Aptera's Solar Working Better Than expected !

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  • Опубликовано: 16 янв 2025

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  • @stix2you
    @stix2you 6 дней назад +13

    What I love about this car most, coming from a strong auto repair background, is that engineers have really thought about servicing, maybe for the first time in decades. It's something we're not talking about, it's kind of hard to get excited about that in the face of everything else. But I expect this car will be very serviceable, and in fact it's my mission to make sure people can work on it.

    • @brentwalker8596
      @brentwalker8596 5 дней назад +2

      I'm pretty sure Aptera will have "right to repair" for the vehicle with each component having a unique QR code to make ordering and installation easy for owners.

    • @MaximGhost
      @MaximGhost 4 дня назад

      Not a car. It's a motorcycle.

  • @craigmerrow225
    @craigmerrow225 7 дней назад +27

    I've been binge-watching Aptera CES videos this evening, really exciting to see all their hard work cone to fruition!

    • @netscrooge
      @netscrooge 7 дней назад +6

      I'm glad to know I'm not the only one binge-watching Aptera CES videos.

    • @mgxmaddguiness7066
      @mgxmaddguiness7066 7 дней назад +4

      @@netscroogeI as well. I own nothing but combustion engines. I really am excited about a change. Aptera is my favorite.

    • @dreamleaf6784
      @dreamleaf6784 5 дней назад +2

      They certainly have cone a long way

  • @cplbulletsponge
    @cplbulletsponge 7 дней назад +5

    I just came from the Aptera after party. Tomorrow is the last day. Since its outside I'm gonna try to sneak in and see it up close. Lol

  • @Fairburne69
    @Fairburne69 7 дней назад +10

    I want Aptera to succeed as much as anyone. I invested because I believe in what they are trying to do and their vision.
    BUT
    If they don't get the 60 million they still need soon the end of year deadline isn't going to happen. Worse yet they could go belly up without that money.
    I have all my fingers and toes crossed hoping that this event at CES will help them get the money they need.

    • @freepower1082
      @freepower1082  7 дней назад +1

      I hope they find a way to make it happen . 😎

    • @richardryley3660
      @richardryley3660 7 дней назад +1

      It's my understanding that Aptera will attempt to produce the vehicles by hand if they fail to produce the funding they need. They won't ever be able to produce a few dozen a year that way, or maybe the 60 they expect to build this December.
      Maybe, just maybe, if sales go well and they can keep the production line going on sales alone, they will be able to make it without funding. But that is highly unlikely. They NEED investors once they begin production or they will never be anything but a custom car builder turning out limited runs for private clients. They will never reach mass production.
      But that will be because the public at large does not see the value in solar energy and efficiency. It means people just want to waste gas on massive vehicles. And CPC and CTNS will end up taking a huge loss. It won't be good for anyone.

    • @MaximGhost
      @MaximGhost 4 дня назад

      Sounds like a Ponzi scheme ... and sounds like you're part of it.

  • @richardryley3660
    @richardryley3660 7 дней назад +6

    In that clip you showed a screenshot from, Chris says the solar panels are generating 31 Watts of power. But as he pulls away from the stop light, the reading jumps from 32 to 76-79, then drops to around 56. It seems to vary in that 40-80 W range while "in the shade".
    Then when Chris points out he is in full sunlight, the reading has jumped to 230-260 Watts. Again, it seems to fluctuate around that range of values. So the 40-80W range and the 230-260W range are not from different times of day, it is just based on the position of the car, and the amount of shade it's getting.
    I suspect that the lower range of numbers may be when the Aptera is perpendicular to the sun. There are no solar panels on the doors, so if the sun is particularly low, only a narrow row of solar panels up the hood, across the roof and down the hatch will be getting direct sunlight. If the Aptera is turned towards the sun, it will generate a lot more Watts. But it may also be a combination of angle to the sun and amount of shade.
    I expect positioning the Aptera for maximum charge while parked will become a learned skill for Aptera drivers. 😂

