The guitar market is now a soft market. Deals for everyone
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00:00 Intro
01:18 Guitar Center selling Suhr Now???
02:17 The guitar market is now a soft market. Deals for everyone. Part 1
08:18 Is that a Knaggs?
12:20 I still think the best deals are at mom and pops.
15:49 Is that a Heritage guitar?
21:28 Why an acoustic is more important than a electric
33:17 No qualified guitar techs? They are getting hard to find
37:10 How should I learn to do fret work?
42:50 Best Metal guitar for a $1,000?
45:54 Do the looks of a guitar matter the most?
50:30 Limited shirt run
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55:20 Why I think Fender Noiseless pickups have issues
1:01:50 A good tube amp?
1:09:49 You hate Teles.
1:12:18 Guitar fetish guitars
1:16:10 Should I do a deep dive of a Dean Zelinsky guitar?
1:23:40 Vintage Gibson pickups vs Seymour Duncan
1:30:05 Stew Mac Dropped prices 30% on 600 items
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1:40:10 I love Creamback speakers (because Im old?)
1:42:00 Gibson pickup not working. what do you test?
1:46:58 Does a top load bridge or a string thru bridge affect tuning stability?
1:48:10 Epiphone Sg video
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1:57:00 Fender Custom Shop or just buy a Suhr
2:08:14 The guitar market is now a soft market. Deals for everyone. Part 2
2:12:00 End of show Badlands talk
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Final tally
57 yes
72 no
3 maybe
Amanda, youre the best
Yes
I think the difference between guitars and cars is that during the 2 Covid years a lot of people bought guitars thinking they were going to learn and now we are starting to see a lot of these guitars for sale after people gave up.
My wife (guitar) and I (bass) are going stronger than ever. 🥳🥳🥳 I try to play 30 min/day. My fingers stopped bleeding after two years (end of 2022).
I bought a truck during the pandemic and don't use it. Selling it to buy more guitars and gear!
People had government money during covid and now they don’t. They need to sell the stuff they bought to buy gas and groceries.
@@vicenzor3625, I don't know, normally? It was the fingers on my right hand that were bleeding. I never played a string instrument before 2020.
Cars are still not being made like they used to while guitar production has stabilized to an extent
Heritage Guitars know how to take care of their customers. I had a H-150 which had a neck problem which I could not resolve in the year I had it, I reached out to their dealer and they replaced the guitar with a new H-150 with no questions asked and that guitar was on a whole other level compared to the old one. The fact that they value their customers is enough for me to buy a Heritage over any other comparable product.
I own an H-575 bought in 2005. Most perfect guitar I’ve ever had!
@@kristopherk5454dito it feels much solid in my hands. It’s the feeling
Everything is a soft market, except needs (food and shelter) and the stock market. Stock bubble gonna bust
Here I am, gladly waiting for the Stew-Mac shipping deal!
Reverb Offers, my new spam
That’s definitely not how I got my new fender tele…
Same !!!
That should be much welcomed spam! Some people cant even get one offer let alone enough of it to think of it as spam consider yourself lucky my friend! 😮
Yep. Ditto
Its great isnt it? 😂
I stopped shopping at guitar center in new england back in 2017 because they wouldn't deal on an ibanez. It was a used rg540. Was on the wall for months it was filthy. I asked the guy if i could nake an offer. He cut me off mid question and said we don't do that and walked away. So i left. Was in like a year later and there was that guitar. At like half the price and cleaned up quite a bit. Fu** em
The clerks have little to no authority on pricing.
One of the best examples of working musicians wanting more of the same thing in their guitars they actually use is Bruce Springsteen. In a show he might play four or five different Telecasters (in different tunings or setup to have capos at different frets), but they all currently have Joe Barden Danny Gatton pickups. He could have literally anything he wants, and he basically just chooses to play very minor variations of the exact same thing.
