The nerve of Attia! When she gave her daughter to Pompeii, In hopes the dirty old man marries Octavia but ended up marrying another widow. Then gets angry and scolds Octavia for attending an orgy???
Marcus Agrippa was Augustus' best friend, a most trusted confidant and his military back bone. All the battles that Augustus has won were in reality won by Agrippa. He was his admiral in the seas, his general in the fields, and yet Agrippa never wanted anything in return. A moment shared between Octavian and Ceasar happened where the latter was sizing up people to be killed. At the request of his friend Agrippa who was studying in Illyria at the time, he asked of Ceasar to spare his friend's father, not knowing for sure what Ceasar would say or how would he react to an odd request from Octavian. It was then most scholars think why Agrippa had such an undying fidelity to his liege, Augustus. Upon learning that Agrippa had fallen sick in Brundisium and despite his old age, Augustus rushed to his friend without rest but arrived unfortunately late for his friend's final breath.
@@LordGabriel427 wow, didn't know that background. Tbf, the pair of them complimented each other really well, both on the show and in real life. Agrippa, a military genius and madlad, Octavian, a political genius who managed to do what his adaptive father failed to do.
@@danawinsor1380 When the republic navy was basically blockading and pirating against Octavian because it was controlled by a political enemy (Pompey's son as happens). So a navy under Octavian was needed. But any navy under construction would be harassed and destroyed before it could be anywhere near ready; so Agrippa dig a lake. A big enough lake to build and train a navy, safely disconnected from the sea. Sadly we don't know if he did it singlehandedly with a bucket overnight, but I like to think so.
In truth it is exceedingly threatening for a man to reach anger and still not speak as a beast means hes highly controlled should he become very angry I wouldn't want to be in a Room with him
Man it's a shame that this series didn't get the time on air it deserved and if it was only for the memes that would come of it. Nevermind the genius writing and the spectacular theme of the era.
The Chad Agrippa vs the Virgin Glabius. Until that point in her life no man other than her brother had stood up to her mother for her so Agrippa had it easy.
@@hayaglamazonluxe Yes, the original burned down. 100 or so years after the first one was created Hadrian constructed the second vercion keeping Agrippa's inscriptions.
Just an FYI, he didn't say "bucket ritual", it's "Bacchic ritual". The cult of Bacchus being notorious for congregating in secret and go into a chaotic trance. Also, their priests castrated themselves.
Okay so my knowledge of the ancient world has led me to believe: All Roman's have British Accents, Spartans wore no armour, and if Orlando Bloom was in a city and it is being sieged it will fall.
Andorra ninetyseven command thousand of troops in battle, participating in a plot to make his master a emperor and destroying all his master enemy's with extreme efficiency.
@Gabby Mouse You're judging her from a standpoint of today's societal morals and values. This was a society before Christianity, where owning slaves was perfectly acceptable, and orgies and other debauchery was not inappropriate behavior. I'll grant you that seducing her own brother was disgusting, but again, royal families have practiced marital coupling between close relatives for centuries. Sleeping with Servilia is hardly whorish behavior, the old girl still kept it together well.
@@darj617 Even after Christianity owning slaves was perfectly acceptable. Not much changed in that regard. It was only a couple decades later that Octavian put into place laws that severely punished adultery with either exile or death.
@@darj617 Even during Octavian's times, Octavia's conduct was considered scandalous (especially for a high born woman). Don't forget he exiled his debauched wife and daughter. Remember what happened to Messalina (Emperor Claudius' wife).
I love how utterly relatable this show is to the modern world. Down to the rich girl smoking weed and going to parties with her bad influence friend, to the disapproval of her mother.
Less of women not having any power and more of the fact that Roman culture expected men to be virile and have a very strong spine. In addition, the threat was given because Atia impugned Octavia’s honor (even though it was probably justified, an honorable Roman man would defend the woman he loves)
Agrippa really got the short shrift in this show. One of the most powerful Romans in history, second-best general of the civil wars and he looks like Samwise Gamgee.
I mean, in a well crafted story not everyone can be badass at the same time, or it just feels like nobody is. They wrote Agrippa to be the straight-laced loyal puppy to Octavian to serve as a foil to other characters with less moral standing.