    • @Tazdeviloo7
      @Tazdeviloo7 7 дней назад +4

      Large back panel facing south towards the sun is ideal. I'm parking this thing facing north no matter what, parking lines at work be damned 😂

  • @TechnikReviews
    @TechnikReviews 5 дней назад +2

    Awesome video! Aptera rocks

  • @mobayguy
    @mobayguy 7 дней назад +4

    Congrats APTERA! The show is a great way to introduce the vehicle and the innovation and features in the PI version is incredible! Yes, it'd taking a while to get to full production but I am happy to wait for mine - The cash is ready to be paid! Great video

  • @andremcamara3120
    @andremcamara3120 7 дней назад +14

    Looking great.
    OMG William, just think of it. Another 12 to 14 months and some of us will be driving our Aptera.
    So exciting.

    • @freepower1082
      @freepower1082  7 дней назад +4

      YEAH andremcamara , that’s what I’m talking about ! Very soon we’ll have our Aptera in hand , YAY 😃

    • @Fairburne69
      @Fairburne69 7 дней назад +3

      Maybe be driving at the end of the year. They still haven't received the 60 million they need to get the tooling they need to go into production. If they don't get it soon there is no way production will happen before the end of the year.
      I HOPE I'M WRONG! I'm just trying to keep my expectations realistic while hoping for the best.

    • @freepower1082
      @freepower1082  7 дней назад +5

      A lot of people didn’t think they could make it this far , so just hold on and watch Steve & Chris work , it’s going to happen ! 😎

    • @shrimptopian3392
      @shrimptopian3392 7 дней назад

      ​@@freepower1082how far did they get, the binc arrives in April, and in 9 months this is what they present, a no functionial showmodel with most parts 3d printed in a ugly way
      And for the ride it's a testmule with no yoke, no interior
      If i was a investor i would not invest after i saw their presentation on ces
      9 bloody months is not enough to make 2 decent showmodels OMG

    • @Jolly-Green-Steve
      @Jolly-Green-Steve 7 дней назад +3

      In another 3-4 months it will get delayed to 2027. The cycle never ends.

  • @theodoredesmarais4219
    @theodoredesmarais4219 7 дней назад +6

    GREAT VIDEO, BEST info from the 10 or so CES Aptera videos,

  • @dm285
    @dm285 3 дня назад

    What I love most about the vehicle is that it might actually go on sale and for a competitive price , before 2030, fingers crossed!

  • @DemaGeek
    @DemaGeek 7 дней назад +5

    Love all the Aptera content and exposure coming out of CES with the Production Intent vehicles!! May it bring the final investors needed! Thanks for your part William!

    • @freepower1082
      @freepower1082  7 дней назад +3

      You got it DemaGeek , we’ll keep going until we get our APTERA MAN ! 😎

  • @NAY2GAS
    @NAY2GAS 7 дней назад +3

    6:43 I heard in another video that in total they drove 27 miles and lost no charge for the entire day. They gained all 27 miles back. Amazing!

    • @netscrooge
      @netscrooge 17 часов назад +1

      Especially only days after the winter solstice, when there is half as much sunshine as summer!

    • @johnreeves7261
      @johnreeves7261 2 часа назад

      Don't forget to take into account that a car salesman is making those claims.....

    • @netscrooge
      @netscrooge 41 минуту назад

      @@johnreeves7261 Is there any evidence he ever worked as a car salesman?

  • @MarkLLawrence
    @MarkLLawrence 7 дней назад +3

    My 2019 investment is looking really good today😊

  • @phileasler5401
    @phileasler5401 6 дней назад +2

    Hope they make it

  • @drivenbythesun
    @drivenbythesun 6 дней назад +1

    Soaking up Energy is fantastic.

  • @paulnyman6739
    @paulnyman6739 7 дней назад +1

    Exciting developments at Aptera!

