He was a competent coach but he was extremely conservative. John Wooden SHOULD have been the coach of that team ...a and Bill Walton should have been the Center.
To accommodate American Television, it was played at 11:30 P.M., Munich Time which was basically 2:30 in the Afternoon here in Los Angeles, or very much Lunch Time(12:30) in Hawaii.
Controversial would mean that a debate could go either way whether or not the USA had won the game, and both sides could be right or both sides could be wrong. This was not controversial, this was flat out cheating. First of all, when the Russians called a timeout that they didn't have, by rules that should have been a technical foul, and the USA should have been awarded the ball at that point. The game was OVER right there. But even after that when they put three seconds on the clock again, USA stopped them yet again and the game should have definitely been over for a second time. But again they were cheated and the Russians were given yet a third chance due to the clock not being reset. But by basketball rules, regardless of where the clock is at, once the referee hands the player the ball, it is officially back in play... The USA were flat out cheated, and there's nothing controversial about that... It was factual with no room for debate.
@@ericmathis3746 That's why the main refree Renato Righetto refused fo sing the game protocol. I think the controversy is not only because of breaking the rules but also becasue of all that politics around it.
@@ericmathis3746 you could call for timeout because it was not a technical foul, if it was, all of them would stay back. I think you Americans should confess that you lost that game, the fouls that you did, they were lamentable! The game was fair and square
@@jaliljalilov3876 No, the rules forbade a timeout when the Soviets requested it. None was ever granted. The stoppage with one second remaining was due to assistant coach Sergei Bashkin leaving the bench to accost the scorer's table. That IS a technical foul, and Renato Rhigetto (the referee) would have been fully within his rights to assess one. *"Under FIBA rules, the Americans won."* -Hans Tenschert, official scorekeeper, 1972 Olympic basketball final
@@roberteugene7295 the think is that the general secretary of FIBA himself told that soviets should have the 3 seconds. Moreover, if you think that the game was rigged then how did Americans play rugby against soviets? That was literally rugby, the players were bleeding, they were being knocked out, while the referees ignored it all
@@Jcon4002 Yes Walton was that good If Walton played in 1972 though he might have gotten hurt walking to the airport and may have never played in the NBA
If the clock was not properly set, then how did the final buzzer go off? It was probably set at 53 seconds, and three seconds ticked down and the timekeeper pressed the buzzer to reflect the 3 seconds.... Only the timekeeper could admit this, but he said nothing because of embarrassment And the British FIBA president is telling the referee and timekeeper what to do when he has NO authority to affect a call or ruling during an Olympic game or activity ! Would the FIFA president, in those days, rush onto a soccer pitch to tell a referee to change a call for a penalty shot in the finals of the World Cup - I don’t think so - the Russian team should never have been given 3 more seconds in the 1st place - their team member rushed to throw the ball into play after the US free throws instead of paying attention to their coach hollering for a timeout Besides the coach running onto the court to wave at the referee, which was not allowed and should’ve been a tech foul, the clock had run down to 1 second and should’ve stayed at 1 second - that was his players fault for not paying attention to his bench - that’s part of the stress of a timed sport - the FIBA president had no right to rush onto court to insist that they be given the full 3 seconds again - he unilaterally controlled the referees to make them look like jerks - and erased the Russian’s players’s mistake on inbounding the ball in a hurry to cause the loss of those 2 seconds of the 3 - the fool took over judging the game while the game was still on! The game would’ve played out after their time out from 1 second left on the clock, and if the Russians didn’t like it, they could’ve launched a protest to see how it feels to be judged for their errors - no one would cry foul, but it’s ok to give them extra chances to make them win a prize that they seemed to be in control of for 90% of the game - these people have never won a game that they were so bitterly losing, and couldn’t allow the miracle of a come back by their opponent, especially from a USA team that has never lost a game in the Olympics - that’s why the FIBA president rushed in - too much fear and no sportsmanship
Because it wasn't the final buzzer; it was probably the clock operator hitting the horn telling the referees to stop the game. Granted--I'm critiquing this in a digital world when the clock was at best running on analog. But if I were the referee in an Olympic Gold Medal game, I would not have handed the ball off to the player before the clock was ready to go.
It wasn't the referee who added the 3 seconds. William Jones, who was the head of FIBA and who felt that the American's dominance of the game in the Olympics wasn't a good thing, came out of the stands to order the time put back on the clock. The problem was the refs and the timekeeper didn't have the cajones to tell their boss he couldn't do what he wanted to do.
@@tonyg3630 no it’s not because somebody thought ussa dominance in basketball isn’t a good thing, it’s because the Russians wanted a timeout right away before throwing the ball at 0:03 but because of a mistake from the judges and not from the russians. It’s not their fault so they gave them the timeout at 0:01 which is also wrong. They replayed with the timer at 0:01 first time but it had to be at 0:03 and the bell rang right away and that’s 100% unfair that’s why they brought them back the 0:03 and gave them another attempt. Doing otherwise was surely unfair because 3 seconds are 3 seconds and they should play according to fair rules and not have a disadvantage because of a mistake from the judges
in nba refs often give more seconds when its end of game and for example shotclock didnt stop at time of whistle, this hapened here too, first stoppage was fail to call for timeout, so they restartet but 2 second went during this chaos and they added those lost 2 second to restart properly
in defense of the BS... The 2nd ending was BS, there was .50 on the clock haha. Also, even the very last ending.... Defense should have stopped that play! it was crazy they made that play.
McMillan of the US had the right to stand right up to the out of bounds line, but was told to back up. He did because he was afraid to get a technical foul. I just spoke with a member of the 1971 Canadian Pan American team, John Olson, who said that he had heard that the referee from Brasil was crooked.
@@garymols9565 Considering the fact that he supported the American appeal, including saying that "the end of that game and the appeal committee is completely outside the rules of the game of basketball." He (his name's Renato Rhigetto) was overruled by R. William Jones. Your relative (Herb Mols) understood that, I thought.
It wasn't a mistake that he did not guard the inbound pass when he did guard the first two times and it was allowed. The official pointed to the line and waved him back and told him not to guard the third inbound pass. That can be seen clearly. if he was allowed to do as he did the first two times, it would not have been an accurate pass and the time would have run out. If he had have gotten closer to guard the pass, there is no doubt in my mind he would have been hit with a technical. So much for fair play by the Communists. They did right by not attending the awards ceremony. They know they won the gold and to admit they didn't want to be humiliated with the silver. They did right.
The USA should have been scratched from the competition _immediately_ when not attending the awards. The official reminded the US player not to pass over the line. He cannot tell him to keep away. The Soviets did nothing wrong, neither did the official.
@@johnburns4017 The official clearly waved him back making it easier to throw the ball in. He didn't need to be shown not to be "pass over the line" that is common knowledge. The official made up a new rule. I don't give a damn about the silver no matter what they do. You are just as big a cheat as they are. Showing up for the silver would be an admission of defeat and we oh so clearly won that gold medal. All of the medals are so badly tainted with commie crap that they can shove them up their asses.
@@johnburns4017 We've been over this ground before, and you have no facts to support your conclusions. Had it not been for the *ILLEGAL* interference of Renato William Jones, there would have been no reset of the clock, and no third inbound attempt. There would have been a second inbound attempt in front of the scorer's table near midcourt, with one second remaining, per the ruling of the referee, Renato Rhigetto.
Could someone explain why the 3 seconds was replayed 3 times? First time was odd enough then the second was just crazily ridiculous! Almost as if it was going to happen again and again until they did score!?
So, if the clock was not properly set on the first inbounds try, how did the Americans know the game was over? Were they just assuming three seconds had run off? Also, on that first inbound try, it looks like that little Soviet guard almost canned his full court attempt. Maybe it was an optical illusion, but I thought it hit the rim. What a finish that would have been!
Because of the fact that it takes more than 3 seconds to run that play. Once Sergei Belov touched the ball, the clock starts. Throwing the ball the length of the floor requires more time than that.
listen to the announcer of american himself ... coulin about to take the free throws... and the announcer acknowledge "3 secs left",, first inbount is 3 secs ,, unfortunately the issue is on the scorest table, they didnt bzz the buzzer,, even tho the russian coach called for it... its not running time so team opposite had the luxury to call a time out .. thats y the play goin ang clock as well too.., on the second inbound they forgot to reset the clock back to 3 secs.... that the reason why they had to stop and tried again... William Jones didnt dictaqte that ,, it was on the clock at the play before hand... clearly it was a mistake ,, from the commitee's table,, that y they do the right thing to inbound in proper time ... 3 secs... unfortunately to US that claims there was a foul which is not happened.... clearly US team refused to accept defeat....,,,,,,,,, it was the right to do...... hate that isiah thomas ,, done that as well back in 91 playoffs
@@roberteugene7295 I just realized something if that particular play took Longer than 3 seconds to play then shouldn't the 3rd imbound play have Ended right when Alexander Belov caught the ball? Basically ending the Game with the ball in his hands?
And premature celebrations. All the people running into the court gave the Soviet coach a chance to make a play. They would not have been able to make that 3 second play otherwise.
I agree. As much as I wouldn't like the idea of them beating the Americans on the court, they did everything the right way. They tried to call a timeout, which wasn't granted and they protested. Somehow, that got them a chance and then the second chaotic thing happens because of technical issues. Plus, the Americans didn't set themselves up. Say what you will about the game. There would've been controversy either way. At the end of the day though, despite whatever feelings that were there, the Soviets didn't try to screw things up intentionally. There was just so much chaos that unfortunately hasn't been resolved, but they did the right way.
@KWCline91 Add one thing that everything rests on. The wilful interference of one Renato William Jones, secretary general of FIBA. Under rules he authored and swore to uphold, he violated both the letter and spirit of those rules, which gave on-court officials absolute authority over a game in progress. He then sought to protect the result of his malfeasance by violating more rules in appointing his friend, Ferenc Hepp, to the review committee (FIBA rules state that only FIBA members representing a country with a team in the tournament may sit on a review committee, and Hepp represented Hungary, who had no team in the 1972 Olympic basketball tournament). Hepp repeatedly showed his bias, and the on-court officials agree, under FIBA rules, the US won.
Actually the refs were not incompetent. They did everything they could to insure that the Soviets would win. They did a great job. Where is the controversy? It's obvious the game was fixed.