So then you havent watched Sopranos and Deadwood? They top even Got and Rome. Great script and directing and you get shows like these with producers who dont want to dumb down series to wider audience.
Sopranos and Deadwood are limited to a specific genre audience. I never thought either was particularly great, because I am not that interested in those genres. Also, they are a bunch of white dudes running around doing bad things. (Yeah, I went there.) That doesn't make for for the kind of gigantic appeal that GOT and Rome have. And thematically they are not as interesting. "The evil in the world is man! Man is evil! Look at man being evil!" Yeah, I get it. Is there anything else to say? Lots, it turns out.
Yes of course whats your age again under 30? My dad could watch Sopanos and liked it, he wouldnt watch GOT cause its fantasy end of story. This goes for many older people, they can watch Sopranos, Wire, Deadwood but not GOT. Majority of audience of GOT is in their younger years, just like you are. @@squamish4244
How strange. Attia loved Marc Antony, but Octavia married him. Octavia on the other hand was loved by Agrippa (here at least), but her daughter married him. Meanwhile, Livia's son Drusus married Octavia's youngest daughter by Marc Antony, and their son married Octavian's granddaughter. Octavian's own daughter married first Octavia's son, then Agrippa, then Livia's son, who was first married to Agrippa's daughter. Didn't anyone taking a step back and saying 'whoa!' to all of this?
+Nadya Yap Everyone fucking everyone and getting fucked by everyone. Its called a family, "familia romana" Lets not forget though that this family was one of, if not THE MOST POWERFUL families at the time, family of Ceasar and the future first emperor, Augustus, a family that ruled over an Empire spanning 3 continents, dozens of nations and 50 million souls. For them, marriage was simply a power game.
Yes, they're all insane. They never took a step back and thought about all the trouble that they would cause with all these crazy marriages- some of them like Augustus' daughter's and Livia's son's marriage- had disastrous consequences. Others were happy though- until someone got killed
+create flare Exactly. It is interesting to note Julia'a other paramours were simply exiled. He was the only one to be condemned to death. There is a strange story about him planning to depose Augustus, to marry Julia and to rule as regent for her sons. I don't know if it is true but that could explain Augustus' decision to kill him and to exile Julia (I doubt he did it because of a simple sex story).
The romance between octavia and Agrippa however very moving and passionate didn't probaly happen. Octavia was 6-7 years older than Agrippa. She was a wife of certain Marcus Marcellus. Drusus maried Antonia, and Tiberius was a husband of Vipsania, the daughter of Marcus Vipsanius Agrippa. Julia was in love with him but he didn't love her. Uhappily married to Agrippa and later to Tiberius, she had many lovers including the younger son of Marcus Antonius, Jullus Antonius. Both Julia and Jullus was condemned to death sentece. However, in Julia's case it lasted longer.
Eh..maybe? Maybe more "natural" I guess, but definitely not as potent as today. I only say that since the first scene of "drug use" I saw in this series was when they were freebasing hemp, as they called it. Not exactly my idea of "good drugs" when they're doing that instead of actually smoking mj.
@Crimson "Drugs werent actualy ivented" Unless they are synthetic, drugs can't be "invented", they can only be "discovered". Just a nitpick. A little more than a nitpick: Consumption of drugs in order to alter one's consciousness goes back to long before Roman times. Opium was known and used as an intoxicant as far back as the ancient Sumerians- about 5000 BCE. Opium had its own ideogram in their alphabet. Ancient Sumer is- along with ancient Egypt- pretty much the earliest civilization that we have written records of, and they used drugs. Every civilization and culture ever since that time knew of and used drugs. Throughout history humans have always been taking drugs, they didn't have to be "invented".
