Everything you need to know about Tidal -- in 90 seconds | Mashable
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
- Everybody's talking about Tidal -- but, compared to similar streaming services, like Spotify and Rdio, is it really all that different?
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The first time I used Tidal in my living room it was like hearing music for the first time in years without ear plugs. The mids and highs are so much better than Spotify, Pandora, and RUclips.
I know, right? I was really surprised how the quality differered from Spotify and RUclips. Especially when comparing videos. Although, I should mention that I have a rather nice speaker setup at home...
@@fredriklundquist4276 Yes. One might try the premium Tidal service IF (s)he already was moved some time ago to buy a really good set of stereo speakers (e.g., Polk) and good headphones (e.g., Stax). But if some folks even then still cannot hear the superiority in Tidal's MASTER series of hi-res. songs, then they should know that they already wasted some of their money some time ago on audiophile gear. They should stop wasting any more of their money on trying to own very good music quality; they simply are not to the manner born. They simply ought not to subscribe to the extra $10.00 premium service. It's not for everyone. Problem for them solved.
Finally, a video that explains Tidal the right way. Well done. Complex News' video was terrible at explaining the service like other RUclips channels. There is no way for the average consumer to tell the difference even with $250 headphones. You're talking about at least a $600 setup.
rybob7 Thanks! Glad you liked the video.
rybob7 Well, it depends. If you use bluetooth, there will be extra compression at a bluetooth channel side AFAIK. And one thing certain about lossy compression is that if you compress something with losses, uncompress it, and then again compress with losses - you will seriously damage the quality.
rybob7 As long as you're not using a portable device, your 200-300$ headphones (as long as it has a range around 5-30000Hz) you'll tell a track in FLAC and 320kbps apart any day. Not trying to defend Tidal, as I use Spotify premium every day, I'm just not agreeing with what you're saying.
oh yeah, now everyone can tell the difference, on ANY track , yeah
rybob7 it's not that simple... I can tell the difference on gear that's not even that great, but its really much more of a feel rather than a sound. The main thing people don't understand is that an mp3 takes inaudible frequencies and removes them from the file format. The human ear is not suppose to be able to hear what the mp3 takes away no matter how expensive your gear is. Your dog on the other hand would have no trouble hearing the difference...
This service is not for everybody? It doesn't make sense at all, I mean, why do they use hashtag #TidalForAll? I don't get it!
They are idiots who don't understand marketing.
Alex Pérez You sir need way more likes ! :)
Alex Pérez He was specifically referring to the HiFi Premium service at that point in the video and that was likely the context the quote was taken from.
It's not like they care if you like the music or not, that's not the point. Tidal. For all.
Not to mention that that shit is gonna wreck your data plan!
Offline mode
There's a Wi-Fi to download the music, hellow?
Your wifi has no data plan? That's gotta be GREAT!
PeyoteIguana
Many apologies if your ISP caps your data usage for Internet.
You probably go for a better ISP. Just a suggestion.
ISP = Internet Service Provider
Just in case anyone doesn't know.
PeyoteIguana Yeah, there is UNLIMITED data plan wifi, hellow? And yes, my wifi is unlimited.
TIDAL pays their artists a fair share, the highest in the business, not like Spotify where almost all the money go to the founders of Spotify. That’s another benefit. They also have a 10$ subscription..
Tidal does have a $9.99 option. Also if you’re a student or veteran they have discounted service. I pay 5.99 for tidal and I love it
Please add me to your playlist Mil Gox hottest artist from Belize
He said there was a 9.99 option.
@@kennedystarr8094 cool….
ill just stick to my free spotify
same here meow
Same lol
Me too @meow
Premium yoyo!!!!
+Doorstop SPOTIFY IS FREE?!?!?!!?!? :OOO
I'd rather just buy CDs if I really want CD quality audio.
much more expensive
Decio Silva really?? Just 10 bucks a pop!
i didn't know it was that cheap actually. it's not that cheap where i live.. some cds are more than 20 bucks. but still, it amounts to how many cds you can buy in a lifetime and how much would that compare to a lifetime worth subscription.. if you want just 100 albums it will be cheaper to buy them in a physical medium. with paid subscriptions you have access to millions of songs.. until you stop paying it. your digital library will last until you quit the subscription, whereas a physical library will last until your cat plays with the cds (do cat play with cds? :P ). but anyway, i didn't know it was as cheap as you're saying, and there's even cheaper cds from indy bands you buy in their concerts.