  • @daneverhart7649
    @daneverhart7649 7 дней назад +2

    The Aptera is a whole new platform for me to be pimp'n out my ride, and it's right up my ally! My only disappointment so far has been the price jump. One minute they're boasting how much cheaper this will be to mass produce, then I read they're barely affording the first release, and even gossip they may sell off to another car manufacturer. My head's spinning. I hope they stay independent and affordable. ...and/or I get a big raise this year, lol! I've never afforded a new car, and swore I never would... but now I just have to find a way.

  • @kgamaseg
    @kgamaseg 6 дней назад +1

    I love the golf-cart electrical motor sounds. I'd rather have muted electric motor sounds than those fake ICE sounds that legacy auto can't seem to let go.

  • @itsjustacomment454
    @itsjustacomment454 7 дней назад +3

    The air intake location is the only thing I don't like. I think that will be a magnet for road debris, and snow for those of us that live in winter climates.

    • @AverageJoe928
      @AverageJoe928 6 дней назад +2

      Aptera commented about this in the comments of another video. They said they purposely oversized it for testing and expect to move it higher and shrink it once they have initial real-world test results.
      I was really worried about it as well, but hopefully they address it.

  • @NoorElahi1776
    @NoorElahi1776 7 дней назад +3

    I sold outerwear for 30 years and my first thought looking at the interior is that the zipper pouch glove box better be removable. Zippers break. Often. I want to know how to remove the pouch and replace when it inevitably breaks at an inconvenient time. If that thing is difficult to take out of the car (because trust me, you're not going to fix that in place) it will be the first thing Aptera redesigns.

    • @freepower1082
      @freepower1082  7 дней назад +2

      Thanks for sharing NoorElahi , there maybe a third party fix it .More than likely I will not even use it , but we’ll have to wait and see . 😎

    • @NoorElahi1776
      @NoorElahi1776 7 дней назад +2

      @@freepower1082 After sleeping on it, I'm sure it will be removable. Maybe I can even develop and sell a replacement to buy myself a second Aptera!

  • @TheViewFromHome
    @TheViewFromHome 7 дней назад +1

    It looks like the PI build on display is just a shell, no display on the dash, and it has not been turned on in any of the videos. All demos have been in the track version. You would think they would show the UI in the PI build to those looking at that vehicle.

    • @robertkirchner7981
      @robertkirchner7981 7 дней назад +2

      My understanding is that they have only one PI battery pack, and it's in "Apollo", the track tester that they are using for rides at CES.

  • @universeisundernoobligatio3283
    @universeisundernoobligatio3283 5 дней назад

    Looking forward to my Aptera in my driveway here in Ontario Canada.
    Hope they sell a winter version of the front wheel skirts, current ones will act like snow plows.
    Note from my solar panel output this winter expect some ware between 0 to 5miles of solar for 4 months a year. OK with that.
    Also hope the redesigns stop soon, so that Aptera can head for production. Hopefully might see mine by 27/28

  • @randyland1000
    @randyland1000 День назад

    I actually like the black steering wheel better than the yoke. lol

  • @chirawat.t
    @chirawat.t 7 дней назад +1

    Did air conditioner turn on during the test?

  • @ethanlinderman8833
    @ethanlinderman8833 7 дней назад +5

    Wait so full sunlight it’s getting ~250 W? That’s pretty small. 12 hours of that (which is already optimistic) is 3 kWh. At 7m/kWh(which is also optimistic) that’s like 20 miles a day. I guess it’s better than nothing, but realistically you’ll get maybe 10-15 miles a day? Is that worth all the compromises of this smaller vehicle? Especially since if you pay $0.16 per kWh, that’s like 50 cents a day of energy “saved”

    • @charlesbeane8795
      @charlesbeane8795 7 дней назад

      Details, details.