There were 2 types at least in reality. 1 being the rituals you speak of in honour of Bacchus, then there were those that some nobles would throw away at private parties, these were simply for entertainment and were the ones that more pious people frowned upon. Seems hipocritical but these people had a really good separation between something done to honour their gods and somehing done for any other reason.
saltytrey true! :) In reality Agrippa was really something like the estate manager in Augustus's Rome. It was he who ordered all the renovation and construction works and built new edifices on behalf of Augustus. Actually what we can see in modern Rome as vestiges of Augustian Rome we owe as much to Octavian as to Marcus Agrippa. Besides, he and Octavia were such a lovely couple, even if it is probably not true.
talos40200 As far as his service for Caesar, he was so young, that it would be difficult to call him admiral (born 62 or 63 bc, he was 21 when Caesar was assassinated). It was however Caesar, who recognized his military talent sent him to the academy in Apollonia, where he met Octavian. As far as his service for Octavian Augustus, he led the sea battles as well, as fought on the land. He invented many "devices" to lead the battle more effectively.Apart from that he was responsible for rebuilding the sewage system, building aqueducts, public facilities, and generally -rebuilding the entire Rome - on the direct orders of Augustus, but partly for his own money. Calling him"a real estate manager" was just a joke referring to another role of the actor playing Agrippa but fitting very well to his real position.
It is well known that Agrippa was the second most powerful person in the empire, behind Augustus. In fact without Agrippa then Augustus would have never become Emperor of Rome. He won battles which Augustus himself could not win, and even built public works which won the admiration of Rome. It annoys me when people say Augustus turned the city of Rome from brick to marble when it was Agrippa who started the transformation. So if this really happened Atia would not have said that.
@@StarboyXL9 Not really - the Western Empire collapsed after Christianity was adopted, the Eastern went on for many more centuries and was only completely killed off by the Ottoman Turks in 1453.
@@kaczynskis5721 Christianity has nothingn to do with the collapse of the Western Empire. Atheists love to blame Christianity for the fact that Romans became weakened by their own moral decay. Besides the ethnic Romans had a low birth rate, gave citizenships to people that had no loyality to Rome whatsoever. Bear also in mind that the Hunnic Invasion of the Roman Empire also played a major role for the downfall of Rome. According to Romans the nation of the Huns surpasses all other barbarians in wildness of life. The Eastern Empire that also adopted Christianity was a powerful, rich and flourishing Empire. North Africa, the Middle East and Eastern and South Eastern Europe were still under Eastern Roman rule. So what you say is wrong.
@Oldcartoons571 Sextus defeated Octavian badly in which he gained control of the coasts. Agrippa was called back to become Consul and prepare for further war. He managed to do not only that but defeated Sextus in which he gave credit to Octavian.
Women under roman law may have been disallowed from certain areas like politics or the army but they certaintly had power of influence I think the series depicts this well. Regardless, in this scene, I was just making the point that agrippas timidity would have come from the fact that he was talking to Atia, who by way of her nobel blood and being the mother to Ocatvian would have been the most powerful woman in Rome.
"If you ever speak to her like that in my presence again....I shall be very angry." WTF!?! I love how he is soooo innocent like expressing his love for her right there and then threatening Atia with that weak line, he is just adorable...Wanna eat him...Love him as an actor, loved him in Cowboys and Angels also, very good...That was too funny...lmao
He's so not afraid of her. It doesn't fit in with his character at all. He's just told her he'd tear down the skies for her then seconds later he's too scared to tell her mum where to go!?! He just doesn't have the words to express what he wants to say. (By the by, I'm distinctly unimpressed with whoever gave my comment the thumbs down, it was hardly rude or abusive...)
@@Amateur_Pianist_472 Roman aristocrats would have probably been speaking Greek but upper class British accent is the 'one size fits all' For Americans British English is totally understandable but different enough to help drive the story along. The rest of the World just dub or subtitle so the actors could be speaking Klingon for all the difference it makes!
@@JL999k Greek was widespread in the Empire and had more cultural status than Latin. Even graffiti in Rome and Pompeii was often in Greek - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexamenos_graffito An inscription and caricature apparently mocking an early Christian.
“And this imputent brute abducted me”
Atia: -_- “And brought you home to mother, its a strange abduction”
Atia: "you will mention this to no one"
Agrippa: "Of course not"
Aita: "... Why of course not?"
Agrippa: 😳
Atia: "An orgy.....ON A SCHOOL NIGHT? I raised you better than that, young lady!"
@nickys34 I heard Biggus Dickus was coming, is he here yet?
Biggus dickus was stationed in judea
@@jomarivelasco5260 maybe he was with his wife Incontinentia
The nerve of Attia! When she gave her daughter to Pompeii, In hopes the dirty old man marries Octavia but ended up marrying another widow. Then gets angry and scolds Octavia for attending an orgy???
