Cogongrass ~~Natural vs Chemical Herbicide Solutions

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  • Опубликовано: 4 ноя 2024

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  • @TraumaChaplain
    @TraumaChaplain Год назад +2

    So talking to a local farmer here in Florida and doing some research, this grass likes acidic soils so the recommendation was made to put heavy lime on it and make it alkaline so that it can't grow properly and alkaline soil is not habitable for it and allows other native grasses that tolerate alkaline soil to overtake this grass. Since I have a big field of it it's cost prohibitive.

    • @Swfl_Gardener
      @Swfl_Gardener 10 месяцев назад +2

      I need to try that. It has filled the 100 acres surrounding our property. It is invading our entire pasture. The chickens and the cows/goats keep it contained. I am going to try lime though

    • @TraumaChaplain
      @TraumaChaplain 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@Swfl_Gardener the other thing I heard from an overseas farmer is to use a drag Matt like they use on baseball fields and keep the cogon grass flattened and The Roots will eventually die but then you have to put another fast-growing grass so it doesn't come back. I don't have a tractor or a drag Matt so I'm going to try the lime before.sprimg comes

    • @aurorawalsh9354
      @aurorawalsh9354 9 месяцев назад +3

      I live in Port Charlotte FL. I have alkaline soil, cogon grass does not care. It is running all over on my 3/4 acre lot. I am going to look into renting a pig. Cogon grass cuts the mouth on many animals (cows, goats) I read that hogs love it including the roots.

    • @TraumaChaplain
      @TraumaChaplain 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@aurorawalsh9354 I agree that it will not eliminate cogan grass but it makes the soil more conducive to other varieties that will grow in alkaline soil and compete with it like Bahia...if you can stress the cogon, other species can catch up and overtake. All the best.

  • @bluedragon0262
    @bluedragon0262 6 лет назад +11

    Vinegar and salt makes the chemical compound Hydrochloric acid. The problem with household vinegar is that the acidity level is 5% it is possible to buy vinegar at 20% acid strength or u could boil the vinegar to make it stronger.

    • @learntocrochet1
      @learntocrochet1 6 лет назад

      You are so right, the 5% vinegar just won't kill weeds in my experience. There is stronger vinegar available at feed stores.

    • @1dgrdgr
      @1dgrdgr 6 лет назад

      You have the reaction backwards. Sodium acetate + HCL would give you acetic acid + Na+ + Cl- or salty vinegar if you prefer. Pickles anyone?

  • @maggiereese1053
    @maggiereese1053 6 лет назад +2

    A friend of mine went to a training seminar about working with herbicides. He was told that doubling the dosage when you mix is counter productive. The reason is, the herbicide needs to get to the roots to kill the plant, if you mix it too strong, it kills the leaves too soon before they can send it down to the roots therefore allowing the roots to send up new growth. So, if you try Round Up, first try mixing it exactly according to the package directions then, if that doesn't work, go from there.

  • @okiegrandma1154
    @okiegrandma1154 6 лет назад +12

    Home Depot carries 30% vinegar for weed control...Don't know if you have this store close too you.

  • @jasonoliver7881
    @jasonoliver7881 6 лет назад +3

    Sir, I have already told you how to control it. Dig a trench about 4 - 6 inches deep directly in front of your fence line, this will do two things. 1) Expose the roots, and 2) prevent it from spreading.

    • @aharri381
      @aharri381 4 месяца назад

      I have a patch of it about 35 ft by 35 ft. How would you get rid of this?

    • @jasonoliver7881
      @jasonoliver7881 4 месяца назад +1

      @@aharri381 I had a yard full of winter creeper. I pulled it up by the roots. Took a few weeks, but that was years ago and it's gone now. Even saved a few trees that were completely covered in it. You can even keep the stems and make baskets with it. Lemons -> Lemonade. :)

    • @aharri381
      @aharri381 4 месяца назад

      @@jasonoliver7881 I might invite you over my house to help! Ha, ha! It was 102 today with humidity to feel like 113. Brutal here on this homestead!