    • @AverageJoe928
      @AverageJoe928 6 дней назад +2

      That's later in the afternoon in the middle of winter. Mid day in the middle of summer should be much closer to 700 watts.
      And the solar will probably never be cheaper than plugging in but it'll be super helpful for people that don't have access to a charger (renters, etc).

    • @netscrooge
      @netscrooge 17 часов назад

      Early testing returned 9miles/kWh driving at various speeds, around 40mph, up to 50mph.

  • @johnziegler5453
    @johnziegler5453 5 дней назад

    I love the idea just not sure if it is to late and to little for cost.

  • @kevroll99
    @kevroll99 7 дней назад

    Got to sit in it for the first time today, interior is a little smaller and cramped than I expected but it's pretty much got to be and that's ok.

  • @-whackd
    @-whackd 4 дня назад +1

    By the time this comes out, Tesla will release robotaxi and every car maker will go under

  • @JamaicanMeCrazy
    @JamaicanMeCrazy 7 дней назад

    I wish you guys had a regular strong when like the one in this car

  • @golfish8589
    @golfish8589 7 дней назад +2

    Your headline is misleading.
    Aptera did not say their solar is working better then expected. You did.
    Max is 700w

    • @netscrooge
      @netscrooge 17 часов назад

      Aptera said they got well over 20 miles (27?) of solar charging. The 40m/day would be under ideal conditions. So that is better than expected, since CES 2025 was only days after the winter solstice, when there is half the power from the sun as summer.

  • @jeffnreno5080
    @jeffnreno5080 7 дней назад +1

    Will it supercharge if needed?

    • @richardryley3660
      @richardryley3660 7 дней назад +3

      Yes. It has a NACS port.

    • @jeffnreno5080
      @jeffnreno5080 7 дней назад

      ​@@richardryley3660I know but will it have access to the Tesla Supercharger network. I L2 my Model Y in my garage and public chargers but without SC use, I'd be stuck to local use.

    • @gmv0553
      @gmv0553 7 дней назад

      ​@@jeffnreno5080it will charge on a 120 outlet and give you 150 plus miles over night.

    • @richardryley3660
      @richardryley3660 7 дней назад

      @@jeffnreno5080 It's my understanding that Aptera will have access to Tesla Superchargers. I've already located my own nearest Supercharger station.
      I'm at least two years away from buying a new car, but I live in an apartment so I don't have access to home charging.

    • @robertkirchner7981
      @robertkirchner7981 7 дней назад +4

      @@jeffnreno5080 Access to the supercharger network needs to be negotiated with Tesla, which to my knowledge has not been done yet. One could also used an adapter and charge on CCS chargers. The charging speed is still not established, but it's unlikely to be much more than 50 kW.
      That's not as slow as it sounds, because an Aptera could drive 250 miles on a half hour charge at 50kW. That's the equivalent of charging 10%-80% on a car with a 360 mile range. If that car got 3.6 miles per kWh, and needed to have a 100 kWh battery to go that far, You'd need 140 kW to gain that much range in half an hour. If you had 250 kW, it would take 17 minutes. So not a huge time savings for three and a half hours of driving.

  • @johnreeves7261
    @johnreeves7261 7 дней назад +3

    How does 260 watts from 700 watts of solar cells constitute "working better than expected"?

    • @netscrooge
      @netscrooge 17 часов назад +1

      Getting over 20 miles (27?) from solar charging is better than expected, because it happened only days after the winter solstice, when there is half the sunlight of summer.

    • @johnreeves7261
      @johnreeves7261 16 часов назад

      @@netscrooge Unless they were crawling at "walking speed", no one got well over 20 miles worth of energy from 4 solar panels delivering 260 watts peak. Math/Science doesn't work that way.

    • @netscrooge
      @netscrooge 16 часов назад

      @@johnreeves7261 Early real-world testing returned 110Wh/mile when driving around 40mph (no more than 50mph). The math works.