@@marloyorkrodriguez9975 Well he actually visited there but he was a "friend in Rome".
Marcus Agrippa was Augustus' best friend, a most trusted confidant and his military back bone. All the battles that Augustus has won were in reality won by Agrippa. He was his admiral in the seas, his general in the fields, and yet Agrippa never wanted anything in return.
A moment shared between Octavian and Ceasar happened where the latter was sizing up people to be killed. At the request of his friend Agrippa who was studying in Illyria at the time, he asked of Ceasar to spare his friend's father, not knowing for sure what Ceasar would say or how would he react to an odd request from Octavian.
It was then most scholars think why Agrippa had such an undying fidelity to his liege, Augustus.
Upon learning that Agrippa had fallen sick in Brundisium and despite his old age, Augustus rushed to his friend without rest but arrived unfortunately late for his friend's final breath.
Hence why the pantheon bears his name to this day.
Friendship goals❤
@@LordGabriel427 wow, didn't know that background. Tbf, the pair of them complimented each other really well, both on the show and in real life. Agrippa, a military genius and madlad, Octavian, a political genius who managed to do what his adaptive father failed to do.
@@dm121984 Madlad?
@@danawinsor1380 When the republic navy was basically blockading and pirating against Octavian because it was controlled by a political enemy (Pompey's son as happens). So a navy under Octavian was needed. But any navy under construction would be harassed and destroyed before it could be anywhere near ready; so Agrippa dig a lake. A big enough lake to build and train a navy, safely disconnected from the sea. Sadly we don't know if he did it singlehandedly with a bucket overnight, but I like to think so.
"I shall be very angry." How threatening
can't really threaten the Emperor's mother
That shit was adorable.
The least threatening thing he could possibly say, even so it still carried abit of weight.
In truth it is exceedingly threatening for a man to reach anger and still not speak as a beast means hes highly controlled should he become very angry I wouldn't want to be in a Room with him
Octavian wasn't emperor yet, and he was still a close personal friend to Agrippa.
Agrippa: "If you ever speak to her like that in my presence I shall..."
*Atia glares*
Agrippa: "I shall be very angry!"
This scene sponsored by Rufus, who has slaves for every budget on sale, and the Miller's Guild --- making True Bread for True Romans.
Haha.....I'm practicing that speech with the appropriate hand gestures.
The guild millers use the finest grains too
Man it's a shame that this series didn't get the time on air it deserved and if it was only for the memes that would come of it. Nevermind the genius writing and the spectacular theme of the era.
I love how even though the mother scoffs at the line "Tear down the skies" you can tell she would love for a man to say that about her.
That wasn't scoffing, that was audible blushing.
The Chad Agrippa vs the Virgin Glabius. Until that point in her life no man other than her brother had stood up to her mother for her so Agrippa had it easy.
@@admontblanc "Chad?"
Please go back to 4chan or reddit where you belong.
A mix of amusement and vanity.
@@iateyursandwiches Yes those filthy and nasty community has no reason to mingle with a classy and scholastic forum such as youtube comment.
She was high as a kite the entire time haha
Probably thought it was weird a centaur was saying he loved her.
Agrippa Samwise Gamgee
looks more like. a podrick to me
You mean Tom Agrippa Branson?
I made a promise, Mister Octavian
TBA the actor’s name is Allen Leech. Not Sean Astin.
The only misstep in casting of this show. The legendary Agrippa played by this lightweight.
marcus agrippa was a great roman. he earned to have his name in front of the pantheon
His name is in the Pantheon because he commission the first version of the one standing now.
@@mariagdiaz1290 Really ?
@@hayaglamazonluxe Yes, the original burned down. 100 or so years after the first one was created Hadrian constructed the second vercion keeping Agrippa's inscriptions.
@@mariagdiaz1290 True. Agrippa was held in very high regard by later generations.
Wasn't good enough for his sister. Guess hell have to settle for Agustus' daughter.
Just an FYI, he didn't say "bucket ritual", it's "Bacchic ritual". The cult of Bacchus being notorious for congregating in secret and go into a chaotic trance. Also, their priests castrated themselves.
***** Except you definitely need a bucket by the time they're done!!
Bacchus also known as Dionysus (greek)
@chillguysplease was about to say the same.
Quiet about the mystery schools. They aren't ready.
