Lawyers differ over merits of Johor’s claim to ‘federal partner’ status

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  • Опубликовано: 19 июн 2024
  • Philip Koh says Johor’s history as an independent state is ‘unique’, but Haniff Khatri Abdulla says its claim has no constitutional validity.
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Комментарии • 100

  • @Model3GenerativeANdroid
    @Model3GenerativeANdroid 25 дней назад +19

    If the MacMichael Agreement still stands, do you think that the present ruler could afford to buy a Bugatti?

    • @user-dj1hm4cf9z
      @user-dj1hm4cf9z 25 дней назад

      yes ,and can buy more.johore is stupid join malaysia

    • @sfaiz3780
      @sfaiz3780 24 дня назад +3

      They are proud to be colonized

    • @Hs5687
      @Hs5687 20 дней назад +1

      RM rdy Under Control & Weaponised… Behave or Else … Your Friendly Neighbour 😊

  • @Model3GenerativeANdroid
    @Model3GenerativeANdroid 25 дней назад +14

    wow banyak Bugatti boleh bawa masuk Liang Lahat sekali nanti.

  • @leongweiseng2211
    @leongweiseng2211 24 дня назад +4

    Ni lah dipanggil Cubaan...nafsu masuk ego akan ikut!...lepas tu salahkan orang lain terhadap kesalahan yang telah dibuat, Sedih!....United we stand divided we fall!,...Selamatkan Malaysia kesayangan kita dari nafsu dan ego!!

  • @cac1504
    @cac1504 24 дня назад +7

    Johor was duped by Stamford Raffles into selling Singapore. The pain is still felt today?

    • @Hs5687
      @Hs5687 23 дня назад

      Seller’s Remorse 😂? … Must be more Painful considering MY Kicked SG out in 65 😂😂

    • @francisboulangere7628
      @francisboulangere7628 23 дня назад

      British East Indian Company?

  • @irishque
    @irishque 24 дня назад +5

    This argument will lead to better lives of johor ppl??NOT!

    • @tiries3471
      @tiries3471 23 дня назад +2

      Tmj want billions to buy bugati or messi

  • @mustapamohdsaid5813
    @mustapamohdsaid5813 24 дня назад +7

    Seeloknya janganlah buka pekung di dada sendiri, dan janganlah meludah ke langit.
    Jangan ingat rakyat tak tahukan sejarah dan apa-apa yang telah berlaku pada Tanah Melayu, khasnya bagi negeri Johor sendiri, di bawah kuasa British dulu.
    Sejarah asal-usul Kesultanan negeri-negeri pun rakyat tahu sebenarnya, cuma terpaksa berdiam diri, maklumlah bagaimana kuat pun 'timun' takkan mampu melawan 'durian'.

    • @johariabas3195
      @johariabas3195 24 дня назад +3

      Betoi sangat bro. Itu pun depa tak sedar2 jugak.

    • @tiries3471
      @tiries3471 23 дня назад +1

      @@johariabas3195 dia ingat org tka tahu dia temengong bengong

  • @user-hq3fg1wb4q
    @user-hq3fg1wb4q 25 дней назад +10

    Mahathir spit here and there and we fight against each other for his nonsense and lie,

    • @Model3GenerativeANdroid
      @Model3GenerativeANdroid 25 дней назад +9

      why bring Tun M into these matters?
      Tun M relinquished his PM chair in 2003?
      what is pmx busy doing currently?
      can't pmx as the current PM of Malaysia be answerable for everything in Malaysia?

    • @havocx4953
      @havocx4953 25 дней назад

      Stupid netizen bring up Mahathir name into comment show that his IQ is like katak bawah tempurung.Baru keluar gua ke?

    • @tak6455
      @tak6455 25 дней назад +8

      That PH bot..no need to react..for them anything wrong in this gov are because of Tun..