The thing is, when Bruce plays ifo 15-20,000 people in a mix with 7 other musicians, no one can tell if he’s strumming a 800.00, 2500 or 4500 dollar Tele
I’ve owned maybe 8 different electric guitars over the years and six were telecasters.
To quote Marge Simpson: I just think they’re neat.
@@BAND-MAID-USA he actually plays a lot of lead
I'm in a rural area that has a single music store with way too much selection for this area. That is, they are pretty large. I'm a bass player and finally am thinking of picking up lead guitar, so I checked out my old favorite web site, Rondomusic, and found that their selection is not what it used to be, but the prices are still similar, though they don't have as many "cheap" guitars. I haven't looked there for 14 years, so that was surprising.
Anyway, I was talking to the guy at our local store and I was commenting on current pricing, because his prices were quite a bit higher than the internet prices. He immediately said that they match internet prices. I like to keep the money in the area so I'll be purchasing there...
If Phil reported the regular news I'd be so much more aware of the state of the world. His honesty, knowledge, and industry transparency makes this show a MUST WATCH event each week.
Imagine if an actual news outlet with with Phil's integrity existed. It would slap us in the face everyday proving how wrong each one of us actually are.
The difference between a banjo and trampoline. You take your shoes off before jumping on a trampoline. 😀
I agree the market is soft, but I'm not really seeing a lot of deals. More like stuff is still overpriced and then sitting unsold because sellers don't want to come off their dreams of COVID era riches. For context most my shopping is in the $1000-$3000 range, Gibson PRS, ESP, Fender, etc.
Same with employment. Everyone's short on help but every business owner utterly refuses to pay more for labor. None of the rules apply anymore.
I hate to say this out loud, but I don't really need any more guitars at this point.
Me neither, just got another.
@@powerboon2k I'm good at math: Optimal Number of Guitars (O) = N + 1 where N is the number you have now
Equation checks out.@@cjmagnuson1008
A lot of gigging musicians do stick to 1 or 2 guitars, but for my cover band I usually bring 3 or 4 so I can quick swap between different tunings and to have a backup. Usually 2 tuned to standard and one in E flat and sometimes a 4th in drop C. We play a broad range of songs and our gigs are 3 to 4 hours of music so having a variety keeps it interesting for me and I think guitars should be played. My main is a CE 24 with a strat as its backup then a custom 24 in E flat/drop C#, then an Ibanez for drop C. I do rotate a les paul, a PRS hollowbody, and a V because why buy guitars if they just sit around collecting dust?
The guitars I am always on the lookout for on Reverb are way higher priced now that pre-Covid. Specifically Collings for one. 290s used to go for $1500, now you never see them for less than double that.
“Set up” is such an ambiguous term ranging from setting the guitar to factory specs to nut work, polish, fret sprout, ect. There is value to a great set up, but in my area, I can do it (thanks to Phil) with better results than my local “techs.”
the vans shirts are so much more here because vans shoes had to make a deal with the bochinni family who owned vans pro golf shops. the vans skate board shops were not vans shoes it was owned by vans pro shop, vans shoes payed them 5 million in some deal about the name and then then the bochinnis opened the vans stores at the mall and sold vans shoes. i learned all this because vince bochinni was a good friend. rest in peace. vince played in the van buren wheels the dopest garage band ever from phoenix besides maybe kill baby kill.
Yeah, Phil...there IS a dizzying array of amazing, reasonably priced "Metal" guitars out there...lotsa great "flavors"! Here are MY favorites: that Kramer "The '84" you were trying to remember IS THE "Eddie Axe" of the early '80s! The MIK early production Kramer Pacers ("Vintage" and "Limited Edition") are absolute "TONE MONSTERS"; and you can't beat the feel of the ESP Ltd M-400 EMG or the Jackson Pro Series Modern w/ Fishmans (both 24 fretters)!
Yeah and almost all of them are ugly, lots of cheap looking figuring and abalone.
