I don’t think it’s the shows fault. But that’s just my opinion.
Picking teams is fun as long as we don’t take ourselves too seriously. But I must admit. I would have been sorely disappointed had Nathan won.
I had a different perspective on the length of the triangle. I feel like it really got people vested in the shows.
@@captainjaneway80 For all of the viewers that got their wish for Elizabeth to pick a gambler saloon owner , they should be elated because the writers and the producers made it to be that way ! To fill a void left by two giant characters , Jack passing and Abigail leaving town , they had to do something to keep the interest of the show favorable to the viewers and to keep the ratings from falling ! The team Gambler fans got caught up in a harlequin style romance novel approach rather than the concept that made WCTH such a wonderful.show ! They created a character that the promos depicted as having a mysterious past and quickly they have him become a love interest of Elizabeth ! They had the viewers anticipating a continue story of a Mountie and her but they purposely did not have Nathan to have any romantic opportunities to show her how much he cared for her ! Then To deliberately make a false scenario where it appeared that she had resorted back towards Nathan , they come up with an excuse that was so outlandish and this is why the many fans disagreed with their writing a gambler to win her heart ! Who creates a " one sided " triangle where only one man gets 100% of quality time , that makes no sense ! Then for all of the Team Gambler fans that only seed that he did this for her , he was patient , he thought of her more than himself , well duh ! It was written to be that way , but had they kept to the theme of Miss O's books , there would not have been a gambler saloon owner winning her heart ! They totally disappointed many long time loyal fans with taking as they said " the riskier of choices " ! To say so many unkind things towards the disgruntled fans is not warranted and the only reason they are doing so ugly , is the guy they wanted won ! To risk losing a great portion of fans just to create something to fill a missing void , yes that risk might come back to haunt them ! No show will survive with that many fans stop watching ! No true fans want that to happen but it comes along with taking risks ! Do the Team Nathan fans agree with the finale , absolutely not , but it's their show and they can do whatever they choose to do , regardless of how the fans like it or not ! This was such a wonderful show but not anymore , in many people's opinion !
Did you know that Logan Williams played Miles Montgomery died of accidental drug overdose.
Some of the kids on the past When Calls the Heart is filming different TV show series or movies projects.
Team Lucas
I just want to know when we’ll get season two of When Hope Calls
I am so happy Elizabeth picked Lucas. I see enough of the actor who plays Nathan on Heartland and I find him unbearable on that show also.
TEAM LUCAS ALL THE WAY!!!!♥️♥️♥️♥️
Team Lucas to the very end.
Your comments are so 'spot on'!
Aw, thank you!
Nathan.
Lol you are making my Saturday morning! My favorite Hallmark quote, 'Go boldly in the direction of your dreams! Live the life you imagine.' It's from a Hallmark movie but I'm expecting Elizabeth to use it in WCTH. 😀
Lukas, the businessman makes sense for the times. He is a money maker and able to provide. It didn't hurt that he is tall, handsome and mysterious!!!
😂 I’m glad you enjoyed it! 😃 And yes, he’s very good looking. 😂 Though, I’m not sure how I feel about this beard business. 😂
@@EllieDashwood I hate the beard this season! He was so much hotter in season 6 and 7 with the scruff. I think they were trying to make him look older so she doesnt look older than him.
I have never seen this show although I've heard of it but I really love your dress! You look great in it! Your Mom has a future as a showrunner!
Aw, thank you so much! 😃😃😃 And my mom is so excited the show went her way 😂
10:36 my reaction do the costumes...I think they got the inspiration for the costumes off pinterest...
Literally 05:38 how is that not a romcom from 2008
Nathan!!
Sorry, but Team Jack all the way! LOL!
Lucas for sure!!
Nathan!! was so upset she chose Lukas. He is not a family man!
Totally agree!
So he hasnt got a niece or a kid. But he appreciate family just like he apprecites his family and feeling of it. He will become a family man over time. Jeez Lee hasnt got a kid, but shall i say he isnt a family or Jesse or Bill.
I've never even heard of this show and now I have to binge watch it. I'm all involved now, lolol
I was team Nathan all the way. I was so disappointed in the writing. I will continue to watch though.
I actually prefer Nathan.
Would love to see a new episode from you on When calls the heart on all the updates since this video maybe when season 11 when is over!
Loved your review and your thoughts- Have you ever watched Signed Sealed Delivered on Hallmark channels- would love to hear your opinion of those movies?
I always thought Nathan was immature in the way he responded when things didn't go his way. Lucas is very mature & patient & loving. I think they will be great together ❤
Examples, please
Thanks for the laughs girl! So true about all of what you said!!
Yay! I’m glad you enjoyed it! 😂
The optics didn't match the outcome. There was so much chemistry and history between Nathan and Elizabeth and I did not feel it was all about the Mountie factor. Lucas did do a better job of courting her. He was.more physically available but I felt Nathan was more emotionally honest and available. This choice made me care less about Elizabeth's character. I like Lucas but this decision made me very sad for Nathan and Allie.
Lucas
The Fiona & Mike thing was odd. She was cool, confident, beautiful, & he was not at all compatible with her.
Faith & Carson had been such a good match, but then Faith suddenly became very unlikeable & confusing.
Here in Brazil I didn't have the opportunity to see the season 8
Oh no! I hope it comes out there soon!
I am Team Nathan and disappointed with how season 8 ended.
I agree with you on Lucas. I also realize that Elizabeth and Lucas has more in common in regards to their family fortunes. They're more equals in that regard...js
I am disappointed that Elizabeth chose Lucas knowing that he was s very sdcc shady character who did not become any better
There was intrigue attached to his activities. You could not trust him. It was fumb to choose him
Nathan has been noble and decent.
It certainly appeared that way at first! But then there was the episode where it came out that the only reason Lucas appeared shady was because he was in hiding because he did the brave and noble thing of helping a widow being taken advantage of by criminals and now the criminals were after him for helping her.
@@EllieDashwood Yep this exactly. I feel like some ppl have either ignored that, it was dealth with in the same season. We found out Lucas is a good man overall.