@@roberteugene7295 How did Jones get his friend Ferenec Hepp on the committee in the 1st place cause I feel that both the Olympic Committee & FIBA Committee/ Olympic Basketball Committee would put a STOP to that wouldn't they?
I just don't understand.... They inbound and call a timeout they don't have ? So they give the ball back and dude bricks a 75% court bomb, people storm the court and then they give the ball BACK to the Russians is that what I'm seeing ? Or am I missing something. Even if he had the timeout after that shoot and the american grabbed the rebound shouldn't it have been a change or possession? Or did they just re do the same 3 seconds 3 times
The ruling was that the second play never actually happened . The scoreboard clock was still being would down to 3 seconds and therefore the play was nullified . That was ordered by the British FIBA guy, Jones
Despite the goofy ending, and the arguable screw job, that pass the Soviet inbounder threw has to be one of the greatest passes in basketball history. I had to watch it 3 times to appreciate it. He put it right on the money from 90 feet away and with a lot of pepper on it too. Incredible
His name's Ivan Edeschko. He and Alexander Belov played for the same club team and had made a similar play in Soviet league games before. The actual problem is that Edeschko never checked in at this point (he would have been rejected by the officials had he done so), and his participation in the play was an egregious rule violation.
Indeed great pass. The question is that the 6'11" Tom McMillen was put on the court to guard the inbound pass, and then he backs AWAY from the passer when the ref hands the guy the ball. Now he has no obstruction to making a full court pass. If you are not going to put the 6'11" guy right on the passer, then he should have been under the Russian hoop to deflect any such pass before Belov got it. Horrible coaching, and great play by the Soviets. McMillen ended up in a place were he was essentially useless.
Why is everybody in the comments giving credibility to this game by making this and that argument as to why the USA team lost? Isn't it clear? The refs were going to give the Soviets the ball until they won - Three shots at it? Don't you see, the game was fixed. Period.
If you had read anything about this game, you would have known that the Soviet Union was almost robbed twice. In the first case, the referees "erroneously" did not notice the request for a time-out. The second time they gave the Soviets one second, instead of three. Yes, they were not going to change the decision if some influential man in this field (I honestly don’t remember his name) confirmed that there was one second on the scoreboard. What the hell is a bribery match? Russia and the USSR have always been condemned everywhere, before and after. The judges were not Russian or Soviet people, but foreigners (possibly Americans) I laugh at the Americans who think this match was bought.
That American team was even worse than the one from 1988. Only Collins was good, the rest were mediocre. And if we add to that that the Soviet team was the best up to that moment...
8:17 grab a stop watch and start it as soon as the ref hands the ball over, then hit stop when you hear the siren, its 3 seconds!! No wonder USA felt ripped off they were a victim of multiple circumstances. If the coach didn't call timeout they might have won anyway lol we will never know. People panic under stress, well most do, others thrive like MJ.
The Soviet coach called Timeout as Collins was on the ground before he took the two throws. Play should have been taken back to that point. It was not.
@@johnburns4017 1) No, they didn't call timeout within the rules. 2) FIBA rules in 1972 forbade "replaying" time. Once the time was off the clock, it was gone. 3) FIBA rules forbade taking down a score once officially recorded. Either the referee called it good or immediately waved it off, once called good, it couldn't be removed after the fact.
It always works that way when you are dealing with Communists. They wouldn't let the USA players guard the inbound pass like we did originally. The official kept waving him back on the second try. Scared of a technical foul the didn't try on the third try. Down at the other end they had to keep a certain distance with the player at the other end. This is vintage Communism.
@@GGE47 As always bringing politics into sports lol Also, funny how when it comes to sports in the 20th century North Americans (Canadians in hockey and Americans in everything else) have been by far the biggest cheaters from refereeing to doping. Apparently for Americans it's hard to accept that the USSR (and Germany at times) had better results at the Olympics. Anyway doesn't take more embarassing than the US losing in basketball, their own sport, to the Soviets to whom basketball wasn't even a top 3 most played/popular sport.
My father, the late Herbert Mols from Buffalo, NY, was not only a member of the US Olympic basketball committee but was also the US team manager along with MK Summers. Mr. Mols is seen in this NBC report having a very heated exchange of words with the Ad Hoc Chairman of the Munich Olympic Basketball Appeals Committee, J. Hepp of Hungary. First of all, Mr. Hepp's country, Hungary, did not have a team entered in the Olympic tournament. The rule book states the Appeals Committee may only be populated by members of countries that were competing in the Olympic tournament.. Hungary was not competing in basketball and therefore Hepp should not have been seated at the Appeals table. .His presence TILTED the final call in favor of the EASTERN BLOC countries. Also the rules state that only the scorekeepers and referees control the clock AND NOT the Chairman of the International Basketball Committee, William Jones of the UK who came out of the stands to tell the officials at the scoring table that they needed to put 3 seconds back on the clock... not once, but thrice. It would be like the Commissioner of the NHL coming down to the ice and overturning a goal or penalty called by the OFFICIALS. Here is the posted video: ruclips.net/video/MdqmVUkg8tw/видео.html
its not the issue .. get back on the tape again .. analyze the situation why they had to make 3 tries becoz it wasnt properly coordinated on table commiteee .. coash of russia called the time even before coullins shoot the first one ... the situation getting heated when people not understand ing issuue ... there should be a time call after collin made the two baskets freetrow.... but it didnt came.. and there was still 3 secs... while even before coling make the free trow...so thays y... its clearly US didnt accept the defeat ,, and claiming it was robbed.... shame..................................................................................................... 1st inbound no timeout.........clocks runs and dont reset at 3 sec... 2nd inboung time called but wrong time in the clock, so Jones correct the 3 secs and the final inbound which is the right thing to do... Russia Wins....... thats how it the anotomy of that controversial game... claiming it was robbed even it not................SHAME i wasnt born that yet .. only to watch that game ..... oh goshhhhhhhhhh
It wasn’t cheating, it was just incompetence. The officials were so desperate to avoid any complaints, they inadvertently caused one of the biggest controversies in Olympic history. I personally think the US team should’ve taken their silver medals.
That's what I said. At worst it was William Jones putting his thumb on the scale. But without evidence the Russians had any hand in that, I wouldn't call it cheating.
@@squigglyline2813 William Jones admitted years after, that he wanted to avoid any Russian protests, so agreed to the three seconds as he didn’t think the Russians had a prayer of scoring.
@@sarahjackson1860 And, under rules he instituted and swore to uphold, he shouldn't have interfered at all. In either the game nor the appointment of subs for the appeal committee (one, his friend Farenc Hepp, was ineligible under FIBA rules).
@@squigglyline2813 Evidence exists. No timeout was granted through all this chaos, yet the Soviets inserted a key player, Ivan Edeschko, the man who made the pass to Alexandr Belov for the controversial basket. He didn't even report in at the scorer's table, and his participation was entirely in violation of the rules. And Jones didn't just put his thumb on the scale, he put both hands on them.
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Kinda similar to Roy Jones Jr. in the 1988 Seoul, South Korea Olympics. The judges intentionally gave Park Si-Hun the better score card when Roy actually scored higher than Park.
@Ryan Nigro, given the circumstances of how it all played out, I also always thought Coach Iba should've pulled the US team off the floor and refused to replay those final 3 seconds again for a second time and forced the Olympic committee to make some sort of ruling on the situation first.
Absolutely. By going on the court, they acknowledged what was going on. The US was ripped off by the refs. Nevertheless, it was poor sportsmanship not to take the silver.
I just realized something amazing to me. I was 14 at the time when I watched this game on TV. I remember being as pissed off as I have ever been. I was young and had nothing riding on this except 2 things. Country pride which I didn't even know I had. And hatred toward Russia which I was taught and agreed with at the time, which as it turns out, was well placed. I am now 66 years old and for the first time in my life I can look back and recognize that that moment was a life altering moment that formed an opinion that is a major cornerstone in my everyday thought process. If a cheating country can cheat on the biggest stage in the world with the entire world's population watching and get away with it. Then nothing will ever deserve my undying respect or admiration again. From that day forward, I had no respect for the Olympics or their committees. I never got invested in the games in general and over the next 52 years it only got worse. They never did one single thing to redeem themselves. And this year, over all others, I lost 110% respect for the USA Olympic Committee when they by-passed Caitlin Clark for the womans basketball team. The team has 12 players and according to this committee of knowledgeable experienced people, the record setting rookie sensation and probably the most popular player in WNBA history is only the thirteenth best player in the league. A committee cannot be that brain dead and expect people to ever endorse them again. After the opening ceremony nonsense, the final nail in the coffin, I did not watch a single event and I not only feel as though I missed NOTHING, I feel as if I am a better person for it. When you look at the NFL cheating, the NBA cheating, the MLB cheating, and the boxing fixed fights, there is not a sport or government on the planet I have any respect for. The cost of eating out is so out of control I had to learn how to cook. Disney parks are so expensive I need a second full time job to afford to go. Who can find the time to go to a theme park when you have two full time jobs? And if you could go you would just be disappointed at all the things you can't do. All the rides that don't work. Snow White is a Mexican. Cinderella is a lesbian. Peter Pan is gay, and Cruella De Vil is a transexual. I don't really all that race-gender bullshit, but I don't really want it taught to children at this time. Anyway, that's all I've got for today. Go away now.
Looks like a disorganized system to me. Nothing wrong by the teams just bad operations by ppl who are supposed to run the game. Losing is good sometimes tho, it helps you learn and grow. I wish they did take their medals because a silver medal is also worth bragging about.
@@DanielSong39 Except for the fact that one man caused them to fall short by one point. That was Renato William Jones, who, under FIBA rules he swore to uphold, should not have interfered. His interference is the lone cause of the result.
@DanielSong39 Incorrect. Had Jones abided by FIBA rules that he swore to uphold, Belov would not have had the opportunity to score that basket, which should have been disallowed on several violations.