@@wolfgirl1659 that makes sense. Party for the party God, even if you lose your mind and genitals in the process
Okay so my knowledge of the ancient world has led me to believe: All Roman's have British Accents, Spartans wore no armour, and if Orlando Bloom was in a city and it is being sieged it will fall.
Unless he's wearing plastic pointy ears, in which case the cavalry will arrive from the east at first light on the 5th day for a last minute save.
Agripa Partybreakericus Abdductious
Arnoldus Schwarzeneggerus: "I'm the party pooper." ruclips.net/video/rQqiuynMwCQ/видео.html
simping before it was cool
Notice how they're both caught of guard by a decent honorable man with good intentions.
off
Aw, Agrippa you sweet, sweet guy. What are you doing among all those horried people?!
Andorra ninetyseven command thousand of troops in battle, participating in a plot to make his master a emperor and destroying all his master enemy's with extreme efficiency.
Yup ..Beware the "sweet guy"
the OG simp
Marcus Agrippa the ultimate right hand man of Caesar Augustus. Btw Attia was considered a top mother figure for the Roman society.
And building some nice architecture on the side. Like the original Pantheon. Still has his name on it to this day
I shall be very angry... Aww, Branson XD
Agrippa = Captain Save a Ho
@Gabby Mouse You're judging her from a standpoint of today's societal morals and values. This was a society before Christianity, where owning slaves was perfectly acceptable, and orgies and other debauchery was not inappropriate behavior. I'll grant you that seducing her own brother was disgusting, but again, royal families have practiced marital coupling between close relatives for centuries. Sleeping with Servilia is hardly whorish behavior, the old girl still kept it together well.
@@darj617 Even after Christianity owning slaves was perfectly acceptable. Not much changed in that regard. It was only a couple decades later that Octavian put into place laws that severely punished adultery with either exile or death.
Polly Walker and Kerry Condon are very beautiful women and actresses! I miss this series!
You mean Centurion Save-a-Ho!
@@darj617 Even during Octavian's times, Octavia's conduct was considered scandalous (especially for a high born woman). Don't forget he exiled his debauched wife and daughter. Remember what happened to Messalina (Emperor Claudius' wife).
I love how utterly relatable this show is to the modern world. Down to the rich girl smoking weed and going to parties with her bad influence friend, to the disapproval of her mother.
If it were true, she would be banished to an island as happened to Augustus' daughter and granddaughter. He was relentless.
We'll, it's not good relation cause Rome fall
Bro, threatening your crush's mom is not the way to win either of them over.
Took the words straight out of my mouth
Unless the mother is Attia, then your girl will be impressed.
It was in ancient Rome as women had no power.
Octavia seemed impressed.
Less of women not having any power and more of the fact that Roman culture expected men to be virile and have a very strong spine. In addition, the threat was given because Atia impugned Octavia’s honor (even though it was probably justified, an honorable Roman man would defend the woman he loves)
Jocasta is tripping balls.
This was... surprisingly wholesome and pleasant.
Agrippa really got the short shrift in this show. One of the most powerful Romans in history, second-best general of the civil wars and he looks like Samwise Gamgee.
If you look up statues of him, it's not exactly inaccurate
Samwise and frodo is actually a very good comparision for agrippa and augustus 😂
If Rome had GOT's budget, he could've shined in the next season during Augustus's reign...
I mean, in a well crafted story not everyone can be badass at the same time, or it just feels like nobody is. They wrote Agrippa to be the straight-laced loyal puppy to Octavian to serve as a foil to other characters with less moral standing.
Atia at the end: "Huh.... I like him."
"i shall be very angry....":
lol, that was a major fail.
aww Agrippa
When was the last time anyone said "I was at an orgy,mother." I think everyones mother would beat them up for saying that.
The guy who plays Agrippa is too nice to be a Roman general. It's like having your army led by Ben Gibbard of Death Cab for Cutie.
He seems to be a very gallant man. Not a bad fiber in him.
He a good boy
Octavia's hotness is overwhelming
Agrippa: brilliant general and nice guy from next door
Rome = one of the best tv shows ever made.
Imho, season 1 of Rome tops any season of GOT. Although both are iconic shows, clearly
So then you havent watched Sopranos and Deadwood? They top even Got and Rome. Great script and directing and you get shows like these with producers who dont want to dumb down series to wider audience.