  • @heavenscenthomestead4242
    @heavenscenthomestead4242 6 лет назад +3

    I tried your solution and it worked for only about 2 weeks. I have been experimenting with straight rock salt sprinkled on the ground. It needs rain to activate. We use the smaller stuff sold for water softeners. So far I am happy with the results. Don't know how it would work on the cogongrass. Trouble is, nothing else will grow there again. We use it on our fence lines.

    • @yessme1
      @yessme1 6 лет назад

      HeavenScent Homestead pm

  • @clovergreen9959
    @clovergreen9959 6 лет назад +2

    The trick is to exhaust the food in the rhizoms. This can be done over the period of two growing seasons. The solution is both spraying and digging. The vinegar is the way to start. But, use cleaning vinegar at pH 5, and leave out the salt and soap. To drop the pH of the vinegar to 2 pH or 3 pH, add fresh lemon juice. Try the juice of one whole lemon to 1 gallon of cleaning vinegar. After about two days, garden fork the area to pull out roots and weak plants. Then, spray again to saturate the soil and kill off the stray hair roots. Slowly but surely, bit by bit, the problem will go away.

  • @FloridamanForager
    @FloridamanForager 2 года назад +1

    I’m experimenting with vetiver grass and lemon grass as a border along my fences where the Cogon grass is coming through, Vetiver has a much more extensive root system than cogon grass but for the mean time I’m hand digging picking the cogon by the root, using the blades of grass to make rope and baskets and fermenting the roots to kill them and make a usable fertilizer for my trees.

  • @donnalehmann3294
    @donnalehmann3294 6 лет назад +3

    Hi Danny. If your neighbor used roundup and it didn’t work for the cogon grass, the next most powerful thing is to go to The Creator , get still in His presence and let Him impart wisdom about this. ❤️ you both.

  • @SwampRat337
    @SwampRat337 6 лет назад +4

    Be aware Roundup use is creating Super weeds

  • @lemonpop6251
    @lemonpop6251 6 лет назад +2

    Well that unfortunate that round up has to be used, but at least if you can get before it speads to all your property. It's surprising how resilient the grass is.

  • @robertjackson9601
    @robertjackson9601 6 лет назад +1

    Thanks for putting this video toghther. Great usefull information. I brought in some dirt to fill some low spots and cogon came with it. I have been spraying with roundup. You need to keep on it. Its not just one application. Just subscribed and hello from tallahassee

  • @weninger1959
    @weninger1959 6 лет назад

    Good luck on the grass.Saw the storm developing in the Gulf. Be careful.

  • @jawjagrrl
    @jawjagrrl 6 лет назад +1

    I've done this, but with Epsom salt, not table salt, cleaning vinegar ( 6%) You need sunshine and temps in mid 80s and above for best results. I use around the garden to keep grass at bay.

  • @philandbevanthony264
    @philandbevanthony264 6 лет назад +1

    Understanding you may have larger areas...this is what works for. ruclips.net/video/993nkdFshQU/видео.html The vinegar works...but only for about a week, then the weed is back. When we burn it's gone for over a month rain or shine.

  • @sallywasagoodolgal
    @sallywasagoodolgal 6 лет назад +1

    What about sacrificing that FENCE, and hitting that area with your vinegar and salt once or twice a WEEK. Eventually those roots WILL die, because energy is being taken out of them every time they have to re-grow the top. Don't let the top get tall enough to photosynthesize for giving energy back to the root. Just as it pokes out the soil, HIT IT. Again, and again. Also, there is a cleaning vinegar that's a higher %. What you're using is 5%. There's a stronger vinegar.

  • @swordfamily7701
    @swordfamily7701 6 лет назад

    Danny, what we do is take a 5 gallon bucket, water softener salt (crystals seem to work better than pellets, available Lowes, Home Depot, etc.), dish soap, water. Fill bucket up with 4 gallons, pour 1/3 bag of salt in. Let it brine 24-48 hours. If correct, still some salt in the water. Add and wait if needed on salt. Then strain into another bucket if wanted. Add 1/2 cup dish soap and stir. Then we use a sprayer (hence the straining ) and saturate heavily unwanted vegetation. Hasn't failed us on anything yet. Sometimes takes 2-3 days to work fully, but very noticeable evidence of effect within an hour.