@@guyincognito320 "...cheap looking figuring and abalone" are featured on NONE of the guitars I named...nor are they UGLY... (maybe your reply was meant for someone else?) 🙂
You described me perfectly again. Owned about 20 electric guitars, wasn't really interested in acoustic then grabbed a Gretsch Jim Dandy when on sale for $150. Now that JD sits on the couch next to me and I grab it more often than any of my others.
The guitar market has definitely softened significantly
No wonder if you look at the current prices. If someone would've told me 5 years ago that Epis will cost 1500 bucks, i would've called him crazy. But that where we are right now.
Practice amp - $500 - Blues Cube. $1,000 - Blues Deluxe. Both sound great right out of the box. One is solid state, one is tubes.
My first acoustic was a used 1972 Ovation with a hairline crack on the top. I still have it but the crack has only grown. I used that as an excuse to buy my second, a beautiful D'Angelico EX-63 archtop. Next was a Hummingbird, an Epiphone "Inspired by Gibson" that is my favorite. I cannot imagine a Gibson could sound any better for 2-3 thousand more. I think an Enya carbon might be my next.
I am one of those wanting one of each, having an SG, an LP, two Strats, wanting a Tele, a Super Strat, a Casino, a semi-hollow, a hollow-body, a PRS, a Gretsch, a Jaguar, a Jazzmaster, I mean, you name the model I probably want one and have many on the wanting list, you know, some day. But only having one acoustic, recently replaced a Fender CD-60 to a mahogany GS Mini and wow, I sometimes spent way more time on that little one than I do on the electrics. Probably will get a full size acoustic, who knows.
Neck feel is most important to me as well
I would agree if the neck doesn’t feel good, there’s no getting past that
Fortunately i like most neck types, but there are some I don’t
After that is the overall feel of the guitar
Hear ya on the deals out there. Some *incredible* ones on the 40th anniversary Squiers right now - i.e., some of those new "used" guitars...
Sorry I missed the live steam today, Phil... busy day! I'm catching up late tonight... as I fall asleep... and will continue when I awake! 🤘😎🎸
I was able to score a 2023 PRS Hollowbody ii 594 10-top for 40% off msrp. Now, it was "used", but it is in mint condition and If I didn't know I would think it was brand new. It only left the factory a few months ago. I never thought I would find one of these in new condition that I could afford.
Phoenix Guitar Center has a few Suhr guitars in stock. All new. Staff there was cool about letting me try them, fantastic playing guitars. That store never disappoints.
Thanks for answering the Noiseless pickup question.
I'm bummed I'm going to have to deal with it eventually, since I liked the lack of hum they had.
The market was bound to get soft, it amazes me when people ask , say, 600.00 for a 3 year old Epiphone that still sells new for 699.00, Geez, at most I would pay 400.00
Someone on my local Facebook is selling a four year old Fender Duo sonic for £25 less than it is new right now. Probably more than he paid for it new. I almost messaged him and ask why on earth he thinks anyone would pay that...
I have several electrics, but I love a couple of my acoustics. My Martin D18 just sounds throaty and feels great in my hands. My Taylor K24ce sounds angelic and fits my hands like a glove. Yes, acoustics truly vary from one to the next in feel and sound. Absolutely.
Tory Slusher
@@mattdelany6799 huh?
Best guitarist in the world. Check her out.
just got a $1,000 bass for $600. Market on reverb has definately softened.
Reverb is full of scammy sellers and they are backed by the incompetent market policing of Reverb who just don't care anymore since it was sold
Can't wait for your review of the Heritage custom! Looks phenomenal!
Guitar factories could shut down for a couple years easily and there would still be enough on the new and used market to fill every niche.
Soft? Not in the UK. Guitar prices up 30-60% since last year. For example: Epiphone Les Paul Custom was £440 ($576) October 2022, now £700 ($916) July 2023 (same shop).
What u said about trying to get all electrics sound the same was brilliant n has changed my way of thinking. Thanx
73° and pleasant in Michigan 🙂
Most premium models aren’t seeing any more deals than prior. The deals are just on the higher volume low and mid tier stuff.