    • @kamaruddin9172
      @kamaruddin9172 25 дней назад +2

      All previous PM communicate well with Johor, Sabah & Sarawak in matters related to Anglo Johor Treaty 1885 & MA63 for Sabah & Sarawak. Some said that Anglo Johor Treaty 1885 is no longer valid but Tun M failure to dissolve JMF (one of the clause in the treaty) is proof that the treaty is still valid. Anglo Johor Treaty 1885 is official recognition by Queen Victoria/Empire of Great Britain that Johor is a free & sovereign state. MA63 is clearly have a different set of condition, Sabah & Sarawak are partners of Malaya not one of the state in Malaysia. I'm no expert in federal consti but it quite clear that this 3 states are different. While together with other malay state that sought independence by forming federation of malaya 1948, the status of Johor at that time was already free & sovereign.

    • @francisboulangere7628
      @francisboulangere7628 24 дня назад

      There's a very significant facts behind. Don't simply diss.

  • @anuarismail8070
    @anuarismail8070 23 дня назад +2

    Semuga kita menjadi Khalifah Allah..bukan Khalifah nafsu....

  • @edwardv7991
    @edwardv7991 25 дней назад +16

    Just join SG la. SG need land and Johorean wants SGD 😂😂😂

    • @Hs5687
      @Hs5687 25 дней назад

      Yes , SG has a Very Effective & Efficient PAP Government to suit all Circumstances . Unbeknownst to many , SG has not only Redefined Race but also Changed DNA of Living Indian to Malay in Run up to the Scandalous 2017 Uncontested Presidential Elections… Moreover SG rdy Controls RM … So SG is a Natural Choice 😊

    • @Hs5687
      @Hs5687 25 дней назад

      Yes , SG has a Very Effective & Efficient PAP Government . Very Flexible also to suit all Circumstances . Unbeknownst to many , SG has not only Redefined Race but also Changed DNA of Living Indian to Malay in Run up to the Scandalous 2017 Uncontested Presidential Elections… Moreover SG rdy Controls RM … So SG is a Natural Choice 😊

    • @francisboulangere7628
      @francisboulangere7628 24 дня назад +2

      Then why waste building bridges and causeway links? Might as well land filled and reclaim the whole Tebrau straits. You'll have a bigger land mass. It very near. 1km++ between Woodlands & Pantai Lido. 🤔🤔🤔

    • @phillip244
      @phillip244 24 дня назад

      Johore needs S'pore's Peter Lee.

    • @tiries3471
      @tiries3471 24 дня назад +2

      @@francisboulangere7628 Siangapore belongs to Malaysia. Its a maaly island belong to Johor Malay Sultanate.

  • @Model3GenerativeANdroid
    @Model3GenerativeANdroid 25 дней назад +16

    Just sell Johor to Singapore.
    Win Win situation to all parties.

    • @Model3GenerativeANdroid
      @Model3GenerativeANdroid 25 дней назад

      no need to sell MAHB to BlackRock

    • @mtgam5
      @mtgam5 24 дня назад +2

      Becareful with this kind of statement

    • @jamestan8266
      @jamestan8266 24 дня назад +2

      @@mtgam5 if you are too worried, just read.

    • @Hs5687
      @Hs5687 24 дня назад +3

      Buy something You already CONTROL ? 😊

    • @nadaiduit
      @nadaiduit 24 дня назад

      The majority poors wont even ask where black money or rock come from when they receive it.

  • @Talk3Talk4Only
    @Talk3Talk4Only 25 дней назад +5

    sorry to say, Johor joins Malaya with scam agreement even John is independent nation in history, unless you dissolve federation of Malaysia first, then sign new agreement or leave for independence

  • @Hs5687
    @Hs5687 25 дней назад +3

    As usual SINGAPORE will decide … Johore only needs to sit Pretty 😊

  • @Model3GenerativeANdroid
    @Model3GenerativeANdroid 25 дней назад +11

    Sell Johor to Singapore for 1 trillion dollars

    • @Hs5687
      @Hs5687 25 дней назад

      SG rdy CONTROLS RM , Why insult when Can Cooperate ? 😊

    • @Model3GenerativeANdroid
      @Model3GenerativeANdroid 25 дней назад +2

      @@Hs5687 who's insulting?
      I was merely suggesting for Malaysia to sell Johor to Singapore for 1 trillion dollars.
      Bangsa Johor will be happy & Malaysians will have their rightly deserved subsidies.
      Everybody will be happy.