I think it was very good! But the pacing was too damn fast!
Sopranos and Deadwood are limited to a specific genre audience. I never thought either was particularly great, because I am not that interested in those genres. Also, they are a bunch of white dudes running around doing bad things. (Yeah, I went there.)
That doesn't make for for the kind of gigantic appeal that GOT and Rome have. And thematically they are not as interesting. "The evil in the world is man! Man is evil! Look at man being evil!" Yeah, I get it. Is there anything else to say? Lots, it turns out.
Yes of course whats your age again under 30? My dad could watch Sopanos and liked it, he wouldnt watch GOT cause its fantasy end of story. This goes for many older people, they can watch Sopranos, Wire, Deadwood but not GOT. Majority of audience of GOT is in their younger years, just like you are. @@squamish4244
"I say...are the walls are melting?
...
They ARE melting. 😵
😵
we should all die
Lol
How strange. Attia loved Marc Antony, but Octavia married him. Octavia on the other hand was loved by Agrippa (here at least), but her daughter married him. Meanwhile, Livia's son Drusus married Octavia's youngest daughter by Marc Antony, and their son married Octavian's granddaughter. Octavian's own daughter married first Octavia's son, then Agrippa, then Livia's son, who was first married to Agrippa's daughter. Didn't anyone taking a step back and saying 'whoa!' to all of this?
+Nadya Yap Everyone fucking everyone and getting fucked by everyone. Its called a family, "familia romana"
Lets not forget though that this family was one of, if not THE MOST POWERFUL families at the time, family of Ceasar and the future first emperor, Augustus, a family that ruled over an Empire spanning 3 continents, dozens of nations and 50 million souls. For them, marriage was simply a power game.
+Nadya Yap
You forgot that, after Agrippa left her, Octavia's daughter married Mark Antony's son who later had an affair with Octavian's daughter.
Yes, they're all insane. They never took a step back and thought about all the trouble that they would cause with all these crazy marriages- some of them like Augustus' daughter's and Livia's son's marriage- had disastrous consequences. Others were happy though- until someone got killed
+create flare
Exactly.
It is interesting to note Julia'a other paramours were simply exiled. He was the only one to be condemned to death.
There is a strange story about him planning to depose Augustus, to marry Julia and to rule as regent for her sons. I don't know if it is true but that could explain Augustus' decision to kill him and to exile Julia (I doubt he did it because of a simple sex story).
The romance between octavia and Agrippa however very moving and passionate didn't probaly happen. Octavia was 6-7 years older than Agrippa. She was a wife of certain Marcus Marcellus. Drusus maried Antonia, and Tiberius was a husband of Vipsania, the daughter of Marcus Vipsanius Agrippa. Julia was in love with him but he didn't love her. Uhappily married to Agrippa and later to Tiberius, she had many lovers including the younger son of Marcus Antonius, Jullus Antonius. Both Julia and Jullus was condemned to death sentece. However, in Julia's case it lasted longer.
man..I bet the drugs were really f'in good in those days...
David Hutchinson they are still today
they're way better today
They were natural-- wine marijuana and opium
Eh..maybe? Maybe more "natural" I guess, but definitely not as potent as today. I only say that since the first scene of "drug use" I saw in this series was when they were freebasing hemp, as they called it. Not exactly my idea of "good drugs" when they're doing that instead of actually smoking mj.
@Crimson
"Drugs werent actualy ivented"
Unless they are synthetic, drugs can't be "invented", they can only be "discovered". Just a nitpick.
A little more than a nitpick: Consumption of drugs in order to alter one's consciousness goes back to long before Roman times. Opium was known and used as an intoxicant as far back as the ancient Sumerians- about 5000 BCE. Opium had its own ideogram in their alphabet.
Ancient Sumer is- along with ancient Egypt- pretty much the earliest civilization that we have written records of, and they used drugs. Every civilization and culture ever since that time knew of and used drugs. Throughout history humans have always been taking drugs, they didn't have to be "invented".
Even at Rome, Tom has a propensity of being a gentleman.
He's not afraid of her! He's just too inarticulate to explain how angry he would be. His love for Octavia is too strong for words!
Agrippa is seriously the perfect man.