Decio Silva hygnudhxi z d
No you dont
Sorry but Tidal is not for the poor. Sorry you guys hear it that way, but someone has to say it. If you don't pay for your music, stick to Spotify and your shitty headphones. It's ok. TIDAL is for people that love music. I myself, don't have TIDAL; not because it's expensive but because I don't need it.
I LOVE the idea of Tidal and I do believe is the future. I love how they have a lot of artists involved and each giving exclusive content to the customers. The media and the community of people that use spotify hate it because they don't have money to pay for it. If they did, they probably would try TIDAL and stick to it. In reality it is not a bad service, but it has a lot of misconceptions already and people hate it because other people hate it and it is the cool thing to do Just like it is the cool think to hate Iggy Azalea without knowing her.
Smarter people will understand you don't need to talk shit about TIDAL because you hate it. There is no certain reason to hate tidal as much as people on the internet are showing. If you don't want to pay for their service, don't. If you do, do.
+Farid Audee Jay z pls...
+Farid Audee I love music but hell I wouldn't pay 20 bucks for a service they're providing that other competitors are also serving for a cheaper price. Don't get me wrong, I believe in supporting artists and their music and if I really like their work I'd just buy their records. So if you're asking me to pay 20 bucks just to support an artist I'd just rather use that money and get a new record of that artist. Maybe tidal is giving a neat service to people who actually want it, but like you said it's not for everybody. So the minority who don't need to use it won't, and most likely wouldn't like it, considering there are other companies that are providing a similar service at a cheaper price point.
+Farid Audee Two months later we have shareholders Kanye West, Rihanna and other, complain about their own business dealings, telling fans to not use tidal and to just "get it off iTunes" because they're not making the sales they would by having exclusivity with tidal.
You must be stupid
Farid Audee LMAO tidal
Is gonna fall apart its trash
This has only made me want to get a Spotify thing.
Get it it’s good app
I have an ordinary desktop computer with an old high definition monitor and I can definitely tell the difference between Tidal HiFi and Spotify. Tidal just sounds warmer and closer. Spotify doesn't sound bad . . . but Tidal sounds better.
ReliableInsider haha sucker, you are just trying to justify your rip off subscription you paid.
I rather hear decent audio than paying a service where there are only minor differences in terms of superior audio.
+ReliableInsider Bullshit!
+ElPatriotaLX BULLSHIT!
Would you rather hear a good song in good quality or a bad song in great quality? Neither are worth buying. If you want jay z and madonna, buy their latest cd, then you have your fancy song, and you only paid... 70 dollars.
"everything", and what about the payout to musicians? this is also kind of important.
Tidal is amazing
20 bucks a month you must be out of your damn mind
Just gat a job or something. The audio quality is also a lot better on Tidal and they pay the singers fair not like Spotify
If you use a VPN and open an account in Turkey, it only charges 20TRY, which is only less then US$3 :)
Nope
Do more videos like this!!! Excellent and informative!
we should defiantly be pushing to listen to the highest quality music, there is no reason in this day and age why we would still think an mp3 is an acceptable audio format... I study this alot and it's not as simple as "some peoples ears are different so some will notice the difference and some won't", Everyone has ears that are basically the same shape and designed to work best at certain frequencies. Basically, when listening to an mp3 certain frequencies get cut out of the song and although most of the time these are very minimal and like you said can only really be noticed on good speakers/headphones, our brains are still making corrective adjustments on a subconscious level to 'make up' for the loss of frequencies (so in our heads we think we are still hearing the same sounds) Hence why it's so hard to tell the difference in qualities. This matters because it's alot more enduring for our brains to process lower quality sounds than it would be if you were sitting in an acoustically treated room listening to a high quality wav/flac.......(we get worn out / tired quicker when listening to mp3's or through crap speakers)
We don't make 4k videos then compress them back to 360p, why do it with our music!?!?