Please please please make a McKnight Dump Truck Co hats/ shirts!
Hey Phil,
Looking forward to the video your planning to do on that Heritage, I don’t own one but I own a handful of Gibsons. I was considering a Heritage when I purchased my Les Paul Standard but I just couldn’t get past the headstock shape ahah! The pick guard shape I guess can grow on me, just so used to seeing the one’s on Gibsons I suppose.
I believe the Heritage models have long neck tenons and they certainly seem to be built very nicely. For me, the jury’s still out on that topic if it actually makes a difference regarding longer sustain though, I think sustain just varies from guitar to guitar like so many other things. 🤙
PhilIip have a 1970s Silvertone acoustic. It has a sound I have never found on any other guitar I love it to death. The older it gets the better it sounds!!
I bought my Suhr Classic T Paulownia at GC Nashville. Great guitar!
Kalamazoo is really close to Ft. Waye, IN. You should be able to hit up KZoo and the Heritage shop next time you're in the region
I got a prs 594 s2 b stock in eriza Verde smoke burst for 1200 bones and a chapman ghost fret pro for 675 in the same week!!!
@@BillySoundFarmthank you!
Yep. If I was rolling in cash I would buy a guitar over a rolex any day. Don't need one of those to tell me that it's time to play guitar.
hahahaha you son of a b****, there’s the laugh i was searching for all night !
Just got a Taylor AD27 lefty model from Sweetwater. $899 down from $1499 MSRP. My first American made guitar; didn't even know I needed it but I do.
Was just in the local GC where the sales clerks were talking about how slow the market is on new guitars because everyone is looking at used which are all over the place right now.
The world of tele style guitars is such a different world now compared to 25 years ago , never thought I’d play one but have two now .. I think more like and acquired taste that develops over time …
Hey Phil, I thought this story might interest you. I got a 5150 III 212 combo for 500$ at a 4th of July sale. It's the first gen with the 6l6s. I think it was sort of a mistake. I think they didn't realize it had been in the store long enough to qualify for such a huge discount. But then I was at their counter asking to buy it according to their own sale, and they honored it. I had store credit from selling them pedals that I actually made a -profit- on because I bought them used really cheap. So it basically cost me 250$ + a couple pedals I bought used that I didn't want anymore.
It felt like the greatest day of my life lol. There's more to the story involving a disappointing traynor amp I returned, 113 degree heat index with 100% humidity and 12 hours driving with no AC. A very k middle aged lady that looked sort of like Nancy Botwin. All in all it was a roller coaster, but very much worth it. Once I finally got home with my amp I was the happiest person alive. I'm probably about to go lick it. I never thought I would get to own an amp like that again without doing something a least slightly financially irresponsible.
Hey Phil, Gibson does sell modern versions of their 70s T type pickups, they don't come stock in many guitars currently, I think they're in the current 335, but you can buy then separately.
Hey Phil, in your settings (on a computer), there's an option to opt out of offers from sellers that are trying to sell "similar" items to the ones you're watching. Unfortunately, Reverb hasn't figured out how to get rid of all the "sellers" with no seller ratings (usually outside the US), asking $950 (usually under $1000) for $3-4000 guitars, with Paypal as the only option to purchase their gear, etc.
Had a bad experience with a Guitar Fetish guitar kit. They sent me something different than what was ordered and expected and did not want to take it back. So I think I’m done with Guitar Fetish.
I read a statistic that there's something like 6 guitars for every guitarist on the planet (I have in excess of 15 at the moment, having sold at least 10 more) so something like the market going soft is kind of inevitable. One of my local guitar shops has just gone online only so I guess I'm not surprised.
Nashville GC has quite a few new Suhr’s in stock.
ukulele player here, I have two ukes, same model and size, one with electronics one without, they feel and sound different. I have three others the same size in different woods and they all sound different.
You have a really good Channel thanks for the great job you do you're very interesting to listen to and very knowledgeable and an excellent guitar player but thanks for your good work preciate it I enjoy watching your videos Tim Colorado Springs Colorado.
