Since you’re reviewing the 11-inch, I assume that’s what the “nobody was complaining about the iPad’s weight” comments were about. But I’m going to interject here, because the weight reduction is an absolute 100% game changer for the 13-inch iPad Pro. I had the 12.9 M1 model because the 11-inch had the terrible LCD screen (not saying it was a terrible screen, just saying all LCD in general is bad to have on a premium device), but the weight absolutely made it a bad tablet. For that reason I was going to switch back to 11-inch once that got a good screen too, but then I saw the weight reduction in the keynote and finally went to a store to get a feel for both devices and instantly went 13-inch. Now you get the benefits of the big screen while still getting a tablet device that’s a pleasure to hold. This is everything the device needed.
I keep hearing RUclipsr’s say, ‘Nobody wanted the iPad to be thinner and lighter’ - which does cause me to wonder whether you actually use the thing as a productivity device. I use my 13” for real work - at home, at the office, and on the go and the 2018 absolutely needed to be lighter. You try standing in a work setting taking notes, etc. all day long. It gets heavy quickly. The M4 13” is a significant improvement. It’s almost comically light. And the difference that makes is notable and really welcome. What I do get is that prosumers, gamers, and content consumers won’t necessarily feel the benefit. But I’d argue that’s because this device isn’t targeted at you. Get the Air instead and save your money.
If only this target user brought it it won’t be around for much longer, no way are there enough “creatives” out there wanting this, “creatives “ period to keep it viable .
This is exactly what I’ve been thinking too! All these creators are reviews the iPad Pro M4 as if it were only targeted towards creators. But let’s be real, the people watching RUclips videos aren’t RUclipsr. We have more traditional jobs. We’ve heard it 1000% times in all reviews that it’s great for gaming and media consumption, but can someone bother to open excel and use it for a min?
Your “non techy” person type assessment is spot on. My dad just recently upgraded to a 9th gen iPad from his 6th gen and that was only cause he ran out of storage space for his apps. He’s a minister and really only uses his iPad for content consumption and his sermon notes.
I bought the 13Pro 2TB. Wanted some future proofing and no lag issues for my daily workflow. I only use it for E-Mail, RUclips and some light porn on the weekends. Fingers crossed it holds up.
Someone who got iPad Pro for the first time, getting Apple Pencil Pro, will be quite pleased, they definitely need bigger screen version as well, but soon might feel it feels too big to carry around. I like my iPad Pro A5 size. The older iPad Pro non M chip still feels good. I bought iPad 2022 last year, it was M2 and I cannot use the Pencil Pro, which makes me sad.
@@Tea-gh8cu no I mean: first time iPad Pro buyer getting this will be so pleased. as for me, my first iPad original experience was like heart beating experience = I love it. iPad M2 feels like transition iPad Pro... and this Apple Pencil Pro is weird that it does not work universally.
I upgraded from the M1 11" I didn't get the 12.9" before because it was just a tad too heavy to hold for hours compared to the 11". While it's not a lot, the little changes pushed me to the 13" and I'm very happy with the extra screen size, larger magic keyboard and it's not too heavy to use as a tablet.
I think you said it best at the beginning of the video. For quite some time now, we've already reached the necessary performance to run the most basic and repetitive mundane tasks. This is the reason why even after being 6 years old, the iPad Pro 2018 with an A12X chip is STILL being compared to the iPads of today. That iPad release was just so good and stood the test of time. Any performance upgrade we get moving forward will have no problem to accommodate the basic tasks we just mentioned, but will just be for future proofing and improving other components of the SoC such as more memory, improved NPU performance, and dedicated chips for encode/decode. Of course, there's also room for performance improvements not directly associated with the chip, but rather concerning thermals. Using your example, I play Genshin Impact as well on my iPhone 15 Pro Max, but all that power has to throttle simple due to the iPhone's poor thermal management compared to the competition. Even playing with just Medium Graphics with MetalFX enabled and Motion Blur off, I still experience the occasional frame drops even if I lock the FPS to 60. Hopefully, Apple will continue to invest in better thermal management moving forward.
I use my 13” for a secondary monitor with my m3 iMac. It’s been great, I have no issues with the OLED screen. And yes I also have MacBook Pro m3. They all have its purpose for my use.
Totally agree on the thoughts here. Except for the masses a basic iPad gets all the tasks done. iPad Pro is a product for a very specific subset of a subset of a subgroup. I work in technology and using iPad for any day-to-day work is a "pain". Basic things like file manipulation, working with PDFs, slides, presentations, videoconferencing I keep running into issues that are not even thought of in the real PC. I want to try Samsung S9 and DEX to see what kind of experience I can get from it
Great review! I have an M1 iPad Pro and considered upgrading for the thinner and lighter design as well as the new Magic Keyboard but I can’t justify the cost. My current one does everything well and my biggest annoyance is really just the camera placement, which isn’t the end of the world.
I went from a 2021 11” iPad Pro to the new 2024 11” iPad Pro primarily for the new camera placement. So much better for using for video calls! Otherwise? My 2021 model was fine. Thankful for the trade-in to get the price down.
I hope you'll review the iPad Air, looking forward to it. I think for most users, the iPad Air is a more practical option. It has sufficient performance to do everything we need, and is more reasonably priced.
Yes i want it thinner and lighter! Just dont want to lose the wide angle camera. Once you have a decent case on the m4, is just the right weight. Especially as a frequent flyer in economy clas!!! Defo next think im saving for
Great video!! It helped us decide whether or not to upgrade my wife’s old iPad Air 2. She says she is going to keep using it until it breaks and save the thousand dollars plus tax. I would like to ‘like’ an iPad, but after using my wife’s, even for simple things like helping her shop online, I much rather use even my old 2013 Mac laptop-hands down. iOS just can’t compete with the...I suppose ‘use-ability’…full featured power.. something like that, of a regular OS-at least for me. I don’t need a pencil, or have to stand up to use a computer device. My wife and I are two old retired dogs-she sits in her comfy chair reading, doing just a few favorite games, and for email. I, on the other hand, much prefer to sit at my desk in the study using a laptop, I have an iPad mini with a strap handle on the back for when I am lying down in bed reading ebooks, browsing RUclips and simple things like that. I am just waiting for September to finally upgrade my laptop (at considerable cost, unfortunately) when the M4 is going to be released. Also, I really need to upgrade my iPhone 6 Plus, but it still works for messaging and as telephone, which are my main needs. But more and more apps are not able to work on it, so I do need to upgrade that device.
I use an 11" iPad Air M2 for my general purpose computing, almost always without the keyboard. If I need to do some work in apps like Xcode, Logic, Figma, etc. I will switch over to my My 15" MacBook Air M2. Other times I just feel like using my MacBook instead and I will use it when I feel like it. I also don't upgrade things until they aren't meeting my needs, it doesn't matter much outside of those cases. Even if something is markedly better, if what I have meets my needs, it's not getting upgraded.
I have an intel 13th gen work station desktop PC, a thinkpad x1 Yoga laptop, and android tablets plus an ipad pro 2015 (1st gen). The screen is so good on that 1st gen that I still use it for photo editing in the field to this day - but its getting a tad long in the tooth, its heavy and battery is about 70% of what it used to be but still works great, after 9 years. II think its time to upgrade, so the upgrade case for me to the ipad pro 13 M4 is spot on if a little overdue... but the cost for all the accessories!!!