My only question is. While the clock is running, since when did the score keeper's allowed to dictate timeouts being called? If the refs didn't hear the time out it should be played as that. They miss calls, make bad calls and we don't get to redo all those. Regardless of the 3 seconds not being g put on the board correctly. They still got their chance to score and they failed. The whistle is the official call. They count the backcourt with their hands and 3 in the key. I'm sure they they could of handled saying. " was 3 seconds" america wins
What's the issue? Watch the replay. The ball was inbounded with :03 on the clock. They inbounded and dribbled to half court before the timeout was called with :01 second on the clock. Where'd the :03 seconds that were put back on the clock come from in the first place, and not once, but twice? If the correct :01 had been put back on the clock, even giving them two chances to score, the clock would have expired by the time he got the shot off.
The issue seemed to be that the Soviets couldn't get a timeout in before Doug Collins 2nd free throw and interrupted play on the ensuing inbounds play. Rather than be assessed a technical foul, or pick up play from when the clock was stopped at one second, someone who was not on the floor for the game (the FIBA president) said give them 3 seconds.
Here was a quote from R. William Jones (head of international basketball) after the game "The Americans always win but they must also learn how to lose!!" and he was the one who came down from the stands and ordered the game clock reset at three seconds but he really had no actual authority to do so.
You can rationalize it any way you want but the players didn't decide this game.. This was a comedy of errors by people not playing or coaching deciding who wins. World politics needs to be left out of sporting events because this is the result; a farce of epic proportions.
I saw this as a kid and was delighted to see Russia win. Theyd been ahead for all the game and when Collins took the foul it looked staged. That last second score by Russia was amazing.
looking back with hindsight and age, I think the best way the US team could of handled it would of been to go to the medal ceremony with the IOC knowing they wouldnt accept the silver medals, but still be there for respect of the team that played them to the very end. Those players were just as innocent as the americans imo and it would of given us american's a better look when it came to sportsmanship.
Yes , initially, was going to be forfeited. but then with the protest evidence presented of the game administration anomalies , USA would have a very heavy case against them.
There were some officials on the court and in the stands who really wants the US to lose that game. They make mistakes multiple times and the US had to pay for it every time.
Shame be upon Tom McMillen for backing away and permitting the Soviet player to throw the ball uncontested. There could and should have been a different outcome.
Yes I don't know what he was thinking there. I know the ref made that motion with his hand but in no way in any scenario in basketball are you not allowed to guard the passer.
That was an intentional very dangerous defensive hard foul from below with the offensive player in the air on way to the basket. Therefore, it should have been after the free throws, USA keeps the ball. That was the first cheat. The illegal time out, second cheat. The first additional 3 seconds, the third cheat. The second additional 3 seconds, the fourth cheat.
Well if they had selected the true dream team of 1972 including Kareem Abdul Jabbar, wilt chamberlain, Dr. J and bill walton, they would have won every game by 150 points. But it's not USSR's fault if USA decides to send its 9th string
Heck, the NBA could have sent the Portland Trailblazers (18-64 the previous season) to the Olympics to represent team USA, and they'd have run roughshod over the Soviets (and everyone else).
Randy Harvey of the LA Times, *_"The Americans thought at every turn they had been cheated. They probably hadn't been but they still haven't acknowledged that."_* *1.* The Soviet's bench called a timeout when Collins was on the court's floor running into the scaffolding, after being fouled. 3 seconds remain. *2.* The Soviet bench *did not* call timeout between Collins' two foul shots, or after when the Soviets went up the court. It was *before* these two events. *3.* Collins puts the USA ahead with his two baskets. *4.* The horn sounds before Collins pops the second - an odd time for the horn to sound. The horn sounded as the ball had left Collins' hands. *5.* The sounding horn was an acknowledgement that a Soviet timeout should have been awarded earlier. The Soviets did not call timeout illegally between Collins' two shots. Soviet coaches were on the line indicating they want a timeout. *6.* Play _quickly_ resumed after Collins scores, with 3 seconds remaining, with a Soviet inbound *_(1st)._* The Soviet bench were still on the line rightly protesting that they wanted a timeout (called before Collins' baskets & acknowledged by the horn) and that was being ignored. *7.* There was 1 second left. The ref stops play at 1 second left seeing the Soviet bench pointing to him making "T" signs with their hands. *8.* The ref saw this error then compensated slightly setting the clock back to 3 secs taking the ball back to the line for another Soviet inbound, *_(2nd),_* resetting play. Three seconds now remain. The ref could have started the game at one second remaining, however taking the ball back to the line means resetting the time back to 3 seconds. Now back to the state of play and time after Collins scored. *9.* The ref never gave the Soviet timeout, which he should have done. At this point the Soviets are being cheated. *10.* The Bulgarian umpire, not the Brazilian ref, resumed play before the clock was reset to 3 secs, allowing play to resume at 1 sec on the unset clock with the *_(2nd)_* Soviet inbound. *11.* The US thought the game was over with them winning as the horn was sounded after 1 second. *12.* The Ref saw the errors of: a) not resetting the clock b) resuming play without his authority. He is in charge not the umpire. *13.* The ref puts matters right, resetting the clock to 3 secs taking the ball back to the line for another Soviet inbound, the *_(3rd)._* *There is nothing wrong with that decision.* *14.* The US players fully understood that the clock had not been reset and why play was being resumed. *15.* The Soviets threw the ball up the court from their *_(3rd)_* inbound popping the winning basket within 3 secs. *Winners !!* *The ref did most right - he saw two errors and put matters right.* He should have done more, annulled Collins scores and taken play back to the point that Collins was on the floor when the Soviets called timeout, giving the Soviets the timeout they called for. After the Soviet timeout Collins could take his two free throws again. Or the Soviets could have the timeout between Collins' two throws. The ref was unaware that the Soviets called timeout when Collins was on the floor, the scorer on the desk never informed him. The USA team were beaten fairly. *The USA gripe -* was that Jones the FIBA head, went down to the scorers table and suggested that the clock be reset to 3 secs from 1 sec, as it should have been. The ref was doing this anyhow. He could have suggested taking the play back to the Soviet timeout call, which would have been the fair and right thing to do. He never. The ref had no need to take any notice of anyone, he was 100% in command. The Soviet timeout was called when Collins was on the floor. *The Soviet gripe -* was that their timeout call, when Collins was on the floor, was ignored. They only got 2 seconds more in compensation - that was it - well it was just taking play and time back to the point Collins scored. They never got the timeout they called for with even a horn sounding for it. They got nothing. They made full use of the 3 seconds by putting play back to position after Collins' scored, so were satisfied.
The replay shows an official handing the ball to Collins just before time out buzzer goes off - by the rules, the ball is in play in the opponents hands and time out cannot be called with ball in play in possession of the opponent The Russian player who inbounded the ball after the free throws wasn’t paying attention to his bench and rushed the play to put his team under heat, and the FIBA president rushing onto the court just fuels more the controversy of a high profile figure, who I’m sure the referee recognized Why should they be rewarded the 2 extra seconds on the 1 second left if the time out was recognized after the players wasted 2 seconds not paying attention to their bench - the time out that the Russians were hollering for during the three throws should’ve been awarded after free throws were done with ball in Russians hands - Russian players, Russian coach, time keeper, referee and FIBA president vs USA team - that difference caused the tilt to give 3 chances to win
@@victorfiorillo6569 The FIBA president *never* went onto the court. The ref is in charge, no one else, irrespective who is attempting to influence him. The whole crowd was screaming to influence the ref in some way or other. The ref could have suggested taking the play back to the Soviet timeout call, which would have been the fair and right thing to do. He never. The injustices of officiating decisions was more towards the Soviets. Despite that, they still won.
What a crock of shit. I suggest you familiarize yourself with how competition works. Not just basketball, but all sports. In every single one, there are doctrines that govern competition. For example, the player/team on the side of error may not benefit from the error, and the player/team in the right cannot be penalized. There's also a doctrine that once you've accepted the result, you cannot and played on, you cannot retroactively go back and protest. The Russians weren't granted a time out, so what? They chose to inbound the ball and play on. So after their inbound was unsuccessful , they get to protest and redo? Show me one rule book in any sport that you're allowed to redo events until you achieve the results you want. Good luck finding one.
@@johnburns4017 Maybe I didn't make myself clear. Look at your own timeline. The SOVIETS inbounded the ball. Play had resume. Want to reread the doctrine of once you resume play, you have accepted the result? This is not a quantum state where you can argue the coaches were protesting while the players try to score. Play had resume and there should be one second left on the clock. That was the basis of the US protest and they were absolutely correct.
lol wtf, no timeouts and you stop the clock for the Soviets? Twice? Why do I think if they didn’t score the third time. They would have been given a 4th try…then a 5th try…then a 6th try until the ending was right.
There was a series of officiating mistakes, and the FIBA director came out of the stands to direct the ending. All a coincidence? Not a planned result? ok. Just incompetence, over and over and over? suuuuuure. They hate us.
Oh come on, if the situation were in reverse, the Americans would say absolutely the same things "We just used all chances we were given... they have to accept things as they are...", etc. People always have bias and don't even notice it. That's why there are judges, and every participant agrees to trust their decision, unless found some paid arrangements or similar things. Nothing of the kind was found here, so the decision of the judges has to be accepted by both parties, no matter who believes what. And btw, the USA could ensure the victory by playing a level better than the USSR, and they didn't. They weren't stronger in this particular game.
That's where your wrong. You said if it was reversed, but it never will be reversed because that's the Russians past, not the USA. We weren't the ones who were sore losers and cheated to win. But Russia have to cheat to win. Also you can't say "if" the roles were switched because we didn't cheat and wouldn't have cheated. Face it Russia can think they won but at the end of the day the victory was ours
@@simply.avery0754 at the end of the day USSR took the gold, USA lost. You can call it cheating but basically you cannot accept the loss it’s that simple. There’s plenty of proof they’ve called tome out before 5he throws, not between them. If the American clock worked properly there would have been a different result, but as you said no “if”
@@leracaptures6992 Incorrect. There's zero evidence that the Soviets called timeout in the allotted time. All actual evidence demonstrates that the Soviets failed to call timeout. By the way, the clock and the operator (Andre Chopard) were French. The fact remains that the Soviets would surely have lost without illegal interference by William Jones.
Dream Team One would have been up by at least 50 points. Michael Jordan would raced up the court at a far great speed than Doug Collins and MJ would have scored easily. Then with The Dream Team up by 52 points they would have had Ewing and David Robinson defend under their basket to prevent the "Hail Mary" pass to the Russians from ever being completed!!!! No magic three seconds would have helped Team Russia come back after being down 52 points with just three seconds to go!!!!! As Magic says "The Dream Team baby there is only one"!!!!