  • @albanymountainhomestead
    @albanymountainhomestead 6 лет назад +7

    I'm wondering if you pour instead of spray to saturate the roots...if it would do any good?

    • @georgiagardengirlshomestea1560
      @georgiagardengirlshomestea1560 6 лет назад +2

      Albany Mountain homestead I wonder too

    • @colep4617
      @colep4617 6 лет назад +2

      good idea. I don't know much about cogon grass but it seems like one of those grasses that spreads through its roots. The solution Danny used was meant to kill the grass by burning the leaves and this works on most plants, but not the root grasses. If you burn its leaves it will just grow more of them with minimal effort on its part. Danny, I highly recommend you try an organic root soak to kill the plant where it is strong.

    • @lindakiel9822
      @lindakiel9822 6 лет назад +1

      The root grows to deep into the soil. I don't think he has a choice. I have it also and because I was to stubborn to let my husband spray roundup I now have it thru out my veg. garden and in parts of my pasture! I have pulled as deep down as I could to get the roots and have sifted thru the soil, I laid down heavy landscape fabric and it grew through the fabric. It is has ruined my garden it chokes out the plants I want. I wish now that I would have let him spray cause at least it my not have made it to my garden that I have worked for nearly 30 years building the soil and keeping it organic. Now I have no garden cause unless I want to give up and let it take over the whole property I have to spray. I was hoping Danny had the solution but he is right this is the only way to control it.

  • @rock223031
    @rock223031 Год назад

    If you have cut it near the fence it is absolutely already on your property. The problem with cogongrass is that, its not just the big stands you see. It is all in you your fields that you keep cut or that your animals graze.

  • @AshleyGeil
    @AshleyGeil 6 лет назад

    My brother-in-law, who lives in north Biloxi, ordered a product that you have to go through the state to get. It took several applications, but did the job.

  • @lpugh35
    @lpugh35 6 лет назад +2

    I bought 30% vinegar from Amazon to kill grass here in Southaven, MS.

    • @aharri381
      @aharri381 4 месяца назад

      I was wondering if you have had success with this strength vinegar on Cogon grass?

  • @TexasMyTexas
    @TexasMyTexas 6 лет назад +2

    We used a similar recipe on some grass on our walk way....killed it d e a...dead. 😀😀 I have read where you have to use this formula enough to change the ph of the soil to where you also kill the roots. Good luck!!

  • @xXTheoLinuxXx
    @xXTheoLinuxXx 6 лет назад +3

    Some weeds are hard to kill (it's my job), but there is a natural way to destroy it. It sounds funny but pigs eat anything (even the roots).

  • @georgiagardengirlshomestea1560
    @georgiagardengirlshomestea1560 6 лет назад +3

    Hey Danny did you and Wanda see Art and Ben's video about killing grass and weeds with the flame? "Who knew weeding could be this much fun?"
    Just thought I'd mention it. 😊
    If you need to spray near the animal's fences.

    • @ozlakota1
      @ozlakota1 2 года назад

      cogon grass is highly volatile and fire makes it spread not kills best way is mow it 3 times in a yr other grasses outcompete it heavy grazing fire in autumn if u need very misunderstood grass high;y valuable in drought conditions

  • @TeeFlory
    @TeeFlory 6 лет назад +1

    I'm not sure about cocongrass, we use cleansing vinegar from wallys to clean out an old tank, and killed the weeds and grass where Gary spilled some of it. Might work for you? Love and prayers.

  • @Cherie5353
    @Cherie5353 3 года назад

    I applied for a grant with the county extension office through the Department of Agriculture for chemicals to kill the Cogon grass. I am also in South Mississippi. It has to be applied two weeks before the first frost for it to be the most effective. It also recommended the use of a surfactant to adhere it. I have about 4-6 acres of the Cogon grass to kill. I hope this works. I don’t like the use of chemicals and it has to be applied twice the distance of the tree drip line for hardwoods or it can kill the trees. But, I have no other choice. I hope this works.