I for one really appreciate that the iPad has gotten lighter. I don’t use it as my main computer, I mainly use it when I need something light and convenient, e.g. on a plane, doing some light work at a coffee shop, browsing the web on the sofa at home, reading ebooks and scientific papers etc. And the battery life is good enough for me.
Great review after my experience with the iPad 8th generation I knew I wanted an iPad Pro 11inch m4 as a main computing device to replace my still functional but very slow 2014 intel MacBook 11inch Air. It can't get here soon enough.
I wasn't originally planning to upgrade from my 2020 13" iPad Pro (pre-M1), but it's getting a bit tired in the battery and I discovered I got 325 USD trade-in for it... so now I'm writing this from the 11" M4. Leaning towards selling my Mini as well now.
You’re right : I don’t need to upgrade : my 2020 iPad Pro 11” (256Go Cellular) with Magic Keyboard and pencil works perfectly fine for my needs. But I love the iPad and I want the new one so much. I think it’s time for me to switch to 13” one because it’s lighter than ever. But the price tag is so high that I need another motivation : if it could totally replace my Mac (run Mac applications). Let’s wait for the WWDC and see what iPad OS 18 will be. Or I could just buy a new Mac like the MacBook Air (mine is an old Intel one).
After long hesitation I upgraded my 2020 11' Pro to the M4 11 inch. Definitely worth it. Even when browsing and reading web content, the better screen with pro motion and the great processor make a difference. It is unbelievably light and ergonomic. If you can afford the 13', go with it.
Life is short and we need to get the best hardware mankind has invented. Our eyes deserve the best display and our limited time in a day deserves the fastest processor. And the new Pro is done so well, with great attention, definitely worth every cent!
still rocking my 10.5inch ipad pro i think from 2018-2019 and a gen1 pencil with logitech case (i dont use the keyboard but love the kick stand). mostly media usage, 1 game and light ideation sketching for 3d printing. performance wise still works, plays and views fine but the battery.....well in the past year or so ive definitely noticed it. i probably got another 1-2 years before the battery drops even further beyond and i get annoyed enough to upgrade the whole set up. gonna hurt for sure for when i need a new screen protector, case, pencil. im tempted considering the m4 11inch is not much more expensive than the previous model but im worried about the pencil being 3x the price of the gen 1 i use and it not being compatible. was tempted to get the 10th gen or air but would really like the speakers and better screen idk hard choices
The 10.5 ipad pro came out in 2017! It was the first ipad to have the 120hz pro motion display, I loved that ipad, still OK now to, I have just bought the ipad pro 11 m4, I have to say it's an awesome ipad.
With Canva, Capcut and AI...and other few apps...the future creators are great with iPads only and will probably have more followers, views and profits as they will only focus on SUBSTANCE of their content and not on time consuming editting of videos. Most people who earn a lot are good with ipads only like business people, real estate etc.
My friend still uses his aging iPad Pro as his primary device, he carries it everywhere, while my iPad is a companion device to my MacBook Pro, which I don't carry everywhere. Maybe he's on to something...?
If it’s your first one? Depends on what you do but I’d start at the iPad Air. It’s a great middle ground and does 90% of what the iPad Pro can unless you really want 120hz and OLED.
Got an ipad 10th. Doing the same you mention i.e. youtube, email, brownse web etc… why do you need a ipad pro jus5 for this? The screen? OLED gives some people headaches because of this flickering Pulse Width Modulation that is used, And the price ….1000+ for ? No thank you Graphic designer or sound studio i can understand the pro but even gaming on 10 th is not one issue…
Hey, Im not a doctor. But you have two lines on your thumb that run up on your nail bed. You might want to get those checked out if you havent. They can be melanoma (the same type that killed jimi hendrix)
Yea, if you’re not someone who works in creative arts (film, graphic design), or in an industry that needs pc stuff, get an iPad. It’s the most user friendly, powerful, and versatile computer you can ever buy!
I had an iPad mini and was looking to get an iPad Pro. Unfortunately the 11” M2 was restricted to an LCD screen. Not until recently I was like, I need to get a bigger screen. That’s when rumors began circulating about the new iPad pros with Oled. I waited out. April rolled around, that’s when the event got pushed back, so I had fo wait our even longer, but now. I’m here with an 11” oled. Drawing and designing is a breath of fresh air, I’m loving this thing more and more each day.
Have you encountered some issues with the screen with pixels that shows graining problems in dark or low light? Other RUclipsrs are talking about this issue
Not very portable. Bought it and had to buy the Newest Magic Keyboard. Not compatible with older Bluetooth Apple or Logitech keyboards/cases. Moving around with it just is an accident waiting to happen unless you plan on never moving it.
You're obviously wrong as I certainly thought that iPads should have gotten lighter! The reason that I used my 12.9" M1 iPad Pro less often than I anticipated was that it was too heavy! Now the bare 13" M4 iPad Pro feels way better. I still want them to get even lighter because I still feel that I don't want to use my new iPad Pro w/ a cover when I am reading. I think the maximum weight of a future iPad w/ cover should be no more than the bare 13" M3 iPad Pro. I am sure I am not alone in this assessment!
@@gwvaio I am far fitter than the average person my age and I have already seen other people post the same thing. Ergo, you have no idea what you're talking about!
Most people agree. Those that don’t are YT creators that want it more for a macOS wannabe, and the anti-Apple mob looking to troll. There is very little negative to say about the iPad Pro M4, so some silly comments like “no one wanted it to be lighter” becomes the agenda to flex on Apple. It is a tablet, so of course, thin and lighter has got to be the target every year.
The specs of the ipad pro are like a car with amazing zero to 60 but its illegal to take it on the freeway (it cannot use real mac OS version of apps) just like the material they use for their cables that wear out super fast, they intentionally design their products to look grimy and be difficult to clean ipad will NEVER get desktop parity, it will only ever have worse versions of the same software where you can "start" on the ipad but you're meant to transition your files to the laptop then the desktop, they expect you to buy 3 computers to do one task AND to re-buy them often its been apples motive to make them easy to break, such as dust getting into the hinge and that connector breaking easily from simply opening up the macbook, then they charge you through the nose for basic repair that should be $3 or free, but instead they charge 80% of the original purchase price, which pushes you towards "well why not just get the new one" and then you're back on their price ladder "oh the basic apple thing is $599, but it has terrible ram and tiny storage but for $600 more i can upgrade both but i also want wifi...so another $200 and they change the size of it slightly,.....and the pen doesnt work bc they moved the magnets slightly.... rebuy the pen for $150 rebuy the keyboard for $350 and now you're at $1700 but wait....if i get the PRO version i get a better screen..... so now you're back at the start with the basic apple pro thing @ $1,599 but it has terrible ram and tiny storage etc etc and your initial "its only a $599" device is suddenly $2,700" and you just went in bc a spec of dust got into the thing and broke it but "its not covered under the expensive apple care" and even if you're ok w a $2,700 ipad you still need the macbook and the desktop bc the ipad os is trash apple has always been like this for decades its a scam company that hates its customers
You cant use it as a computer replacement because it cant do the simplest of task like manage large amount of files to quickly move arkund and sort. Cant Do any coding ..a lot of the productive apps remove their full computer functions etc... there is no point of ipad pro it doesnt do anythibg more than what ipad air does so whats the point. Its basically good for videos and painting on nothing changes every year same story no innovation
EVERYTHING that can be done on a IPAD can be done on a computer brotha. LOL.... You have it backwards. Everything you do on a computer cannot be done on an IPAD.