    • @kamaruddin9172
      @kamaruddin9172 24 дня назад

      U can't sell what u don't own, land & water belong to the states, not just Johor but all states in Malaysia, if u own a house or land look at the land title, it is not issued by Malaysia, TMJ was right Malaysia do not own Johor.

  • @saranraj1085
    @saranraj1085 24 дня назад +4

    Keluar Malaysia

  • @cklee804
    @cklee804 24 дня назад +2

    To sign as a party to the document to come together does not reduce the status of the party signing ...as a separate entity signing with the group ..
    Is this not the position of Sabah and Sarawak agreeing to be together..each signing as a separate entity but to come together...
    So the desire to be together but at the same time to be different is something where all can agree to feel happy and all having the best benefits.
    Well..as the raayat becomes more educated and aware they too wants its interest be safeguarded and realised.
    Right on ..right on ...let the views of all be explored and be understood

    • @tiries3471
      @tiries3471 24 дня назад

      There was are many reason why the europeans revolted against their King and feudalism. Let them eat cake while driving a bugatti is one of them. Britain, French killed their kings while Russia blew them up.

    • @KrishnanKrishnan-yg8pt
      @KrishnanKrishnan-yg8pt 23 дня назад

      These happens because of misunderstanding between the rulers as well as the political leadership!Consequently an amicable situation should be created to solve airing problems!

  • @zulzuli3603
    @zulzuli3603 23 дня назад +1

    So, HK wants Johor as equal partners with the Federal Gov't? Anything else? You wanted to claim Putrajaya then? Johor are now 'kaduk naik junjung'...what else is new from them?

  • @al-paciyes5722
    @al-paciyes5722 24 дня назад +2

    Let Johor leave. See if it can survive without oil money from sabah sarawak & Terengganu.

    • @shalimarsulaiman7557
      @shalimarsulaiman7557 23 дня назад

      If not mistaken, Johore do have oil rigs too

    • @zulzuli3603
      @zulzuli3603 23 дня назад

      ​@@shalimarsulaiman7557where is it actually?

  • @kamsolsaid8361
    @kamsolsaid8361 25 дней назад

    Hmmm. Tok too much or rait too much kontrari to the key player then kena masuk lokap. I rizab komen.

  • @chooboonsan67
    @chooboonsan67 24 дня назад +3

    Johore was persuaded to join Malaya. But it gains a lot as to Selangor. The oil money Malaysia got was pumped into these two states mostly. Now Johore is rich, it started complaining a lot.

  • @gkky997
    @gkky997 25 дней назад +1

    I strongly recommend the history of Malaya and Johor be closely looked at, by those who have not, before falling victim to ignorance concluding HRH Tungku Ismail's statements lack validity.
    You may or may not be pleasantly surprised depending on the divide one happens to be on...
    Look at the archives in particular.

    • @Model3GenerativeANdroid
      @Model3GenerativeANdroid 25 дней назад +4

      If the MacMichael Agreement still stands today, do you think that the present ruler could afford to buy a Bugatti?

    • @Model3GenerativeANdroid
      @Model3GenerativeANdroid 25 дней назад +2

      MacMichael Agreement was signed in 1945 between then Regent of Johor and Harold MacMichael, where the King is only involved in Islam & Adat Istiadat Raja only & Not in any administrative capacity. Is that the the agreement you're talking about?

    • @Hs5687
      @Hs5687 25 дней назад +1

      History can easily be manipulated to Suit..
      .. Relevant is RM now under Singapore’s Control… Singapore will Decide..😊

    • @cac1504
      @cac1504 24 дня назад +1

      What was the verdict by Prof KKK on this matter?

    • @sfaiz3780
      @sfaiz3780 24 дня назад +3

      Johor sultans was inauguate by the British king. If johor were to be given back to what it was, it should return to the British and king Charles should reign over johor not sultan Ibrahim or TMJ.

  • @jamestan8266
    @jamestan8266 25 дней назад +5

    THE LATE MR. LEE KUAN YEW, told me, sooner or later JOHOR will one day join Singapore.. He is serious about it.