Absolutely! The 1992 USA Dream with a Jordan, Bird, Magic, Robinson, Stockton, Malone, Pippen, Barkley, Drexler, Mullin, Ewing would have DESTROYED this team.
🕵️ Look closely. 1. After the Russian player tackles Collins for the flagrant foul the ref goes over to that same Russian player to help him up 🤔 2. After the 1st throw in you can see that same ref wave over TWICE the Russian player like "Hurry up, hurry up" before that time out was called that they didn't even have. 🤔 CASE CLOSED. FIXED AND FAVORED.
It was the table's fault. The Soviets called for a timeout, logically, and the table wanted to give it to them but before the free throws. The Soviets said they wanted it between both free throws, which was legal at the time. When Righetto gave the ball to Collins for the second free throw, the table sounded the timeout signal, but too late. Between Righetto and the table they made the whole mess.
1-Russian American Navy vet here so 100% fair. Two things to remember and I heard the complaints about the,"Freedom hating refs," however, upon further review, the decision did not come from them. The officials sided with team USA but the decision to add extra time to the game and give the Soviet Union CCCP a do over, CAME DIRECTLY FROM FIBA. Now one can argue that FIBA officials were pro Soviet Union and anti USA but that is not the official's fault. There was so much corruption in the Olympics there are countless strories of how the Iranian wrestler or Bulgarian wrestler-weightlifter, Romanian gymnast would get screwed because they are not Russian or American, see Natalia Komenici getting robbed in the European championships to the Russian. See 1994 Jadidi vs Kurt Angle-the decision could have gone to Jadidi. So basically USA got screwed on two fronts 1- They appealed in a timely manner but the powers to be were hearing NONE OF IT. You can't fault or blame this on the Russians or the refs.
I am Canadian and I am not a communist, but let's face it. The USSR coach had asked for a timeout before the game resumed, but the referees did not see it. We can give him the benefit of the doubt because of the way he protested before the bell rang. Then, the clock was not set to 3 seconds and the bell sounded when the Soviet player threw the ball. Clearly the game had to be restarted. The best team won.
You’re right. It wasn’t cheating. It was Incompetence on behalf of the officials in their desperation to avoid any controversy. William Jones admitted he agreed to put 3 seconds back on the clock because he didn’t want any complaints and didn’t think the Russians had a prayer of scoring 😕. If i was an American player i would’ve been upset though. However, no matter how difficult, they should’ve accepted the result and received their medals. Apparently they’re still locked in a vault in Switzerland 50yrs later.
@@sarahjackson1860 On the contrary, it WAS cheating. I'll remind you, Jones was forbidden by rules he swore to uphold from interfering with a game in progress. Jones ordered a rules violation by ordering the clock reset. The Soviets then, during all the confusion, inserted (in violation of the rules) Ivan Edeschko into the game, who didn't even check in at the scorer's table. His participation was entirely illegal and should be wiped from the game, and in fact, should have been assessed a technical foul, just like assistant coach Sergei Bashkin rushing the scorer's table during play should have been. Jones's illegal interference combined with the Soviet cheating (not to mention their savagery during the game) is more than enough to overturn the result, and anyone with any sense of fair play knows it.
I remember watching this game as a kid. The refs were going to give the ball to the Russians until they scored the winning basket. The game was obviously fixed. I remember the medal ceremony. The USA team boycotted it, and the silver medal stand was empty. To this day, not one member of the USA team has accepted the silver medal.
MY HERO GEORGE ICEMAN GERVIN WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ON THAT TEAM BUT HE GOT KICKED OUT OF EASTERN MICHIGAN UNIVERSITY FOR KNOCKING OUT AN OPPOSING PLAYER TOM PICCOLO IF THE ICEMAN WAS ON THE USA SQUAD GAME OVER IN THE FIRST HALF BUT I STILL GOT TO FOLLOW ICE HIS WHOLE CAREER AND I WAS AT THE HALL OF FAME WHEN ICE WAS INDUCTED MAY 1996
"According to FIBA rules, the Americans won."-Hans Tenschert, official scorer, 1972 Olympic basketball final. Team USA was repeatedly wronged by the orders of Renato William Jones, Secretary general of FIBA. USSR was *declared* the winner by these illegal acts of Jones.
The clock was supposed to have been set to one second!!! Rule is Team Russia can't call a time out while the US is shooting free throws. The in bound should have used up one the remaining three seconds and team Russia calling for time should have used up one of the now remaining two seconds!!!! Thus team Russian should have only one second!!!! That final second would have expired with the ball traveling in the air over mid court!!!! That would have been correct.
BingCherry11 the Soviets scored in 2 seconds through the whole field...despite the americans dirty cheating and pretending to fall at the end of the game-they still managed ti score!! That is amazing, and that us pure victory..they did score in those 3 seconds!! Amazing and rightful victory!
I watched this game with my grandmother. I was 10 years old.
@10:15 lol funny how "goats" has evolved from negative connotations to greatest of all time.
HAHA i thought i was hearing things. glad to know i wasn't. that is so funny though! was surprised to see your comment, George.
@@jbug1979
Exactly. Back in my day (I'm 72), the "goat" was the guy who made a major mess-up and cost his team the game.
I just listened to it again. it sounded like he said 'it is our only chance to dot the "I". '
goats was negative?
Who's here during the 2024 Olympics in Paris?
I want tranny basketball!
The coach of USA Hank Iba was 87 years old and learned basketball in 1907
He was incompetent. Any other coach and the game would have been over.
@@whodidit99 How was Hank Iba incompetent?
@@whodidit99Educate yourself before commenting about Henry Iba please
he was a hall of fame coach. that was not his first rodeo. do some research
He was a competent coach but he was extremely conservative. John Wooden SHOULD have been the coach of that team ...a and Bill Walton should have been the Center.
To accommodate American Television, it was played at 11:30 P.M., Munich Time which was basically 2:30 in the Afternoon here in Los Angeles, or very much Lunch Time(12:30) in Hawaii.
nobody ever thinks of Hawaii timezone in sporting times lol.:??
There would be no miracle on ice without this game.
This was better.
@@jasonallen6081 yeah, the miracle on ice was better
There would be no Miracle on Ice if Bill Walton showed up.
why soviets not refuse these silver medals?
very strange 😂
for the russians it was a miracle!
I think it was the most controversial basketball game ever.
Controversial would mean that a debate could go either way whether or not the USA had won the game, and both sides could be right or both sides could be wrong. This was not controversial, this was flat out cheating. First of all, when the Russians called a timeout that they didn't have, by rules that should have been a technical foul, and the USA should have been awarded the ball at that point. The game was OVER right there. But even after that when they put three seconds on the clock again, USA stopped them yet again and the game should have definitely been over for a second time. But again they were cheated and the Russians were given yet a third chance due to the clock not being reset. But by basketball rules, regardless of where the clock is at, once the referee hands the player the ball, it is officially back in play... The USA were flat out cheated, and there's nothing controversial about that... It was factual with no room for debate.
@@ericmathis3746 That's why the main refree Renato Righetto refused fo sing the game protocol. I think the controversy is not only because of breaking the rules but also becasue of all that politics around it.
@@ericmathis3746 you could call for timeout because it was not a technical foul, if it was, all of them would stay back. I think you Americans should confess that you lost that game, the fouls that you did, they were lamentable! The game was fair and square
@@jaliljalilov3876
No, the rules forbade a timeout when the Soviets requested it. None was ever granted. The stoppage with one second remaining was due to assistant coach Sergei Bashkin leaving the bench to accost the scorer's table. That IS a technical foul, and Renato Rhigetto (the referee) would have been fully within his rights to assess one.
*"Under FIBA rules, the Americans won."*
-Hans Tenschert, official scorekeeper, 1972 Olympic basketball final
@@roberteugene7295 the think is that the general secretary of FIBA himself told that soviets should have the 3 seconds. Moreover, if you think that the game was rigged then how did Americans play rugby against soviets? That was literally rugby, the players were bleeding, they were being knocked out, while the referees ignored it all
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It's Bill Walton's fault! Haha! Seriously, if Walton had not opted out playing on Team USA in protest in 1972, this game would have never been close.
Bro Bill Walton is a walking Injury
@@nomnom9992 Bill Walton was a monster in college…
@@nomnom9992 If Bill Walton never got injured he would have been a top 5 center all time,dude was an absolute beast he was such a skilled center .
@@Jcon4002 Yes Walton was that good
If Walton played in 1972 though he might have gotten hurt walking to the airport and may have never played in the NBA
I got the feeling that Jones would have kept resetting till the Russians won.
If the clock was not properly set, then how did the final buzzer go off?
It was probably set at 53 seconds, and three seconds ticked down
and the timekeeper pressed the buzzer to reflect the 3 seconds....
Only the timekeeper could admit this, but he said nothing because of embarrassment
And the British FIBA president is telling the referee and timekeeper what to do when he has NO
authority to affect a call or ruling during an Olympic game or activity !
Would the FIFA president, in those days, rush onto a soccer pitch to tell a referee to change a call for a penalty shot in the finals of the World Cup - I don’t think so - the Russian team should never have been given 3 more seconds in the 1st place - their team member rushed to throw the ball into play after the US free throws instead of paying attention to their coach hollering for a timeout
Besides the coach running onto the court to wave at the referee, which was not allowed and should’ve been a tech foul, the clock had run down to 1 second and should’ve stayed at 1 second - that was his players fault for not paying attention to his bench - that’s part of the stress of a timed sport - the FIBA president had no right to rush onto court to insist that they be given the full 3 seconds again - he unilaterally controlled the referees to make them look like jerks - and erased the Russian’s players’s mistake on inbounding the ball in a hurry to cause the loss of those 2 seconds of the 3 - the fool took over judging the game while the game was still on!
The game would’ve played out after their time out from 1 second left on the clock, and if the Russians didn’t like it, they could’ve launched a protest to see how it feels to be judged for their errors - no one would cry foul, but it’s ok to give them extra chances to make them win a prize that they seemed to be in control of for 90% of the game - these people have never won a game that they were so bitterly losing, and couldn’t allow the miracle of a come back by their opponent, especially from a USA team that has never lost a game in the Olympics - that’s why the FIBA president rushed in - too much fear and no sportsmanship
The clock was still set with 1 second remaining, not being reset. Jones never went on the court. He went to desk raising three fingers.