@@LilDreDaRapper Are you high brotha? LOL.... Make sure you know exactly what you are talking about before making such an idiotic statement. Damn these young kids are funny!
The only confusion Is how y’all explaining in the video. STOP COMPLAINING
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I am probably in a minority here, but yeah, iPad does need to get lighter. Why? Because of the Magic Keyboard. The lighter the iPad, the lighter the base of magic keyboard can get. I bought this iPad Pro M4 with Magic Keyboard. It’s interesting device, I like it, but it still feels like a brick when I am taking it with me. Because the Magic Keyboard has to be heavy in order for it to not tip over when iPad is connected. So this is still an issue.
The iPad is my drawing tablet, and the features of the pencil pro really are enticing. My M1 doesnt have hover, and with squeeze and find my, definitely considering an upgrade because of that.
Hey Jimmy. First time I’ve come across your channel, and your straight-forward, common-sense analysis earned an easy subscription from me. I also wanted to say that I think most reviewers have missed one important benefit to the new iPad Pro that even the average iPad user should at least consider. Virtually everyone with a smart phone uses it for photography, and any relatively recent iPhone can shoot photos in HDR (as well as display them in HDR on the phone). But until the arrival of this new iPad Pro and its spectacular OLED display, there has been no portable device that could accurately display photos exactly as they were captured by the phone. Try to display HDR photos on a pre-2021 iPad Pro, with its standard LED display, and you will get a very flat and dull SDR image, not at all indicative of how the actual photo came out. And even on the more recent, 2021-2023 iPad Pros with mini-LED displays and HDR capability, they are limited to a maximum of 600 nits, which while better, still can’t give you an accurate replication of what the phone captured. So at least for me, the new iPad Pro is worth it for the screen alone. When I travel, I always take my iPad with me and use it at the end of each day to review the photos I’ve taken to see what I actually captured. You just can’t really tell how a photo really came out by looking at the small phone screen, even when that screen supports HDR. And I don’t think most people even realize they are capturing much better quality photos than they’re actually seeing when they view them afterward on a non-HDR laptop or older iPad. In fact, I noticed that many new iPhone 15 Pro users went online to complain after its release that their photos looked flat and dim. I suspect much of that disappointment is due to viewing the pictures on screens that cannot display them accurately. It seems such a waste to take photos with a phone camera that is capable of very high dynamic range, but then never see those photos on anything that can show you what you actually captured. This new iPad Pro is a game changer in that regard, if only people were made aware of it.
I have the 2018 11 inch iPad Pro. When I am not at work, it is my primary computer. Nothing I do on it, requires the powerhouse that is the M-series chips. However, I really would love to have that display… ;) I am not sure if I will upgrade or not - for now I am waiting to see if iPadOS brings any new features that requires the M4.
I’ve used tablets as my primary computers since 2018. That was when I bought a Samsung Galaxy Book on Ebay. It was a full-powered Windows tablet with an OLED screen, two USB-C ports, and a keyboard case that came with it. I’d be using it today if Microsoft would have allowed me to install Windows 11 on it. I finally settled on the iPad Pro and just picked up the 13” M4 model. The previous model did most of what I wanted, but the newest version will be much more future proof because of the processor. And I get to use an OLED screen again - only much improved over what was on the Samsung. At the moment, the only direct improvement I notice in the software is that Microsoft Word runs more smoothly on it than it did on my older iPad Pro.
Interestingly, after watching several reviews of the iPad Pro, it appears that the device is tailored exclusively for niche markets like photo editors, musicians, and those whose profession involves drawing. It's absolutely astonishing that many RUclipsrs consider 'professionals' to be exclusively those who edit videos, draw, or create music. On the contrary, there are majority of professionals who would like to use an ipad, and professional applications for them consist of mainly the full versions of MS Office, seamless file management systems, and the complete version of Outlook.
I am trading in my Mac mini M2 Pro for credit on my 11 inch M4. I barely need the power of the Mac, and I much prefer the iPad for my computing. Even video editing. I have a screen, trackpad, and monitor, so I won’t be getting the Magic Keyboard (yet). When I want to get things done, I will just use stage manager with my display.
The main reason why I bought the 2024 iPad 13 inch is the oled screen because I do a lot of reading. For me, the screen on the 2024 iPad is much better than the one on the 2022. I had the M2 iPad, but I returned and got the M4 iPad when I saw the quality of the screen at the Apple store. Great video and good luck with your channel!!!
Even if I didn’t do photo editing (and wanting to learn video) I still don’t think I’d want the iPad as my only computer That’s because I feel like many important webpages will probably function kind of janky on it. Like the webpages I have to use to apply to nursing school , pay bills, etc. If those pages operate on an iPad anything like they do on my phone. For me that’s not an enjoyable experience. Plus all the apps that are half baked or look odd like Instagram. Or don’t some sites like RUclips force you to use the app and not let you use the website at all? When I get an iPad Pro I’m more excited to use it for editing in Lightroom than dealing with webpages that aren’t set up for it correctly. (This will be my first iPad so I’m very excited. My only experience with one is renting an old one from my school)
I upgraded from 2018 ipad pro 11 to m4 ipad pro 13 and it so far has been great. The additional layers from RAM is great, and I didn't expect to like the thinness and the screen as much as I do. I also really love the squeeze, hover, and rotate support that I didn't have before. I was contemplating on the price tag for a while, but for how much I use it, I went ahead with the purchase and I am so glad I did. Also, the 13" Ipad has a better aspect ratio in my opinion for drawing. I noticed at first I was doing the same thing where I was zooming in a bit on the 11 in to do clean line art but after a bit it definitely was nicer on the larger screen. I was worried about the size being unwieldy or too heavy, but so far that has not been a problem.
Just purchased the latest iPhone that will allow OS 18 to run and function, plus the one of two tablets that are also ready. The iPhone you need is the 15 Pro or Pro Max with 512mb. Next the iPad needed to be the M4 with either 1 or 2 terabyte storage to be able to upgrade. Always select the higest best towards the end, however this time it (flipped)😁
Something about your vids Jimmy. They’re just awesome. Just a comment to show my appreciation for your uploads. Great youtuber. Love from a fan in London.
iPad OS was released in 2019...thenin 2020, Mac transitioned to arm for 2 years. Since 2022, some pro apps STARTED porting to iPads and still developing. In 10 years time, iPad OS will have most capabilities of Mac OS including less cut down versions of pro apps...and with on device secured AI, those apps will be better. iPad is the future esp most kids and high school students now are familiar with phones...and no piracy allowed like there is Netflix app in iPad but not in Macs...and more and more will develop apps that are worse in website version. Pencil pro is also awesome with those gestures, sure developers will make use of it in coming years.
Don’t waste your money on this IPad if you’re IPad is 2 or 3 years old Nothing will be different except maybe a little thinner and you won’t see hardly any difference in the chip prefomence You will also need to buy all new accessories Only buy this if you’re IPAD is a lot older
I’ve got an iPad Pro M1 11 inch. I can see that being a strong device at least for another 2-3 years. I mainly use it for media consumption, and applying to jobs / writing notes etc.
