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- Опубликовано: 24 май 2024
- Kenyon Martin of the Gil's Arena crew has high praise for the Dallas Mavericks Rookie Dereck Lively II. He sees a lot of himself in the young NBA Star, who just needs to hit the weight room and develop a bit as a player. When Kenyon Martin was 19 he was immature and didn't know the game very well. But he developed into and NBA Superstar and now he thinks Dereck Lively can do the same for the Mavericks. Catch this and more NBA rookie takes on Gil's Arena every week.
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Kenyon at 19-25 was a PROBLEM
Nah! He was a role player. Only reason he wasn’t a bust is because everyone else in his draft class was trash
@@therealjayz8036You hating 😂
Facts
@@therealjayz8036 He was a good player, but I agree, Kenyon scored 16ppg and it was only because he played with JKidd.
What's up with internet overhyping all retired players?
@@AM-dl7othe did more than just score 16 ppg a game. The point guard doing his job got him the ball 😂. The dude played hella defense, provided energy and finished explosively. Those wars with Detroit were epic, stop the 🧢.
That's saying a lot coming from Kenyan salute to the young kid if Kenyan is looking at you ! !
Kenyan was a beast bro. And your right, for him to say that is a salute
He was okay but never went to practice . Which is why his game never really developed after his one all star appearance
Kenyon, not Kenyan (someone from Kenya 🇰🇪). It’s -ON, not -AN. Spell his name right or stop commenting like you KNOW. Know what else “SAYS A LOT”? ATTENTION TO DETAIL. Knowing basic names. And Lively’s first name is spelled DERECK. For the majority, making that common mistake
@@PetrodollarDealEndedSoWakeUpi thought he comes from Kenya for a minute.
Calling out grammatical errors in the comments section must be exhausting.
People forget Nowitzki and Chandler are coaching this kid up.
Dirk ain’t coaching lively idiot
Chandler Tyson? What he coaching? How to average 10 rebounds & zero points?
Stop lying. It's only Tyson. Dirk chills and be at Mavs games but he is not around the building. Not in a bad way, but he doesn't coach.
Tyson chandler is exactly who we want lively to be. Lob threat and top level rim protection@@xDaPrincex
@@xDaPrincexrebounds and lobs lol which is Lively game
Tyson Chandler mentors him. It’s phenomenal.
I’ve always said Derek reminds me of young Tyson when he was in NOLA with CP
Best decision to rotate Lively and Gafford. They are both showing up big time for the Mavs in this series. I’m very impressed at Lively’s level of confidence at his age.
Yeah i often forget he is a rookie
He's gonna get bigger and better---> GO MAVS!
Nah Kmart... Nah.. you being humble.. you was a monster coming out of natty.. a force
K mart was 22 coming come from cincy. K mart at 19 is light years away from who he was being the #1 pick when he came out.
He came in the league at 22 tho
Facts!
No Cap he wasn't super skilled but he was a monster
He was mid
I been saying dude got drafted to the right team whole year cause his role is perfect for them
And his fire to win matches Luka, they are a great fit
Respect to Kenyon for showing the younger player support hopefully he stays healthy and hungry
I love how he finishes under the rim. I like bigs who use their size. Especially when they dunk the ball and lift their legs or like cock the ball back and slam it with aggression. Most bigs do those little soft drop in dunks. I understand its to preserve energy but i still think that a big that finishes with aggression makes the defense think twice about contesting. Like how shaq, Dwight, kmart, Stoudemire would finish.
Pause
@@amanveer6461 naw lil bro you just sussy
Dallas blood smells Dallas Talent
That’s the first time I’ve heard Kenyon say that about anyone in the league
Nbs tho... Me too
Facts!!!!!!
True
Ooooo if Derek lively got a kmartin game omg that would be crazy for the Mavs. That would be the third star they need
He could be but even as a 4th option after p.j when he is hot and switch it from whoever playing best and even have tim Hardaway also so they have talent and could probably win this year if they get pass the wolves
@@lokstatre2738Nah THJ is done!.. jayden hardy is the truth, he is taking over THJ spot... Hardy with no real playtime on the regular season and vs clippers and okc, has come up BIG TIME vs the wolves, the kid has no fear and he can HOOP...
I do hope omax develops to a decent backup 3 or 4, next season! I also hope Green levels up his confidence aswell, same for exum(he has gone ghost on this playoffs).
And Mavericks will have a a great young core for years to come!