  • @littlegoatfeathers690
    @littlegoatfeathers690 6 лет назад +2

    Mr. Danny I was wondering if vegetable oil would work on this stuff or perhaps diesel fuel . Or combination of diesel fuel with the roundup ? And a prayer never hurts either ...

  • @lindasmith6202
    @lindasmith6202 6 лет назад +1

    This is the formula I use for "goatheads" & cheat grass here in Idaho. I pour it on the roots but spraying doesn't work well. Good luck.

  • @joylovingyeshua5861
    @joylovingyeshua5861 6 лет назад +2

    Danny.. From what I've known you didn't use the right fomula.. I would try the strong 20-30% Vinegar 1 GALLON with 1 CUP Epsom salts and 1/2 cup of DAWN
    AND POUR IT ON.. SPRAYING DON'T do it... It must get to the roots.

  • @bethanysworld6789
    @bethanysworld6789 6 лет назад +1

    Gosh. And I can’t even get my corn to sprout.

  • @glenokla2588
    @glenokla2588 6 лет назад

    You gave it your best shot Danny. Hopefully the Roundup will get it killed out soon. I've tried that solution around here before. It'll kill the grass for a couple of weeks but that's all and then it comes back.

  • @reneebrown5598
    @reneebrown5598 6 лет назад

    Try the roundup made for vines and trees. It's stronger and will go in thru the bark as well as leaves. So it should get it. If not burn burn burn.

  • @chasstanford1973
    @chasstanford1973 6 лет назад

    Probably should have tried it the way the formula said to before trying to tweak it....your proportions may or may not work as well...just a bit of advice.I've used this and it works well on my grass and weeds.

  • @kodeman130
    @kodeman130 8 месяцев назад

    Did you or your neighbor finally get rid of the Kon grass? If so, what did you use and how long did it finally take to eradicate it? I am dealing with this on a new property I just bought the whole acre and a half is filled with it, please help. Thank you.

  • @reneep9968
    @reneep9968 6 лет назад +1

    It didn’t kill the cogon but it killed everything else including your fence! You’ve got to do what you’ve got to do!

  • @jennifercarpenter5200
    @jennifercarpenter5200 6 лет назад

    WOW!!! Just crazy 🤯😳😱

  • @timothygunckel7162
    @timothygunckel7162 6 лет назад +2

    Deisel works wonders

  • @TheAAnne123
    @TheAAnne123 6 лет назад +2

    Try “Cleaning Vinegar” it is higher in acidity.

  • @sharonmcmillin5007
    @sharonmcmillin5007 6 лет назад

    Mr. Danny sometimes we just have to do what's best for us and ours and can't worry about what other think or will think. You have tried your best to avoid using round up. Better to use it on a small area fence line than for it to spread to your entire property!! We have nut grass that is driving me nuts!!! I have hand pulled til my hands hurt. It's in my corn patch. Any suggestions how to get rid of it?

  • @ozlakota1
    @ozlakota1 2 года назад

    detergent is a sufficant breaks surface tension on water to allow to adhere to plant

  • @learntocrochet1
    @learntocrochet1 6 лет назад

    Adding more vinegar alone would have undone the salt/vinegar ration, so it was good that Danny used more salt also. You can find stronger acidity vinegar at feed stores. I guess then, you'd have to do the math using the increased percentage vinegar and figuring out how much salt to use.

  • @edieboudreau9637
    @edieboudreau9637 6 лет назад

    Gotta do what you've gotta do.

  • @piahess9738
    @piahess9738 6 лет назад

    Good luck getting rid of this invasive grass.Turpentine would do it poured deep in the roots.Be well you two,and your critters.♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡........

  • @schomestead2591
    @schomestead2591 6 лет назад

    Try crossbow. Maybe cogongrass is woody and it will work. Worth a try!