@@johnburns4017
Jones illegally interfered. He shouldn't have been at the scorer's table. Period.
man there werent only russians in the team there were also different people from ussr
@@why8532
Yes, Lithuanians, Ukrainians and Byleorussians
Because it wasn't the final buzzer; it was probably the clock operator hitting the horn telling the referees to stop the game.
Granted--I'm critiquing this in a digital world when the clock was at best running on analog. But if I were the referee in an Olympic Gold Medal game, I would not have handed the ball off to the player before the clock was ready to go.
Love the subtitles!!!
How does the referee keep adding 3 seconds? I’ve played all my life and never seen that happen
Because initially when USSR had 3 seconds left, the timer skipped 2
Because thry cheat
It wasn't the referee who added the 3 seconds. William Jones, who was the head of FIBA and who felt that the American's dominance of the game in the Olympics wasn't a good thing, came out of the stands to order the time put back on the clock. The problem was the refs and the timekeeper didn't have the cajones to tell their boss he couldn't do what he wanted to do.
@@tonyg3630 no it’s not because somebody thought ussa dominance in basketball isn’t a good thing, it’s because the Russians wanted a timeout right away before throwing the ball at 0:03 but because of a mistake from the judges and not from the russians. It’s not their fault so they gave them the timeout at 0:01 which is also wrong. They replayed with the timer at 0:01 first time but it had to be at 0:03 and the bell rang right away and that’s 100% unfair that’s why they brought them back the 0:03 and gave them another attempt. Doing otherwise was surely unfair because 3 seconds are 3 seconds and they should play according to fair rules and not have a disadvantage because of a mistake from the judges
in nba refs often give more seconds when its end of game and for example shotclock didnt stop at time of whistle, this hapened here too, first stoppage was fail to call for timeout, so they restartet but 2 second went during this chaos and they added those lost 2 second to restart properly
in defense of the BS... The 2nd ending was BS, there was .50 on the clock haha. Also, even the very last ending.... Defense should have stopped that play! it was crazy they made that play.
McMillan of the US had the right to stand right up to the out of bounds line, but was told to back up. He did because he was afraid to get a technical foul. I just spoke with a member of the 1971 Canadian Pan American team, John Olson, who said that he had heard that the referee from Brasil was crooked.
@@garymols9565
Considering the fact that he supported the American appeal, including saying that "the end of that game and the appeal committee is completely outside the rules of the game of basketball." He (his name's Renato Rhigetto) was overruled by R. William Jones. Your relative (Herb Mols) understood that, I thought.
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What does this mean?
the reason why soviets got a 3 seconds again because they made a mistake and gave then 1 second in the 2nd time so they had to give 3 seconds again
It wasn't a mistake that he did not guard the inbound pass when he did guard the first two times and it was allowed. The official pointed to the line and waved him back and told him not to guard the third inbound pass. That can be seen clearly. if he was allowed to do as he did the first two times, it would not have been an accurate pass and the time would have run out. If he had have gotten closer to guard the pass, there is no doubt in my mind he would have been hit with a technical. So much for fair play by the Communists. They did right by not attending the awards ceremony. They know they won the gold and to admit they didn't want to be humiliated with the silver. They did right.
The USA should have been scratched from the competition _immediately_ when not attending the awards.
The official reminded the US player not to pass over the line. He cannot tell him to keep away. The Soviets did nothing wrong, neither did the official.
@@johnburns4017 The official clearly waved him back making it easier to throw the ball in. He didn't need to be shown not to be "pass over the line" that is common knowledge. The official made up a new rule. I don't give a damn about the silver no matter what they do. You are just as big a cheat as they are. Showing up for the silver would be an admission of defeat and we oh so clearly won that gold medal. All of the medals are so badly tainted with commie crap that they can shove them up their asses.
@@GGE47
The official made it clear to him to not go over the line, He was helping him. That was clearly obvious.
@@johnburns4017
We've been over this ground before, and you have no facts to support your conclusions. Had it not been for the *ILLEGAL* interference of Renato William Jones, there would have been no reset of the clock, and no third inbound attempt. There would have been a second inbound attempt in front of the scorer's table near midcourt, with one second remaining, per the ruling of the referee, Renato Rhigetto.
@@johnburns4017 The communist party Bribed the officials Which was special because of their 50th anniversary For the Soviet union
It’s never controversial when USA wins.😂
Well we, the USA, got sweet revenge eight years later in hockey, USA 4 USSR 3.
Only we didn't have to cheat. We won fair and square in 1980.
Revenge in a different sport? That makes no sense
@@diegobenalcazar4836 But the same nation that cheated us in basketball.
@@diegobenalcazar4836 he means in a general sense, even though it wasn’t the same sport. Gold medal for a Gold medal
@@diegobenalcazar4836 hockey is russia's sport. Its even better than better revenge
Could someone explain why the 3 seconds was replayed 3 times?
First time was odd enough then the second was just crazily ridiculous!
Almost as if it was going to happen again and again until they did score!?
The person operating the horn. 🤨
Diabolical.
One hand on the horn, the other hand on his horn...
One Russian player already holding a bottle of vodka celebrating 😁😂
Главное что не с флагом гомосексуализма
Cold war but in the basketball court
You would of thought Americans would appreciate the Hollywood ending.
I "would of" thought you'd appreciate the English language. 😄
@@kqr573v2 Yeah and ?
So, if the clock was not properly set on the first inbounds try, how did the Americans know the game was over? Were they just assuming three seconds had run off? Also, on that first inbound try, it looks like that little Soviet guard almost canned his full court attempt. Maybe it was an optical illusion, but I thought it hit the rim. What a finish that would have been!
Because of the fact that it takes more than 3 seconds to run that play. Once Sergei Belov touched the ball, the clock starts. Throwing the ball the length of the floor requires more time than that.
listen to the announcer of american himself ... coulin about to take the free throws... and the announcer acknowledge "3 secs left",, first inbount is 3 secs ,, unfortunately the issue is on the scorest table, they didnt bzz the buzzer,, even tho the russian coach called for it... its not running time so team opposite had the luxury to call a time out .. thats y the play goin ang clock as well too.., on the second inbound they forgot to reset the clock back to 3 secs.... that the reason why they had to stop and tried again... William Jones didnt dictaqte that ,, it was on the clock at the play before hand... clearly it was a mistake ,, from the commitee's table,, that y they do the right thing to inbound in proper time ... 3 secs... unfortunately to US that claims there was a foul which is not happened.... clearly US team refused to accept defeat....,,,,,,,,, it was the right to do...... hate that isiah thomas ,, done that as well back in 91 playoffs
The referee restarted the game without coordination with the scorers table.
huh, stop trolling.
@@roberteugene7295 I just realized something if that particular play took Longer than 3 seconds to play then shouldn't the 3rd imbound play have Ended right when Alexander Belov caught the ball? Basically ending the Game with the ball in his hands?
I don’t blame the Soviets. I blame those incompetent refs. That’s just ridiculous.
And premature celebrations. All the people running into the court gave the Soviet coach a chance to make a play. They would not have been able to make that 3 second play otherwise.
I agree. As much as I wouldn't like the idea of them beating the Americans on the court, they did everything the right way. They tried to call a timeout, which wasn't granted and they protested. Somehow, that got them a chance and then the second chaotic thing happens because of technical issues. Plus, the Americans didn't set themselves up. Say what you will about the game. There would've been controversy either way. At the end of the day though, despite whatever feelings that were there, the Soviets didn't try to screw things up intentionally. There was just so much chaos that unfortunately hasn't been resolved, but they did the right way.
@KWCline91
Add one thing that everything rests on. The wilful interference of one Renato William Jones, secretary general of FIBA. Under rules he authored and swore to uphold, he violated both the letter and spirit of those rules, which gave on-court officials absolute authority over a game in progress.
He then sought to protect the result of his malfeasance by violating more rules in appointing his friend, Ferenc Hepp, to the review committee (FIBA rules state that only FIBA members representing a country with a team in the tournament may sit on a review committee, and Hepp represented Hungary, who had no team in the 1972 Olympic basketball tournament). Hepp repeatedly showed his bias, and the on-court officials agree, under FIBA rules, the US won.
Actually the refs were not incompetent. They did everything they could to insure that the Soviets would win. They did a great job. Where is the controversy? It's obvious the game was fixed.
@@roberteugene7295 How did Jones get his friend Ferenec Hepp on the committee in the 1st place cause I feel that both the Olympic Committee & FIBA Committee/ Olympic Basketball Committee would put a STOP to that wouldn't they?
I just don't understand.... They inbound and call a timeout they don't have ? So they give the ball back and dude bricks a 75% court bomb, people storm the court and then they give the ball BACK to the Russians is that what I'm seeing ? Or am I missing something. Even if he had the timeout after that shoot and the american grabbed the rebound shouldn't it have been a change or possession? Or did they just re do the same 3 seconds 3 times
That is a great point. I didn’t think about the changing possessions. 👍
The ruling was that the second play never actually happened . The scoreboard clock was still being would down to 3 seconds and therefore the play was nullified . That was ordered by the British FIBA guy, Jones
Why did USA not guard the inbounds pass?!
Because Coach Iba didn't believe in such Tom foolery when he learned the game of basketball in 1903
- The ref ordered Tom McMillen to stand three feet from the inbounds line.
Despite the goofy ending, and the arguable screw job, that pass the Soviet inbounder threw has to be one of the greatest passes in basketball history. I had to watch it 3 times to appreciate it. He put it right on the money from 90 feet away and with a lot of pepper on it too. Incredible
His name's Ivan Edeschko. He and Alexander Belov played for the same club team and had made a similar play in Soviet league games before.
The actual problem is that Edeschko never checked in at this point (he would have been rejected by the officials had he done so), and his participation in the play was an egregious rule violation.
@@roberteugene7295 Just an incredible full court pass -- right on the money
Indeed great pass. The question is that the 6'11" Tom McMillen was put on the court to guard the inbound pass, and then he backs AWAY from the passer when the ref hands the guy the ball. Now he has no obstruction to making a full court pass. If you are not going to put the 6'11" guy right on the passer, then he should have been under the Russian hoop to deflect any such pass before Belov got it. Horrible coaching, and great play by the Soviets. McMillen ended up in a place were he was essentially useless.