Shake AU Damn, preach
Shake AU mp3 are and low quality audio are good for online streaming with limited internet, I might not be an audiophile but i am a photographer and I once thought that JPEG's were the worst format for photos and that it would be good if everyone started using PNG, TIFF or Raw photo formats but the truth is that we need these low quality files to be able to send them anywhere to anyone regardless of how much of data they have available. the internet needs to be faster and more available in more countries mayb then mp3 and jpegs will disappear and will become obsolete
Yeah until everybody on Earth gets gigabit LTE speeds and unlimited data, streaming at 320kbps is our only option. Also, Spotify streams in OGG Vorbis, Apple Music does in AAC, etc. No mainstream music platform uses MP3.
And, finally, lossy audio formats only cut away parts humans can't hear (< 20 Hz & > 2000 Hz).
@@shivangswain You can still download songs on your phone with Tidal so no need to stream everything.
Also, OGG and AAC cuts out way more than just the frequenties below 20 Hz and above 20 kHz (not 2000 Hz, we hear that perfectly)
@@jeffglobalski9516 That was a honest mistake. Also, MP3 v/s OGG: ruclips.net/video/MujyGX0q0h4/видео.html
For all intents and purposes, unless it's xHE-AAC, AAC sounds worse than Level 10 Vorbis.
sooo unnecessary
Napster bought our Rhapsody. I've been using Spotify for a while, even b4 Tidal was Created by Jay Z. For myself the Audio Quality is good enough. If Spotify can work out Copyright issues with Taylor Swift & get her Discography on their Service, that would boost Spotify's Popularity.
I have spoitfy premium and it's the best money i've ever spent. Tidal isnt revolutionary it's literally the same thing as spotify if you want something to take over and be revolutionary you have to make available to the mass population and I doubt that every person in the world wants to spend $10 a month, at least the other music streaming websites have free options. It was a good concept but definitely not as "revolutionary" as they market it to be.
There are a lot of people that actually care what their music sounds like, although most of us are 35 or older. Spotify sincerely sounds like garbage to me n my living room or on my Audio Technica headphones.
It revolutionized the way that people give Jay Z their money.
Love Tidal
Mashable reviewer downplays a key ingredient of this service I believe.
In the 1970's a large segment of the listening public spent thousands of dollars and much time, on their stereo equipment - the industry destroyed that arm of the business. Tidal's CD quality option will succeed I believe, and at the same time will rebirth production of great listening and viewing equipment (multi-media W3 connected devices) --- because people want great media quality of their favourite artists, period. It's part of the action that creates identity, connection to the artist's brand.
I like this kind of make video. Simple and quick to the point. Thumbs up 👍
PSA brought to you by Spotify!
Awesome thanks I feel super savvy now 👍🏽👍🏽
So, for $20 bucks (2 CD's) a month, I have access to over 40 million songs at 16/44. That's a good deal, skip the 320kbs MP3 nastiness.
@@pinelasefa4995 Even with cheap speakers it is not that hard to tell the difference between high quality lossless FLAC audio and an MP3 audio stream. MP3 works well overall, and it is just fine for most people's needs. However there are many specific sounds MP3 does a horrible job at reproducing, and that is when the difference between it and FLAC becomes obvious. MP3 will distort and butcher those specific sounds while FLAC will not, the FLAC will sound exactly like what was heard in the studio when they recorded it.
I noticed a difference right away between Spotify Pay and Tidal HiFi, not HiFi plus. I get the Military Discount also. And now Tidal has like 80M songs.
Taylor's on spotify now so I"ll be streaming her for free
PERIOD stream lover
U listen to Taylor swift simp
Jay Hatsville Taylor Swift is pretty good.
Jay Hatsville wash your balls
Damn, 10 more bucks a month to listen to HQ POP MUSIC ? That's so rad. WHERE DO I SIGN UP ??
ThickBeet #DayMade lmao
Right!?! I love Tidal.
There's an application process. No openings right now, sorry.
I do want Flac music but the problem is the 3.5 headset and the amp on a phone suck. we need phones to be made for this type of audio and that would be so cool.