@@lokstatre2738Bro hardaway is terrible hes not even in the rotation anymore
@astashasta1 yea I seen something bout him not being happy I guess with whatever has happened lately so that sucks and guess he could be moved in the off season..but so far seem like they don't need em 😅
@@lokstatre2738 Iv been a die hard mavs fan for years hes f'kn terrible. HUGE defensive liability and the only offense he gives you is being a very mediocre streaky 3pt shooter who will take tough contested shots with lots of time on the shot clock or turn it over if the ball touches his hands. His stats do not tell the whole story.
Like his 3pt percentage (35%) he can catch fire and win you games a third of the time but the other 2/3s hes losing you a game because everything else he does is embarrassingly bad
K was nasty i started following him in college before the injury that dude was THE DOG.
He got hurt his last year in college. Right before the tournament started. He was 22
If lively sees this... Minnesota is in trouble
Minnesota is already in trouble with Lively and Gafford wym 😂
Minnesota is done 😂😂
I think Minnesota saw this and assassinated Lively😂
3-0 they were in trouble the minute Ant opened his mouth they were celebrating like they won the chip thought Dallas was going to be easy now bring out the brooms
They're already up to the neck in it
If Kenyon sees himself in lively… the Mavs are about to be a PROBLEM
That Michigan Boy is BALLIN'. J Kidd has seen this guy before.
To get admired by the OGs always feels great.
I also think Aaron Gordon reminds me of a more athletic version of Kenyon Martin with better handles. Gordon is kind of a mix of Martin and Blake Griffin.
AG reminds me more of Antonio Mcdyess before his injury
AG is NOT Blake griffin
@krazykrazy8513 Yes, I know. I said Gordon kind of reminds me of Griffin. He is not as good as prime Griffin. I thought Gordon had the potential to be an all-star. He would show glimpses, but he was never consistent. He had 29 and 15 against the Lakers one game. The next game, he had 7 and 3.
@@RonnieM90 oh yeah youre right I think he is a little overrated just because hes a bigger name id take jalen duren over him anyday
@krazykrazy8513 They are two different players. Duren is a C. Gordon is a PF/SF. Duren is 20. Gordon has the potential to be an all-star. We will see if he can reach his full potential.
Idk.. Gafford plays a lot like him more. Lively is more of a Tyson Chandler
Damn that’s spot on, same similar build and all
@@rayrichard4665 Yeah, not just that, their entire roster is really one of the best I've seen from a GM stand point. It's not just about getting stars or what, they picked the most financial friendly at the same time the lowkey diamonds in the rough and players that compliment Luka the most. It's a combination of the 2016 Cavs that came back from 3-1 and Harden's 2018-2019 Rockets where he liked to Iso ball and pick and roll with the big, if the pick and roll is shut, then passes to the perimeter. Mark Cuban is also nostalgic about his championship roster that's why he's been getting players similar to that team. He took lively because of Tyson Chandler's importance during 2011. As nostalgia goes, he's only missing a 6th man, like a barea or a jason terry.
@@johnpaulgonzalez9016 I totally agree with you, that’s probably one of the main issues with a lot of these NBA teams they focus so much on one or two players and think they can fill in spots, excellent point.
@@rayrichard4665 they keep emulating the old heatles. Look its great on paper but tht team only won 2 times. I wish teams with stick more to their own culture rather than copy what the other teams do. Im glad dallas found their niche, a perimeter centric adaptable team that plays high intensity defense.
@@johnpaulgonzalez9016 absolutely, they look great right now and the entire roster plays great together
I think Derek Lively reminds Kenyon of him at 19
Hope the best for this young man!
You've got a knack for this, loving your content!
I think that's a pretty good assessment KM 👍
KMart being humble. This aint close.
its not a competition
K mart just said it was. So your opinion is irrelevant
Yeah u right lively way better than this man
per 36 lively getting 12 rpg in the playoffs only below jokic ad and bobby portis as a rookie, hes 5th in plus minus only after tatum gobert jrue and horford at 19 years old man, hes gonna be generational
Exactly. Lively is way better than Kenyon was at 19. Lively is a starting center on a team 2 games away from the nba finals. Kenyon Martin was a freshman in college
A lot of people are just saying Tyson Chandler because they didn't see Kenyon Martin when he was with the Nets and Young
A lot of people are saying Tyson cause that’s what role he’s playing in our team and that’s who’s been mentoring him
@@zacharythomas1802 agree with both ...I see it ...lively will be better than chandler and chandler was a beast also but j kidd got lively moving like the big man he can lob to ..Kenyon Martin was definitely a front runner
What's great about D Live is you can still he still has lots of room for improvement. Not only phisically but also skill set wise.
He's been learning to punish the short pick and roll by picking the correct pass at each moment. Great quality for a big
K Mart. The real deal.