@@cypher686 why is the 13 inch better than the 11? I got an M3 Max 16 inch MacBook Pro so I was thinking the 11 inch ipad is better to carry alongside that. I ordered the 11 but it's out of stock.
The M4 11 and MKB was more of a guilty pleasure than a need. I seem to keep coming back to the iPad for my main device even though I have a MBP. I'm a sales rep and it really works well for my job with a few nagging irritations. So Jimmy, what do you think is going to happen at WWDC? Are they finally going to do the iPad (and its users) right and give us a more robust, feature rich OS or is it just going to be another year of trickle in features like maybe some new emojis that no one cares about?
Think WWDC is going to trickle in a few more features and focus more on AI features. The iPad event seemed like the first time they directly mentioned AI so expecting some stuff on that too. The current Apple is very good at segmenting their product and making sure their product categories don’t cannibalize each other. Even if Apple made iPad OS close to feature rich as Mac OS, developers still need to have an iPad OS version of the apps and tools you want to use, so I think there would still be some time before power users would switch. But that’s just a theory 😅.
@@JimmyTriesWorld I think you're probably right. Love to see the file management improve and silly things like being able to add a file directly to a reminder fixed. Couple things like that and I would consider it a win.
I traded in both my Macbook Pro M1 and a 2020 iPad Pro for an 11-inch 512GB M4. Two weeks ago I gave it a shot to do everything on my iPad (from video editing on Lumafusion, Logic Pro mixing, photo edits on Photomator and Affinity to everyday mundane tasks like watching content, e-mails, etc.), not really surprisingly but, even with slight performance hiccups, my 2020 iPad Pro did everything. I just love the usage versatility of the device, and the reality is that on this day and age, most tech companies are releasing more compact products like smaller full frame cameras, more content creators are using their phone cameras to make their videos, etc. This doesn’t mean that laptops and computers are getting irrelevant but mobile computing seems now like an alternative option for users.
I’ve gone from a m1 11 inch iPad and a 13 inch MacBook Pro and re[laced them both with the 13 inch m4, with the hope that the end iPad os coming will be significantly better, all the rumours seems to be the case that this will come and the final decision making fact was the upcoming upgrades to Final Cut for iPad. The weight saving from going from 2 devices to this single is great for travel but I will add I have the m1 iMac at home for full computing os. The combo of iMac at home and m4 13 inch looks to be my perfect combo. Great video, let’s all hope the soft wear and os catches up with the iPads potential! Oh and Microsoft sort their shit out and make decent office apps for iPad for those of us who are forced to use word at times 😅.
Rocking IPad 6th gen here. With Paperlike and the first pencil. Still good, still does everything, the battery still holds, if it wouldn’t be EOL this year I wouldn’t have to upgrade. Probably the best value for money device I ever had.
Besides not having a full fledged 3D modelling/animation suite like Maya or Blender, I am curious to what else users want? The files app can pretty much do what the finder does, just in a different way. Affinity photo / Designer are amazing alternatives to photoshop and illustrator, With Luma Fusion, Resolve and Final Cut Pro doing a good job on the video editing front. I am certain if one takes the time to delve into what is on offer, they can use the iPad as a great computer replacement. I have a speced out 14 inch M1 Max MBP, and honestly don’t use it nearly enough because of the iPad.
The biggest advantage iPads have over any Mac is convenience. It is the ultraportable device that can literally be taken with you everywhere inside the home or outside, something you can’t do with a MacBook easily. I’m tired of hearing the iPad is supposed to be a laptop replacement when it was never intended to be. Macs have exactly the same issues as iPads. An M1 Mac is more than enough for almost everyone. Saying the M4 is overkill is no different than saying the M3 Max is overkill for Macs. 95% of people don’t need anything more than M1, whether it be iPad or Mac. Because the iPad is good enough for almost everyone’s computing needs, there’s no reason for iPads to take over the MacBook’s niche.
Thinner and lighter make a big difference for me, the main reason why I sold my M2 ipad pro 11 inch was because the 11 inch M4 ipad is thinner and lighter and had an OLED screen, the screen is so much better than my M2 ipad, and the M4 is much brighter to. Yes perform wide ie normal everyday use, then yes they are very similar, but lighter thinner and better screen was enough for me to upgrade.
with the thinner body, the bezels are more pronounced now, at least imo..yes, there needs to be space for thumb/palm handling, but think they should have shrunk the bezels down a bit. the next iPad should be an iPad Studio that can boot macOS, but not gonna happen :/
I have used the m2 i pad pro as my primary computer. However, because of the new magic keyboard and screen , I feel the urge to upgrade for the 11 inch to the 12 .9 iteration. In addition , want to purchase the M3 Mac book air.
Any ipad is perfect. Just if you have money to burn, then go with the more expansive one. The so call in display is widely used in the car Industry and folding phones. It is bright but not that special. Just an Oled.
Needing new accessories for it is “convenient” for Apple 😂 Oh look we resigned it so it’s better and the fact you need to reinvest in entirely new accessories…. Well you will thank us for it later… this is such an Apple thing to do always lol.
Since you’re reviewing the 11-inch, I assume that’s what the “nobody was complaining about the iPad’s weight” comments were about. But I’m going to interject here, because the weight reduction is an absolute 100% game changer for the 13-inch iPad Pro. I had the 12.9 M1 model because the 11-inch had the terrible LCD screen (not saying it was a terrible screen, just saying all LCD in general is bad to have on a premium device), but the weight absolutely made it a bad tablet. For that reason I was going to switch back to 11-inch once that got a good screen too, but then I saw the weight reduction in the keynote and finally went to a store to get a feel for both devices and instantly went 13-inch. Now you get the benefits of the big screen while still getting a tablet device that’s a pleasure to hold. This is everything the device needed.
@@BenNotVictor okaayyy mr neanderthal
Just got bored by reading the 1st line. If you don’t like the content, move along.
Mine 2018 12.9 in was rally heavy and I cannot do multitasking or 3D apps well
Okay. But they both got a significant weight reduction. The 11" is under a lb now. That's even lighter than... the 12"!
I keep hearing RUclipsr’s say, ‘Nobody wanted the iPad to be thinner and lighter’ - which does cause me to wonder whether you actually use the thing as a productivity device. I use my 13” for real work - at home, at the office, and on the go and the 2018 absolutely needed to be lighter. You try standing in a work setting taking notes, etc. all day long. It gets heavy quickly. The M4 13” is a significant improvement. It’s almost comically light. And the difference that makes is notable and really welcome.
What I do get is that prosumers, gamers, and content consumers won’t necessarily feel the benefit. But I’d argue that’s because this device isn’t targeted at you. Get the Air instead and save your money.
If only this target user brought it it won’t be around for much longer, no way are there enough “creatives” out there wanting this, “creatives “ period to keep it viable .
@V3SPR For who?
Isn’t that where a case with a stand would come in handy. I’ve never held my 12.9 and said man this is heavy.
@@Vaptomwen That’s not my point. My point is that it’s marketed as a pro device. So judge it on those terms, for better or for worse.
This is exactly what I’ve been thinking too! All these creators are reviews the iPad Pro M4 as if it were only targeted towards creators. But let’s be real, the people watching RUclips videos aren’t RUclipsr. We have more traditional jobs. We’ve heard it 1000% times in all reviews that it’s great for gaming and media consumption, but can someone bother to open excel and use it for a min?