Orgies were actually religious ceremonies. Because many of them were sexual, the connotation stuck. But some didn't involve sex rituals
There were 2 types at least in reality. 1 being the rituals you speak of in honour of Bacchus, then there were those that some nobles would throw away at private parties, these were simply for entertainment and were the ones that more pious people frowned upon. Seems hipocritical but these people had a really good separation between something done to honour their gods and somehing done for any other reason.
Heavens, It's the chauffeur from Downton.
Tom. Or do we call him Branson again now that he's the Estate Manager.
saltytrey true! :) In reality Agrippa was really something like the estate manager in Augustus's Rome. It was he who ordered all the renovation and construction works and built new edifices on behalf of Augustus. Actually what we can see in modern Rome as vestiges of Augustian Rome we owe as much to Octavian as to Marcus Agrippa. Besides, he and Octavia were such a lovely couple, even if it is probably not true.
saltytrey
Only if you're the Dowager
Isabella H Marcus Agrippa was an Admiral, first for Caesar, then for Octavian.
talos40200
As far as his service for Caesar, he was so young, that it would be difficult to call him admiral (born 62 or 63 bc, he was 21 when Caesar was assassinated). It was however Caesar, who recognized his military talent sent him to the academy in Apollonia, where he met Octavian. As far as his service for Octavian Augustus, he led the sea battles as well, as fought on the land. He invented many "devices" to lead the battle more effectively.Apart from that he was responsible for rebuilding the sewage system, building aqueducts, public facilities, and generally -rebuilding the entire Rome - on the direct orders of Augustus, but partly for his own money. Calling him"a real estate manager" was just a joke referring to another role of the actor playing Agrippa but fitting very well to his real position.
Marcus Vipsanius Agrippa, statesman, general, architect, and badly represented in favor of cheap Julian household drama...
It is well known that Agrippa was the second most powerful person in the empire, behind Augustus. In fact without Agrippa then Augustus would have never become Emperor of Rome. He won battles which Augustus himself could not win, and even built public works which won the admiration of Rome. It annoys me when people say Augustus turned the city of Rome from brick to marble when it was Agrippa who started the transformation. So if this really happened Atia would not have said that.
Augustus was a ruthless politician and if he were not Agrippa, he would be another.
I think that Agrippa should leave the threats to Antony.
If you ever speak to her again like that in my presence, I shall... I shall be very angry! :p Hahaha loved that! :)
This scene is HILARIOUS.
And Agrippa is so sweet here. :)
What a gentleman! ❤
Omg how romantic I watched this five times in a row.
Atia (Polly Walker) was awesome in this scene. Love her.
3:50 octavia be like "whoa I'm trippin so hard, dis real or wat?"
haha this show was awesome
I love Atia.
aw! allen is sooo adorable :3
Okay youtube I guess I’ll watch it after constant recommendations
these romans m.f knew how to party................
Also the Greeks' Symposiums
Oh shit yeah, the Romans were always up for a good time back in the day...then they stopped being fun to hang out with because they found Jesus.
That's part of the reason they collapsed moron.
@@StarboyXL9 Not really - the Western Empire collapsed after Christianity was adopted, the Eastern went on for many more centuries and was only completely killed off by the Ottoman Turks in 1453.
@@kaczynskis5721 Christianity has nothingn to do with the collapse of the Western Empire. Atheists love to blame Christianity for the fact that Romans became weakened by their own moral decay. Besides the ethnic Romans had a low birth rate, gave citizenships to people that had no loyality to Rome whatsoever. Bear also in mind that the Hunnic Invasion of the Roman Empire also played a major role for the downfall of Rome. According to Romans the nation of the Huns surpasses all other barbarians in wildness of life.
The Eastern Empire that also adopted Christianity was a powerful, rich and flourishing Empire. North Africa, the Middle East and Eastern and South Eastern Europe were still under Eastern Roman rule. So what you say is wrong.
Agrippa, what a guy.
*I SHALL BE VERY ANGEY*
2000 years later and I've only been to one party as good as that. Human progress is a sham.
Awww, even Atia is taken aback here :)
Most likely, Agrippa was a good man in a very awkward situation
The bucket rituals had not yet begun!
Install a Friend Bacchic rituals!