He got Tyson Chandler developing him as well as a coach that’s was the 🐐 at throwing alley-oops… match made in heaven!
Big up to OG kenyon. Absolutely! No fear, and wants to win. Great pickup by the mavs. If, they go to the finals he will be the X FACTOR. Especially if porzingawd comes back for Boston. Lively will determine the NBA finals. #watchthisageverywell #ceedavision
Also overrated. Just ask the Nuggets, smh....
@@hmrhuang coach karl was overrated😂 horrible fit. the nugget had no chance against that laker team. You want to know why? because phil had a system. ya'll quick to blame the players but don't look at the coaches and management side of things.
@@Cee-da-vision don't act as if the players aren't responsible for their play either! Just because one can easily fire a coach vs. a player doesn't mean the players don't bear any responsibility for their follies!
@@hmrhuang never said they aren’t. They’re the one playing the game lol. But for you to say he’s overrated because he didn’t deliver in Denver is crazy. They made it further than any denver squad of the past.
@@Cee-da-vision If you're suggesting that Martin was the reason for that past success, I'd strongly disagree with you! It was Billups, NOT Martin, who was key!
Lively one my favorites his energy and passion is unmatched. And the story with his mom how can you not like him
He blind as bat, he's more like Tyson Chandler 2.0
this man was an absolute animal at Cincinnati so that’s some seriously high praise he giving Lively
That's Tyson Chandler 2.0
A lil more refined
A lil more stronger
Possibly an higher ceiling
And next yr he'll probably be Tyson Chandler with a 3 ball
I love that Kmart has found somebody that kinda resembles his early game. Kmart was a force out there.
Lively is listed at 7'1". Kenyon Martin was listed at 6'9". I think Lively reminds me more of Tyson Chandler. Chandler was listed at 7'1. I think Gafford reminds me more of Martin. Gafford is listed at 6'10". Gafford seems to try to dunk and block everything. He had 5 blocks in game 2.
You talking logistics Martin talking the game it’s a difference bro you comparing their builds and make ups I don’t think livley plays like chandler not even a little bit
Nah I see more k-mart in lively forsure
@howardpopeiii8662 Yes, but they play 2 different positions, too. Lively is a C, and Kenyon was a PF. Lively is 7'1", and Kenyon is 6'9". That height will help Lively to block more shots. Look at Rudy Gobert. He would not be able to block as many shots if he was 6'9". Besides Ben Wallace, most great shot blockers are taller than 6'9".
@@howardpopeiii8662 Gafford tries to dunk everything. Gafford set a record of 33 consecutive made field goals, second all-time to Wilt Chamberlain's record of 35. He finished the 2023-2024 season as the NBA field goal percentage leader, with a percentage of 72.5%.
Look up 2 inches bro . . . That’s literally the difference in height. . . It looks good on paper but arm length is more important than height even tho both are irrelevant to Martin take . . . I watched lively come into duke before the injury number 1 player in the nation he definitely has a similar style of play to Martin he just doesn’t have the muscle yet to move defenders how Martin came into the league
Kenyon wayyyyyyyyy to nice ... Kenyon was a absolute problem early 2000's
So is lively......
He was, but kenyon is going off the game today. The league is softer and he understands that. That’s showing you kenyon overstanding of the game. Lively is going to be a great big in the league if he continues to play this hard. (Mind you, his mother passing away has been a big motivation definitely pushing him)
He said @ 19
He's giving Lively a lot of credit
That’s a huge compliment young fella. Keep ballin
Naaaw dude is tyson chandler 2.0
It was a nuanced observation.
Naw My guy U hit that nail directly on the head
You kno kmart and Tyson have similarities also
Not even close. Tyson could guard down in size and open space. He was a dog day 1 on defense
I'm glad Lively wasn't seriously injured . That rookie was tearing it up get all the rest he needs
I remember kenyon at Cincinnati. That man could block shots with his head like a soccer player
He’s talking before his injury at Cinci. K Mart was an amazing player.
Kenyon giving out flowers being humble….if yall don’t know Kmart was a monster at the 4 spot
And KMart was at school for a few years. And Lively is at least in the nba at this age so that’s a hell of a compliment
Agreed Lively my mf dawg too 🤝
That hair line tho going down the court 😂
That's a huge compliment for Lively ... K Mart was a BEAST 💪🏿
Tha kids will be good and humble Young man
Lively plays possessed. You can see it in his eyes at times
Kenyon, jefferson, kid and VC15 in NJ NETS.🔥. showwtiimmee!!!