I used ti hate teles because I was more into heavy metal. But after i had been playing guitar for about 10 years I bought a telecaster for a stupid reason. A 1994.
I has a sweet spot when you open tune it,. I tune it to open G.
My only really nice electric is a Tele and the build quality and pickups are superb, but I don't quite know how to dial it in. I had an Epiphone SG that was a lot of fun too, darn good pickups and even a resonant body, great for slide guitar. I pawned it back because of bad neck problems but I'd get another one if I had any use for it.
You have a combination of things going on here. The top ends are too high for what they are, low end and mid grades are far better, some gave up the hobby (not us lifers), and the overbuys by dealers.
My complaint with Fender noiseless pickups are that they are quite low output. I have N3s in a strat and I actually like the sound very much, but I have to make the amp work more. Mind you I mostly find that they work well for clean rhythm and you get excellent clarity. That said....very quiet in comparison to Ceramic and regular strat PUPs.
Agree. I have a fat strat with the original noiseless from over 25 years ago. It’s hard to get a good balance between the humbucker and the two singles. Sounds really good though!
If I switch over to my LP there is a big volume boost!
Yes!!! I picked up a 40th Anniversary Vintage Edition Squier Tele for $299.99 plus tax… it really is an incredible instrument. After having owed an Epiphone LP for over a decade and having purchased a Squier Strat last year I was able to complete the holy triumvirate of electric guitars. :)
I’m trying to sell a Revstar RSS02T because I fell in love with the cheaper RSE20. I thought it would be easy, but I’ve only gotten low-ball offers or, and I’ve gotten lots of offers to trade. I would say the market has softened. I remember people just two years ago for near retail for a guitar they had abused.
The deals are out there IF you can be patient. If you gotta have whatever it is right this second then you pay what you pay…but if you can be patient there are good deals to be had. I just scored a $450 Squier bass (I know go ahead and laugh!) for $329. I’m not even a bass player, I’m a guitar player…but I knew what I wanted and I watched it dropping and bought before it spiked back up.
i went to gc the other day to pick up a mic they had 100 bucks off on. i saw 3 new suhr guitars there on the wall
Ordered my shirt! Thanks!
I’m german and do not use the term “to pull the trigger”, but I suppose it comes from targeting or aiming at a guitar or piece of gear for a long time till finally pulling the trigger to shoot it down.🤷🏻♂️😊
This is just an awesome video.. and I'm not even half way through it.
I like to write on acoustic, and that includes metal. If it sounds good on an acoustic, it will definitely sound good on electric with distortion.
THANX FOR ALL YOU Do PHIL...Hello from Minot North Dakota!
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I bought an SE Standard 22 for $400 in excellent condition and a BOSS Katana 50 for $170 to play in my condo down in Florida. Pleased with both.
Aesthetics played a large part of my recent purchases.
Where? The 2-3 guitars I’ve been looking at, haven’t changed at all!
Glad to see Heritage getting the love they deserve. Still say if you want a 'Gibson' buy a Heritage. If you want a 'Fender' buy a G&L. (even though there are exceptions concerning Fender)
@create306 Can not speak for anyone else, but I think they are pretty nice. Very neutral, well balanced, behaved guitars. I am not shopping for one but it is not because of the guitars but because I like something other than PRS. They are generally really good.
Yup I just got a reverb offer too like $300 of a brand new Ltd eclipse ec1000
'Buy a Suhr and get a Fender T shirt.' Precious.