Your “non techy” person type assessment is spot on. My dad just recently upgraded to a 9th gen iPad from his 6th gen and that was only cause he ran out of storage space for his apps. He’s a minister and really only uses his iPad for content consumption and his sermon notes.
My 2018 12.9 ended up collecting dust. Too close in size to my MBP. M4 11 inch is the way to go, not looking back.
Still rocking a 2018 Pro and it’s great. I’ll upgrade when it stops getting OS updates.
I bought the 13Pro 2TB. Wanted some future proofing and no lag issues for my daily workflow. I only use it for E-Mail, RUclips and some light porn on the weekends. Fingers crossed it holds up.
Sounds pretty overkill! I’m sure the 2TB is for the weekend then 🤔
MF this was a troll comment @jimmytriesworld
@@bumzino Absolutely not and welcome to the GFY program. 🤣
ik its a joke but you could easily actually get a second job with that thing-
2 TB for the weekend 🤣
Someone who got iPad Pro for the first time, getting Apple Pencil Pro, will be quite pleased, they definitely need bigger screen version as well, but soon might feel it feels too big to carry around.
I like my iPad Pro A5 size. The older iPad Pro non M chip still feels good. I bought iPad 2022 last year, it was M2 and I cannot use the Pencil Pro, which makes me sad.
you said you got it for the first time then the second paragraph says otherwise...
@@Tea-gh8cu he said “someone who got the iPad Pro for the first time…” never said “As someone..”
@@Tea-gh8cu no I mean: first time iPad Pro buyer getting this will be so pleased. as for me, my first iPad original experience was like heart beating experience = I love it.
iPad M2 feels like transition iPad Pro... and this Apple Pencil Pro is weird that it does not work universally.
0:45 Haha that was a quick segue.
I upgraded from the M1 11" I didn't get the 12.9" before because it was just a tad too heavy to hold for hours compared to the 11". While it's not a lot, the little changes pushed me to the 13" and I'm very happy with the extra screen size, larger magic keyboard and it's not too heavy to use as a tablet.
I think you said it best at the beginning of the video. For quite some time now, we've already reached the necessary performance to run the most basic and repetitive mundane tasks. This is the reason why even after being 6 years old, the iPad Pro 2018 with an A12X chip is STILL being compared to the iPads of today. That iPad release was just so good and stood the test of time. Any performance upgrade we get moving forward will have no problem to accommodate the basic tasks we just mentioned, but will just be for future proofing and improving other components of the SoC such as more memory, improved NPU performance, and dedicated chips for encode/decode.
Of course, there's also room for performance improvements not directly associated with the chip, but rather concerning thermals. Using your example, I play Genshin Impact as well on my iPhone 15 Pro Max, but all that power has to throttle simple due to the iPhone's poor thermal management compared to the competition. Even playing with just Medium Graphics with MetalFX enabled and Motion Blur off, I still experience the occasional frame drops even if I lock the FPS to 60.
Hopefully, Apple will continue to invest in better thermal management moving forward.
I use my 13” for a secondary monitor with my m3 iMac. It’s been great, I have no issues with the OLED screen. And yes I also have MacBook Pro m3. They all have its purpose for my use.
2018 iPad here and I won’t upgrade yet. Not unless better iPad os add more powerful apps
I was complaining a ton about the weight of my 12.9 inch iPad Pro because it was SUPER uncomfortable to hold in bed. This one is perfect.
Totally agree on the thoughts here. Except for the masses a basic iPad gets all the tasks done. iPad Pro is a product for a very specific subset of a subset of a subgroup. I work in technology and using iPad for any day-to-day work is a "pain". Basic things like file manipulation, working with PDFs, slides, presentations, videoconferencing I keep running into issues that are not even thought of in the real PC. I want to try Samsung S9 and DEX to see what kind of experience I can get from it
Getting my 11” M4 tomorrow 🎉 from 2020 Model
Great review! I have an M1 iPad Pro and considered upgrading for the thinner and lighter design as well as the new Magic Keyboard but I can’t justify the cost. My current one does everything well and my biggest annoyance is really just the camera placement, which isn’t the end of the world.
6:44 Just wanted to share that Stage Manager also works great on an A12X iPad Pro!
I went from a 2021 11” iPad Pro to the new 2024 11” iPad Pro primarily for the new camera placement. So much better for using for video calls! Otherwise? My 2021 model was fine. Thankful for the trade-in to get the price down.
I hope you'll review the iPad Air, looking forward to it. I think for most users, the iPad Air is a more practical option. It has sufficient performance to do everything we need, and is more reasonably priced.
Yes i want it thinner and lighter! Just dont want to lose the wide angle camera. Once you have a decent case on the m4, is just the right weight. Especially as a frequent flyer in economy clas!!! Defo next think im saving for
Great video!! It helped us decide whether or not to upgrade my wife’s old iPad Air 2. She says she is going to keep using it until it breaks and save the thousand dollars plus tax.
I would like to ‘like’ an iPad, but after using my wife’s, even for simple things like helping her shop online, I much rather use even my old 2013 Mac laptop-hands down. iOS just can’t compete with the...I suppose ‘use-ability’…full featured power.. something like that, of a regular OS-at least for me. I don’t need a pencil, or have to stand up to use a computer device. My wife and I are two old retired dogs-she sits in her comfy chair reading, doing just a few favorite games, and for email. I, on the other hand, much prefer to sit at my desk in the study using a laptop, I have an iPad mini with a strap handle on the back for when I am lying down in bed reading ebooks, browsing RUclips and simple things like that. I am just waiting for September to finally upgrade my laptop (at considerable cost, unfortunately) when the M4 is going to be released. Also, I really need to upgrade my iPhone 6 Plus, but it still works for messaging and as telephone, which are my main needs. But more and more apps are not able to work on it, so I do need to upgrade that device.
Got me a 13 inch and love it
I use my M2 12.9” to read news and magazines primarily
And I downloaded a checkers game app and I play checkers lol
That’s it
I use an 11" iPad Air M2 for my general purpose computing, almost always without the keyboard. If I need to do some work in apps like Xcode, Logic, Figma, etc. I will switch over to my My 15" MacBook Air M2. Other times I just feel like using my MacBook instead and I will use it when I feel like it. I also don't upgrade things until they aren't meeting my needs, it doesn't matter much outside of those cases. Even if something is markedly better, if what I have meets my needs, it's not getting upgraded.
Why in 2024 would Apple release a premium device with their most powerful chip with only WiFi6E and not WiFi7?
I have an intel 13th gen work station desktop PC, a thinkpad x1 Yoga laptop, and android tablets plus an ipad pro 2015 (1st gen). The screen is so good on that 1st gen that I still use it for photo editing in the field to this day - but its getting a tad long in the tooth, its heavy and battery is about 70% of what it used to be but still works great, after 9 years. II think its time to upgrade, so the upgrade case for me to the ipad pro 13 M4 is spot on if a little overdue... but the cost for all the accessories!!!
I for one really appreciate that the iPad has gotten lighter. I don’t use it as my main computer, I mainly use it when I need something light and convenient, e.g. on a plane, doing some light work at a coffee shop, browsing the web on the sofa at home, reading ebooks and scientific papers etc. And the battery life is good enough for me.
Best tablet for youtube and netflix!
Great review after my experience with the iPad 8th generation I knew I wanted an iPad Pro 11inch m4 as a main computing device to replace my still functional but very slow 2014 intel MacBook 11inch Air. It can't get here soon enough.