@@MM-yn9db That was a strange move by McMillen... what was he trying to accomplish?
No idea why we moved the defender who was on the inbounds pass.
Why is everybody in the comments giving credibility to this game by making this and that argument as to why the USA team lost? Isn't it clear? The refs were going to give the Soviets the ball until they won - Three shots at it? Don't you see, the game was fixed. Period.
If you had read anything about this game, you would have known that the Soviet Union was almost robbed twice. In the first case, the referees "erroneously" did not notice the request for a time-out. The second time they gave the Soviets one second, instead of three. Yes, they were not going to change the decision if some influential man in this field (I honestly don’t remember his name) confirmed that there was one second on the scoreboard. What the hell is a bribery match? Russia and the USSR have always been condemned everywhere, before and after. The judges were not Russian or Soviet people, but foreigners (possibly Americans) I laugh at the Americans who think this match was bought.
@arKtorus_bs it was a 3-2 vote with 3 people from pro Russia countries lol
loser
@@ohtrashcannoob
Oh boo hoo. 😢
Russia won fair and square.
That USA #13 he's poor defence at the last moment
That American team was even worse than the one from 1988. Only Collins was good, the rest were mediocre. And if we add to that that the Soviet team was the best up to that moment...
And for some reason this William Jones guy is in the Basketball HOF.
He was inducted in the 1960's for his efforts to build international basketball into a world wide sport.
8:17 grab a stop watch and start it as soon as the ref hands the ball over, then hit stop when you hear the siren, its 3 seconds!! No wonder USA felt ripped off they were a victim of multiple circumstances. If the coach didn't call timeout they might have won anyway lol we will never know. People panic under stress, well most do, others thrive like MJ.
The clock doesn't start when the ref hands the ball over. It starts as soon as someone touches the ball after it is inbounded.
The Soviet coach called Timeout as Collins was on the ground before he took the two throws. Play should have been taken back to that point. It was not.
@@johnburns4017
1) No, they didn't call timeout within the rules. 2) FIBA rules in 1972 forbade "replaying" time. Once the time was off the clock, it was gone. 3) FIBA rules forbade taking down a score once officially recorded. Either the referee called it good or immediately waved it off, once called good, it couldn't be removed after the fact.
@@roberteugene7295
The Soviets called a timeout.
@@johnburns4017
They didn't. And you know it. Not until it was too late.
I'm wondering why the appeal was denied when the Americans timely objected to the
.03 time out
It always works that way when you are dealing with Communists. They wouldn't let the USA players guard the inbound pass like we did originally. The official kept waving him back on the second try. Scared of a technical foul the didn't try on the third try. Down at the other end they had to keep a certain distance with the player at the other end. This is vintage Communism.
The appeal was denied but again that was a FIBA issue and clearly some people were pro CCCP Soviet Union
There were 3 Communists and 2 non Communists on the appeals side.
@@GGE47 As always bringing politics into sports lol
Also, funny how when it comes to sports in the 20th century North Americans (Canadians in hockey and Americans in everything else) have been by far the biggest cheaters from refereeing to doping. Apparently for Americans it's hard to accept that the USSR (and Germany at times) had better results at the Olympics. Anyway doesn't take more embarassing than the US losing in basketball, their own sport, to the Soviets to whom basketball wasn't even a top 3 most played/popular sport.
@@hristo5689 We still haven't accepted that silver we didn't win and never will. The gold we won are scattered all over creation.
My father, the late Herbert Mols from Buffalo, NY, was not only a member of the US Olympic basketball committee but was also the US team manager along with MK Summers. Mr. Mols is seen in this NBC report having a very heated exchange of words with the Ad Hoc Chairman of the Munich Olympic Basketball Appeals Committee, J. Hepp of Hungary. First of all, Mr. Hepp's country, Hungary, did not have a team entered in the Olympic tournament. The rule book states the Appeals Committee may only be populated by members of countries that were competing in the Olympic tournament.. Hungary was not competing in basketball and therefore Hepp should not have been seated at the Appeals table. .His presence TILTED the final call in favor of the EASTERN BLOC countries. Also the rules state that only the scorekeepers and referees control the clock AND NOT the Chairman of the International Basketball Committee, William Jones of the UK who came out of the stands to tell the officials at the scoring table that they needed to put 3 seconds back on the clock... not once, but thrice. It would be like the Commissioner of the NHL coming down to the ice and overturning a goal or penalty called by the OFFICIALS.
Here is the posted video: ruclips.net/video/MdqmVUkg8tw/видео.html
Jones did not control the clock.
It's a ridiculous explanation, come on
its not the issue .. get back on the tape again .. analyze the situation why they had to make 3 tries becoz it wasnt properly coordinated on table commiteee .. coash of russia called the time even before coullins shoot the first one ... the situation getting heated when people not understand ing issuue ... there should be a time call after collin made the two baskets freetrow.... but it didnt came.. and there was still 3 secs... while even before coling make the free trow...so thays y... its clearly US didnt accept the defeat ,, and claiming it was robbed.... shame.....................................................................................................
1st inbound no timeout.........clocks runs and dont reset at 3 sec...
2nd inboung time called but wrong time in the clock, so Jones correct the 3 secs
and the final inbound which is the right thing to do... Russia Wins....... thats how it the anotomy of that controversial game... claiming it was robbed even it not................SHAME i wasnt born that yet .. only to watch that game ..... oh goshhhhhhhhhh
@@reddbass12
Look I saw the footage and the referees made the correct call.
It wasn’t cheating, it was just incompetence.
The officials were so desperate to avoid any complaints, they inadvertently caused one of the biggest controversies in Olympic history.
I personally think the US team should’ve taken their silver medals.
That's what I said. At worst it was William Jones putting his thumb on the scale. But without evidence the Russians had any hand in that, I wouldn't call it cheating.
@@squigglyline2813 William Jones admitted years after, that he wanted to avoid any Russian protests, so agreed to the three seconds as he didn’t think the Russians had a prayer of scoring.
@@sarahjackson1860
And, under rules he instituted and swore to uphold, he shouldn't have interfered at all. In either the game nor the appointment of subs for the appeal committee (one, his friend Farenc Hepp, was ineligible under FIBA rules).
@@squigglyline2813
Evidence exists. No timeout was granted through all this chaos, yet the Soviets inserted a key player, Ivan Edeschko, the man who made the pass to Alexandr Belov for the controversial basket. He didn't even report in at the scorer's table, and his participation was entirely in violation of the rules.
And Jones didn't just put his thumb on the scale, he put both hands on them.
USSR won that game ! Period !!!
De lado as confusões do jogo o passe do jogador soviético para Alexander Belov foi fantástico, sensacional, amazing!
Soviets cheated
Pass by a player (Ivan Edeschko) who wasn't even officially entered into the game.
Gran pase! Fue increíble como un equipo que parecia ser el favorito termino derrotado, parecido a aquel 1 - 7 que Alemania le propicio a Brasil manito kkkkk parabens
This isn't a tape of the 2020 election?
Kinda similar to Roy Jones Jr. in the 1988 Seoul, South Korea Olympics. The judges intentionally gave Park Si-Hun the better score card when Roy actually scored higher than Park.
Carbajal got messed over too
Oddly, Roy Jones Sr got screwed over in the 1972 games. Don't know if it's on RUclips, but I saw it.
The real mistake was playing it instead of refusing and protesting it in front of a committee.
The call of referees was right. That would have been antisportship what you proposed
@Ryan Nigro, given the circumstances of how it all played out, I also always thought Coach Iba should've pulled the US team off the floor and refused to replay those final 3 seconds again for a second time and forced the Olympic committee to make some sort of ruling on the situation first.
@@GBeret83 The decision would have been, "play ball!"
Well after a T called on Team USA (LOL)
Absolutely. By going on the court, they acknowledged what was going on. The US was ripped off by the refs. Nevertheless, it was poor sportsmanship not to take the silver.
ahah
I saw that game and I'm still pissed off, USA was robbed of the Gold medals
HEROES🍀⭐🏀
9:28 I bet that was Vodka he's raising ! :)
I just realized something amazing to me. I was 14 at the time when I watched this game on TV. I remember being as pissed off as I have ever been. I was young and had nothing riding on this except 2 things. Country pride which I didn't even know I had. And hatred toward Russia which I was taught and agreed with at the time, which as it turns out, was well placed.
I am now 66 years old and for the first time in my life I can look back and recognize that that moment was a life altering moment that formed an opinion that is a major cornerstone in my everyday thought process.
If a cheating country can cheat on the biggest stage in the world with the entire world's population watching and get away with it. Then nothing will ever deserve my undying respect or admiration again. From that day forward, I had no respect for the Olympics or their committees. I never got invested in the games in general and over the next 52 years it only got worse. They never did one single thing to redeem themselves.
And this year, over all others, I lost 110% respect for the USA Olympic Committee when they by-passed Caitlin Clark for the womans basketball team. The team has 12 players and according to this committee of knowledgeable experienced people, the record setting rookie sensation and probably the most popular player in WNBA history is only the thirteenth best player in the league. A committee cannot be that brain dead and expect people to ever endorse them again. After the opening ceremony nonsense, the final nail in the coffin, I did not watch a single event and I not only feel as though I missed NOTHING, I feel as if I am a better person for it.
When you look at the NFL cheating, the NBA cheating, the MLB cheating, and the boxing fixed fights, there is not a sport or government on the planet I have any respect for. The cost of eating out is so out of control I had to learn how to cook. Disney parks are so expensive I need a second full time job to afford to go. Who can find the time to go to a theme park when you have two full time jobs? And if you could go you would just be disappointed at all the things you can't do. All the rides that don't work. Snow White is a Mexican. Cinderella is a lesbian. Peter Pan is gay, and Cruella De Vil is a transexual. I don't really all that race-gender bullshit, but I don't really want it taught to children at this time.
Anyway, that's all I've got for today. Go away now.
Collins was wiped out by that cross body block.
Looks like a disorganized system to me. Nothing wrong by the teams just bad operations by ppl who are supposed to run the game. Losing is good sometimes tho, it helps you learn and grow. I wish they did take their medals because a silver medal is also worth bragging about.