    • @francisboulangere7628
      @francisboulangere7628 24 дня назад

      Even late LKY relatives knows this.

    • @Hs5687
      @Hs5687 24 дня назад

      The Late LKY is also known to have many Predatory Bad Habits & Racist Policies. ie. Land Grab, Marginalising & Oppressing SG Muslims , Destroying not only Political Adversaries but also Influential People,Families & sometimes even entire Communities, Looting & Plundering significant Arab Land Holdings etc … LKY’s Bad Habits are PAP’s Policies……😊

    • @monroedoc6729
      @monroedoc6729 24 дня назад +5

      Better u call LKY first..he is waiting for ur call.

    • @nadaiduit
      @nadaiduit 24 дня назад

      Owing to abundant oil, he persuaded S&S to form a partnership. Afterward the malaya leaders throw him under the bus and yes, the oil belong to malaya minus singapore.

    • @francisboulangere7628
      @francisboulangere7628 24 дня назад

      @@monroedoc6729 , he's waiting for who's call? In Nirvana?

  • @kamaruddin9172
    @kamaruddin9172 24 дня назад

    MA63 is valid, Anglo Johor Treaty 1885 also still valid. That how differ this 3 states from the rest.

    • @tiries3471
      @tiries3471 24 дня назад +1

      Nooe The Federal Constitution is supreme. Keluhuran Perlembagaan dan undang2. Musuh mesti ditangkap.

    • @zulzuli3603
      @zulzuli3603 23 дня назад

      So, any takers to leave Malaysia?

  • @hanteongng626
    @hanteongng626 23 дня назад

    walaupun kes 1894 (lama) menyatakan Johor adalah state yang unik, tapi Johor telah masuk Perjanjian Federal pada tahun 1948 (baru), Johor sudah jadi samarata dengan negeri lain.

  • @fazril7972
    @fazril7972 25 дней назад

    What with johor joining singapore😂 that’s like saying sarawak should join indonesia. If both are to leave the federation they absolutely want their own independent sovereign state.

    • @francisboulangere7628
      @francisboulangere7628 24 дня назад

      That's dangerous. Exactly what Konfrontasi Maphilindo is all about. Fighting over persuading Sabah Sarawak to choose between joining Federated Malay states (peninsular), Philippines, or Indonesia. Go read history back.

  • @mohdazrol7764
    @mohdazrol7764 25 дней назад +1

    Keluar jela dari malaysia..terpaling istimewa sangat

    • @GR-nv1wy
      @GR-nv1wy 24 дня назад

      anjing malas rileks tolong

    • @zulzuli3603
      @zulzuli3603 23 дня назад

      Ini saya setuju...dah lama isu ni TMJ timbulkan. Naik muak jadinya!!!

  • @ulooqulg
    @ulooqulg 25 дней назад +3

    Kalo ada tanah istana di SG, kepunyaan KESULTANAN JOHOR (bukan aset Malaysia , or kerajaan negeri ) bernilai BERBILLION .. x keluar sesen pun.. sebab dah dari zaman TEMASEK dia yg punya.
    Kena respect lah...
    Btw kerajaan Johor adalah lanjutan kerajaan Melaka . The true GodFather Malay Empire.😂. Bahasa Melayu adalah Lingua Franca ratusan juta org. ketika itu n kini.
    Jgn la buat sekupang dua.. kt depa.

  • @joeharry32817
    @joeharry32817 24 дня назад +3

    Bukan negara perpaduan, tapi sedang berpecah, hakikat lantik ketua kaki menipu

    • @francisboulangere7628
      @francisboulangere7628 24 дня назад +2

      Mungkin kerajaan Kedah Tua & Kesultanan Pattani boleh dibangunkan semula? 🤔

    • @joko_o
      @joko_o 24 дня назад

      @@francisboulangere7628 balik sumatera sajalah melayu2 palsu penjajah tanah orang asli

    • @zulzuli3603
      @zulzuli3603 23 дня назад

      Ketua kaki penipu tu siapa? Bgtau le, rakyat Malaysia nk tau...ada berani?