  • @aurorawalsh9354
    @aurorawalsh9354 9 месяцев назад

    I live in Port Charlotte FL. I have alkaline soil, cogon grass does not care. It is running all over on my 3/4 acre lot. I am going to look into renting a pig. Cogon grass cuts the mouth on many animals (cows, goats) I read that hogs love it including the roots. I posted this below as a response to another's comment.

    • @vanessahill5332
      @vanessahill5332 9 месяцев назад

      How did that work out with the hog?

  • @steveplatt1
    @steveplatt1 6 лет назад +2

    I hate that. Round up don’t kill it. Plus round up is so bad.

  • @docslinux2
    @docslinux2 6 лет назад

    It always worked for me, but I put a 1/4 cup of Dawn per gallon of vinegar, you just have to spray more often but better for your ground

  • @leaholifield8052
    @leaholifield8052 6 лет назад

    Invasive species are a real problem that in many cases, could have been avoided. Just look what bringing in kudzu and popcorn trees have done. I gave been fighting popcorn trres in my yard for years. They just keep coming up! The previous residents, here on my place, planted three popcorn trees. Even though they were cut down over three years ago, the saplings are constantly coming up from old seed, apparatnly, as I've killed the stumps already. Any suggestions for stopping popcorn tree seed?

  • @cynthiaatlegacyhomestead5422
    @cynthiaatlegacyhomestead5422 6 лет назад +3

    have you tried a few controlled applications with a handheld propane flamethrower to see if you can burn it out, but of course that would depend on how dry your season is right now, don't want to startle Smokey the bear with a forest fire..lol

    • @georgiagardengirlshomestea1560
      @georgiagardengirlshomestea1560 6 лет назад +1

      Cynthia P at Legacy Homestead I concur!😊

    • @jaxwade-reed6139
      @jaxwade-reed6139 6 лет назад +1

      Cogon grass should not be burned. It acts like lighter fluid.

    • @DeepSouthHomestead
      @DeepSouthHomestead  6 лет назад +1

      Rule no. one with cogon grass is never burn it it burns over 800 deg up to 3 ft above the ground. Plus it fertilizes the root system. Thanks

  • @marilyn4888
    @marilyn4888 6 лет назад

    You can use vegetable oil instead os dawn as a binding agent.....won’t suds up

  • @brendacollins9272
    @brendacollins9272 6 лет назад

    Ya gotta do what gotta do. Good luck

  • @jeremyblalack
    @jeremyblalack 6 лет назад

    add AMS to your mixture of glyphosate.

  • @JW-es5un
    @JW-es5un 6 лет назад +1

    I think you must attack the roots.. That will be the only way to kill or destroy that grass.

  • @zaviahopethomas-woundedsou9848
    @zaviahopethomas-woundedsou9848 6 лет назад

    You need a flame weeder, it will burn it and the roots if you do more than wilting the cogon grass.

  • @jerryprewett5294
    @jerryprewett5294 6 лет назад

    I wonder if you could cook it w/nitrogen ? Cover with fresh chicken manure and see?

  • @poodledaddles1091
    @poodledaddles1091 6 лет назад

    interesting

  • @sweetiepie7840
    @sweetiepie7840 6 лет назад

    Pickle it good Danny!!!😂

  • @TheWoodHaven
    @TheWoodHaven 6 лет назад

    Go with straight salt. Salt the hell out of it. Extremely high concentrate of salt and water.

  • @ontariohomestead7135
    @ontariohomestead7135 6 лет назад +1

    Boiling water and or vinegar Danny

  • @Jonathan-tr9tx
    @Jonathan-tr9tx 6 лет назад

    can you burn it? also I wonder if you mess with the soil pH, Really high with lime or low with sulfur. would that kill it.

    • @Swfl_Gardener
      @Swfl_Gardener 10 месяцев назад

      Cogon has an oil in it that makes it it’s own herbicide and extremely flammable. Just driving on it has set it on fire and it is hard to put out.

  • @christiebetts4970
    @christiebetts4970 6 лет назад

    I wonder if there are any long term effects of the vinegar and salt on the soil?