I wasn't originally planning to upgrade from my 2020 13" iPad Pro (pre-M1), but it's getting a bit tired in the battery and I discovered I got 325 USD trade-in for it... so now I'm writing this from the 11" M4. Leaning towards selling my Mini as well now.
How are you faring going from the 12.9 to the 11. I've been considering this but not sure if I'll like the smaller format.
You’re right : I don’t need to upgrade : my 2020 iPad Pro 11” (256Go Cellular) with Magic Keyboard and pencil works perfectly fine for my needs. But I love the iPad and I want the new one so much. I think it’s time for me to switch to 13” one because it’s lighter than ever. But the price tag is so high that I need another motivation : if it could totally replace my Mac (run Mac applications). Let’s wait for the WWDC and see what iPad OS 18 will be. Or I could just buy a new Mac like the MacBook Air (mine is an old Intel one).
After long hesitation I upgraded my 2020 11' Pro to the M4 11 inch. Definitely worth it. Even when browsing and reading web content, the better screen with pro motion and the great processor make a difference. It is unbelievably light and ergonomic. If you can afford the 13', go with it.
Life is short and we need to get the best hardware mankind has invented. Our eyes deserve the best display and our limited time in a day deserves the fastest processor. And the new Pro is done so well, with great attention, definitely worth every cent!
still rocking my 10.5inch ipad pro i think from 2018-2019 and a gen1 pencil with logitech case (i dont use the keyboard but love the kick stand). mostly media usage, 1 game and light ideation sketching for 3d printing. performance wise still works, plays and views fine but the battery.....well in the past year or so ive definitely noticed it. i probably got another 1-2 years before the battery drops even further beyond and i get annoyed enough to upgrade the whole set up. gonna hurt for sure for when i need a new screen protector, case, pencil. im tempted considering the m4 11inch is not much more expensive than the previous model but im worried about the pencil being 3x the price of the gen 1 i use and it not being compatible. was tempted to get the 10th gen or air but would really like the speakers and better screen idk hard choices
The 10.5 ipad pro came out in 2017! It was the first ipad to have the 120hz pro motion display, I loved that ipad, still OK now to, I have just bought the ipad pro 11 m4, I have to say it's an awesome ipad.
Thank you Jimmy , well done. My question is how much bigger the track pad ?
With Canva, Capcut and AI...and other few apps...the future creators are great with iPads only and will probably have more followers, views and profits as they will only focus on SUBSTANCE of their content and not on time consuming editting of videos.
Most people who earn a lot are good with ipads only like business people, real estate etc.
almost perfect - minus the price. The price should be a big showstopper considering you can get a M1 Ipad air for 399 now as inventory is clearing.
0:41 Lol.
My friend still uses his aging iPad Pro as his primary device, he carries it everywhere, while my iPad is a companion device to my MacBook Pro, which I don't carry everywhere. Maybe he's on to something...?
Jimmy, what would your advice be to someone who has never owned an iPad but who wants one? Is this the one you’d get?
If it’s your first one? Depends on what you do but I’d start at the iPad Air. It’s a great middle ground and does 90% of what the iPad Pro can unless you really want 120hz and OLED.
Got an ipad 10th. Doing the same you mention i.e. youtube, email, brownse web etc…
why do you need a ipad pro jus5 for this? The screen? OLED gives some people headaches because of this flickering Pulse Width Modulation that is used,
And the price ….1000+ for ? No thank you
Graphic designer or sound studio i can understand the pro but even gaming on 10 th is not one issue…
Hey, Im not a doctor. But you have two lines on your thumb that run up on your nail bed. You might want to get those checked out if you havent. They can be melanoma (the same type that killed jimi hendrix)
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Yea, if you’re not someone who works in creative arts (film, graphic design), or in an industry that needs pc stuff, get an iPad. It’s the most user friendly, powerful, and versatile computer you can ever buy!
Hello Jemmy, i would like to see your storage solution ?
Does it support pivot tables on excel or have a desktop class word processor?
I had an iPad mini and was looking to get an iPad Pro. Unfortunately the 11” M2 was restricted to an LCD screen. Not until recently I was like, I need to get a bigger screen. That’s when rumors began circulating about the new iPad pros with Oled. I waited out. April rolled around, that’s when the event got pushed back, so I had fo wait our even longer, but now. I’m here with an 11” oled. Drawing and designing is a breath of fresh air, I’m loving this thing more and more each day.
I only got the new ipad pro because I was still using the first gen ipad pro and it's battery is very shitty now
Have you encountered some issues with the screen with pixels that shows graining problems in dark or low light? Other RUclipsrs are talking about this issue
I personally had this issue with mine, and as a result returned it today.
The M4 is all there will be now, it's not like Apple was stretching for the M4, they just happened to be working on the iPad at the moment.
Finally not an apple @$$ kisser review just a straight up honest guy .
saying "just go with the bigger one" is crazy... personally I like the 11" model better even though im a big person with big hands
An iPad will never ever replace a Macbook. I own a 16 inch Mac and the 12.9 iPad. I rarely use the iPad.
Not very portable. Bought it and had to buy the Newest Magic Keyboard. Not compatible with older Bluetooth Apple or Logitech keyboards/cases. Moving around with it just is an accident waiting to happen unless you plan on never moving it.
Much like smartphones but even more so, they are certainly at risk of accidents.
…Perfect if one is a digital artist. Otherwise software is years behind the hardware.^^
So in short, It just needs to have the Mac OS to fully unlock the potential
You're obviously wrong as I certainly thought that iPads should have gotten lighter! The reason that I used my 12.9" M1 iPad Pro less often than I anticipated was that it was too heavy! Now the bare 13" M4 iPad Pro feels way better. I still want them to get even lighter because I still feel that I don't want to use my new iPad Pro w/ a cover when I am reading. I think the maximum weight of a future iPad w/ cover should be no more than the bare 13" M3 iPad Pro.
I am sure I am not alone in this assessment!
You are alone in that assessment. You just need to visit a gym 💪
@@gwvaio I am far fitter than the average person my age and I have already seen other people post the same thing. Ergo, you have no idea what you're talking about!
Most people agree. Those that don’t are YT creators that want it more for a macOS wannabe, and the anti-Apple mob looking to troll. There is very little negative to say about the iPad Pro M4, so some silly comments like “no one wanted it to be lighter” becomes the agenda to flex on Apple. It is a tablet, so of course, thin and lighter has got to be the target every year.
The lighter the ipad is, the less is the usage time.