The fuck are the bucket rituals?
Bacchic, but you need a bucket by the time you're done!!
Why the fuck do we need a bucket for in an orgy ritual? :/
So what's on your Bacchic list?
Those Romans knew how to have fun.
@Oldcartoons571 Sextus defeated Octavian badly in which he gained control of the coasts. Agrippa was called back to become Consul and prepare for further war. He managed to do not only that but defeated Sextus in which he gave credit to Octavian.
Women under roman law may have been disallowed from certain areas like politics or the army but they certaintly had power of influence I think the series depicts this well.
Regardless, in this scene, I was just making the point that agrippas timidity would have come from the fact that he was talking to Atia, who by way of her nobel blood and being the mother to Ocatvian would have been the most powerful woman in Rome.
The man who built the Pantheon, his name still sits on top of the portico
"If you ever speak to her like that in my presence again....I shall be very angry." WTF!?! I love how he is soooo innocent like expressing his love for her right there and then threatening Atia with that weak line, he is just adorable...Wanna eat him...Love him as an actor, loved him in Cowboys and Angels also, very good...That was too funny...lmao
An officer and a gentleman
Just a brilliant pair. As are the actors too, and show as a whole even second season wasn't so great as first one.
agrippa fuck sake.... thats the right hand man anyone would like to have xD
Nobody puts Baby Octavia in a corner! - Agrippa
He's so not afraid of her. It doesn't fit in with his character at all. He's just told her he'd tear down the skies for her then seconds later he's too scared to tell her mum where to go!?! He just doesn't have the words to express what he wants to say. (By the by, I'm distinctly unimpressed with whoever gave my comment the thumbs down, it was hardly rude or abusive...)
Well she sure knew how to live life to the fullest. I wish I did as well but these days we are so out of orgies where I live.
Marcus Vipsanius Agrippa
Seems this song was left out of the Jeff Beal Rome OST. Anyone know the name?
Marcus Simpus Agrippa
Bacchus worship.... someone should start that up again. :D
Classical world did not have venereal diseases...
@@martinblocher39 That comment was 11 years old mate :')
@@martinblocher39 It definitely did lol
" That's fine dear, just don't wipe on the curtains again".
"I shall... i shall be very angry."
Allen Leech is mesmerising! Stunning actor.
The mother was so good in that role.
And I know what I’m watching once I buy this hbo subscription for GOT.
Oh Jocasta why weren't you in it more!
That is really something you shouldn't tell your mom.
The title alone made me laugh 😂
Thats some first class acting right there
Although it would be nice to see a movie or a TV show of ancient Rome in its original language.
The English director Derek Jarman made a gay-themed film in the 1970s called 'Sebastiane' in which the characters spoke in Latin.
There is this:
ruclips.net/video/ClWd35zoA38/видео.html
Everyone needs a friend like Jocasta! :P
Love how she fluffed her line.
I like how they have British accents even though it didn't exist yet
Would you have them speak classical latin instead? ;)
Nazdreg1 yes. The real language gives us a far better idea of the culture and have Italian actors as well.
@@Amateur_Pianist_472 Roman aristocrats would have probably been speaking Greek but upper class British accent is the 'one size fits all' For Americans British English is totally understandable but different enough to help drive the story along. The rest of the World just dub or subtitle so the actors could be speaking Klingon for all the difference it makes!
@Aiden Hunter *Mel Gibson heavy breathing*
@@JL999k Greek was widespread in the Empire and had more cultural status than Latin. Even graffiti in Rome and Pompeii was often in Greek -
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexamenos_graffito
An inscription and caricature apparently mocking an early Christian.
My walls are melting too
If Reddit existed back then, Octavia would be complaining about "nice guy Agrippa" stalking her and trying to restrict her freedom.
Mother approves.
I tell this to my mom all the time.
Agrippa is soo cute, isn´t he?! ;)
When the bud is too loud and the boy that fancies you is a Youth Pastor.
they sure are higher than a kite
"We should all die... LMAO!"
:/
And because of this bad influence, Rufus Tranquilus had to be *woe'd*
my god polly walker! what an actress!
jocosta the stoner: are the walls melting?
octavia: i don't think so.
jocaosta the stoner: they are you know. they are melting. we shall all die.
lol
I love the way he says "Never!"