    • @johnreeves7261
      @johnreeves7261 16 часов назад

      @@netscrooge The 110 wh/mile thing has NOTHING to do with the solar related math.

    • @netscrooge
      @netscrooge 16 часов назад +1

      @johnreeves7261 True, if you're only talking about how many Wh of charge from solar. But you were commenting about the video's title, which also relates to the solar range.

  • @arnoldsmith5754
    @arnoldsmith5754 7 дней назад

    great solar power should be great here in southeast Texas

  • @robinpettit7827
    @robinpettit7827 6 дней назад

    I already predicted this as I was very aware of engineering margin.

  • @charlesbeane8795
    @charlesbeane8795 6 дней назад +3

    I guess it depends that your expectations are. Mine will not be met until I see one putting out 700 watts because that's what they've been implying it will do. Everyone knows it will be lower because all the cells can't face the sun but they only talk about the 700 watts capability. 250 watts in full sun is not compelling but it may be the reality. If the solar panels are a bust, they'll just go back to calling it the most efficient car on earth. Everyone will forget about solar in a few weeks. Remember, it was all about hub motors until it wasn't.
    Now if it only gets 4mi/kwh, they are going to have a problem.

    • @netscrooge
      @netscrooge 17 часов назад

      It still adds up to thousands of miles of driving on solar per year.

    • @johnreeves7261
      @johnreeves7261 16 часов назад

      If it means anything to you, I build, test and race with custom solar panels for solar race cars using the exact same solar cells as Aptera is using. The 700 watts worth of solar cells that Aptera has, will easily produce a daily average of about 3 kw-hours worth of energy per day if it's outside from sunrise to sunset in a sunny location. If Aptera's "efficiency" is, indeed, about 10 miles per kw-hour, that constitutes 3 kw-hours/day x 10 miles per kw-hour = 30 miles per day (AVERAGE).

    • @netscrooge
      @netscrooge 15 часов назад

      @@johnreeves7261 That's great! So you know about it. There's nothing wrong with 30m/day. It's good, over 10,000 miles/year. That's right around what Aptera is quoting. If I remember right, they were estimating about 11,000m/year in super sunny locations, and more like 7,000m/year in less sunny areas. It sounds as if they are getting close to their targets.
      By the way, when Aptera says 40m/day, they say "up to," but the press often drops the "up to" in their coverage.

    • @johnreeves7261
      @johnreeves7261 2 часа назад

      @@netscrooge About 20 miles per day in the Winter in, for example. About 30 miles per day in the Spring and Fall. About 40 miles per day in the Summer.
      By the way, Aptera does not always say "up to" 40 miles a day. Chris Anthony, in particular, often, conveniently, drops the "up to" part.

  • @electronicartis
    @electronicartis 7 дней назад

    where can I find a blueprint for this vehicle.

    • @freepower1082
      @freepower1082  7 дней назад

      You may find it on their website , aptera.us . 😎

    • @richardryley3660
      @richardryley3660 7 дней назад +1

      I don't know that there is a blueprint per se, but you can find and assembly video, and the "exploded" view that now includes the frame.

  • @wendellbrownbrown5968
    @wendellbrownbrown5968 5 дней назад

    I wish they would've made a four door vehicle,

  • @VegasRoManiacReviews
    @VegasRoManiacReviews 3 дня назад

    250 watts .. thats 2.5kwh in 10 hours .. basicslly 10 miles in full sun

    • @netscrooge
      @netscrooge 16 часов назад

      Early real-world testing returned 110Wh/mile.

    • @johnreeves7261
      @johnreeves7261 16 часов назад

      Aptera's 4 solar panels didn't generate 250 watts for 10 hours. It peaked at about 250 watts on occasion. If Aptera averaged 110 watt-hours per mile of energy consumption and went about 25 miles that day, it would have had to collect 2750 watt-hours from the solar panels. That DIDN'T happen with solar panels that peaked, on occasion, at 250 watts.