@@ruschein ergo vis-à-vis concurrently you are in the eighth iteration of the matrix
The specs of the ipad pro are like a car with amazing zero to 60 but its illegal to take it on the freeway (it cannot use real mac OS version of apps)
just like the material they use for their cables that wear out super fast, they intentionally design their products to look grimy and be difficult to clean
ipad will NEVER get desktop parity, it will only ever have worse versions of the same software where you can "start" on the ipad but you're meant to transition your files to the laptop then the desktop, they expect you to buy 3 computers to do one task AND to re-buy them often
its been apples motive to make them easy to break, such as dust getting into the hinge and that connector breaking easily from simply opening up the macbook, then they charge you through the nose for basic repair that should be $3 or free, but instead they charge 80% of the original purchase price, which pushes you towards "well why not just get the new one"
and then you're back on their price ladder
"oh the basic apple thing is $599, but it has terrible ram and tiny storage
but for $600 more i can upgrade both
but i also want wifi...so another $200
and they change the size of it slightly,.....and the pen doesnt work bc they moved the magnets slightly....
rebuy the pen for $150
rebuy the keyboard for $350
and now you're at $1700
but wait....if i get the PRO version i get a better screen.....
so now you're back at the start with the basic apple pro thing @ $1,599 but it has terrible ram and tiny storage
etc etc
and your initial "its only a $599" device
is suddenly $2,700"
and you just went in bc a spec of dust got into the thing and broke it but "its not covered under the expensive apple care"
and even if you're ok w a $2,700 ipad
you still need the macbook
and the desktop
bc the ipad os is trash
apple has always been like this for decades
its a scam company that hates its customers
The last ipad 3/4 ipads have almost been perfect. Its software not hardware
But ours go to eleven. 😵💫
Pa ❤
You cant use it as a computer replacement because it cant do the simplest of task like manage large amount of files to quickly move arkund and sort. Cant Do any coding ..a lot of the productive apps remove their full computer functions etc... there is no point of ipad pro it doesnt do anythibg more than what ipad air does so whats the point. Its basically good for videos and painting on nothing changes every year same story no innovation
EVERYTHING that can be done on a IPAD can be done on a computer brotha. LOL.... You have it backwards. Everything you do on a computer cannot be done on an IPAD.
Can’t draw on a computer
@@LilDreDaRapper Are you high brotha? LOL.... Make sure you know exactly what you are talking about before making such an idiotic statement. Damn these young kids are funny!
The only confusion Is how y’all explaining in the video. STOP COMPLAINING
I am probably in a minority here, but yeah, iPad does need to get lighter. Why? Because of the Magic Keyboard. The lighter the iPad, the lighter the base of magic keyboard can get. I bought this iPad Pro M4 with Magic Keyboard. It’s interesting device, I like it, but it still feels like a brick when I am taking it with me. Because the Magic Keyboard has to be heavy in order for it to not tip over when iPad is connected. So this is still an issue.
The iPad is my drawing tablet, and the features of the pencil pro really are enticing. My M1 doesnt have hover, and with squeeze and find my, definitely considering an upgrade because of that.
Hey Jimmy. First time I’ve come across your channel, and your straight-forward, common-sense analysis earned an easy subscription from me.
I also wanted to say that I think most reviewers have missed one important benefit to the new iPad Pro that even the average iPad user should at least consider. Virtually everyone with a smart phone uses it for photography, and any relatively recent iPhone can shoot photos in HDR (as well as display them in HDR on the phone). But until the arrival of this new iPad Pro and its spectacular OLED display, there has been no portable device that could accurately display photos exactly as they were captured by the phone. Try to display HDR photos on a pre-2021 iPad Pro, with its standard LED display, and you will get a very flat and dull SDR image, not at all indicative of how the actual photo came out. And even on the more recent, 2021-2023 iPad Pros with mini-LED displays and HDR capability, they are limited to a maximum of 600 nits, which while better, still can’t give you an accurate replication of what the phone captured.
So at least for me, the new iPad Pro is worth it for the screen alone. When I travel, I always take my iPad with me and use it at the end of each day to review the photos I’ve taken to see what I actually captured. You just can’t really tell how a photo really came out by looking at the small phone screen, even when that screen supports HDR. And I don’t think most people even realize they are capturing much better quality photos than they’re actually seeing when they view them afterward on a non-HDR laptop or older iPad. In fact, I noticed that many new iPhone 15 Pro users went online to complain after its release that their photos looked flat and dim. I suspect much of that disappointment is due to viewing the pictures on screens that cannot display them accurately.
It seems such a waste to take photos with a phone camera that is capable of very high dynamic range, but then never see those photos on anything that can show you what you actually captured. This new iPad Pro is a game changer in that regard, if only people were made aware of it.
I have the 2018 11 inch iPad Pro. When I am not at work, it is my primary computer. Nothing I do on it, requires the powerhouse that is the M-series chips. However, I really would love to have that display… ;) I am not sure if I will upgrade or not - for now I am waiting to see if iPadOS brings any new features that requires the M4.
Put macOS on it and I’ll throw my money on it….
I’ve used tablets as my primary computers since 2018. That was when I bought a Samsung Galaxy Book on Ebay. It was a full-powered Windows tablet with an OLED screen, two USB-C ports, and a keyboard case that came with it. I’d be using it today if Microsoft would have allowed me to install Windows 11 on it. I finally settled on the iPad Pro and just picked up the 13” M4 model. The previous model did most of what I wanted, but the newest version will be much more future proof because of the processor. And I get to use an OLED screen again - only much improved over what was on the Samsung. At the moment, the only direct improvement I notice in the software is that Microsoft Word runs more smoothly on it than it did on my older iPad Pro.
Interestingly, after watching several reviews of the iPad Pro, it appears that the device is tailored exclusively for niche markets like photo editors, musicians, and those whose profession involves drawing. It's absolutely astonishing that many RUclipsrs consider 'professionals' to be exclusively those who edit videos, draw, or create music. On the contrary, there are majority of professionals who would like to use an ipad, and professional applications for them consist of mainly the full versions of MS Office, seamless file management systems, and the complete version of Outlook.
I am trading in my Mac mini M2 Pro for credit on my 11 inch M4. I barely need the power of the Mac, and I much prefer the iPad for my computing. Even video editing. I have a screen, trackpad, and monitor, so I won’t be getting the Magic Keyboard (yet). When I want to get things done, I will just use stage manager with my display.
The main reason why I bought the 2024 iPad 13 inch is the oled screen because I do a lot of reading. For me, the screen on the 2024 iPad is much better than the one on the 2022. I had the M2 iPad, but I returned and got the M4 iPad when I saw the quality of the screen at the Apple store. Great video and good luck with your channel!!!
Even if I didn’t do photo editing (and wanting to learn video) I still don’t think I’d want the iPad as my only computer
That’s because I feel like many important webpages will probably function kind of janky on it.
Like the webpages I have to use to apply to nursing school , pay bills, etc.
If those pages operate on an iPad anything like they do on my phone. For me that’s not an enjoyable experience.
Plus all the apps that are half baked or look odd like Instagram. Or don’t some sites like RUclips force you to use the app and not let you use the website at all?
When I get an iPad Pro I’m more excited to use it for editing in Lightroom than dealing with webpages that aren’t set up for it correctly.
(This will be my first iPad so I’m very excited. My only experience with one is renting an old one from my school)
I use my iPad for music recording and I plan on getting the M4 1 tb . The Production community find value in this upgrade.
Waiting for WWDC.
I upgraded from 2018 ipad pro 11 to m4 ipad pro 13 and it so far has been great. The additional layers from RAM is great, and I didn't expect to like the thinness and the screen as much as I do. I also really love the squeeze, hover, and rotate support that I didn't have before. I was contemplating on the price tag for a while, but for how much I use it, I went ahead with the purchase and I am so glad I did. Also, the 13" Ipad has a better aspect ratio in my opinion for drawing. I noticed at first I was doing the same thing where I was zooming in a bit on the 11 in to do clean line art but after a bit it definitely was nicer on the larger screen. I was worried about the size being unwieldy or too heavy, but so far that has not been a problem.