USA played their hearts out and came within 1 point of the Gold Medal. No shame in that.
@@DanielSong39 except they were created
@@DanielSong39
Except for the fact that one man caused them to fall short by one point. That was Renato William Jones, who, under FIBA rules he swore to uphold, should not have interfered. His interference is the lone cause of the result.
@@roberteugene7295 I think the dude's name was Alexander Belov
@DanielSong39
Incorrect. Had Jones abided by FIBA rules that he swore to uphold, Belov would not have had the opportunity to score that basket, which should have been disallowed on several violations.
My only question is. While the clock is running, since when did the score keeper's allowed to dictate timeouts being called? If the refs didn't hear the time out it should be played as that. They miss calls, make bad calls and we don't get to redo all those. Regardless of the 3 seconds not being g put on the board correctly. They still got their chance to score and they failed. The whistle is the official call. They count the backcourt with their hands and 3 in the key. I'm sure they they could of handled saying. " was 3 seconds" america wins
In FIBA, timeouts are requested at the scorer's table and are to be granted at the next/current dead ball
What’s the issue, first time the clock wasn’t set, second time they scored within 3 seconds
What's the issue? Watch the replay. The ball was inbounded with :03 on the clock. They inbounded and dribbled to half court before the timeout was called with :01 second on the clock. Where'd the :03 seconds that were put back on the clock come from in the first place, and not once, but twice? If the correct :01 had been put back on the clock, even giving them two chances to score, the clock would have expired by the time he got the shot off.
@@kqr573v2 relax you got your miracle on ice you never stop going on about so call it even🤷♂️😂
The issue seemed to be that the Soviets couldn't get a timeout in before Doug Collins 2nd free throw and interrupted play on the ensuing inbounds play. Rather than be assessed a technical foul, or pick up play from when the clock was stopped at one second, someone who was not on the floor for the game (the FIBA president) said give them 3 seconds.
Here was a quote from R. William Jones (head of international basketball) after the game "The Americans always win but they must also learn how to lose!!" and he was the one who came down from the stands and ordered the game clock reset at three seconds but he really had no actual authority to do so.
Correct. In fact, the rules FORBADE him from doing so. What's more, he wrote that rule.
I like their version of the Key.
The score keeper was suppose to sign a paper after the game but refuse to... I find that rather interesting 🤔
Source?
@@druzo5198 Watch the video
@@druzo5198
Interview with Hans Tenschert, official scorer, 1972 basketball final.
That's doesn't mean anything
@@frankprior9376
It means the result is not official.
I will just say this..... Its all in the video... have a nice day
You can rationalize it any way you want but the players didn't decide this game.. This was a comedy of errors by people not playing or coaching deciding who wins. World politics needs to be left out of sporting events because this is the result; a farce of epic proportions.
Why he run like that after he scored lmao kinda sus
United States and former country Soviet Union are both largest countries
I saw this as a kid and was delighted to see Russia win. Theyd been ahead for all the game and when Collins took the foul it looked staged.
That last second score by Russia was amazing.
Those ducks hate losing
looking back with hindsight and age, I think the best way the US team could of handled it would of been to go to the medal ceremony with the IOC knowing they wouldnt accept the silver medals, but still be there for respect of the team that played them to the very end. Those players were just as innocent as the americans imo and it would of given us american's a better look when it came to sportsmanship.
damn a lot of american here in comment section still refuses to claim they're loss
Because team USA didn't lose. In the words of Hans Tenschert, the game's official scorer, "under FIBA rules, the Americans won."
Because the Soviets/Russians cheated. Intentionally. As they do in all things
Hard to swallow isn’t it? The only way the other team won was because the refs decided to screw the USA
Did you watch the video? Shit was rigged to hell. Kept giving the Soviets 3 seconds.
Lol peenoise
The team should have NEVER went back on that court. They would have had to fire me....
THE END....
I just heard about this earlier today and your damn right. Should have left to the locker room and called it a day.
The whole USA Team should have simply abandoned the basketball court after the game was originally over.
They didn't accept the silver medals, haven't to this day
it would have counted as a forfeit if they did
Yes , initially, was going to be forfeited. but then with the protest evidence presented of the game administration anomalies , USA would have a very heavy case against them.
Bad losers, that says it all. Their sense of entitlement was disgraceful.
There were some officials on the court and in the stands who really wants the US to lose that game. They make mistakes multiple times and the US had to pay for it every time.
.today....RIP .. Jim Forbes # 10 ,USA team..UTEP Miners !!..
Shame be upon Tom McMillen for backing away and permitting the Soviet player to throw the ball uncontested. There could and should have been a different outcome.
Yes I don't know what he was thinking there. I know the ref made that motion with his hand but in no way in any scenario in basketball are you not allowed to guard the passer.
That was bull shit
Poor Americans.. cry me a river. Crimea river!
That was an intentional very dangerous defensive hard foul from below with the offensive player in the air on way to the basket. Therefore, it should have been after the free throws, USA keeps the ball. That was the first cheat. The illegal time out, second cheat. The first additional 3 seconds, the third cheat. The second additional 3 seconds, the fourth cheat.
There was no 'flagrant foul' call back then
Messed up at the end? To bad … great game… can’t believe that Walton did not want to participate??
l firmly think that this wouldn't happened if the abausa had selected some players as: Pete Maravich, David thomposon, Bob Mcdoo and Will Walton.
Well if they had selected the true dream team of 1972 including Kareem Abdul Jabbar, wilt chamberlain, Dr. J and bill walton, they would have won every game by 150 points. But it's not USSR's fault if USA decides to send its 9th string
@@JStarStar00 Professional athletes were not allowed to compete in the Olympics in 1972.
USSR defeated U. S. in basketball Olympic Games 1972
By cheating
Wrong. USSR was *declared* the winner. They didn't earn it.
Zzzzz
Is moot. If we were allowed to send players like KAJ, Tiny and Wilt, we would have humiliated them
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US would have won by 100+ points.
Heck, the NBA could have sent the Portland Trailblazers (18-64 the previous season) to the Olympics to represent team USA, and they'd have run roughshod over the Soviets (and everyone else).
Randy Harvey of the LA Times, *_"The Americans thought at every turn they had been cheated. They probably hadn't been but they still haven't acknowledged that."_*
*1.* The Soviet's bench called a timeout when Collins was on the court's floor running into the scaffolding, after being fouled. 3 seconds remain.
*2.* The Soviet bench *did not* call timeout between Collins' two foul shots, or after when the Soviets went up the court. It was *before* these two events.
*3.* Collins puts the USA ahead with his two baskets.
*4.* The horn sounds before Collins pops the second - an odd time for the horn to sound. The horn sounded as the ball had left Collins' hands.
*5.* The sounding horn was an acknowledgement that a Soviet timeout should have been awarded earlier. The Soviets did not call timeout illegally between Collins' two shots. Soviet coaches were on the line indicating they want a timeout.
*6.* Play _quickly_ resumed after Collins scores, with 3 seconds remaining, with a Soviet inbound *_(1st)._* The Soviet bench were still on the line rightly protesting that they wanted a timeout (called before Collins' baskets & acknowledged by the horn) and that was being ignored.
*7.* There was 1 second left. The ref stops play at 1 second left seeing the Soviet bench pointing to him making "T" signs with their hands.
*8.* The ref saw this error then compensated slightly setting the clock back to 3 secs taking the ball back to the line for another Soviet inbound, *_(2nd),_* resetting play. Three seconds now remain. The ref could have started the game at one second remaining, however taking the ball back to the line means resetting the time back to 3 seconds. Now back to the state of play and time after Collins scored.
*9.* The ref never gave the Soviet timeout, which he should have done. At this point the Soviets are being cheated.
*10.* The Bulgarian umpire, not the Brazilian ref, resumed play before the clock was reset to 3 secs, allowing play to resume at 1 sec on the unset clock with the *_(2nd)_* Soviet inbound.
*11.* The US thought the game was over with them winning as the horn was sounded after 1 second.
*12.* The Ref saw the errors of:
a) not resetting the clock
b) resuming play without his authority.
He is in charge not the umpire.
*13.* The ref puts matters right, resetting the clock to 3 secs taking the ball back to the line for another Soviet inbound, the *_(3rd)._* *There is nothing wrong with that decision.*
*14.* The US players fully understood that the clock had not been reset and why play was being resumed.
*15.* The Soviets threw the ball up the court from their *_(3rd)_* inbound popping the winning basket within 3 secs.
*Winners !!*
*The ref did most right - he saw two errors and put matters right.* He should have done more, annulled Collins scores and taken play back to the point that Collins was on the floor when the Soviets called timeout, giving the Soviets the timeout they called for. After the Soviet timeout Collins could take his two free throws again. Or the Soviets could have the timeout between Collins' two throws. The ref was unaware that the Soviets called timeout when Collins was on the floor, the scorer on the desk never informed him. The USA team were beaten fairly.
*The USA gripe -* was that Jones the FIBA head, went down to the scorers table and suggested that the clock be reset to 3 secs from 1 sec, as it should have been. The ref was doing this anyhow. He could have suggested taking the play back to the Soviet timeout call, which would have been the fair and right thing to do. He never. The ref had no need to take any notice of anyone, he was 100% in command. The Soviet timeout was called when Collins was on the floor.
*The Soviet gripe -* was that their timeout call, when Collins was on the floor, was ignored. They only got 2 seconds more in compensation - that was it - well it was just taking play and time back to the point Collins scored. They never got the timeout they called for with even a horn sounding for it. They got nothing. They made full use of the 3 seconds by putting play back to position after Collins' scored, so were satisfied.
The replay shows an official handing the ball to Collins just before time out buzzer goes off - by the rules, the ball is in play in the opponents hands and time out cannot be called with ball in play in possession of the opponent
The Russian player who inbounded the ball after the free throws wasn’t paying attention to his bench and rushed the play to put his team under heat, and the FIBA president rushing onto the court just fuels more the controversy of a high profile figure, who I’m sure the referee recognized
Why should they be rewarded the 2 extra seconds on the 1 second left if the time out was recognized after the players wasted 2 seconds not paying attention to their bench - the time out that the Russians were hollering for during the three throws should’ve been awarded after free throws were done with ball in Russians hands - Russian players, Russian coach, time keeper, referee and FIBA president vs USA team - that difference caused the tilt to give 3 chances to win
@@victorfiorillo6569
The FIBA president *never* went onto the court. The ref is in charge, no one else, irrespective who is attempting to influence him. The whole crowd was screaming to influence the ref in some way or other.