    • @netscrooge
      @netscrooge 16 часов назад

      @@johnreeves7261 I saw 260W in one video during a test ride, and there's no saying the test drive videos captured the true peak. All the test drive videos I saw had really long shadows, like they were early morning or late afternoon. The peak could have been higher than 260W. In another video, I saw that they had it parked with the hatch pointed toward the sun (full sunlight) between test rides. Also, the test drives were probably done at a lower average speed than the test they performed that returned 110Wh/m. (As you know, aerodynamic drag grows at the square of speed.) So it really isn't fair to say that there is no way the math could work. Lots of time in full sun and test drives that averaged maybe 25mph rather than 40mph could be all you need.
      We'll know more soon. They will be doing more real-world testing in the coming weeks.

    • @johnreeves7261
      @johnreeves7261 2 часа назад

      @@netscrooge You forget about the unicorns and pixie-dust.....

    • @netscrooge
      @netscrooge 53 минуты назад

      @@johnreeves7261 You're talking about "unicorns and pixie-dust" while Aptera is performing real-world testing. I prefer science over storytelling.

  • @mgxmaddguiness7066
    @mgxmaddguiness7066 7 дней назад

    ❤A❤P❤T❤E❤R❤A❤ 🇺🇸 ⚡️ 🌞 🚗

  • @bastiat691
    @bastiat691 7 дней назад

    In many neighborhoods in the US the numberplate is going to be ripped off of this vehicle with how floppy it is, too easy.

    • @netscrooge
      @netscrooge 16 часов назад

      Almost any license plate can easily be removed with a screwdriver. Honest question: Why would anyone bother to cut through Aptera's hinge? I live in a high crime area (had my catalytic converter stolen), and I'm not expecting that.

  • @danroberts8141
    @danroberts8141 7 дней назад

    Where is the self driving? No Fsd no sale.

  • @shawncell1247
    @shawncell1247 5 дней назад

    SCAM CAR STEALING🤣 MORE MONEY FROM INVESTORS ,LOL

  • @aliottoman1451
    @aliottoman1451 7 дней назад +1

    Pretty noisy

    • @bryanwhitton1784
      @bryanwhitton1784 7 дней назад +3

      Engineering prototype. I doubt sound damping is a concern and probably not installed.

    • @richardryley3660
      @richardryley3660 7 дней назад +4

      Yeah, there is no soundproofing so there's a lot of motor and road noise. I actually thought it was kind of cool to be able to hear that motor noise for these test drives.
      When PI3 and PI4 are drivable there should be less noise. I'm definitely looking forward to seeing those test drives.

    • @bryanwhitton1784
      @bryanwhitton1784 7 дней назад

      @@richardryley3660 I want to see the interior finished. It seems that in the back the covering for the body is installed on the floor but not on the walls.
      I also wish someone could give me a dimension of the height above the floor the roof is behind the seats. I want to see if my dog's crate will fit there.

    • @richardryley3660
      @richardryley3660 7 дней назад +1

      @bryanwhitton1784 The interior is finished on PI4.
      I expect interior dimensions will be coming from Aptera Owners Club unless he's excited he forgets. 😅

    • @robertkirchner7981
      @robertkirchner7981 7 дней назад +1

      @@bryanwhitton1784 If PI4 is any guide, there will not be coverings on the rear part of the cargo area walls. Raw carbon fibre sheet moulding compound doesn't look so bad when exposed.

  • @nikolatesla5553
    @nikolatesla5553 7 дней назад +2

    Aptera showing more vapor. Two decades of BS. Call me when they have an actual factory and a production line.

    • @casylong8383
      @casylong8383 7 дней назад +1

      number? IFKYK

    • @netscrooge
      @netscrooge 16 часов назад

      Sorry, but I don't understand how a functioning validation vehicle made almost entirely from production tooling counts as "vapor." I could see if they could only show us a rendering, but it's real.