Can’t wait to see the Heritage video 😮
This is actually happening. I've had my eye on a Vintage II Tele on Sweetwater. They offered a demo for 300 off. I just saw they knocked another 200 off this am
I don’t understand how GutarFetish gets good reviews. Two different people that I play with have ordered the Tele styles guitars and both of them had serious issues and required a lot of work before they were playable. I mean the guitars look great but they both came in with intonation issues, on one of them the bridge pickup did not work and the other one had a lot of string buzz. I think the people who are reviewing these guitars get cherry picked ones that do not represent their average product. I was very curious but after witnessing these two orders I will not be trying my luck with Guitarfetish
I bought a double notch straight edge 79 bucks, 4- 2' jumbo stainless frets, 31 bucks and they thru in a free set of soft jaw pliers. Just over 100 bucks and the notch straight edge was over 100 by itself. Great deal.
Look thru Phill's videos for things your guitar needs...
Love how the video starts stuttering at 1:39:14 just as you say 'this beautiful face' :D
I had just 3 guitars a year ago. Now I ran out of space on my tracked guitar wall hangers. Please don't tell my wife!😅
I was in Huntsville, Alabama for work last week and I bought an Epiphone Slash Les Paul brand new for $499 with no interest for 48 months. That was cheaper than the used ones they had.
I was happy to get the guitar at that price as I had given my Gibson Slash to my oldest son for a house warming present. I have 6 Gibson Les Pauls and 4 Epiphones, the Gibsons are better guitars but the new Epiphones are getting closer.
Also, if possible, check out any potential new electric guitar purchase in a room treated for acoustic guitar playing.
thats a fact set-ups are not easy and im too poor so ive had to learn to work on my own ,from changing out the trem ,and pick-ups to fine cleaning so far the biggest pain in the ass ,changing out the locking nut ! holy crap was that a major "B" !
I haven't noticed the price of guitars going down. High quality handmade guitars are higher than ever.
guess i need to start doing repair work again
is it true Clapton once played the Royal Albert Hall with a Fender Champ on a chair?
Hi Phil. What guitar is that, right behind your head, between the Framus and the Keisel? :)
Phil... Long time subscriber, first time commenter... In your acoustic segment you failed to mention probably one of the best acoustic guitars... (Not just for the money) Yairi! Hand made by the same family in Japan for decades! Better than Martin, as good and maybe better than Taylor. Blows breedlove and PRS out of the water!
Seeing a new core prs in the wild is like seeing a unicorn tbh, you basically just Have rainbow guitars in Tuscan that has them, maybe guitar gallery in Scottsdale
A 96 American standard strat is on my local Craigslist for 850. A 2022 American standard strat is on there for 1200 or 1300. I think only 100 below retail. It’s weird how people are valuing thier new used things. Thinking they are guitar center or something.
at music brokers bill the owner had the idea of cutting the middle man out and ordered 5 containers of acoustic and electric chinese guitars, they showed the guitars at namm in body and necks only no complete guitars we warned him dont do it but he did and we had like 2000 plus guitars stored at the underground basement at 3rd and Thomas at the big pawn shop with the gorilla outside. out of 10 2 were playable with work. we turned so many of the acoustics into slide guitars. if you ever see a guitar branded Gorham its not for scott gorham its Gorham guitars straight from music brokers and central pawn.
Danville Music has a good number of core PRS in stock. I know you (Phil) have bought from them before. Quality store.
One of my favorite stores in my area... Dave, Adam, Cameron, Nathan and the rest over there are awesome... and they often have some really great and unique trade‐ins... oh... and they're a Suhr dealer as well... love that place!
the stuff I liked on Reverb is selling almost the same day. I am buying new stuff too, but yeah, there are deals. I buy a lot of used stuff though, I don't know what it is like for new stuff.
Marshall Combo DLS1CR is a great tube practice amp
Why do single coil-sized humbuckers need a circuit board on the bottom? I though they were just narrow humbuckers. What circuit is in the circuit board?
I only Measure Action for my Taylor Customer’s.😀
Suhr Guitars are awesome
you need one Phil
I have a semi hollow t style with 2 humbuckers its sweet!!!!!
1:53:34 I actually saw someone at Disneyland with a Know Your Gear t-shirt on and I shouted out "Omg Phil McKnight" If I saw you in person I would definitely have shouted in excitement.
Yes on the Z guitar deep dive