Sony's latest Android-based walkman
true
+ACN EtzGamer That's $15,000 though
+mareena joseph no. It's actually 1,500 dollars
Its worth it imo
Tidal HiFi😎😍
And Master which is better
thank you dane cook for explaining everything to me!
hahaha i had my earbud on and thought for a second it was gus from rooster teeth
sonny lee wow it is dane cook isnt it? Lol
I love how they say "a Lux audio setup " but do not quantify what that is... So... IMHO... and it is ONLY an opinion. ( I have listened to Tidal on iphone 15 max, computer with decent speakers with sound DAC, wireless earbuds ( apple and JVC), bluetooth ( JBL Charge 5 and Sony) speaker and HiFi...)) If you are listening thru a phone speaker, wireless or wired earbuds, a bluetooth wireless speaker, computer speakers (Not Audio Speakers or Monitors) and I, personally would add any USB or Mini stereo headphones under 150.00...... dont go for the extra, it will be wasted. However. If you have a home stereo or AVR that has Tidal built-in or a high quality streaming DAC or the like go for it! It is crazy good!
I'm running Tidal thru only a 3.1 with an Onkyo RZ50, Klipsch RP 6000II frnt, right and an RP 505CII center with a SPL120 Sub, thru Dirac Live.... I think this is a "Moderate level... LUX". I can tell you... That ripping a CD at high bit rate lossless vs Tidal FLAC ( or FLAC in general) on the same song and album is audibly quite noticeable! Especially when you are pushing the volume. The Volume at buzzing/tickling the eardrums, is undistorted and clear!! The volume below 20db is crystal clear as well! It's a whole other level of listening! That said... Take some time and select your genera's and artists upfront! The app really is smart and chooses "Similar" references that are quite nice! Now... If everything you need to know...... just attempted to instruct how to use it better..... LOL!
Since i cant hear above 128bitrate youtube is the best.
My reasoning to switch to tidal is bc they pay musicians more per stream than other big ones, like 3x as much per stream.
A thing that Tidal does have is exclusive music video, early song releases and very exclusive livestreams unlike Spotify
BAXT3R How is that worth 20$ per month LOL
Tik Taco * $13
*Soundcloud was not mentioned because it is above all this... for now
Can you add music from RUclips MP3 to it via computer files like you can on Spotify?
Hell no
What bitrate is the soundtrack of this video at 720p?
Baraka Gitari thats a good question
tidal is clearly better sound... and anyone that cares about sound (which should be everyone that listens) should know the choice is a no brainer
I have a dt 990 pro-80-ohm headphones and sound blasterx g6? Are they good enough to hear the difference between 320kbps mp3 and FLAC? I'm not sure. If there is, it's not a significant amount of difference.
No you need one of those $5.99 ear buds from Walmart. Only with those you can hear the difference between 320kbps mp3 and FLAC.
Eh, it isn't for everyone to me. I am not interested in streaming music. If I remember correctly they also offered bonus content. Which the only people I'd see content from is Daft Punk, and honestly there are dedicated fansites that I could find stuff for free. It looks weird watching the video they had up for Tidal. Though I do believe some were there for the music.
Tidal for jay z that's it
Everything you need to know about Tidal -- in one comment :
It sucks : too expensive and there are way better services out there !
HebboFan It's not for you. The same can be said about an iPhone, XBox, fancy car etc.
The video is better at representing Tidal. What you probably mean is YOU think it sucks because YOU can't afford it and YOU think there are no benefits with Tidal compared to cheaper services. And that is fine, I can't afford it either. Can't even afford Spotify.
But if I were to choose a service I would choose Tidal over Spotify any day since it's better to my obscure artists and has lossless audio.
Best service: KAT.ph
***** I like to support the bands I listen to, I don't guess that's included in that service?
And no, I bloody hate physical media so don't make me buy CDs.
If all were just on Bandcamp...
+CapnTates do you know what Kat.ph is?
***** A torrent website? That's quite well known. I was saying I like to support the artists I listen to, which kat frankly doesn't.