The ref could have suggested taking the play back to the Soviet timeout call, which would have been the fair and right thing to do. He never.
The injustices of officiating decisions was more towards the Soviets. Despite that, they still won.
What a crock of shit. I suggest you familiarize yourself with how competition works. Not just basketball, but all sports. In every single one, there are doctrines that govern competition. For example, the player/team on the side of error may not benefit from the error, and the player/team in the right cannot be penalized. There's also a doctrine that once you've accepted the result, you cannot and played on, you cannot retroactively go back and protest.
The Russians weren't granted a time out, so what? They chose to inbound the ball and play on. So after their inbound was unsuccessful , they get to protest and redo?
Show me one rule book in any sport that you're allowed to redo events until you achieve the results you want. Good luck finding one.
@@SLAOWMonk
Look at the factual timeline. The Soviets won fair ad square.
@@johnburns4017 Maybe I didn't make myself clear. Look at your own timeline. The SOVIETS inbounded the ball. Play had resume. Want to reread the doctrine of once you resume play, you have accepted the result? This is not a quantum state where you can argue the coaches were protesting while the players try to score.
Play had resume and there should be one second left on the clock. That was the basis of the US protest and they were absolutely correct.
lol wtf, no timeouts and you stop the clock for the Soviets? Twice?
Why do I think if they didn’t score the third time. They would have been given a 4th try…then a 5th try…then a 6th try until the ending was right.
There was a series of officiating mistakes, and the FIBA director came out of the stands to direct the ending.
All a coincidence? Not a planned result? ok. Just incompetence, over and over and over? suuuuuure.
They hate us.
O abritro e brasileiro
No
Oh come on, if the situation were in reverse, the Americans would say absolutely the same things "We just used all chances we were given... they have to accept things as they are...", etc. People always have bias and don't even notice it.
That's why there are judges, and every participant agrees to trust their decision, unless found some paid arrangements or similar things. Nothing of the kind was found here, so the decision of the judges has to be accepted by both parties, no matter who believes what.
And btw, the USA could ensure the victory by playing a level better than the USSR, and they didn't. They weren't stronger in this particular game.
That's where your wrong. You said if it was reversed, but it never will be reversed because that's the Russians past, not the USA. We weren't the ones who were sore losers and cheated to win. But Russia have to cheat to win. Also you can't say "if" the roles were switched because we didn't cheat and wouldn't have cheated. Face it Russia can think they won but at the end of the day the victory was ours
@@simply.avery0754 at the end of the day USSR took the gold, USA lost. You can call it cheating but basically you cannot accept the loss it’s that simple. There’s plenty of proof they’ve called tome out before 5he throws, not between them. If the American clock worked properly there would have been a different result, but as you said no “if”
@@leracaptures6992
Incorrect. There's zero evidence that the Soviets called timeout in the allotted time. All actual evidence demonstrates that the Soviets failed to call timeout.
By the way, the clock and the operator (Andre Chopard) were French. The fact remains that the Soviets would surely have lost without illegal interference by William Jones.
Removing comments against Americans? Lol 😂😂
hard to feel being cheated when 39minutes and 57 seconds Usa was behind on score in that game
Dream Team One would have been up by at least 50 points. Michael Jordan would raced up the court at a far great speed than Doug Collins and MJ would have scored easily. Then with The Dream Team up by 52 points they would have had Ewing and David Robinson defend under their basket to prevent the "Hail Mary" pass to the Russians from ever being completed!!!! No magic three seconds would have helped Team Russia come back after being down 52 points with just three seconds to go!!!!! As Magic says "The Dream Team baby there is only one"!!!!
Absolutely! The 1992 USA Dream with a Jordan, Bird, Magic, Robinson, Stockton, Malone, Pippen, Barkley, Drexler, Mullin, Ewing would have DESTROYED this team.
are you comparing 70s and 90s basketball? bruh....
The players wanted to run them off the court, but the coach wanted to play conservative.
@@ScorpioBornIn69
The NBA could have sent its worst team (the Portland Trailblazers, 18-64 in 1971-72 season) and they would've clobbered the Soviets.
@@ScorpioBornIn69 That's stupid, 20 years of basketball evolution vs a team from the 70s lol.
Haha that Dutch commentary
Imagine if they played today.. USA will be slamming on their heads
how do you know? 😐
@@why8532 cause Russia is no longer in the olympics
@@Crackhandlez it is
@@Crackhandlez They are. Plus, it wasnt only Russians, it was Lithuanians and Ukrainians in that Soviet team.
We was ROBBED.
If aint first you don't succeed
the ussr was mandatory conscription. of course their team were veterans lmao
legal or not, the last play from Russians was brillant.
Did they or didnt they have an fucking time out? !!!!!!
there was cooking back then.
🕵️ Look closely.
1. After the Russian player tackles Collins for the flagrant foul the ref goes over to that same Russian player to help him up 🤔
2. After the 1st throw in you can see that same ref wave over TWICE the Russian player like "Hurry up, hurry up" before that time out was called that they didn't even have. 🤔
CASE CLOSED.
FIXED AND FAVORED.
It was the table's fault. The Soviets called for a timeout, logically, and the table wanted to give it to them but before the free throws. The Soviets said they wanted it between both free throws, which was legal at the time. When Righetto gave the ball to Collins for the second free throw, the table sounded the timeout signal, but too late. Between Righetto and the table they made the whole mess.
This is what happens when you change the rules on the fly.... 2020!
1-Russian American Navy vet here so 100% fair. Two things to remember and I heard the complaints about the,"Freedom hating refs," however, upon further review, the decision did not come from them. The officials sided with team USA but the decision to add extra time to the game and give the Soviet Union CCCP a do over, CAME DIRECTLY FROM FIBA. Now one can argue that FIBA officials were pro Soviet Union and anti USA but that is not the official's fault. There was so much corruption in the Olympics there are countless strories of how the Iranian wrestler or Bulgarian wrestler-weightlifter, Romanian gymnast would get screwed because they are not Russian or American, see Natalia Komenici getting robbed in the European championships to the Russian. See 1994 Jadidi vs Kurt Angle-the decision could have gone to Jadidi. So basically USA got screwed on two fronts 1- They appealed in a timely manner but the powers to be were hearing NONE OF IT. You can't fault or blame this on the Russians or the refs.
Basketball is a Canadian sport. Inventor 🏀 James Naismith=🇨🇦.
First NbA game@ 1946 played in Toronto .
I am Canadian and I am not a communist, but let's face it. The USSR coach had asked for a timeout before the game resumed, but the referees did not see it. We can give him the benefit of the doubt because of the way he protested before the bell rang. Then, the clock was not set to 3 seconds and the bell sounded when the Soviet player threw the ball. Clearly the game had to be restarted. The best team won.
You’re right. It wasn’t cheating. It was Incompetence on behalf of the officials in their desperation to avoid any controversy.
William Jones admitted he agreed to put 3 seconds back on the clock because he didn’t want any complaints and didn’t think the Russians had a prayer of scoring 😕.
If i was an American player i would’ve been upset though. However, no matter how difficult, they should’ve accepted the result and received their medals. Apparently they’re still locked in a vault in Switzerland 50yrs later.
@@sarahjackson1860
On the contrary, it WAS cheating. I'll remind you, Jones was forbidden by rules he swore to uphold from interfering with a game in progress. Jones ordered a rules violation by ordering the clock reset. The Soviets then, during all the confusion, inserted (in violation of the rules) Ivan Edeschko into the game, who didn't even check in at the scorer's table. His participation was entirely illegal and should be wiped from the game, and in fact, should have been assessed a technical foul, just like assistant coach Sergei Bashkin rushing the scorer's table during play should have been.
Jones's illegal interference combined with the Soviet cheating (not to mention their savagery during the game) is more than enough to overturn the result, and anyone with any sense of fair play knows it.
Yes !! Glory to Russia 🇷🇺
The biggest cheats in the Olympics
Genetic engineerin.... nevermind
I remember watching this game as a kid. The refs were going to give the ball to the Russians until they scored the winning basket. The game was obviously fixed. I remember the medal ceremony. The USA team boycotted it, and the silver medal stand was empty. To this day, not one member of the USA team has accepted the silver medal.
Stole it!
MY HERO GEORGE ICEMAN GERVIN WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ON THAT TEAM BUT HE GOT KICKED OUT OF EASTERN MICHIGAN UNIVERSITY FOR KNOCKING OUT AN OPPOSING PLAYER TOM PICCOLO IF THE ICEMAN WAS ON THE USA SQUAD GAME OVER IN THE FIRST HALF BUT I STILL GOT TO FOLLOW ICE HIS WHOLE CAREER AND I WAS AT THE HALL OF FAME WHEN ICE WAS INDUCTED MAY 1996
What else new. Americans are whining!!!! 😂😂😂😂
USSR were the winners!!
"According to FIBA rules, the Americans won."-Hans Tenschert, official scorer, 1972 Olympic basketball final. Team USA was repeatedly wronged by the orders of Renato William Jones, Secretary general of FIBA. USSR was *declared* the winner by these illegal acts of Jones.
The clock was supposed to have been set to one second!!! Rule is Team Russia can't call a time out while the US is shooting free throws. The in bound should have used up one the remaining three seconds and team Russia calling for time should have used up one of the now remaining two seconds!!!! Thus team Russian should have only one second!!!! That final second would have expired with the ball traveling in the air over mid court!!!! That would have been correct.
BingCherry11 the Soviets scored in 2 seconds through the whole field...despite the americans dirty cheating and pretending to fall at the end of the game-they still managed ti score!! That is amazing, and that us pure victory..they did score in those 3 seconds!! Amazing and rightful victory!
@@neptunefog6082 wait you mean in the 9 seconds right
@@neptunefog6082 Yes. You right man. Agree with ya. We, Russians, NEVER GIVE UP!
@@neptunefog6082 I'm not American and I'd be utterly and completely embarrassed if my country won a gold medal like that.
@@bradlyvincent1634 this is Russia, nearly all their medals are tainted by supplements, HGH, steroids, cheating or bribes