He edited it multiple times. I was with him until he admitted it. My thing is that if it were me and I didn't know the person was a minor, I would have made absolutely sure to include that. The only reason I can think of not to include it is if you know that's not true and you know that someone else will likely prove it.
@mrbubbles6468 he initially included the word "minor", then edited it out. People caught the edit and he then put it back to the original post including the word "minor". You don't accidentally remove a word that makes you look bad, he did it deliberately.
At the time I recorded it, I wasn't aware of how many times he had edited. I stated other people said it wasn't there, at the time I showed it, it was there. As far as I knew, from other channels, they may have missed it as they weren't showing the direct tweet, but other people's QTs.
I feel like there is a chance he realized it was going too far and ended it, and the minor got mad and reported the convo, that way highlighting it to moderators. But this is the most fair assessment of the situation, and if it was so, I don't understand how he couldn't defend himself better. The way he wrote just sounded like the basic PR bs, where you make everything sound as mild as possible, which means things are worse than what just reading his statement makes it sound.
The anonymous leaker using the protonmail inbox claimed Twitch staff started looking through Doc's messages after the bathroom suspension, some of the staff were interested in getting rid of him.
@@frostedlambs Of course they are, especially if a participant reported the DMs. Or if twitch staff wanted to get rid of him for some reason and were looking for reasons.
the public perception of doc is bad and i really hope that the reality is not as bad as people make it out to be. doc's tweets did not help his case and i dont think there is a forgiveness for enabling a conversation with a minor to which doc did not deny knowing the age of. if doc is as innocent as he claims we should see the text log to find out for ourselves how sick doc is. i want to sit on the edge where doc didnt know the age until last minute after all the nasty stuff happened but the age gap alone even if it was legal is weird as hell
That's the thing, we are getting an incredibly tiny glimpse of this whole thing. There's a mass ton of context we're not aware of. Supposedly, it's come out that this person was even a Twitch employee trying to entrap Doc for some reason. I haven't seen the proof of that, but that's a wild accusation!
@@tazjam12 they have proof so people do know that... But you can die on this hill if you want ill play the 🎺 as they lower your opinion into the ground cause its dead wrong xD
@@forgettable8300 THEY may have proof of some sort. But YOU have nothing other than what's been said by Doc. Opinions, by definition, are opinions. They can neither be right nor wrong.
However, I will add again... I don't know the guy, I don't watch the guy, but my issue is the people who've jumped from one side to the other and started using this as a means to deride him.
It's called principles. Defending him is actually cultish behavior considered the seriousness of the allegations. There is a line you should not cross. And that is defending somebody you don't know.
I actually sat through the entire video and it gets weirder and weirder…….
Thanks for watching!
then i'm worse..because i am defending him !
He edited it multiple times. I was with him until he admitted it. My thing is that if it were me and I didn't know the person was a minor, I would have made absolutely sure to include that. The only reason I can think of not to include it is if you know that's not true and you know that someone else will likely prove it.
Although as you say he edited it multiple times. Always possible he forgot and realisef that correcting things wouldn’t help afterwards.
@mrbubbles6468 he initially included the word "minor", then edited it out.
People caught the edit and he then put it back to the original post including the word "minor".
You don't accidentally remove a word that makes you look bad, he did it deliberately.
At the time I recorded it, I wasn't aware of how many times he had edited. I stated other people said it wasn't there, at the time I showed it, it was there. As far as I knew, from other channels, they may have missed it as they weren't showing the direct tweet, but other people's QTs.
You should reconsider your statement here.
NOPE!
I feel like there is a chance he realized it was going too far and ended it, and the minor got mad and reported the convo, that way highlighting it to moderators.
But this is the most fair assessment of the situation, and if it was so, I don't understand how he couldn't defend himself better. The way he wrote just sounded like the basic PR bs, where you make everything sound as mild as possible, which means things are worse than what just reading his statement makes it sound.
People in general don’t defend themselves the best when everyone is jumping on you and hyperfixating on everything you say.
The anonymous leaker using the protonmail inbox claimed Twitch staff started looking through Doc's messages after the bathroom suspension, some of the staff were interested in getting rid of him.
I heard he was gonna meet up with her. I definitely think twitch is reading chatlogs
An easy fix is: don't talk to minors.
And while you're at it, don't cheat on your wife 😂
@@frostedlambs Of course they are, especially if a participant reported the DMs. Or if twitch staff wanted to get rid of him for some reason and were looking for reasons.
the public perception of doc is bad and i really hope that the reality is not as bad as people make it out to be. doc's tweets did not help his case and i dont think there is a forgiveness for enabling a conversation with a minor to which doc did not deny knowing the age of. if doc is as innocent as he claims we should see the text log to find out for ourselves how sick doc is. i want to sit on the edge where doc didnt know the age until last minute after all the nasty stuff happened but the age gap alone even if it was legal is weird as hell
That's the thing, we are getting an incredibly tiny glimpse of this whole thing. There's a mass ton of context we're not aware of.
Supposedly, it's come out that this person was even a Twitch employee trying to entrap Doc for some reason.
I haven't seen the proof of that, but that's a wild accusation!
He knew the whole time id say its worse then it was at the beginning
@@forgettable8300 you don't know what he knew or when he knew it.
@@tazjam12 they have proof so people do know that...
But you can die on this hill if you want ill play the 🎺 as they lower your opinion into the ground cause its dead wrong xD
@@forgettable8300 THEY may have proof of some sort. But YOU have nothing other than what's been said by Doc.
Opinions, by definition, are opinions. They can neither be right nor wrong.
Not my thing either
However, I will add again... I don't know the guy, I don't watch the guy, but my issue is the people who've jumped from one side to the other and started using this as a means to deride him.
It's called principles. Defending him is actually cultish behavior considered the seriousness of the allegations. There is a line you should not cross. And that is defending somebody you don't know.
@@rainertentacle7573 Don't know what you mean by "cultish behavior". Define that, please.
Also, that's your own line. Not mine.