I hate to get physical media, so I don't like buying CDs either. So I either need a proper service(not sure whether Tidal is it) or a way to get the music(I own quite some albums on Bandcamp. But very few of the bands I listen to are on there)
According to this video, Tidal does not offer some sort of DSD steaming. All it's doing is taking 'CD Quality Sound' and rebranding that as HD audio. Why do I need uncompressed CDs steamed to me for $20 a month? I refuse to pay a premium until these are true HD audio tracks.
This also helps to answer the ubiquitous Tidal track comparison test question.. what rez are we talking about here for what they deem standard vs HD? So far it looks like we're talking about uncompressed CD quality vs 320 kb MP3 samples. Why not just use the free iTunes Radio then, which sounds like they're streaming ACC from CD tracks? That's what I use on my AppleTV today. ACC is what I already rip every CD I own into iTunes with, for the fact that on my main system, I can't hear a difference between it as the the original CD track.
CDs have never, and will never, be HD quality audio. Get yourself a good Oppo BluRay player, and pick up 'Dark Side of the moon' on SACD. Once you hear that SACD and others in multi-channel, you'll see why some out-of-print discs can go for hundreds of dollars.
Please add me to your playlist Mil Gox hottest artist from Belize on your tidal
Did anyone use the usb-c output from a android tablet
to send the tidal-app signal via usb cable to a dac?
I love Taylor Swift
Spotify has 30 million but they always push the same 100 songs and never play the rest 🙄😒
even in low quality... I prefer TIdal streaming over Spotify.
it just sounds better to me
Tidal has sent me by mistake a new purchase,? When I have one with my daughter?
I use it but the only problem is that it just turns of for no reason and it gets me so pissed that I just go back to using Spotify
😘👍🏾 Thanks!
What I want to know is... Why are they so 'effing expensive?
I can't replace the CD I buy every month with a streaming service that doesn't work in my car, basement, or basically, offline. Where's the $20/year option?
Crissa Kentavr
You get millions of songs that you can pick up and listen to at any time and these streaming services have to pay licencing fees for a lot of these songs and music.
ACN EtzGamer ...And I can turn on the radio for far less of a licensing fee. The idea that the licensing fee must be superhuge is stupid. I can only listen to so much music, and the artists aren't seeing it.
Crissa Kentavr , the HiFi premium subscription is for those that have high end audio equipment and can afford it.
Even the regular $9.99 version still provides higher bit rate music(hence better sound quality). Go to Stereophile.com to see the kind of equipment in which you would be able to perceive the sound difference. Most people don’t have high end systems and won’t benefit from the premium subscription.
nah im good not my style wont be surfing that tidal...wave ha see what i did there yea that was dumb
😂😂😂
And that's why DJ's use it to rip songs it with high-quality rippers.
I stick to Pandora, Spotify, i heart Radio, YT music and Apple Music!
Wait all of those?
Both Spotify *and* apple music?
this video need an update
cause now they 60 million song way more then the comp
I SUBSCRIBE BECAUSE OF BEYONCE!
spotify is better
Tidal you don't get 1989 only her videos
tausifvids
Unfortunately, it seems T.S. has an exclusive contract with Apple
ACN EtzGamer Yeah really annoying. Its not even on Google play, and they pay the most compared to any other streaming service.
90 seconds or less- Excellent sound quality in Tidal's $19.99 package. However, the worst in support and customer service; greedy billing practices. For the reasons, I'm out. Other high bit rate offerings are available and on the horizon.
hahaaha nice use of the sharks phrase
Ill stick with SPOTIFY
How do u block artists in tidal
I'll stick to Pandora tyvm
YEEZUS
I cant even tell the difference of anything higher than 160kps
Pedro Santos I can hear a difference with 320kb/s MP3. But AAC is a different story.
Tidal.Tidal Tidal How You Like Me Now!🤔 Ice Cube👊🤣👍
Did Dane Cook lend his voice talents for the narration?
Whoa
Spotify Premium
COME AT ME BRO!