Just purchased the latest iPhone that will allow OS 18 to run and function, plus the one of two tablets that are also ready. The iPhone you need is the 15 Pro or Pro Max with 512mb. Next the iPad needed to be the M4 with either 1 or 2 terabyte storage to be able to upgrade. Always select the higest best towards the end, however this time it (flipped)😁
Something about your vids Jimmy. They’re just awesome. Just a comment to show my appreciation for your uploads. Great youtuber. Love from a fan in London.
Im really torn about trading up my M1 IPad Pro for the new one. That OLED screen though… 🤷♂️
Enjoy your ipad m1’s before apple makes them slow on purpose for you to upgrade lol
iPad OS was released in 2019...thenin 2020, Mac transitioned to arm for 2 years. Since 2022, some pro apps STARTED porting to iPads and still developing. In 10 years time, iPad OS will have most capabilities of Mac OS including less cut down versions of pro apps...and with on device secured AI, those apps will be better. iPad is the future esp most kids and high school students now are familiar with phones...and no piracy allowed like there is Netflix app in iPad but not in Macs...and more and more will develop apps that are worse in website version.
Pencil pro is also awesome with those gestures, sure developers will make use of it in coming years.
Still not a 4k display what a shame 😢
A very reasonable and very accurate analysis
Love mine upgraded from Samsung tab s6
Mostly entertainment
Some time editing videos
Web browsing and shopping
Don’t waste your money on this IPad if you’re IPad is 2 or 3 years old Nothing will be different except maybe a little thinner and you won’t see hardly any difference in the chip prefomence You will also need to buy all new accessories Only buy this if you’re IPAD is a lot older
I’ve got an iPad Pro M1 11 inch.
I can see that being a strong device at least for another 2-3 years.
I mainly use it for media consumption, and applying to jobs / writing notes etc.
Is 11 good for media consumption like watching youtube videos, netflix etc ?
Yes. But the 13inch is better. And even better than that is a TV
@@cypher686 why is the 13 inch better than the 11? I got an M3 Max 16 inch MacBook Pro so I was thinking the 11 inch ipad is better to carry alongside that. I ordered the 11 but it's out of stock.
The M4 11 and MKB was more of a guilty pleasure than a need. I seem to keep coming back to the iPad for my main device even though I have a MBP. I'm a sales rep and it really works well for my job with a few nagging irritations. So Jimmy, what do you think is going to happen at WWDC? Are they finally going to do the iPad (and its users) right and give us a more robust, feature rich OS or is it just going to be another year of trickle in features like maybe some new emojis that no one cares about?
Think WWDC is going to trickle in a few more features and focus more on AI features. The iPad event seemed like the first time they directly mentioned AI so expecting some stuff on that too. The current Apple is very good at segmenting their product and making sure their product categories don’t cannibalize each other. Even if Apple made iPad OS close to feature rich as Mac OS, developers still need to have an iPad OS version of the apps and tools you want to use, so I think there would still be some time before power users would switch. But that’s just a theory 😅.
@@JimmyTriesWorld I think you're probably right. Love to see the file management improve and silly things like being able to add a file directly to a reminder fixed. Couple things like that and I would consider it a win.
@@jimtipton8888Don't expect too much. You'd be better off buying a Surface Pro with an OLED display and a Snapdragon processor.
@@EibrahamCx Rather get a root canal than a windows based machine.
I traded in both my Macbook Pro M1 and a 2020 iPad Pro for an 11-inch 512GB M4. Two weeks ago I gave it a shot to do everything on my iPad (from video editing on Lumafusion, Logic Pro mixing, photo edits on Photomator and Affinity to everyday mundane tasks like watching content, e-mails, etc.), not really surprisingly but, even with slight performance hiccups, my 2020 iPad Pro did everything. I just love the usage versatility of the device, and the reality is that on this day and age, most tech companies are releasing more compact products like smaller full frame cameras, more content creators are using their phone cameras to make their videos, etc. This doesn’t mean that laptops and computers are getting irrelevant but mobile computing seems now like an alternative option for users.
I’ve gone from a m1 11 inch iPad and a 13 inch MacBook Pro and re[laced them both with the 13 inch m4, with the hope that the end iPad os coming will be significantly better, all the rumours seems to be the case that this will come and the final decision making fact was the upcoming upgrades to Final Cut for iPad. The weight saving from going from 2 devices to this single is great for travel but I will add I have the m1 iMac at home for full computing os. The combo of iMac at home and m4 13 inch looks to be my perfect combo. Great video, let’s all hope the soft wear and os catches up with the iPads potential! Oh and Microsoft sort their shit out and make decent office apps for iPad for those of us who are forced to use word at times 😅.
Rocking IPad 6th gen here. With Paperlike and the first pencil. Still good, still does everything, the battery still holds, if it wouldn’t be EOL this year I wouldn’t have to upgrade. Probably the best value for money device I ever had.
Besides not having a full fledged 3D modelling/animation suite like Maya or Blender, I am curious to what else users want? The files app can pretty much do what the finder does, just in a different way. Affinity photo / Designer are amazing alternatives to photoshop and illustrator, With Luma Fusion, Resolve and Final Cut Pro doing a good job on the video editing front. I am certain if one takes the time to delve into what is on offer, they can use the iPad as a great computer replacement.
I have a speced out 14 inch M1 Max MBP, and honestly don’t use it nearly enough because of the iPad.
The biggest advantage iPads have over any Mac is convenience. It is the ultraportable device that can literally be taken with you everywhere inside the home or outside, something you can’t do with a MacBook easily. I’m tired of hearing the iPad is supposed to be a laptop replacement when it was never intended to be. Macs have exactly the same issues as iPads. An M1 Mac is more than enough for almost everyone. Saying the M4 is overkill is no different than saying the M3 Max is overkill for Macs. 95% of people don’t need anything more than M1, whether it be iPad or Mac. Because the iPad is good enough for almost everyone’s computing needs, there’s no reason for iPads to take over the MacBook’s niche.
Thinner and lighter make a big difference for me, the main reason why I sold my M2 ipad pro 11 inch was because the 11 inch M4 ipad is thinner and lighter and had an OLED screen, the screen is so much better than my M2 ipad, and the M4 is much brighter to.
Yes perform wide ie normal everyday use, then yes they are very similar, but lighter thinner and better screen was enough for me to upgrade.
i dont comment often but I have to say this looks sick AF
with the thinner body, the bezels are more pronounced now, at least imo..yes, there needs to be space for thumb/palm handling, but think they should have shrunk the bezels down a bit. the next iPad should be an iPad Studio that can boot macOS, but not gonna happen :/
I have used the m2 i pad pro as my primary computer. However, because of the new magic keyboard and screen , I feel the urge to upgrade for the 11 inch to the 12 .9 iteration. In addition , want to purchase the M3 Mac book air.
Any ipad is perfect. Just if you have money to burn, then go with the more expansive one.
The so call in display is widely used in the car Industry and folding phones. It is bright but not that special. Just an Oled.
My 3rd gen pro is stil working perfectly and fast - apple products keep their value and quality ( made in 2018! ) I just sold it to get this new m4.
Needing new accessories for it is “convenient” for Apple 😂 Oh look we resigned it so it’s better and the fact you need to reinvest in entirely new accessories…. Well you will thank us for it later… this is such an Apple thing to do always lol.
3:55 Keyboard doesnt seem to sit flat on a table. Very likely to be wobbly and less stable than previous version.