    • @DeepSouthHomestead
      @DeepSouthHomestead  6 лет назад +1

      Christie Betts If enough salt is put out nothing will ever grow there again. Thanks

  • @KathleenBunn
    @KathleenBunn 6 лет назад

    Your fight with Cogongrass sounds like my fight with wisteria. I have burnt it, dug it, poured unconcentrated roundup on it, and it just does not go anywhere.

    • @PlanePreacher
      @PlanePreacher 6 лет назад +1

      BunnVoyage Here in SE Colorado, my bane is Bindweed! I feel your pains!

  • @eaglecamphomesteadswfl9006
    @eaglecamphomesteadswfl9006 6 лет назад

    Hopefully this tropical low won't wash it away before it gets a chance to work

  • @littlegoatfeathers690
    @littlegoatfeathers690 6 лет назад

    Would hogs root and clear this stuff out ?

  • @anashomestead5919
    @anashomestead5919 6 лет назад

    Can't you just dig up what you can of it, then apply Salt?

    • @anashomestead5919
      @anashomestead5919 6 лет назад

      Since it is a fence row, it shouldn't matter if nothing grows.. & then I saw the video addition of salt.. lol Sorry... I jumped the gun on that by not totally watching the first minute of the video. Just was applying my own common sense.

  • @ontariohomestead7135
    @ontariohomestead7135 6 лет назад

    The extra vinegar will help alonr

  • @AngiesPantry58
    @AngiesPantry58 6 лет назад

    Darn I was hoping that would work for ya.. :"(

  • @shalomtoday
    @shalomtoday 8 месяцев назад

    Plant calopo

  • @SpayNeut.Always
    @SpayNeut.Always Год назад

    roundup is worse than any weed. it is also the reason for these super weeds.

  • @finallyfiguringoutlife9177
    @finallyfiguringoutlife9177 6 лет назад +1

    I have a stupid question not related to this topic. I live near Danny and Wanda where it's hot. I purchased eggs yesterday and accidentally left them in the car overnight. Are they still good to eat? I trust y'all's judgement more than google.

    • @124bucket
      @124bucket 6 лет назад +3

      should be good,to test place in a bowl of water the ones that float are bad,

    • @jawjagrrl
      @jawjagrrl 6 лет назад +2

      Store eggs have been washed and removed of the protective layer fresh eggs have, which can be stored at room temperature. I'd float first before eating to see.

    • @lindakiel9822
      @lindakiel9822 6 лет назад

      If you have fertile eggs maybe not I left unwashed eggs on the counter above the dish washer for a couple of days and when I went to use them they started to form the chick. I collect my eggs twice a day so it was not from a broody hen.

    • @finallyfiguringoutlife9177
      @finallyfiguringoutlife9177 6 лет назад

      Thanks y'all. I'll float them to test them. I'm mad because I don't live near a grocery store and don't waste food.

    • @sallywasagoodolgal
      @sallywasagoodolgal 6 лет назад

      They'll be just fine.

  • @chrisj296
    @chrisj296 6 лет назад

    That's sad that this is what it has to come too :(

  • @adriennepyle7625
    @adriennepyle7625 6 лет назад +1

    Youre just gonna have to get in there and hand pull it. My entire backyard is taken over by bermuda grass. It came from my neighbors yard. It grows along tuber like shoots and will regrow from a one inch piece of root that got left in the ground by accident. It is the bane of my existence. My arch nemesis 😬 seriously. I have to hand dig like a foot into the soil and then grab hold of it and rip and dig more and finally you come up with a trail of 3 and 4 foot long runners. I hand weed everything. But ive been planning on making this spray for a few months. I'm gonna see if it'll work on the Bermuda grass from the bowels of hell.

    • @amandaforeman703
      @amandaforeman703 6 лет назад

      Adrienne Pyle I understand! My front yard is filled with the stuff! 😡😡😡 Bermuda grass is awful!!!!!

  • @maranda3764
    @maranda3764 6 лет назад

    :)