Tidal is worth it. Decent hi fi / headphones not that expensive these days
Is offline free
Its failing because it actually doesn't deliver to artists. Payouts through distributers are not regular, it seems to be non existent for underground also, and theres no options for artist to look at stats or update bios etc. I like tidal, but it needs work and honestly comes across as an elitists-only beneficial platform that has no issues faking numbers
Im doing this only for Jay Z >:(
You don't even need that high in gear to notice the difference. a 600 pair of headphones and 200 amp/dac is all you really need.
I use TIDAL mostly because when I use Bluetooth the compression of most services add to the loss in quality when compressing over Bluetooth while I only have to deal with 1 compression on TIDAL and my headphones support HiFi music
That was 93 seconds.
But like it’s telling me to pay to listen to anything
why dont they make a 1$ month, so 10 times more ppl can pay them.
You mean poor people? Eww.
I want Tidal because Taylor Swift is on board
Bet Spotify is going to buy tidal watch
Tidal is a service for greedy needy artists to get more money. Seriously they need stop whining. Before streaming, you would buy a CD, a shirt, a concert ticket, then it's over. With streaming, artists are being paid per play. The more I listen, the more money
***** But the overall question is how much is Tidal going to pay out to the artist? Are they going to stick to their plan and give the artists more money than Spotify, or will they be keeping this as a hush hush until someone actually figures out how much is Tidal actually paying out?
***** Spotify gives out 70 percent of earnings to record labels, who then in turn take a cut and give the rest of the money to the artsists. Are you referring to how much is given to the artists themselves, or the labels?
If bill gates had his way, that's how everything would work. It's a system of control thought up by pervy idiots. To buy into it to gives idiots great power.
who wants Taylor? I'll stick to my spotify premium. i have high quality asmr
everyone.
@@hussainhussain-qo2du nah
.
I clicked on the video only coz i saw taylor swift ..#swiftieforever
I didnt anderstand
Yikes, leave your opinion out of it. I have decent gear, amp and headphones for about 350, and I've been astonished at the difference between FLAC and AAC (for example). While I can agree that not everyone will want to care to notice the audio differences, please keep your recommendation to yourself. It's really out if place and quite off-putting.
Brent Bisaillion "for about 350" You just proved the point that tidal is garbage and is way too fucking expensive just to hear a slight difference lol.
why pay if you can come to youtube download for free lol
💞louka💞 you're a complete and utter fucktard
i would sub to tidal if it was 9.99$ for flac
This whole tidal shit is just so badly done and marketed. Why would i want tidal when there are already established services out there? the fact that its marketed more to artists than consumers is a big mistake. You create an app that benefits the artists but the consumers pay more for a service that they can get for free or cheaper. Its so dumb.
kotal kahn I have hi fi setup at home, and instead of buying 25 million songs on CDs I could pay 20$ a month (which is like maybe 1 + 1/3 CDs). Why wouldn't I do that? Explain to me why that would be a bad idea.
Shad because spotify has it for free ? Because u can get it off youtube? Btw hifi?LOL u reallyneed 1000 dollar ear phones to hear any difference.
kotal kahn I have 340€ headphones and I can hear a bloody difference. It's not much difference between spotify extreme and hifi but It's noticable if you give a shit.
Shad are you jay z? LOL. Its proven that you really need high end to hear a small difference. So thats 20 bucks a month for songs that you can get for free off youtube, spotify and other free apps. Tidal sucks dickand the only people who buy it are insanely dumb ones
kotal kahn Dude, I don't give a fuck what you think. As I said you can't really hear the difference between spotify extreme and hifi *if you don't concentrate* on it. If I would be walking around outside with headphones on ofc I wouldn't need tidal, hell I don't fucking need tial at home. But it's nice to have. When laying around at home I actually conecntrate on the music I'm hearing. I would notice the diffrence, but ffs it doesn't bother me that much that I have to go around commenting on every video that is tidal related why I think it's shit.
That is not lollipop kid
thumbs down for not all explained .
Greed.
If u like KPOP Tidal don’t have much of KPOP at all.
Tidal is something can be described as "people who have no life- invention''
Aaaaaaand its free on android lmaooo
Buy it. Because you're special. People don't understand you.
SPOTIFY OR TIDAL
READY, SET, GO!!!
I just got signed!!!!!🩷 I thank god Amen