Lively and pj Washington were great pickups. Kidd is a good coach as well. Kyrie and Luka is just insane. They’re my picks to win it all. Something about Boston is off to me…
J kidd hire KMart skills coach
Tyson Chandler been coaching him all year😂
Kenyon aging like wine! 🍷😍
K MART A DALLAS LEGEND ! Come mentor D Live ! You and Tyson gone have that Boy HOOPIN
Thanks for providing this perspective. Lively is a good player, but his future is brighter.
LIVELY IS DEFINITELY LIKE A TOUNG KENYON. That boy niceee
Kmart is more similar to gafford
How are you going to tell Kmart who he's more like. 🤣😂
@@jboogie45213 like wtf 😂😂😂😂😂
@@KpDeezly 😂🤣 The Internet has truly damaged humanity bruv
@@jboogie45213 I'm stating my opinion. I didn't disagree with Kmart .. this internet shit is weird fr go outside and touch some grass
This is the same thing I thought. Gafford is 6'10", and Lively is 7'1". Martin was 6'9". Gafford tries to dunk and block everything. He had 5 blocks in game 2.
Dont watch many mavs game from where im from but if lively is getting love from kmart and saying he sees his game in em is dope and only says how high his potential can be cause k.mart was a beast before the injuries and him playing thru em and not healing right so dallas has a great team for the future and will be scary for sure
If Lively can get that jump shot and post game like K-Mart, it’s over.
🤣 I thought you said lively was just Kidd son 🤣
Kenyon was a beast defensively like Rodman but with a very polished offensive game
Lively is wayyy more mature at 19/20 tho
Nobody played aggressive like Kmart
Lively is a good decision maker on that short roll. Watch him shoot corner 3s next season. He’s got a good stroke.
Crazy thing K-Mart was part of the small ball centers when the East was all nets for a couple seasons. Live is much taller and raw.
If Lively get any kind of jumper it's gonna be scary
That New Jersey team with Kidd, Kenyon, Jefferson, Kittles was My team. Killed the East in the playoffs.
I just saw that Tyson Chandler has been Lively's mentor all season. He's got a great future ahead of him.
KMartin sees himself in DLive! Mentor waiting in the wings, man!
Is dunking game is out of control best on the team he makes Kyries alleyoops look phenomenal
And this was said months ago, respect
That says ALOT
He should lock in wit Kenyon he’d give him jewels he need
Big compliment there. :-)
The workers of iniquities dog. 😂😂😂
The smartest thing we did was get Tyson to mentor him
They’re molding him to be like Tyson Chandler
i said when the mavs drafted lively he would be a game changer for them. he reminded me of tyson chandler instantly. the wolves were built to beat the nuggets while the mavs were built to win the chip.. ima ant edwards fan btw but every young star has to get knocked down a few pegs in order to reach there full potential
That watch ⌚⌚
k mart was aggressive asf he had to double back when he agreed liveley was as aggressive lol
Lively moves like Tyson Chandler, and Gafford moves like Caron Butler. PJ is like a beta version yet of Shawn Marion, and Luka is like a small Dirk, Kyrie plays maturely like kid but + the offense of Terry, then they’ve got DJJ who plays hustles like Barea.
They pretty much built this team like the 2011 Mavs Champ team. Built the defense towards their already existing offense juggernauts.
This is high praise from Kenyon.
That says a lot especially sure I've never seen him say anything like that about his actual son who carries his name in the league
He’s definitely a Tyson chandler/Kmart mix
Give Tyson Chandler some credit for working with him
Derek better get in the lab with KMart 😮
Yeah lively my dude too
Damn! The Hawks are always coming up short. They had a shot to trade for this young man but they did not want to take two years of David Bertans contract. This draft they have a chance to draft a similar players Lively, but they will muck it up, again.
I agree you know what i know exactly what he saw nah he has that edge really
He needs to get mid range shot , some muscle and free throw up%
Lively also reminds me of Tyson Chandler.
Good for the kid ... Kmart Certified!
Chimney said it best and I’ve been saying it . This wolves team had a great chance to win, but terrible terrible coaching. NAZ needs to start ! Period
Huge compliment for that youngster. But let’s be honest here K Mart. 😂 Not even his tendencies are close to what you had at that age bro. K Mart at that age was trying to rip off them hoops in college. In the league he was trying to rip them off and make his opponents eat the dam thing.😂🤦🏽♂️💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
Lopshow bob 🔥🔥
I can see it too
❤❤❤JESUS BLESS THEM BOTH ❤❤❤
After 3 years of experience in the league, Lively may be the third star of the Mavs
Martin was right 3-0 after game 3
Just tell us bro😂😂😂
Who his mom?
ik u being funny gng but thats kinda fucked u cause his ma just passed
I agree Key